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Title: Games with Factions
Post by: megaloptus on September 20, 2011, 08:30:28 pm
I'm looking for a game with joinable factions where you can play a part as the member and combat other factions. Please exclude S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Bethesda Games.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Ozyton on September 20, 2011, 08:51:04 pm
Mount and Blade
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Capntastic on September 20, 2011, 08:52:27 pm
IIRC Number Munchers had fractions
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 20, 2011, 08:58:01 pm
welcome2forum

M&B seems a likely candidate within the very vague parameters you've set forth.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Jacob/Lee on September 20, 2011, 09:03:12 pm
Mount and Blade
Got some cash itching to be burned, how good is the game? Any reviews?
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Ozyton on September 20, 2011, 09:06:45 pm
You should have gotten it during the steam sale, silly.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 20, 2011, 09:15:18 pm
You should have gotten it during the steam sale, silly.

This, if you were gonna get it.

M&B gets all its longevity from mods, by the way. So do be prepared for that if you play it.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Jacob/Lee on September 20, 2011, 09:50:52 pm
You should have gotten it during the steam sale, silly.
There was a sale?

FFFFFFFFFFFFF-

I need to look at Steam more often ::)
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Rex_Nex on September 20, 2011, 10:36:41 pm
World of Tanks (You dont really fight a specific faction, but it has American, Russian, and German tanks. Kill em all!) - worldoftanks.com

Dota/LoL/HoN (MOBA games; pick a side (sentinel/scourge) and a hero {between 50-103ish heroes depending on what game} and duke it out in an arena) - playdota.com / leagueoflegends.com / heroesofnewerth.com

Europa Universalis (Sort of, its a grand strategy game, so everything is a faction) - europauniversalis3.com

Subvein (Rebels vs Scientists vs Mercenaries. Multiplayer Grand Theft Auto, if I had to use a few words to describe it) - subvein.com

All nicely named websites, amiright?
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: umiman on September 20, 2011, 10:41:04 pm
Mount & Blade totally.

Look into the Floris mod for it too though you might want to experience vanilla first.

there's also EU3 and the entire Total War series.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Cthulhu on September 20, 2011, 10:43:32 pm
Far Cry 2 has you working for two different factions, but you don't swear loyalty to either of them and you're used as a deniable asset, so no one actually helps you.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: SeaBee on September 20, 2011, 11:32:42 pm
I don't think these have been mentioned yet:
I can think of many more, just not sure what genre or style you're looking for. Oh, and welcome to Bay12.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Flying Dice on September 21, 2011, 12:39:59 am
Certainly M&B, although I would probably recommend buying Warband, as it made several improvements.


Also, welcome to Bay12.  :)
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Croquantes on September 21, 2011, 01:18:35 am
Europa Univeralis 3: Only play if you're going to download and play the Magna Mundi mod (google it!). If you're looking for factions, well, there's a metric poopload of factions.

It's hard to summarise what's great about the mod, but since you want factions... The three strongest factions are always represented in your country, and will make various demands and/or they will voice their displeasure if you fail to please them. If you make all the factions unhappy, there'll probably be civil war. Cool thing though, if you lose the civil war, the rebels will install a new government! You then have to fight off the remainders of the old guard as the new government.

There are also factions that arise when you begin settling/subjugating other continents. The Holy Roman Empire is also represented, so beware if you declare war on any states that belong to it. They'll curb stomp you... :D

Truly, EU3 is only good for playing Magna Mundi. I guess you could wait until the stand-alone game is released next year, but... it's coming out next year. :( 
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Shadowgandor on September 21, 2011, 01:20:12 am
Mercenaries was a great game with 3 factions :)
GTA2 had multiple factions
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: klingon13524 on September 21, 2011, 02:14:10 am
Mercenaries was a great game with 3 factions :)
GTA2 had multiple factions
He has a pretty broad description of what he wants, but GTA 2 isn't what he's looking for I think. Try to keep games to the last 3-5 years.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Pakhawaj on September 21, 2011, 05:45:12 am
It depends on what you want really.
The Witcher has factions (two, possibly three?), it's an action-RPG
Fallout 2 has many factions, it's an RPG
Arcademagia has factions, it's like a huge CYOA book.
Thief has factions, it's a sneaking game.
Mount & Blade has factions, it's like a mediaeval FPS.

Out of these, Fallout 2 probably has the best factions, though it's likely you've played it. I'd either place The Witcher or Arcademagia in terms of factions next, both have well thought out and interesting factions. :)
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: kerlc on September 21, 2011, 07:16:47 am
i do not get why exactly not S.T.A.L.K.E.R., but okay:

GOTHIC 1

GOTHIC 2

GET THEM.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: nenjin on September 21, 2011, 07:18:24 am
Mercenaries: World in Flames immediately came to mind when I read this. Mount & Blade offers deeper levels of faction interaction though.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Nilocy on September 21, 2011, 07:34:12 am
I guess if you want to go down the MMO route, theres always Eve-Online, and for the Free to play people, Global Agenda
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: lordcooper on September 21, 2011, 09:40:35 am
Would nearly all games fit that criteria these days?
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Rakuhn on September 21, 2011, 01:25:02 pm
The Gothic series is currently on sale at Gamersgate.

On a different note, I think you might be interested in the Geneforge series by Spiderwebsoftware.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Itnetlolor on September 21, 2011, 03:35:28 pm
Proof that not all Escaped Lunatics are Adbots. Welcome to the forums. That aside, I'll need a moment to see what good games there are like what you ask.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: EuchreJack on September 22, 2011, 01:56:26 pm
Yeah, but I'm afraid we might have scared this new poster off.   :'(

Please come back, we want to help.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Leatra on September 22, 2011, 04:12:38 pm
Yeah, but I'm afraid we might have scared this new poster off.   :'(

Please come back, we want to help.
The newcomer is probably overwhelmed by how helpful this community is.

Oh, and try "Sid Meier's Pirates!" too!
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Pandarsenic on September 22, 2011, 04:58:04 pm
Yeah, but I'm afraid we might have scared this new poster off.   :'(

Please come back, we want to help.
The newcomer is probably overwhelmed by how helpful this community is.
Obviously.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Stargrasper on September 22, 2011, 06:34:56 pm
Apparently released less than a week and a half ago, Sengoku.  A lot like Europa Universalis III.  But significantly simplified and thus more manageable.  Also, restricted to feudal Japan.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: megaloptus on September 22, 2011, 06:56:08 pm
Wow! Thanks, I just made an account on short notice, this forum is so friendly and to the point! Btw, I ment RPG's. I excluded STALKER and bethesda games because I already have those.  :) I definitely WAS overwhelmed when I saw 2 pages as opposed to no replies or one if I'm lucky!
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Stargrasper on September 22, 2011, 10:35:46 pm
We're glad to have you here and hope you stick around.  This community is actually one of the more friendly communities I've encountered on the internet.  And yeah...it likes to go all out with things.  The DF players have the megaproject mentality...the rest of us...I'm not so sure.

And don't be afraid to stick around the community even if you aren't playing DF.  We have a bunch of non-DF boards for a reason.  I've been hanging around the lower forums (especially Curses & Life Advice) lately.

And for RPGs with factions you can mess with...I'm not sure.  RPGs usually aren't that freeform.  Oh, they exist.  I'm just not sure what they are off the top of my head.  I'm sure the others know of about a thousand games that meet your criterion though.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Leatra on September 23, 2011, 10:21:14 am
Wow! Thanks, I just made an account on short notice, this forum is so friendly and to the point! Btw, I ment RPG's. I excluded STALKER and bethesda games because I already have those.  :) I definitely WAS overwhelmed when I saw 2 pages as opposed to no replies or one if I'm lucky!
Yay! New guy likes us! Stick around here and you won't regret it :)

I'd recommend Gothic 4 but it isn't really a great game. Speaking of Gothic, I think Gothic 3 is the worst of the series. I could kill a dragon easily but hey, if there is a wild boar coming... RUN LIKE HELL!

You should definitely try Risen. There are only 2 factions in the game. Bandits and The Inquisition. It isn't about Good vs Evil though. Inquisition isn't Good and bandits aren't Evil. You have to join one of them to do the main quests. You can let the Inquisition brainwash you with their self-righteous ways or you can work for a crime lord. In time you will be promoted and be more respected.

It's a cool game. Also 2 different factions means 2 different playthroughs. There are a total of 260 quests in this game and you can't do them all in one run.

By the way, I hope I didn't confuse you about those 2 factions. Game doesen't tell you which faction is Good and which faction is Evil. First guy in the game you encounter tells you how the Order (that's the Inquisition) sucks and after that you meet a decent Order fellow who tells you how Order is great. Order will attack you on sight and bandits will leave you alone unless you attack them first. The crime lord dude also cares about his people. You will meet bad guys and good guys on both sides. There isn't anything that is "completely good" or "completely evil" It's just like real life.

Not convincing? What about this?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: GreatJustice on September 24, 2011, 09:44:25 am
Any free games with factions to join?
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Android on September 24, 2011, 02:48:29 pm
Face of Mankind
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: EuchreJack on September 24, 2011, 07:16:01 pm
Gearhead 1 & 2 has joinable factions, and is free.

Link: http://www.gearheadrpg.com/ (http://www.gearheadrpg.com/)

The story of Gearhead 2 tends to be influenced by which faction you join.  The story is heavily influenced by which faction the game randomly generates as the Enemy faction (which can be most of the factions).

Warning: It won't play on Windows 7 computers, as far as I can tell.  It's one of the few things I miss about my old computer.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Stworca on September 24, 2011, 07:20:03 pm
Gothic series have factions. In the third one you fight the other factions.

If you ever pack Gothic 3, get ALL the unofficial patches, or you'll be facing a world of bugs.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Dakk on September 24, 2011, 07:29:47 pm
Any fallout game, any elder scrolls game. Crusader Kings and Dominion could probably fit on "games with factions" altough you don't work for the factions, you ARE a faction. Also, most RTSs.

Vampire: The masquerade bloodlines is an excellent pick too, if you get all unofficial patches. The previous game, Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption is a pretty decent, if drastically different, game, as well. Altough I'm not really sure if there are joinable factions in it.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: GreatJustice on September 24, 2011, 09:54:05 pm
Oh, the Escape Velocity games have factions to join.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Leatra on September 25, 2011, 07:01:48 am
Vampire: The masquerade bloodlines is an excellent pick too, if you get all unofficial patches. The previous game, Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption is a pretty decent, if drastically different, game, as well. Altough I'm not really sure if there are joinable factions in it.
Bloodlines doesn't have any joinable factions. You just choose a clan at start (Malkavian is my favorite) and roll with it. It doesn't have any major impact on the story of the game. Insanity caused by being a Malkavian will result in funny dialogs though. I still rembember when my character started talking to a TV. Hilarious :D

Also at the end you can decide which faction you want to help. But until the end of the game you pretty much a freelancer. Also you can go neutral and try to destroy 'em all and give the finger to the Anarchs.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Dakk on September 25, 2011, 10:53:24 am
Wha? It changes the missions you can take and the ending, so I'm pretty sure its a decent example, especialy with the unoficial patch fixing up broken questlines.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: FlamePrince on September 25, 2011, 11:00:36 am
Yeah, but I'm afraid we might have scared this new poster off.   :'(

Please come back, we want to help.
The newcomer is probably overwhelmed by how helpful this community is.

Oh, and try "Sid Meier's Pirates!" too!
This. This. This. This and uh... This.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Leatra on September 25, 2011, 04:17:37 pm
Wha? It changes the missions you can take and the ending, so I'm pretty sure its a decent example, especialy with the unoficial patch fixing up broken questlines.
Yes but it only changed the ending. You can pretty much experience every faction by replaying the game from one or two missions earlier.

It's one hell of a game though. One of the best games I have ever played and I played a LOT of games. I was around 12 years old when I played it for the first time (+18? my ass) and I still rembember the scariest mission in that game. The mission where you break into an abandoned hotel to find a necklace (name of the mission:The Ghost Haunts at Midnight)

The ghost of that axe-wielding murderer scared the hell outta me... I should totally play it sometime
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: megaloptus on September 25, 2011, 04:31:43 pm
Who can suggest any games or mods where you can pick which faction to join and you actually become a part of them, for example you are supplied with equipment and you look just like their grunts etc. etc.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Leatra on September 25, 2011, 04:58:25 pm
Who can suggest any games or mods where you can pick which faction to join and you actually become a part of them, for example you are supplied with equipment and you look just like their grunts etc. etc.
Well, don't play "Sid Meier's Pirates!" then :D

Let's see. In Gothic 3 after you join a faction they gave you some help. You helped them to raid enemy faction's bases and other stuff like that. But I'll say it again, it is a bad game.

In Risen, like I mentioned, when you join a faction you are the lowest member of them. People won't show much respect for you. You follow the way which every new member follows. Nobody will just say "Hey, you are highly gifted. Let's make you the highest member of our guild!". You first do unimportant quests but as you get promoted you will be given more important tasks. They give you armor and weapons and getting better armor is usually tough. If you are a novice you pretty much wear what a novice wears until you become a high-ranked member. There are only two factions in this game but they are VERY different. Play the game twice and try both of them and you'll understand. For example, if you become a greedy bandit you live in a shithole. If you join the self-rightous Order you live in a fortress. Quests are very much different too.

So, I highly recommend Risen.

I don't rembember much games where the factions were highly important. I mean in games like Oblivion, Fallout you just join a faction, do every quest that game has for them and be done with that faction
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Stargrasper on September 25, 2011, 07:36:58 pm
Gearhead 1 & 2 has joinable factions, and is free.

Link: http://www.gearheadrpg.com/ (http://www.gearheadrpg.com/)

The story of Gearhead 2 tends to be influenced by which faction you join.  The story is heavily influenced by which faction the game randomly generates as the Enemy faction (which can be most of the factions).

Warning: It won't play on Windows 7 computers, as far as I can tell.  It's one of the few things I miss about my old computer.

I don't believe you.  Mostly because it runs fine on my Win7 box.  And my Linux box.  Most trouble I ever had with the thing was it occasionally segfaulting during character creation.  I forget which (or both) OS it did that on, though.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: SomethingCreative on September 25, 2011, 08:43:31 pm
It doesn't fit the criteria entirely, but "Depths of Peril" might interest you.

 It's a hack and slash diablo clone, with it's greatest feature being covenants. You create a covenant, and you compete against the other covenants for control of Jorvik, a village.

 There's a lot of interaction between the covenants and the player, as the covenants are run by NPCs who do all of the same things the player does (fight monsters, complete quests). You can adventure with the other convenants, form alliances and trade with them, or declare war and raid their bases.

 It's an okay game on the whole. The graphics are ass, and the soundtrack is limited (I think there might only be one song in the entire game, I wasn't paying attention). Additionally, there are only four character classes. One of which, the mage (wizard?), is a tad gimped.

 I personally love it, and play it almost entirely for the covenants.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: bQt31 on September 25, 2011, 10:32:51 pm
M&B has already been proposed but I think one particular mod (for M&B Warband, not the first one) could interest you. It's called Freelancer : http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,232.0.html
Not the most popular of all, but you basically play a soldier for a king or vassal of the game, and just fight for him and get promoted and all..
I haven't tried it yet tho, so I can't promise you it's bug free or anything!
Cya
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Leatra on September 26, 2011, 06:26:47 am
Gearhead 1 & 2 has joinable factions, and is free.

Link: http://www.gearheadrpg.com/ (http://www.gearheadrpg.com/)

The story of Gearhead 2 tends to be influenced by which faction you join.  The story is heavily influenced by which faction the game randomly generates as the Enemy faction (which can be most of the factions).

Warning: It won't play on Windows 7 computers, as far as I can tell.  It's one of the few things I miss about my old computer.

I don't believe you.  Mostly because it runs fine on my Win7 box.  And my Linux box.  Most trouble I ever had with the thing was it occasionally segfaulting during character creation.  I forget which (or both) OS it did that on, though.

Gearhead 1 didn't run on my windows XP
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on October 15, 2011, 07:18:53 pm
Gearhead 1 & 2 has joinable factions, and is free.

Link: http://www.gearheadrpg.com/ (http://www.gearheadrpg.com/)

The story of Gearhead 2 tends to be influenced by which faction you join.  The story is heavily influenced by which faction the game randomly generates as the Enemy faction (which can be most of the factions).

Warning: It won't play on Windows 7 computers, as far as I can tell.  It's one of the few things I miss about my old computer.

I don't believe you.  Mostly because it runs fine on my Win7 box.  And my Linux box.  Most trouble I ever had with the thing was it occasionally segfaulting during character creation.  I forget which (or both) OS it did that on, though.

Gearhead 1 didn't run on my windows XP

Hello. Stumbled into this thread, and noticed that you might have been having the same problem that I was. If you go the the main website for Gearhead you will find a download link that leads to sourceforge. The problem, is that the something "image" file is missing from that package, for whatever reason. If you click the title of the download "Gearhead Arena" at the top of the page, you will be taken to an overview. There, to the right, you can select "Browse all files." Do so, and then go to gearhead > 1.100 > gh-1100-sdlimage.zip.

From there, you just need to stick that folder in your GH directory, and you should be good as gold. Hope it helps. :)
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Leatra on October 15, 2011, 07:32:47 pm
Hey it worked! Thanks a lot :)
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: megaloptus on October 16, 2011, 12:38:11 am
I tried Gearhead 2, loved the character creation process.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on October 16, 2011, 01:12:59 pm
I tried Gearhead 2, loved the character creation process.

In case you haven't played it yet, GH1's almost identical, though with fewer portrait options and a more defining background story. That said, form what I've seen thus far, GH2's characters have a lot more personality. The all that zen chat is starting to get on my nerves...  >:(
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Servant Corps on October 16, 2011, 07:32:44 pm
It doesn't fit the criteria entirely, but "Depths of Peril" might interest you.

 It's a hack and slash diablo clone, with it's greatest feature being covenants. You create a covenant, and you compete against the other covenants for control of Jorvik, a village.

 There's a lot of interaction between the covenants and the player, as the covenants are run by NPCs who do all of the same things the player does (fight monsters, complete quests). You can adventure with the other convenants, form alliances and trade with them, or declare war and raid their bases.

 It's an okay game on the whole. The graphics are ass, and the soundtrack is limited (I think there might only be one song in the entire game, I wasn't paying attention). Additionally, there are only four character classes. One of which, the mage (wizard?), is a tad gimped.

 I personally love it, and play it almost entirely for the covenants.

Thanks for recommending this game to me, I thoroughly enjoy the demo.
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Robsoie on October 16, 2011, 08:24:18 pm
As i played recently with the excellent 2027 mod (http://project2027.com/) for it, you have Deus Ex too (and probably its sequels but never played them) that had you working (willingfully or without knowing it or having a choice) for some factions against the other(s).

Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: EuchreJack on October 17, 2011, 01:42:11 am
Hey it worked! Thanks a lot :)

Yeah, it worked for me too!  Thanks!

EDIT: To clarify, GH1 works.  GH 2's creator says that GH 2 graphics mode won't work on Windows 7 64-bit, unless I can unlock some 32-bit compatibility mode (http://www.gearheadrpg.com/forum/index.php/topic,1545.0.html) (I can't).

EDIT2: However, "2d" mode works, and seems almost as good.  Yay!
Title: Re: Games with Factions
Post by: Ibid Straydrink on October 17, 2011, 02:29:01 am
Hey it worked! Thanks a lot :)

Yeah, it worked for me too!  Thanks!

EDIT: To clarify, GH1 works.  GH 2's creator says that GH 2 graphics mode won't work on Windows 7 64-bit, unless I can unlock some 32-bit compatibility mode (http://www.gearheadrpg.com/forum/index.php/topic,1545.0.html) (I can't).

EDIT2: However, "2d" mode works, and seems almost as good.  Yay!

For reasons unknown, the "regular" graphics mode of GH2 doesn't work on my Pro copy of Windows XP either., or at least isn't fully functional. Any time I get to a polygonal-rendered point in the game, I get an error list and crash.

Judging by the screenshots I've seen, however, 2d is the way to go anyway. I can understand using polygons to render mech battles, since that is something you want to be intense and distinct from regular combat and mundane tasks, but I much prefer some well-done SNES-style sprites to blocky people.


ALSO: I learned this today from the folks on the GH2 thread we have here- open the gearhead.cfg file with notepad, and look for the entry #NAMESON. If you delete the "#", names will be displayed over characters and locations, making those vague quests a little more bearable.