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Re: ___/The Writer's Apprenticeship\___
« Reply #1785 on: June 01, 2017, 03:43:24 pm »

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Keeping the oral tradition alive by telling stories over Discord, apparently. This is a traditional folk tale, but I've forgotten which African culture it's from. ;_;

Apologies for the weird formatting. Like I said, story told over Discord. :p
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Re: ___/The Writer's Apprenticeship\___
« Reply #1786 on: June 07, 2017, 06:29:13 pm »

Nice story!

I came here for some advice on story structure. How should a scene/chapter be laid out? I've never had any instruction in story lore, so suspect my efforts are similar to those of a child gambolling through a field of wheat.

A la May, I suppose.
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« Reply #1787 on: June 08, 2017, 08:37:00 am »

The most important thing to remember is that everything ought to move the story forward in some way. It could be as little as a scene providing insight into a character's personality, or as big as a chapter bringing the world to the edge of destruction, but the key to writing a readable story is pacing, and the key to pacing is not wasting the reader's time.

As for me, I tend not to write in explicit chapters when I go through a story for the first time. If it's long enough to warrant them, I'll go back and add the breaks during the first edit. There are usually obvious places to put them, and in my experience, it's very hard to read a story for pacing and chapter splits as you're writing it.

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« Reply #1788 on: June 08, 2017, 10:08:53 am »

So the microstucture, as it were, isn't something like the macrostructure of the book? Always have conflict leading to resolution type thing?
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« Reply #1789 on: June 08, 2017, 10:15:10 am »

Not necessarily. I'd say the classic SF&F novel works on a model of rising tension on the micro scale, until the end. That said, one problem whose resolution leads to a bigger problem whose resolution leads to a bigger problem is a classic story structure, and that has the fractal aspect you were talking about.

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« Reply #1790 on: June 08, 2017, 10:21:45 am »

Nice story!

I came here for some advice on story structure. How should a scene/chapter be laid out? I've never had any instruction in story lore, so suspect my efforts are similar to those of a child gambolling through a field of wheat.

A la May, I suppose.

Any sub-unit of storytelling, I.E. a scene, sequence, chapter, et al. is usually defined in the same way its parent story is. Assuming you're writing off the more practically-oriented 3-act structure, a scene is laid out roughly the same way.

basically:

Character wants something -> obstacle -> apparent success or failure -> complication of problem -> pivotal moment (the character may or may not get what they want--that's up for you to decide.)

To speak to pacing, it's ultra important. A good metric is to follow is that depending on how large your story is (A novel can meander much more than a short story or screenplay can) every chapter/sequence/scene should reveal:

1.) The character's personality/their "character" for a lack for a better word.

2.) The world. World-Building is incredibly important, the environment should reflect the characters' emotions, the obstacles, the mood, etc. You can really do anything and everything when you properly reveal the world to the reader.

3.) Advance the plot or otherwise pile on the obstacles, problems, and misery for your characters. Forcing your characters into action in the short term to keep us reading, and increasing the tension in the long run--the combination of wanting to find out how a scene ends, and whether or not it will all work out for our protagonist at the end of the story is a winning combination.
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Re: ___/The Writer's Apprenticeship\___
« Reply #1791 on: June 23, 2017, 04:17:09 pm »

Hello everyone, I actually wrote something I'm happy enough to publish (on reddit, but that's kinda-sorta publishing)!

https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/6j40ok/oc_rescue_of_sargon_1/

It's about 1700 words, pack of mercenaries planning a rescue mission in a sci-fi setting.

Anyone wants to comment or critique it at all, I'd definitely appreciate it.
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« Reply #1792 on: October 12, 2017, 05:21:36 pm »

Doing a creative writing course once a week for a month and a half just for the fun of it.

First homework (A place familiar to you):

The grass is green along the verge, while above the heavens are scattered with orange, red and gold. The colours of autumn are played against the sky’s vast screen, and apples, sweet and hard and small, litter the ground. It is an orchard. Here, I have often gone, for there is a silence present amongst the branches and boles which is lacking elsewhere; a sense of Eden, from which the first fruit tree sprang.

A path winds, weary with wear from many feet, overgrown now with weeds and wilderness, between the brownness of those boles. It bears the promise of adventure in its deep groove, a knowledge that here could become there. Such possibility is a spice added to the dim rustle of leaves, the scratchings of animals. Close your eyes, and you will see – the orchard bears more fruit than apples.

But it is also alive at night. Above, the moon keeps the stars company, and the light of the house seems by far more distant. A quiet breath, a deep inward breath, blows over all, and the trees speak to one another in soft, cellulose voices. Leaves trail the ground in deep drifts, for winter comes, and they must shed their clothes. There, in the darkness of that night, a wooden pallet structure hides, covered in briar and bramble; a childhood haunt, with trapdoor in the back, fashioned from my own young hands for some never-needed escape.

In a way, the orchard itself has become that escape. Never truly needed, but still there; safe, present, and waiting.
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« Reply #1793 on: October 16, 2017, 11:09:34 pm »

While not a new piece of work, I thought that I'd mention that all of my (self) published works are available for free - and will be until Friday the 20th.

Take this opportunity to read my finest (or at least most edited and polished) works!

Amazon Reviews/Ratings (especially good ones - although I'd honestly rather get honest feedback than pats on the back) appreciated!

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Note to self: Get back to writing! It's been nearly a year since you last really put some time into writing new stuff!

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« Reply #1794 on: October 19, 2017, 04:33:27 pm »

Second Homework (A description of a stranger seen in a public place):

She sits with a friend, talking. Food makes the long travel from plate to mouth, and hangs, suspended on air, while the mouth moves. Almost as if she were chewing despite the absence of food, her teeth mashing words and spitting vowels into the emptiness. Her friend seems to understand, and nods at the right moments, false blond head lowering and raising in rhythm with her colleague’s tune.

She laughs, teeth revealed and then hidden in response to some joke. But then she slumps forwards, perhaps wearied by the circuit from and to bed, a circuit which we all mirror. She could be someone’s grandmother, her curls gleaming grey in the harshness of the white, revealing lights. Grey coat, grey chair, grey hair.

But it is not a feeling of dullness which she imparts. Her head may be bowed in speech, and fork seems never to reach mouth, but behind the piercing gleam of glasses are eyes no less perceiving. They dart about the room, free and impartial, touching all with equal weight.

There is no simplicity there.

An enigma, then. Behind the eyes, a universe untapped, while all about her is bustle and noise. Outside, a calm figure, aging, perhaps retired. Eating-and-not-eating as she has perhaps done so often before, caught in the grips of communication. If we listen carefully, perhaps we will hear the words of a prophet from this most unassuming person.
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« Reply #1795 on: October 25, 2017, 09:31:38 am »

Hello everyone, I actually wrote something I'm happy enough to publish (on reddit, but that's kinda-sorta publishing)!

https://www.reddit.com/r/HFY/comments/6j40ok/oc_rescue_of_sargon_1/

It's about 1700 words, pack of mercenaries planning a rescue mission in a sci-fi setting.

Anyone wants to comment or critique it at all, I'd definitely appreciate it.

Whoa. Never thought I'd see a HFY-er out in the wild.

Reading through this thread. Some interesting things around here. :)

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« Reply #1796 on: October 25, 2017, 04:01:38 pm »

Whoa. Never thought I'd see a HFY-er out in the wild.

I tried my hand at this subreddit as well.

It wasn't particularly good, and I dropped the story right in the middle, so I'd suggest not to bother. I mentioning this more for statistics' sake.
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« Reply #1797 on: October 26, 2017, 05:10:47 am »

Hey, I actually remember that. Read for abit, then lost track of the plot. Sorry, it was plot point overload.

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« Reply #1798 on: October 26, 2017, 07:40:14 am »

Hey, I actually remember that. Read for abit, then lost track of the plot. Sorry, it was plot point overload.

Eh, fair enough.
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« Reply #1799 on: November 03, 2017, 05:37:29 am »

Trying out a few new styles of writing. Does this flow well, or is it too contrived? Possibly shouldn't have read Lovecraft's "The Statement of Randolf Carter" an hour before starting this. Definitely borrowed a line from there.

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