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I am religious and believe in free will

70 (27.6%)

I am religious and do not believe in free will

10 (3.9%)

I am not religious and believe in free will

113 (44.5%)

I am not religious and do not believe in free will

61 (24%)

Total Members Voted: 249

[Dozebôm Lolumzalìs]

Hey guys, so these holy railguns? Sounds like a...

 

church militant

YEAAAAAAAAAAAH!

[Kot]

Do you know what time it is?

It's DEUS VULT'O CLOCK!

[Loud Whispers]

Do you know what time it is?

It's DEUS VULT'O CLOCK!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Deus Vult'O Clock was 45 minutes ago!!!

[TD1]

If you're sorry God knows you're sorry, and he's all that counts. What does it matter if you act to repair what was done? There's no need for reparation if you genuinely feel sorry and internally repent. After all, this world doesn't really matter except as a training-ground for the soul, so any damage you did that you may feel bad about doesn't really matter, and in fact could aid in someone else's spiritual growth.

[Arx]

If you don't act to repair what you've done, you clearly don't actually regret it.

Like if you nick someone's wallet, and then feel bad. But you keep the wallet instead of giving it back. Clearly you don't feel that bad.

[Kot]

This also applies if you return the wallet but keep the money you found inside.

[TD1]

This is assuming you ascribe value to the wallet.

If the only thing of value is not the monetary value of the object, but the moral weight of the actions, then repenting and morally cleansing yourself makes you a-okay. Certainly, if you truly repent then you may give the wallet back. Or you might donate it to charity. The point is that it isn't needed, and is only representative of the truly valuable event - the repentance. If you kept the wallet for whatever the result would be the same.

[Orange Wizard]

"Hey have you seen my wallet"
"Yeah sorry I gave it to the Salvation Army"
"Why?"
"Because it doesn't matter what I do with it as long as I'm sorry"

[Kot]

This is assuming you ascribe value to the wallet.

This is assuming the person you stole from doesn't ascribe value to the wallet.
Repent as much as you want but if someone is going to starve then you're fooking evil, even if you think it's A-Okay because you feel sorry for it.

[TD1]

"Hey have you seen my wallet"
"Yeah sorry I gave it to the Salvation Army"
"Why?"
"Because it doesn't matter what I do with it as long as I'm sorry"

This is assuming you ascribe value to the wallet.

This is assuming the person you stole from doesn't ascribe value to the wallet.
Repent as much as you want but if someone is going to starve then you're fooking evil, even if you think it's A-Okay because you feel sorry for it.

Pretty much. Christianity, everybody.

[Orange Wizard]

Your argument is bad and you should feel bad

[scrdest]

"Hey have you seen my wallet"
"Yeah sorry I gave it to the Salvation Army"
"Why?"
"Because it doesn't matter what I do with it as long as I'm sorry"

This is assuming you ascribe value to the wallet.

This is assuming the person you stole from doesn't ascribe value to the wallet.
Repent as much as you want but if someone is going to starve then you're fooking evil, even if you think it's A-Okay because you feel sorry for it.

Pretty much. Christianity, everybody.

It's more than a little bit disingenuous to criticize Christianity as a whole by way of theology you ascribe to them. That is, if anything, a niche belief of a niche belief of Protestantism specifically.

[TD1]

"Hey have you seen my wallet"
"Yeah sorry I gave it to the Salvation Army"
"Why?"
"Because it doesn't matter what I do with it as long as I'm sorry"

This is assuming you ascribe value to the wallet.

This is assuming the person you stole from doesn't ascribe value to the wallet.
Repent as much as you want but if someone is going to starve then you're fooking evil, even if you think it's A-Okay because you feel sorry for it.

Pretty much. Christianity, everybody.

It's more than a little bit disingenuous to criticize Christianity as a whole by way of theology you ascribe to them. That is, if anything, a niche belief of a niche belief of Protestantism specifically.

Eh, to change what I had written here (which essentially said "I know as much as any Christian, and other people say the same as I do") I would like to add "prove me wrong"

[Kot]

Is this regular religion bashing by "dissilusioned atheist" or am I missing something?
Anyways, I was never a great fan of Christianity as an organization and in general think a lot of it is flawed (not that any other belief is better), but if living in Catholic country where I was taught Catholic values from start taught me anything, it taught me that there is a hidden Zeroth Commandment - don't be a dick. Stick to it.

[NRDL]

Yeah, but there's still the underlying question of not being a dick because you place value on the perspective and existence of the other person, or not being a dick because all of existence is based around the tenets and teachings of a theodical being beyond our comprehension, and it just so happens not being a dick kinda matches with His/Her/God's agenda.