+1 to Adrian.+10, this looks AWSOME
Ask the tribes people whic way the water is, and whether they see water over there too. I fthey see water over there too, go in the direction of the water you saw.
But what if we are all hallucinating together?!?!Ask the tribes people whic way the water is, and whether they see water over there too. I fthey see water over there too, go in the direction of the water you saw.
Yus. I agree with this.
In that case it woulds probably be considered a god animal of combat. . . . . . . . Mortal Combat!Also alert the other members of your tribe so they can help! +1
Toss rocks as it comes close and dodge its first attack. Spin and marry your spear with its spine.
+1In that case it woulds probably be considered a god animal of combat. . . . . . . . Mortal Combat!Also alert the other members of your tribe so they can help! +1
Toss rocks as it comes close and dodge its first attack. Spin and marry your spear with its spine.
Butcher the Badger+1, wrap yourself in the hide of the badger to protect against further attacks and show off your kill. By wrap I mean cover the most of your body that you can with the hide of a badger.
*Karate chops your logic*What?
Your logic is now....
*Puts on glasses*
Unsound.
*Logic falls apart behind me*
YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
I've been writing too many scripts.
It looks much more like a badger though, and looks pretty mean now that I see the wikipedia picture.[allknowingdouche]actually, honey badgers are related closer to weasels than badgers, so you should have said weasel skin[/allknowingdouche]Butcher the Badger+1, wrap yourself in the hide of the badger to protect against further attacks and show off your kill. By wrap I mean cover the most of your body that you can with the hide of a badger.
Cut up some nearby pants with your sharp rock and weave, or tie if we don't know how to weave, them together to make yourself a proper sash 8)!Plused
Cut up some nearby pants with your sharp rock and weave, or tie if we don't know how to weave, them together to make yourself a proper sash 8)!
If it's long enough to make a sash, lets do that, but try plants first if they know how to, which is likely since it is simple, if not make sash out of dead snake skin.Cut up some nearby pants with your sharp rock and weave, or tie if we don't know how to weave, them together to make yourself a proper sash 8)!
Do we know how to yet? Hm. What would be the simplest method of gaining clothing?... Wait a minute. They were eating a snake in the cave right? What did they do with the snake skin?
Let's store our tool and spear across our backs. Do you guys want to head back and maybe try and make some footwraps out of the snake skin? I think that way we will be able to go longer distances. Or maybe we should look for a gourd, to hold water. Right after that we need to find a flint or obsidian. Knapping a simple tool is really easy (just a single edge blade the size of a razor) and if we find one stone about, there is bound to be others, so multiple tries until we get something useful. From there making a knife, then a lancehead, eventually should only be a leap.Well if there isn't a sharp flint rock attached to our spear we should fix that.
+1Let's store our tool and spear across our backs. Do you guys want to head back and maybe try and make some footwraps out of the snake skin? I think that way we will be able to go longer distances. Or maybe we should look for a gourd, to hold water. Right after that we need to find a flint or obsidian. Knapping a simple tool is really easy (just a single edge blade the size of a razor) and if we find one stone about, there is bound to be others, so multiple tries until we get something useful. From there making a knife, then a lancehead, eventually should only be a leap.Well if there isn't a sharp flint rock attached to our spear we should fix that.
And I think to make a proper knife we would need some sort of metal, which is beyond our ability to shape. I don't know how footwraps would enable us to go longer distances, amybe just increase our endurance a little bit since our feet won't hurt.
But lets find a flint or whatever is the sharpest rock avalible and attach it to our spear, and then go kill some animals so we can make waterskins out of their skin. That'll improve our butchering skill, which we are sure to need in the future.
Let's store our tool and spear across our backs. Do you guys want to head back and maybe try and make some footwraps out of the snake skin? I think that way we will be able to go longer distances. Or maybe we should look for a gourd, to hold water. Right after that we need to find a flint or obsidian. Knapping a simple tool is really easy (just a single edge blade the size of a razor) and if we find one stone about, there is bound to be others, so multiple tries until we get something useful. From there making a knife, then a lancehead, eventually should only be a leap.Well if there isn't a sharp flint rock attached to our spear we should fix that.
And I think to make a proper knife we would need some sort of metal, which is beyond our ability to shape. I don't know how footwraps would enable us to go longer distances, amybe just increase our endurance a little bit since our feet won't hurt.
But lets find a flint or whatever is the sharpest rock avalible and attach it to our spear, and then go kill some animals so we can make waterskins out of their skin. That'll improve our butchering skill, which we are sure to need in the future.
They all managed to get shot in the heart by the two crossbow Dwarves that made it to the bottom. I decided to extend the pit and turn it into the blood arena.Well, with that said, I want to ask you guys something. I am DFing it out and I dumped 5 goblins in a pit. They all survived. What should I do next? Repit them, let them bleed to death slowly, or kill them outright?wooden training weapons, and use them as living dummies for your military to train upon.
Ya know whats weird, I played a forum game here about rebuilding civilization after a nuclear apocolypse, and now I am playing one about building it in the first place. Kinda feels like it went full circle, like when you are child and build a towwer out of legos, have it fall down, and think "Aw hell, now I gotta start again". Of course without hell cus small children don't curse.you think
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Let's take a nap (knap LOL).Wow, lol. :D
I would say it is about time to start rapping up day one.:D, intentional?
yeah, I kinda got sucked into minecraft and the day just... went.Don't worry I can empahize.
I'll *try* to do an update tomorrow. depends on whether or not my life gets sucked up again >.>
But also, try to make out of the guts of the gazelles containers! Pretty much waterskin out of their stomach and this shit. Also, eat the organs too. We cannot waste any food. Food is imporant, food keeps us alive.OP addresed the other stuff, so I'm just gunna say the idea of making their stomachs and intestines into waterskins and other waterproof containers is a good idea. Also for the organs have the tribe cook them along with the rest of the meat, Dragor is right food is important and some of those organs are ery noutrisious. Make sure to to clean them out before eating though.
I found an image for our spears.That looks pretty coolSpoiler (click to show/hide)
Okay, we have two days of food. I hope it's not gonna rot away.Ok so if we can assign people in the tribe to do things (GM said we could do this last page I believe), have 9 people gather the plants. We should then pcik the smartest person in the tribe and teach him/her to make knives (all of the tribe already has spears, they made their own), with one other person to make knives we can have him make knives for the entire tribe, and we will be able to do other things. When the tribe has knives they can help us butcher things, which will enable us to hunt faster.
But we know plants, that are edible!
We should gather as most as we can and try to hunt more.
Our goal should be a week of food.
Hmm so we should do some amazing things in order to earn respect... brainstorm people, BRAINSTORM!Okay, we have two days of food. I hope it's not gonna rot away.Ok so if we can assign people in the tribe to do things (GM said we could do this last page I believe)
But we know plants, that are edible!
We should gather as most as we can and try to hunt more.
Our goal should be a week of food.
I said some things, you'll need more respect before pretty much acting as the tribe's ruler.
We should make some axes and shields to increase the amount of wood we can get and to keep ourselves alive.I don't think shields are necessecry against animals, and that is all we are fighting for now, but axes would come in handy.
I think they already got the idea how you make knifes.Well I was thinking of the knives as more of a gift to the entire tribe then instruction. Yeah making drawings of tribes achievments would earn us some respect. Lets catalogue our acheivements in chronological order in the cave, left to right of course.
They got stone tiped spears.
Make random drawings in the cave! :P
Or maybe do something awsome and then a drawing about it!
Oh yeah +1 to asking tribe what their worst fear is. Worst fear we can kill that is. I presume you wanted us to kill what they fear the most.Or maybe do something awsome and then a drawing about it!
Lets see if there is anything that the tribe really fears.
No No No. I want to see what its innereds look like while it lives.Oh yeah +1 to asking tribe what their worst fear is. Worst fear we can kill that is. I presume you wanted us to kill what they fear the most.Or maybe do something awsome and then a drawing about it!
Lets see if there is anything that the tribe really fears.
Idea. how 'bout throwing sharp rocks on the ground, in a narrow point where it will have to go through. Or baiting it into a deep pit?Yeah lets just kill something easier, then dig a hole deep enough the lion can't come out near a tree, cover aforementioned hole with leaves and sticks, put corpse above hole, use pant fibers to hold it up, and wait.
May I point out that this is a large pride of lions, not just a single lion. we'll need a lot more throwing spears. can we get the rest of the tribe making them?Yeah they are affraid of a pride of lions, but we can wait and single out a single lion, kill it and bring it back as a trophy to the tribe. If they are affraid of the pride than that will be impressive enough, it will show lions can be killed. I don't think that until we come back with a lion we should ge the tribe involved and that will make it a tribal effort and not just our effort thereby making the kill less impressive. But the idea of having the entire tibe making Javelins is a good one, and your reminder that it is a tibe of lionis also a good point. I think the best course of action would be we kill one lion and then lead a hunting band armed with Javelins, our new and impressive creation. That would outline us as a leader of the tribe and multiply the respect earned by the single lion kill.
May I point out that this is a large pride of lions, not just a single lion. we'll need a lot more throwing spears. can we get the rest of the tribe making them?Yeah they are affraid of a pride of lions, but we can wait and single out a single lion, kill it and bring it back as a trophy to the tribe. If they are affraid of the pride than that will be impressive enough, it will show lions can be killed. I don't think that until we come back with a lion we should ge the tribe involved and that will make it a tribal effort and not just our effort thereby making the kill less impressive. But the idea of having the entire tibe making Javelins is a good one, and your reminder that it is a tibe of lionis also a good point. I think the best course of action would be we kill one lion and then lead a hunting band armed with Javelins, our new and impressive creation. That would outline us as a leader of the tribe and multiply the respect earned by the single lion kill.
explain to me how we can get the lion in the hole and I agree completely, that is the only possible flaw I can see in this. Exempt that and it is perfect. We need a sound way to get the cat in the bag so to speak.May I point out that this is a large pride of lions, not just a single lion. we'll need a lot more throwing spears. can we get the rest of the tribe making them?Yeah they are affraid of a pride of lions, but we can wait and single out a single lion, kill it and bring it back as a trophy to the tribe. If they are affraid of the pride than that will be impressive enough, it will show lions can be killed. I don't think that until we come back with a lion we should ge the tribe involved and that will make it a tribal effort and not just our effort thereby making the kill less impressive. But the idea of having the entire tibe making Javelins is a good one, and your reminder that it is a tibe of lionis also a good point. I think the best course of action would be we kill one lion and then lead a hunting band armed with Javelins, our new and impressive creation. That would outline us as a leader of the tribe and multiply the respect earned by the single lion kill.
Agreed, but I like my trapping plan either way. If we manage to dig the hole deep and wide enough, we can kill it at our leisure. if not, I would like the Javelin to get that good through off. Hopefully it will strike it somewhere in the legs or back, slowing it down. If we can hit the spine, even better. We might want to make a sling, though, too. So, instead of having an area lined with sharp rocks, we can toss really sharp rocks at it, which, if we undershoot, it will step on, causing it to trip up and maybe buy us enough time to spear its throat or head.
We're not planning how to just survive these lions, were planning to kill them for greater glory, otherwise we wouldn't be trying to solo it. As for getting the lion into the pit, we just bait a pitfall trap with some leftover gazelle bits. However, digging a pit large enough to hold a fully grown lion without a shovel and covering it with just enough support to hold up only the bait and nothing more is going to take quite a bit of effort, so we're not going to have any traps for a while. Lets also gain a little more throwing experience before we take on the lion, either by practicing, hunting, or both.Yeah that is a good point that hole would take a long ass time to make. In addition ot gaining more practice we should make like four or so more javelins in order to have more to throw at the lion and in case any break. I doubt we will be able to throw more than 3 Javelins, the others are just back ups and there in case we can get in more shots.
note: I said the collective of lions, I.E. a pride.Yeah I know the paln is to kill one, which should at least garner some respect, and then show off how we killed it with oure javelins, and lead a hunting party to eradicate the lions. So in the end we should gain a lot of respect.
No, the plan, as I recall it, is to kill one for glory, and then kill all the rest. That's dumb. If we can somehow lure one away and kill it, making ourselves look good, that's a good idea. But we shouldn't try to take on the pride. This area isn't even that nice if I remember. How exactly are we planning on luring the lion away?we dont. Males tend to stay back during hunts, to guard the cubs. Prides usually consist of one male and several females. Females hunt because the mane on the male can overheat it quickly. By that logic, we only have to deal with the male and the cubs if we wait until the women leave to grab some grub.
can we make/ practice with more javelins? lions are not forgiving first targets and one throw might not be enough to bring it down anyway.Yeah lets make more Javelins and then go with killing one of the lions as per Zomara's suggestion.
No, the plan, as I recall it, is to kill one for glory, and then kill all the rest. That's dumb. If we can somehow lure one away and kill it, making ourselves look good, that's a good idea. But we shouldn't try to take on the pride. This area isn't even that nice if I remember. How exactly are we planning on luring the lion away?I don't rember anyone sugesting we kill the lions by ourself, and you are correct that would be sucidal. After The GM reminded us that it was a pride they were affraid of we changed the idea from just getting one kill to getting one kill and then going back and getting more people with more javelins to help us finish the pride. With a group of 5 or so people armed with javelins we could gradually wear down the lions through hit and run raids on lions while they are away from the pride. The reason we want to kill the pride is that leading a hunting party would demonstrate leadership skills, showing people how to make javelins themselves shows intelligence, while the kill itself will only garner repsect for our hunting prowess. This is a three pronged approach to respect gain. Zomara addresed your question.
YAY! research does come in handy!!!can we make/ practice with more javelins? lions are not forgiving first targets and one throw might not be enough to bring it down anyway.Yeah lets make more Javelins and then go with killing one of the lions as per Zomara's suggestion.No, the plan, as I recall it, is to kill one for glory, and then kill all the rest. That's dumb. If we can somehow lure one away and kill it, making ourselves look good, that's a good idea. But we shouldn't try to take on the pride. This area isn't even that nice if I remember. How exactly are we planning on luring the lion away?I don't rember anyone sugesting we kill the lions by ourself, and you are correct that would be sucidal. After The GM reminded us that it was a pride they were affraid of we changed the idea from just getting one kill to getting one kill and then going back and getting more people with more javelins to help us finish the pride. With a group of 5 or so people armed with javelins we could gradually wear down the lions through hit and run raids on lions while they are away from the pride. The reason we want to kill the pride is that leading a hunting party would demonstrate leadership skills, showing people how to make javelins themselves shows intelligence, while the kill itself will only garner repsect for our hunting prowess. This is a three pronged approach to respect gain. Zomara addresed your question.
You are quite right that taking a pride of lions head on, even with the entire tribe armed with javelins, would be stupid. Hence as articulated we should kill the lions gradually.
so, you agreed upon that 'go train a bit with the javelin, kill male lion as females are hunting' stuff?When it comes to the kill male lion plan, There was broad based agreement to kill one lion, at least, and once the trap was proved impractical we were left with just a nameless plan to go and kill a lion. Zamara's plan is just a specification on the aformentioned vague plan.
respect is set back to 0.yeah thats what i thought, damn. At least we have nothing to lose with this new guy.
or whatever amount of respect that guy has.
Kittens! :DNow, we pull a Caligula. They are our kittens now. We must feed them from our food. We must hunt for them and then later teach them how to hunt.
I thought we did that for fun?Yeah its not like you have to force people to procreate, they just kind of do it naturally .
That sounded much more forced than I meant it to. I mean, just try to make sure everyone has a fun time. That will likely happen anyway, and ya know what have as many crazy feasts as possible in that month so as to maximize the chances. Again don't force people, just set up the right conditions and they should do it themselves.Construct throwing spears for the entire tribe, as well as regular spears if they don't have them, as well as knifes. Have them bring you the material and then show them how to make them as you make it. Then, with your new equipment, go out and hunt and gather for a month. At the end of the month, with all the food you have gathered, have a feast. Make sure that as many woman as possible become pregnent, we need more people.
Also as an aside: I am so sorry I was so stuborn last month. I felt so guilty, I thought my intransigence had killed the game. Thank god this is back.
nah, it was my life getting in the way, combined with my laziness.
also, are you treating humans like cattle? O.o
I thought the B12 forums were odd, but not THAT odd...
also, need more booze for that sort of thing, trying to get laid as much as possible.
here, the two are interchangeable, also, +1 to Palau's planWell if the woman is on fire I'm not sure how succesful the pregnency will be, but yeah +1 to me. (fun>!!FUN!!)
And take care of the cubs. Feed them and tame them to sit and attack objects on command. starting with small fruits and use small animals as treats. +1here, the two are interchangeable, also, +1 to Palau's planWell if the woman is on fire I'm not sure how succesful the pregnency will be, but yeah +1 to me. (fun>!!FUN!!)
Lions can't eat fruit, just use some of our excess food.And take care of the cubs. Feed them and tame them to sit and attack objects on command. starting with small fruits and use small animals as treats. +1here, the two are interchangeable, also, +1 to Palau's planWell if the woman is on fire I'm not sure how succesful the pregnency will be, but yeah +1 to me. (fun>!!FUN!!)
Offer them any food and drink we have.I would suggest we offer them a place at the feast first instead, the offer them all the food and drink we have.
Good Idea Mabye after we're on friendlyier terms offer them a Throwing spear and show them how to us it.Offer them any food and drink we have.I would suggest we offer them a place at the feast first instead, the offer them all the food and drink we have.
Should we do this before or after they stab us with spears?preferably before :P
update possibly later today. Yesterday, real life got in the way of the oh-so-more important game life.Hopefully tommorow.
Also, wear that motherfucking mask.Yeah do this, and @minority the reason I wanted to see where they live and how many people there are is so we could meet them on some sort of field in front of their camp and demand they join us or be killed. That is if they are smaller, if they are bigger we should just stay away.
A month is far too long, by the time the month is over the tribe will likely have moved. We could employ Piro's techniques in the interrogation of Saddam Hussien, but we don't have the time. Lets just tie him up (with plant fibers and stuff we find lying around) not give him any food or water for one day, and have two armed guards stationed next to him with orders to not let him get any sleep. When we wake up the next day, tell him we will treat him like one of our own if he just tells us were the other tribe is and how big it is. If he doesn't agree to this sick the cubs on him, and tell him if he so much as bruises one of the cubs we will make his life much, much worse.
Bay 12ers I dream of a day when we have full grown lions to sick on our enemies, and not just cubs!
No I was suggesting we sick the cubs on him while he is tied up, and if he tries to injure the cubs while he is tied up (no idea how he would od that with his hands and feet tied, maybe try to bite them or something...?) we make his life worse in ways to be determined latter...A month is far too long, by the time the month is over the tribe will likely have moved. We could employ Piro's techniques in the interrogation of Saddam Hussien, but we don't have the time. Lets just tie him up (with plant fibers and stuff we find lying around) not give him any food or water for one day, and have two armed guards stationed next to him with orders to not let him get any sleep. When we wake up the next day, tell him we will treat him like one of our own if he just tells us were the other tribe is and how big it is. If he doesn't agree to this sick the cubs on him, and tell him if he so much as bruises one of the cubs we will make his life much, much worse.
Bay 12ers I dream of a day when we have full grown lions to sick on our enemies, and not just cubs!
I consed to this, but, we do have to physically weaken him first, so that he has a hard time fighting against the cubs. or at least running from them. And we have to hunt with them. Period.
works for me.No I was suggesting we sick the cubs on him while he is tied up, and if he tries to injure the cubs while he is tied up (no idea how he would od that with his hands and feet tied, maybe try to bite them or something...?) we make his life worse in ways to be determined latter...A month is far too long, by the time the month is over the tribe will likely have moved. We could employ Piro's techniques in the interrogation of Saddam Hussien, but we don't have the time. Lets just tie him up (with plant fibers and stuff we find lying around) not give him any food or water for one day, and have two armed guards stationed next to him with orders to not let him get any sleep. When we wake up the next day, tell him we will treat him like one of our own if he just tells us were the other tribe is and how big it is. If he doesn't agree to this sick the cubs on him, and tell him if he so much as bruises one of the cubs we will make his life much, much worse.
Bay 12ers I dream of a day when we have full grown lions to sick on our enemies, and not just cubs!
I consed to this, but, we do have to physically weaken him first, so that he has a hard time fighting against the cubs. or at least running from them. And we have to hunt with them. Period.
Once we can make masks maybe we can make some sort of armour the same way? Like a chest plate held on with plant fiber rope to defend against spears if the other tribe returns+1
And dont make the mistake that the other tribe did. We dont just make one, we make several. we dont just go out with one, our whole party wears it. It conceals who is the main guy.+1
lol, I just meant increasing the chances.Over the course of a month go looking for other tribes. Before you start searching however, make 3 throwing spears for everyone in the tribe and try to build up a small stock of food so we can use it in the course of diplomacy. Also try to figure out how to make portable tents. Think of it like expanded cloths. You have put things abovve your head and have noticied it keeps the rain away, and you like the animal fur wrapped around your body, so wouldn't it be nice to have animal fur constantly above your head? (just trying to think about how the first guy to come up with the idea of tents thought about it.)you can't just go up to people and get laid.
Also, I hope for this entire time we were procreating. We need some more people.
It's largely down to chance.
or rape, if the mood ever takes you... but that does lower respect of the tribe massively.
you can't just go up to people and get laid.Sigged
+1 to finding more peopleFTFY (sorry that was kind of obsessive compulsive of me but I had to do it)
Also, is everyone in our tribeefficientProficent with the throwing spears? We only trained up the old guy as far as i remember, so we should make sure everyone has some skill.
And make some packs from animal skin to carry food in.
Update today, maybe?+1 :P
-2+3-5+8+3-11Update today, maybe?+1 :P
Diplomacy at spear point? I like it, although might it be better to try and make allies? How far away are they from our home?This.
Idea: surround them but stay hidden, at night so we can hide, and then send one person in alone, claiming to be lost. If they dont act kindly, attack because they will be distracted. It they offer to help, then we know they arent the nasty tribe from before and we can 'be reunited' with our lost member, and make some allies.
+1Diplomacy at spear point? I like it, although might it be better to try and make allies? How far away are they from our home?This.
Idea: surround them but stay hidden, at night so we can hide, and then send one person in alone, claiming to be lost. If they dont act kindly, attack because they will be distracted. It they offer to help, then we know they arent the nasty tribe from before and we can 'be reunited' with our lost member, and make some allies.
yay! :) great to know its not dead.Or is it... bum bum bum ba!
Been missing this thread.
Why not have most of the tribe go back to where we would normally be, but send two men out to pose as a "search party" for our "lost man" a day from now. They are overjoyed to have him returned, and invite the other tribe to our camp for some delicious dinner.This, but go with the entire tribe, because if you would really send a search party and they would return, their tribe has moved already.
While there, speak with the leader. See if a friendship is possible.
Ironicaly, that was my favorite stage in spore :P.Bring them back game offerings. A peace basket, if you will.suddenly: SPORE: TRIBAL STAGE!
ThisWhy not have most of the tribe go back to where we would normally be, but send two men out to pose as a "search party" for our "lost man" a day from now. They are overjoyed to have him returned, and invite the other tribe to our camp for some delicious dinner.This, but go with the entire tribe, because if you would really send a search party and they would return, their tribe has moved already.
While there, speak with the leader. See if a friendship is possible.
ThisWhy not have most of the tribe go back to where we would normally be, but send two men out to pose as a "search party" for our "lost man" a day from now. They are overjoyed to have him returned, and invite the other tribe to our camp for some delicious dinner.This, but go with the entire tribe, because if you would really send a search party and they would return, their tribe has moved already.
While there, speak with the leader. See if a friendship is possible.
Share some food we have and see if they would be ok with teaching you to spear fish.What's a fish?
Be nice and thank them for their assistance. Ask them what they're doing to the water, and what they call the shiny things coming from it. Did we bring the speared gazelle? Perhaps we could have a large dinner to celebrate the return of our tribesmen by this tribe of well-natured men and women?
+1 2 this.Be nice and thank them for their assistance. Ask them what they're doing to the water, and what they call the shiny things coming from it. Did we bring the speared gazelle? Perhaps we could have a large dinner to celebrate the return of our tribesmen by this tribe of well-natured men and women?
I love this idea, because it was the one I wanted to happen in the first place.
wooop, age of man!+1 2 this.Be nice and thank them for their assistance. Ask them what they're doing to the water, and what they call the shiny things coming from it. Did we bring the speared gazelle? Perhaps we could have a large dinner to celebrate the return of our tribesmen by this tribe of well-natured men and women?
I love this idea, because it was the one I wanted to happen in the first place.
Still alive.wooop, age of man!+1 2 this.Be nice and thank them for their assistance. Ask them what they're doing to the water, and what they call the shiny things coming from it. Did we bring the speared gazelle? Perhaps we could have a large dinner to celebrate the return of our tribesmen by this tribe of well-natured men and women?
I love this idea, because it was the one I wanted to happen in the first place.
(It lives! I did it! i'm a Necromancer!! I brought the dead back to the living!!)I think almost half of this thread is bumps now :-P
Continue improving diplomatic relations with visits and parties. Eventually, we will probably merge the tribes, but for now they're new and both probably see the other as something scary and curious, definitely not as a self. Still, the feast should have helped enormously.
What we should work on right now as a tribe is the prerequisites for a city, which is to say, agriculture. It's risky bidness though; if the crops fail, we have to have enough food to keep going a whole year without growing any food. With that thought, our next objective is mass hunting and/or domestication.
Have a few tribesmen work on making a few tactics for catching a whole herd or most of a herd of gazelle. Only the tactics though, as we don't want to over-hunt and extinct them, at least not yet. If we have the man power, I also would like to suggest we gather a group of people to work on finding out how to live with animals close by. Look for fat, slow animals that would benefit from the protection we give them, or smart animals we can use to help hunt and keep vermin away from the stockpiles.
We should also find saltwater. I think we're next to a lake, but it could be an ocean, I'm not sure. We need some sort of pottery to extract the salt from the water, but once we do we can store meat for much longer periods of time. Jerky!
Yes, begin training the Lions in the art of the hunt. Or rather, get them to listen to commands and not just wander off and do whatever the F**k they want.Continue improving diplomatic relations with visits and parties. Eventually, we will probably merge the tribes, but for now they're new and both probably see the other as something scary and curious, definitely not as a self. Still, the feast should have helped enormously.
What we should work on right now as a tribe is the prerequisites for a city, which is to say, agriculture. It's risky bidness though; if the crops fail, we have to have enough food to keep going a whole year without growing any food. With that thought, our next objective is mass hunting and/or domestication.
Have a few tribesmen work on making a few tactics for catching a whole herd or most of a herd of gazelle. Only the tactics though, as we don't want to over-hunt and extinct them, at least not yet. If we have the man power, I also would like to suggest we gather a group of people to work on finding out how to live with animals close by. Look for fat, slow animals that would benefit from the protection we give them, or smart animals we can use to help hunt and keep vermin away from the stockpiles.
We should also find saltwater. I think we're next to a lake, but it could be an ocean, I'm not sure. We need some sort of pottery to extract the salt from the water, but once we do we can store meat for much longer periods of time. Jerky!
We still have our two kittens we have yet to utilize. Lets do some training with them.
Lets work with this other tribe make them a few tents, because from the looks of it they are static, with a constant food source. This will greatly help in making them join us.This, so much this. Not only will it help them join us, but it will help us found a village.
Notice the wolfs (half-dogs) that sneak close to eat your Meat -garbage and carcasses.wolves? what wolves?
this is Africa, AFAIK, wolves don't live in Africa.
also, you still have the lions.
That is one weird looking wolf. It looks like a cross between a fox and a dingo.Notice the wolfs (half-dogs) that sneak close to eat your Meat -garbage and carcasses.wolves? what wolves?
this is Africa, AFAIK, wolves don't live in Africa.
also, you still have the lions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_wolf
In that line of reasoning, lets work on bettering our tentmaking skills. Finding leaves around the area that repell water. They live near a lake, where it is more common to find those.This, aswell.
That is one weird looking wolf. It looks like a cross between a fox and a dingo.Notice the wolfs (half-dogs) that sneak close to eat your Meat -garbage and carcasses.wolves? what wolves?
this is Africa, AFAIK, wolves don't live in Africa.
also, you still have the lions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_wolf
Who ever said we where in Africa?It was mentioned a while ago that we were in the birth place of humanity, as there is no other place to be by now.
Maybe we are at the nile? ???Dont be silly, someone would have seen the pyramids by now.
The Piramides where build when there was civilization.I was joking :P
And there isn't any civilization yet. so the piramides aren't build yet.
'Bout becoming urban - sometime back there was talk about religious centers as the locations of the first cities, without even agriculture. How about picking that up? convince the other tribe that we follow some higher being that protects us from the evil everywhere, and that the masks are necessary for that. If they don't give in, present them with some (poisoned) meat and warn them about stomachache being the consequence of not following the surpreme being beforehand.Let's not poison our allies?
(Only a little bit poisoned, of course; we don't want them to actually die :D )
Let's not poison our allies?We could poison them a little bit... You know, to make them fear the evil that is all around us.
Set up that permanent settlement and begin specialization. That's the key to advancement.Yes.
NONONONONONO, i didn't trade these fishing poles without a reason!we only have ten people in the tribe right now, we can't do much more than gather food.
Half of these gatherers have to fish!
And we need a bone carver who makes bone arrows or .... wait, we don't even have a bow or his tech!
Research bow and arrow!
Set to work gathering many, many berries to plant. Tell a good 6/10ths of the tribe that from now on their sole purpose in life is to provide food by cultivating these bushes, and that they will form the backbone of your new society.Yeah, as someone said before: Specialization is the key to success. For specialization, however, we need more technology; I suggest (as can be seen on the previous page) metalworking and sailing/canooing. Bow & arrow is good too though.
After they have begun their work, gather the rest of the tribe. A pair is to be warriors/hunters, and the rest are craftsmen of various trades. The warriors will defend the tribe, and the craftsmen will provide us with the tools we need.
Nope. Mercy-kill him.Not necessarily gangrene, but wound infections were back then practically a death sentence.
Flesh is rotting, he has a gangrene. Nothing can helps him now.
A very slow, painful death sentence.
Wikipedia says copper has been known for ~10.000 years, so it would be in our timmeframe. Hooray!
Also, let the new people join, and let the wounded guy live - mercy-killing him might be seen as a hostile act.
Get specialized farmers, fishers and warriors - whoever wounded that guy might want to also wound us.
Look for trees, try to invent boats (would make fishers more effective).
Why not ask him what we should do? Ask how far gone he has to be before being given mercy.Yup, sounds good. Definitely better than simply, you know, stabbing him :D
In the meantime, wash the wound, try to take care of it.
Stabbing is always a good idea! >:( :PWhy not ask him what we should do? Ask how far gone he has to be before being given mercy.Yup, sounds good. Definitely better than simply, you know, stabbing him :D
In the meantime, wash the wound, try to take care of it.
just remember- you may follow it and promote it, that doesn't mean everyone else in the tribe will, too.Let's just go lassez-faire on religion until one has emerged as dominant (which I hope will happen, hint hint ;)); then, crush the infidels.
Convert, slowly move to monotheism.That's not really how it worked though, the Hebrew were fairly monotheistic from the beginning, it was the Diaspora that started converting everyone else.
(Nature spirits --> Earth mother ---> greek/roman-style pantheon ----> monotheistic god in whose name we shall commit horrible atrocities! )
I know it didn't happen like that - that was just a suggestion how it might work for us: Slowly moving away from pagan concepts towards more and more abstract concepts of the divine. Maybe after monotheism we can go to something like enlightened pantheism (google pantheism if you don't know it; it's a cool concept :D )Convert, slowly move to monotheism.That's not really how it worked though, the Hebrew were fairly monotheistic from the beginning, it was the Diaspora that started converting everyone else.
(Nature spirits --> Earth mother ---> greek/roman-style pantheon ----> monotheistic god in whose name we shall commit horrible atrocities! )
Then christianity took over. It was almost usurped by Islam, but Islam began too late, I think. The enlightenment hit before it could convert enough people to be bigger than Christianity.
Gah. Try to save him.The less Xenophobic we make ourselves, the harder we become to conquer, as the enemy that takes our land is slowly transformed into the Mali by a different name.
It will have no use and will waste ressources, but whatever.
Something like that kept happening to the historical babylonians: They would get conquered, and their temple-tower would be desecrated by the new ruler. But only a few generations later, the ruler's offspring would once again have everyone worship the old babylonian gods...Gah. Try to save him.The less Xenophobic we make ourselves, the harder we become to conquer, as the enemy that takes our land is slowly transformed into the Mali by a different name.
It will have no use and will waste ressources, but whatever.
We become a Center Nation.
Try to breed the lions.Lets keep out of the religious aspect. Let it form naturaly, not rushed, or we might loose respect.
And if a solareclips comes, predict evil to come.( again because of our religion.)
Well, we should promote religion as it develops (opium for the masses and all that :D )(I mean that as a compliment to religion btw), pushing it in a peaceful, non-xenophobic, solidarity-promoting direction. But do nothing that could harm our social standing!Try to breed the lions.Lets keep out of the religious aspect. Let it form naturaly, not rushed, or we might loose respect.
And if a solareclips comes, predict evil to come.( again because of our religion.)
Also, try to catch some animals. But do nothing dangerous.Animal farming may be a viable tactic. To make use of the parts of the steppe that can't be used for agriculture, you know.
What are ores?
Is that another new type of food?
What are ores?
Is that another new type of food?
Nice answer :D
What are ores?
Is that another new type of food?
Nice answer :D
Look for shiny rocks that have a color of dark dried grass.
What are ores?
Is that another new type of food?
Nice answer :D
Look for shiny rocks that have a color of dark dried grass.
Sure. i dont know why i would do that, but, it might be fun. We might find some good hunt or farming land on the way. or more people to assimu- i mean, greet.
Throw them in a fire.What are ores?
Is that another new type of food?
Nice answer :D
Look for shiny rocks that have a color of dark dried grass.
Sure. i dont know why i would do that, but, it might be fun. We might find some good hunt or farming land on the way. or more people to assimu- i mean, greet.
Yeah, we can do that while foraging for food.
What are we doing with these rocks anyway?
Throw them in a fire.What are ores?
Is that another new type of food?
Nice answer :D
Look for shiny rocks that have a color of dark dried grass.
Sure. i dont know why i would do that, but, it might be fun. We might find some good hunt or farming land on the way. or more people to assimu- i mean, greet.
Yeah, we can do that while foraging for food.
What are we doing with these rocks anyway?
(Carbon from charcoal/wood would effect reduction)
(Also probably examine other properties. Water, heat, hitting them...)
But we don't know that yet!Throw them in a fire.What are ores?
Is that another new type of food?
Nice answer :D
Look for shiny rocks that have a color of dark dried grass.
Sure. i dont know why i would do that, but, it might be fun. We might find some good hunt or farming land on the way. or more people to assimu- i mean, greet.
Yeah, we can do that while foraging for food.
What are we doing with these rocks anyway?
(Carbon from charcoal/wood would effect reduction)
(Also probably examine other properties. Water, heat, hitting them...)
For what? Stones don't burn.
But we don't know that yet!Throw them in a fire.What are ores?
Is that another new type of food?
Nice answer :D
Look for shiny rocks that have a color of dark dried grass.
Sure. i dont know why i would do that, but, it might be fun. We might find some good hunt or farming land on the way. or more people to assimu- i mean, greet.
Yeah, we can do that while foraging for food.
What are we doing with these rocks anyway?
(Carbon from charcoal/wood would effect reduction)
(Also probably examine other properties. Water, heat, hitting them...)
For what? Stones don't burn.
Just imagine some kind of shamanic alchemist.
(Or non-shamanic, because we don't have religion yet ;) )
copper ore: veins of copper? on the surface? not gonna be common.
and the reason we don't find copper in our back gardens is because of the soil covering it.
Look. The most we know about stone is that its good for throwing at stuff and the sharp ones can be placed on long sticks for piercing range. Lets focus on doing things that we would figure out from previous experience. use the mask for an example. We got it off another tribe. It was made from vine-like wood. Vine-like wood looked firmilure to what we have seen in the past. We found the wood, and copied the mask. Learned how to make masks.
Look. The most we know about stone is that its good for throwing at stuff and the sharp ones can be placed on long sticks for piercing range. Lets focus on doing things that we would figure out from previous experience. use the mask for an example. We got it off another tribe. It was made from vine-like wood. Vine-like wood looked firmilure to what we have seen in the past. We found the wood, and copied the mask. Learned how to make masks.
Re-engineering and adapting technology is easier than inventing anyway.But invention has to take place somewhere, did take place somewhere - we might just as well try doing that ourselves. Although we should send out some scouts to find nearby tribes...
We only have the 12, and 90% of them are dedicated wholly to food production at least.Re-engineering and adapting technology is easier than inventing anyway.But invention has to take place somewhere, did take place somewhere - we might just as well try doing that ourselves. Although we should send out some scouts to find nearby tribes...
Don't we already have chest armor? And do we know yet what injured the guy that died?
(Also, alchemy accomplished some things - the discovery of phosphorus, for example, and the evolution into actual chemistry :P . It could very well be that someone with the same inclinations made the initial discovery of metal. Just my .02 though; maybe there actually are some more important things to do. But couldn't we spare one guy to do stuff like that, just messing around? )
put sticks on the side of the boat: I_( )Or even better: Observe that the boat had the tendency to flip, then fix a boat to another boat using some sticks:
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Evolve to go back into the water!!!+1
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P ;D
The lake: The Atlantic Ocean ;Dthe atlantic ocean isn't freshwater!
My ancestors dumped a shitload of salt in it 1 million years ago!
>Discover the concept of a lever+1
Lake Victoria*ding ding ding*
we got an answer that was correct!
Give it to me too! Double your money, then give it to the internet!Lake Victoria*ding ding ding*
we got an answer that was correct!
Now gimme all your money.
And then the dolphins died.NO! I have to fix my ancestor's mistake and desalinify the oceans!Lake Victoria*ding ding ding*
we got an answer that was correct!
Now gimme all your money.
Who cares about gay sharks anyway?And then the dolphins died.NO! I have to fix my ancestor's mistake and desalinify the oceans!Lake Victoria*ding ding ding*
we got an answer that was correct!
Now gimme all your money.
Well, they did put on nice parades...Who cares about gay sharks anyway?And then the dolphins died.NO! I have to fix my ancestor's mistake and desalinify the oceans!Lake Victoria*ding ding ding*
we got an answer that was correct!
Now gimme all your money.
No, the pictures filename.Thats a nice jasper pebble he's got there.you looked at the link, didn't you? >.>
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Worship the red stone and build an altar for it.No. but, we can keep it and set it aside. it is different from everything here, so it must be special. Maybe we can see if it is easy to sharpen. Before we do that, we should find more, though.
fruit juice?Alright then, make a brew from sprouted seeds to strengthen us. On discovering that it tastes terrible, leave it in the sun to subsequently discover -completely accidentally, of course - the intoxicating properties of the brew.
wozzat?
fruit juice?Alright then, make a brew from sprouted seeds to strengthen us. On discovering that it tastes terrible, leave it in the sun to subsequently discover -completely accidentally, of course - the intoxicating properties of the brew.
wozzat?
(I would have expected at least some fruit in the area...)
It's broken, we need to set it. But the water treatment should help nevertheless.fruit juice?Alright then, make a brew from sprouted seeds to strengthen us. On discovering that it tastes terrible, leave it in the sun to subsequently discover -completely accidentally, of course - the intoxicating properties of the brew.
wozzat?
(I would have expected at least some fruit in the area...)
there is some fruit, but we don't know that we can get juice out of it.
But anyway,BECOME A DEMON
rest until you feel a little better and then put your wrist alternately in cold and warm water.
hey, if you want fruit, you could always try finding a desert gourd.Or sober.
no promises it'll leave you alive.
also, you could have a problem and accidentally make methylated spirits. methanol=toxic.Yeah, that doesn't really happen with fermented stuff. Most of the stories of people going blind come from these people drinking denatured (mixed with methanol for tax purposes) alcohol. Even when making moonshine you're pretty safe if you throw away the first ~10% of liquid that distills over.
Well, the axe works as planned, but some refinement is certainly needed.+1
If you think about it logically, the worst part is sharpening and tying on all the stone blades. We need a better way to sharpen stone. But how...
No matter. The axe works as planned, if a bit shoddy, and the Atl-atl was a brilliant idea. That should improve our protien intake which'll lead to more discoveries quicker.
Now that we have a way of getting wood reliably, if slowly, we need to think about what else is keeping us from progressing farther. We're farming and so control our own food supply of plants, the water doesn't go anywhere so that's not an issue. Resources are abundant, even if we still rely mostly on random drops, and our hunting boost from the Atl-atl should keep us fed with animals for quite a bit.
That just leaves shelter. We need bigger houses to fit more people so we can have more people. And we don't have enough skin and twigs to build bigger tents. We need to build out of what we have more than enough of: wood, stone, and mostly, mud/clay.
Stone is too difficult to work and wood is still too difficult to obtain. We need to find a way to build permanent shelters out of clay or mud. try shaping some into a block and leaving it in the sun to get the water out.
+2Well, the axe works as planned, but some refinement is certainly needed.+1
If you think about it logically, the worst part is sharpening and tying on all the stone blades. We need a better way to sharpen stone. But how...
No matter. The axe works as planned, if a bit shoddy, and the Atl-atl was a brilliant idea. That should improve our protien intake which'll lead to more discoveries quicker.
Now that we have a way of getting wood reliably, if slowly, we need to think about what else is keeping us from progressing farther. We're farming and so control our own food supply of plants, the water doesn't go anywhere so that's not an issue. Resources are abundant, even if we still rely mostly on random drops, and our hunting boost from the Atl-atl should keep us fed with animals for quite a bit.
That just leaves shelter. We need bigger houses to fit more people so we can have more people. And we don't have enough skin and twigs to build bigger tents. We need to build out of what we have more than enough of: wood, stone, and mostly, mud/clay.
Stone is too difficult to work and wood is still too difficult to obtain. We need to find a way to build permanent shelters out of clay or mud. try shaping some into a block and leaving it in the sun to get the water out.
So we must pull a kobold and find us some shiny?Shiny won't help us right now. Especially not the shiny we could work with campfires. Stone will work until we have cities, like it did in history.
We knapp. Why not grind (rub?)? It is much slower, but you waste less rocks doing so, and, with persistence, can get the sharp edge we want.I'm thinking chiseling myself.
We're at Lake victoria, right? Let's go look for the Nile.
Lett's just tell them to go round the lake till they find a very large stream; then we can migrate up along it and simulate Ancient Egypt.We're at Lake victoria, right? Let's go look for the Nile.
WE, know that but, we dont know that, or about the nile.
Let's just keep the story going and related to the present,
I say we teach the rest of the tribe how to make axes whilst we repair the old one
+1Let's just keep the story going and related to the present,
I say we teach the rest of the tribe how to make axes whilst we repair the old one
i agree, i think the further development of technology is a priority, as the viability of a location can change, our development should stay roughly the same no matter what happens
Also, if there are any large, hooved animals about, we could try to tame them like we did the lions. Then we would have a steady source of meat and some extra labor. It's easier to farm when you don't have to dig each hole, instead you just drive a herd of cattle over it and they press the seeds into the ground.+1 for domestication
I bought this threadwasdead
No matter we could teach the tribe and look for animls to domesticate
this threadwasdead but now this threadaintdeadNecromancy level, over 9000!
Unless someone else's necro catches the owners attention, in which case the original necro would have succeeded.Also, apparently Greatorder is the real necromancer here.Only the thread owner can necro a thread truly.
CLAY WALLSNah, that would take way too long and wouldn't actually solve the problem permanently.
Build a fireplace out of clay. (Mmmhh, where's this going? :P )This
Send out scouts to spread word of our victory and offer allegiances to any tribes they might find. Teams of three, with spears, breastplates and clay body paint.