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Author Topic: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?  (Read 9397 times)

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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2012, 02:10:42 pm »

That's a filthy rich fortress, now that you mention it.

Better yet, I could build a castle out of copper.
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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2012, 02:15:42 pm »

That's a filthy rich fortress, now that you mention it.

Better yet, I could build a castle out of copper.

Precisely. Using them for weapons is the obvious choice, so it should be avoided at all costs.

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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2012, 02:22:27 pm »

No, just sell it. Make it all vanish. Poof! Gone!
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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2012, 02:48:58 pm »

Actually you should make a solid 55x55x55 block of copper. No living quarters or anything else inside it: just a solid lump of copper. For the sake of uselessness!
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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2012, 02:51:25 pm »

Actually you should make a solid 55x55x55 block of copper. No living quarters or anything else inside it: just a solid lump of copper. For the sake of uselessness!

The cube would be worthy of its own thread.

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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2012, 02:56:16 pm »

Exactly! Insane logistics, takes an extremely long time, massive, clear waste of precious resources, and UTTERLY FRIGGING USELESS!

The friggin' definition of dwarfyness!

Need I say more?

EDIT: LW, is it just me, or are the two of us here about 12 hours a day, each? You always seem to be capable of answering within minutes.
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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2012, 03:01:38 pm »

Hm, collapse the upper reaches of the map into the first or 2nd cavern layer and rebuild  it out of copper blocks?  (if you run out, just import more from caravans)
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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2012, 03:04:32 pm »

Hm, collapse the upper reaches of the map into the first or 2nd cavern layer and rebuild  it out of copper blocks?  (if you run out, just import more from caravans)

except the map is 8x8 which means a single vertical slice consists of 147,456 squares.  The entire map consists of approximately 13,860,864 units of stone or ore.  Reduce that number for caverns and the gorge.

This map also has 80 levels above the magma sea, so even finding and mining all of the 200,000 tetrahedrite is going to be quite a feat in itself.
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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2012, 03:23:43 pm »

80 levels above the magma sea? You could even afford a 55x55x20 magma reservoir made out of silver above the cube you're planning on building, and not even reach the ground level!
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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2012, 03:29:35 pm »

I might build the cube, but it probably won't be real soon as I'm usually quite busy.
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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2012, 03:34:46 pm »

Actually you should make a solid 55x55x55 block of copper. No living quarters or anything else inside it: just a solid lump of copper. For the sake of uselessness!

The cube would be worthy of its own thread.

Even better if a method was devised to drop the whole thing from the surface, straight into hell.

DODGE THIS YOU DEMONIC B*STARDS!!!
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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2012, 03:36:52 pm »

Actually you should make a solid 55x55x55 block of copper. No living quarters or anything else inside it: just a solid lump of copper. For the sake of uselessness!

The cube would be worthy of its own thread.

Even better if a method was devised to drop the whole thing from the surface, straight into hell.

DODGE THIS YOU DEMONIC B*STARDS!!!

This would be epic.
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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2012, 03:39:36 pm »

Actually you should make a solid 55x55x55 block of copper. No living quarters or anything else inside it: just a solid lump of copper. For the sake of uselessness!

The cube would be worthy of its own thread.

Even better if a method was devised to drop the whole thing from the surface, straight into hell.

DODGE THIS YOU DEMONIC B*STARDS!!!

This would be epic.

Sadly it would deconstruct :(

What would be better, is if the cube itself became an archived save... And hilarity ensues from there. Community forts based in carving homes in the cube, demon drop pods from hell, FB cube...

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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2012, 03:41:07 pm »

Hm, collapse the upper reaches of the map into the first or 2nd cavern layer and rebuild  it out of copper blocks?  (if you run out, just import more from caravans)

except the map is 8x8 which means a single vertical slice consists of 147,456 squares.  The entire map consists of approximately 13,860,864 units of stone or ore.  Reduce that number for caverns and the gorge.

This map also has 80 levels above the magma sea, so even finding and mining all of the 200,000 tetrahedrite is going to be quite a feat in itself.

:P I know, but it would keep you busy at least, and use a lot of copper.
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Re: My map has 200,000 tetrahedrite and nothing else. What should I do?
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2012, 08:32:31 pm »

If you have a waterfall, the fortress is not exactly screwed, just challenging.

You need to mine out then muddy some rocky subterene tiles. It doesn't take a very bit spot to subsist on nasty plump helmets, unless you have a migrant rush.

Wood is more challenging, but you should be able to trade for it with all the silver and copper you will be cranking out.  You can store food in copper barrels.  Most your traded-for wood is going to go for beds, which can't be made out of any othher material.

After that, make a deep descending series of up/down stairways until you hit an underground cave. Even if you break in on top of a big chasm, this will turn on spores for shroom trees. After that, your muddied tiles can host herbivorous animals, and will produce shroom trees.

The cold issue is harder to deal with. You need to keep underground, and exploit homeothermy of your dwarves and animals.  Carnivores like dogs don't need to eat, and produce homeothermy. "Pen" them in a grid pattern to exploit the homeothermy, and to keep them from killing each other when they overcrowd the community hall. They also reproduce prodigiously, which is good. They multiply faster than dwarves, and as long as you keep from making cavernous rooms that need ridiculous amounts of 4 legged bioheating units to keep livable, and keep doors shut to control heat loss, you should be able to pull it off. (Bonus. Dogs are edible and make leather for clothes.)

If you play it right, this fortress can stand.  Just use the silver to make smashing weapons, instead of cutting ones. Makes good shields and maces/hammers.

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