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Title: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on May 22, 2013, 12:50:02 pm
I've decided to try to put my obsessively analytical personality to good use and document things as I go. I'm always trying to understand how and why my body and mind work they way they do, and how to modify them. I have a lot of physical and neurological problems, so it's an interesting study with no shortage of possibilities to consider.

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Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Levi on May 22, 2013, 01:23:10 pm
Gluten and Salt are REALLY hard to avoid unless you eat nothing but raw vegetables.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: freeformschooler on May 22, 2013, 01:24:27 pm
Gluten and Salt are REALLY hard to avoid unless you eat nothing but raw vegetables.  Good luck!

Salt yes, but my mom just finished her month-of-gluten free and came to the conclusion it wasn't as hard as she thought it would be. She was very diligent, though.

Good luck to you though, Sappho.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 22, 2013, 01:41:09 pm
Gluten and Salt are REALLY hard to avoid unless you eat nothing but raw vegetables.  Good luck!

No reason for them to be raw. I have a great bamboo steamer and I can make very good stir-frys with just fresh chopped herbs and veggies for flavor.

In any case, I'm not cutting out salt completely, but I've reduced it immensely from the amount I used to eat (which was a lot). If I put a normal amount of salt in the food I cook, it's still drastically less salt than I would get in, say, a single slice of pizza or a falafel pita at a food stand, or any kind of instant meal you'd get at the supermarket.

It is perfectly possible to just eat potatoes, corn, and rice for starchy stuff and avoid gluten, but it's definitely not as filling or as easy as smearing something on a slice of bread in 30 seconds and just eating. I actually thought this would be fairly easy, but it's only 4 days in and I'm having a really hard time. I'll have to persist at least until my hormones stabilize, as they can make things seem more difficult than they are.

In case anyone is interested, I got the information about salt and autoimmune disease here: http://www.trueactivist.com/scientists-officially-link-processed-foods-to-autoimmune-disease/

EDIT: Also, it's important to note that the salt I'm eating is mainly sea salt, which is quite healthy. According to this research, the problem is refined salt, which is what I'm trying to eliminate as much as possible.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: penguinofhonor on May 22, 2013, 01:43:33 pm
Get some potato bread.

And avoiding processed foods most definitely has benefits beyond not consuming gluten or salt. Make sure not to blame gluten on what crappy preservatives are actually doing.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DJ on May 22, 2013, 01:57:36 pm
How do you eat your corn? Cornbread should be fairly filling, I reckon.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Ameablable on May 22, 2013, 01:59:38 pm
Agreed cornbread is quite good and quite filling.
just very very dry..
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DJ on May 22, 2013, 02:05:25 pm
It should go well with a stew of some sort.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 22, 2013, 02:08:20 pm
Get some potato bread.

And avoiding processed foods most definitely has benefits beyond not consuming gluten or salt. Make sure not to blame gluten on what crappy preservatives are actually doing.

I stopped almost all processed foods when I decided to cut most of the salt, since the two go hand in hand. For sure I am avoiding preservatives, though I am only human and having been raised on McDonald's and instant ramen, I'm pretty strongly conditioned to crave the stuff, so I still indulge sometimes. These exceptions will *probably* not kill me.

I changed the salt about a month ago. I have definitely noticed some improvements. Now I'm doing the gluten as a separate test. The gluten I'm cutting isn't processed stuff really though. It's bread (some of which was homemade with sea salt and no preservatives, and the local style of bread contains salt but no preservatives and goes bad after just a day or two), homemade pizza, homemade buns and dumplings, vegetable soup with asian noodles, salads with cracked durum bulgur... This stuff is not unhealthy on its own, but if I do have an intolerance, I should notice a difference by cutting it from my diet. I honestly hope I don't feel any better, because I love those foods so much, and I've felt hungry for four days now.

Potato bread is mostly wheat flour, just with a little potato added. To my knowledge, it is not possible to bake bread using only potatoes.

I am going to try cornbread tonight though, gluten-free with cornmeal being the only grain. No idea how it will turn out - it's my first time making cornbread from scratch and definitely the first time without wheat flour in it. Wish me luck! As for other types of corn, they don't grow a lot of corn around here, so it's not easy to get corn on the cob and such. If I want corn I usually buy it frozen, but I don't use it very often. It's all about the potatoes in central Europe!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: penguinofhonor on May 22, 2013, 02:27:41 pm
Potato bread is mostly wheat flour, just with a little potato added. To my knowledge, it is not possible to bake bread using only potatoes.

This is an incredible disappointment.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 22, 2013, 02:33:46 pm
Potato bread is mostly wheat flour, just with a little potato added. To my knowledge, it is not possible to bake bread using only potatoes.

This is an incredible disappointment.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: misko27 on May 22, 2013, 02:48:43 pm
Interesting. There are, as people have said, few ways of pulling this off Although since, I'm trying to remember, about 10% of the population is allergic to some degree, and those who know live fine.


Luck to you.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Xantalos on May 22, 2013, 05:51:20 pm
Good luck!
Side note: this would make a good How to be a Human
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Akura on May 22, 2013, 06:03:33 pm
Potato bread is mostly wheat flour, just with a little potato added. To my knowledge, it is not possible to bake bread using only potatoes.

This is an incredible disappointment.
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_bread), the potato:wheat flour ratio can vary between having mostly flour to mostly potato. Unfortunately, the recipe for Irish potato bread linked from that article calls for a 1/2tsp of salt, so it might not be what you want for your salt-reduced diet, though you can substitute oatmeal for the flour.
Darn it, now I wan to try that recipe, especially the variant with apple filling.

Hope this works out for you, though.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Vector on May 22, 2013, 08:48:15 pm
Hmmm, I've gone gluten-free before by accident (I was trying to cut out white flour, which resulted in my cutting out all flour).  The horrible hunger does go away after a few days, or at least it did for me... I ended up backsliding due to stress, though.  While I was on that diet I'll admit that I felt much better.  More alert, better mood, all that good stuff.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Skyrunner on May 22, 2013, 10:09:12 pm
Dduk, something like rice cakes is filling! But it's also hard to make on your own, so no luck there. O_o

/me watches in interest
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DWC on May 22, 2013, 11:10:32 pm
I also started eating healthier a few years ago.

Sodium is really terrible for people. You should almost be aiming for a 'no sodium' diet rather then a 'low sodium' diet. You need very little salt to stay healthy, something like 25 to 50mg a day or ~2% of what the US government suggests. This is basically impossible to do anyways, because there is so much hidden sources of sodium in any kind of food. I just avoid it whenever humanly possible.

Dairy is generally bad for people too. It's full of hormones and opiate-like analogues and all sorts of garbage. It's meant for baby cows. I ended up cutting out of my diet a while and I ended up lactose intolerant afterwards anyways.

Gluten I'm not really convinced with, I'm pretty sure I'm not allergic to it, but I don't eat much bread anyways because of the sodium thing.

Another thing I discovered is the evils of phytoestrogens. Soy beans, legumes, hops in beer, all have phytoestrogens that function chemically much like estrogen in the human body. I avoid the worst offenders and go for lightly hopped beer. I don't know why beer snobs like those nasty heavily hopped concoctions anyhow.

So, no sodium (especially not sodium nitrate!), no legumes, no bread, no fatty meat obviously, no dairy. Rice is basically pure processed carbohydrates, like eating sugar. So there isn't much left on earth that's healthy for you. I eat a lot of chicken breast and vegetables, fruits and nuts, oatmeal, potatoes, like most serious athletes are suggested to do. If I knew how to work an oven I'd probably eat a lot of cornbread too. It gets repetitive, but that's kind of how I like it anyways, makes trips to the grocery store really quick and efficient.

One thing I noticed is my tastes have changed. Fast food, junk at restaurants is unpalatably salty to me and just the smell of people cooking greasy food smells pretty terrible as well.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Vector on May 22, 2013, 11:28:05 pm
Blorrr... I'm a vegetarian.  No way I could cut out beans and my brown rice, I'd be fucked.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 22, 2013, 11:49:53 pm
Akura: the bread can be mostly potato, but not completely potato. For the purposes of this week I am not eating any gluten whatsoever, since that's the only way to discover if I have an intolerance or not, so no potato bread, sadly.

Skyrunner: Even rice cakes are not filling enough for me. They are too light. Yes, I can fill my belly with them until I can't eat anymore, but that gnawing feeling that I'm still hungry never goes away. Last night after my soup, which was very little liquid and almost entirely vegetables and rice noodles, my belly was so full I couldn't eat anymore, but it felt like I was full from drinking several liters of water or something. Yes, I couldn't fit anything else in there, but I was still really hungry. This was never the case when I used wheat noodles for this soup. And yes, rice cakes have salt and preservatives in them, so I'm trying not to rely on that.

DWC: I can't eat the same food every day, and I eat mostly vegetarian food. I do not cook meat at all, most I might have is a tiny bit on a sandwich or can of tuna on a salad, but even that is rare. I'm not going to start cooking chicken (which is also full of horrible chemicals, antibiotics, and hormones, by the way), and if I had to eat the same food all the time I would go completely insane. I can eat the same stuff for about two days and then I never want to see it again. I hate wasting food, but if there's leftovers after that, I just can't bring myself to eat it. Also, if I do anything too repetitive, I end up getting myself stuck in a horrible rut that always leads to depression. (I'm sure there will be plenty of chances to explain some of my neurological/psychological issues during other "experiments.") If I don't have variety, the results will be far less healthy than eating some beans or tofu or yogurt. I'm not at all convinced that legumes are bad for you anyway. My body is already full of estrogen, being a girl and all. Entire cultures live on little more than rice and beans and they seem to do just fine. East Asians are some of the healthiest people in the world, and their diet is based on these things and little else.

Yes, you can survive on very little salt, and my eventual goal is to cut it down even further, but I'm cutting myself a little slack on this one for now. I was raised on a dangerously sodium-high diet (quite literally, McDonald's, hot pockets, and instant ramen for most meals). My mother almost never cooked anything. When I moved out, I cut back on a lot of this stuff, and when I moved to Europe I discovered that it's far cheaper to eat healthier food, but I still kept a package of potato chips or pretzels on hand all the time for late-night snacks. Now I've finally cut these snacks out and stopped grabbing pizza slices on my way home from work, and it's extremely difficult. These foods are highly addictive, and I'm still trying to break that. When I cook food with very low salt, it tastes like paper. I know this will change with time, but I'm allowing a little bit of "flavor" for each meal now, especially while I'm cutting the gluten, which is the hardest thing I've ever done.

I'm sure gluten is not bad for you unless you are allergic/intolerant to it. I've heard that if you have a weight problem, cutting gluten helps a lot, but I am at the lower extreme of the healthy weight range for my height. (I'm 170 cm / 5'7" and weigh about 53 kg/117 lbs.) In fact I'm slightly worried that all these new dietary restrictions might cause me to lose more weight, due to my fast metabolism, and put me in the unhealthy category.

I also have extremely low blood pressure and poor circulation. When I get out of the shower each morning my hands turn purple or blue until I get my clothes on. I'm trying to take shorter showers with cooler water to help my skin (will have to do this more seriously as a later experiment), but whenever I get in the shower with water that is less than hot, my hands turn blue immediately and it gets difficult to move them, not to mention getting shivers all down my body - and that's just from lukewarm water, nevermind cold! I have to find a way to help this as well. I keep hearing about cutting sodium to help lower blood pressure, but I hope mine doesn't drop anymore...

I could write more but I'm going to be late for work! Starting today's notes:

Spoiler: Thursday notes (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Vector on May 22, 2013, 11:57:50 pm
Try peanut butter on rice cakes?  It's worked for me.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DJ on May 23, 2013, 12:21:06 am
Since you're already getting cornmeal for bread, you should try making grits as well, they're fairly filling.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DWC on May 23, 2013, 12:36:06 am
Yeah the phytoestrogen thing probably isn't going to kill anybody. Healthy people produce their own hormones anyhow and will balance themselves out, it doesn't limit testosterone production in men, and the health benefits of things like soy and beer are generally attributed to phytoestrogens. However, it's still estrogen and so I limit consumption.

So this vegan hippie professor guy gave this lecture on the virtues of a vegan diet and as much as I'm stubborn minded and would typically balk at such a thing, he really made an very compelling case against dairy and red meat in particular. What really stuck with me is the revelation that milk/ dairy contains casomorphin, an opium analogue. This, he said explains why babies are hard to ween off milk, why they are really interested in milk dispite not really having hard-driven instincts. They are utterly addicted and are going through actual withdraw symptoms. (mother nature doesn't leave anything to chance) It's why dairy is so difficult to eliminate from one's diet. It is literally addictive!

 It's why cheese causes constipation, milk makes you drowsy, the same reason heroin does these things. So when his test subjects switched to vegan diets the food they reported to crave the most was always cheeseburgers, pizzas, never just steak or fried chicken.

Also, sugar is hard to quit too, because people are hard-wired to enjoy it. If you want a 'magnetize a baby' you dip their pacifier in some sugar water and give it back to them. They will endlessly stare at you in wonder and amazement, like you are a wizard.

Sodium is the main contributor to hypertension. Hypertension is virtually non-existant in cultures that consume little salt. When I was younger I'd get lightheaded and dizzy if I stood up too quickly and the ramen-noodle diet cured me of that. Now I get it a little bit, but my run times have improved with the same amount of exertion, so I say it's a fair trade off. Low blood pressure is an advantage unless it goes under 100 systolic.

Since you're already getting cornmeal for bread, you should try making grits as well, they're fairly filling.

Yeah grits are good. It's terribly bland stuff though, it needs a lot of help to not be a miserable chore to eat the stuff and most things that taste good with grits are not healthy. I can't bring myself to toss in fruit like I do with oatmeal.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Skyrunner on May 23, 2013, 01:09:47 am
That sounds rather shaky, though. O_o
It's radical enough that it almost seems like pseudo-science. In fact, I don't like cheeseburgers(extra calories that are tasteless) and never had craving for them, though hamburgers themselves are another story.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DJ on May 23, 2013, 01:37:19 am
I normally eat grits with sour cream or liver, and neither of those two are an option for Sappho :-\
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Neonivek on May 23, 2013, 01:40:58 am
Liver doesn't have any gluten to my knowledge

Mind you I have no idea how to cook liver if you don't coat it in flour.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DJ on May 23, 2013, 01:46:49 am
She's a pesceterian, though. Which really makes this whole thing a challenge. Filling up without using either bread or meat is kinda tricky.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Neonivek on May 23, 2013, 01:49:05 am
She's a pesceterian, though. Which really makes this whole thing a challenge. Filling up without using either bread or meat is kinda tricky.

A Pelican? Well that certainly does limit her diet choices.

Though I guess Halibut could work.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 23, 2013, 05:37:45 am
I'm not really a pescetarian - if someone wants to buy me a steak and cook it perfectly, I won't hesitate to scarf it down. But meat is expensive (far more so here than in the USA) and I don't know how to cook it well. I just prefer the taste of beans, tofu, soya, lentils, etc. anyway. Vegetarian food (especailly Asian or Indian) just tastes awesome, and it's SO cheap to make.

Anyway, I don't like liver, so that's out simply because of taste. And I don't like most fish, just tuna and occasionally battered and fried haddock, or a bit of salmon if it's cooked exactly how I like. : )

Tahini on rice cakes is the most filling thing I've found so far (it turns out the rice cakes I'm buying have no preservatives and almost no salt - 5 mg per 100 g of cakes). It gets old fast though.

I'm also not sold on the "dairy is bad for you" thing. I get that most of the world is lactose intolerant after childhood. That's perfectly reasonable - unless our ancestors ate it, we have no reason to digest it as adults. But if your ancestry evolved to digest dairy as an adult, I don't see why it would be bad for you. Sure, if it's full of hormones or something, that's no good, but the dairy itself seems fine to me. I keep hearing the "cow's milk is meant for baby cows" line, but that's meaningless. The only thing on this entire planet that is "meant" for human consumption is human milk. Everything else we eat has been stolen from another purpose. Grains and beans and fruits and vegetables are mostly seeds or seed support, designed to grow new plants. Meat is designed to be alive and control the body - after it dies it's just decomposing carbon matter like everything else. Herbivores have evolved to digest this plant matter and use it for fuel. Carnivores have evolved to do the same with meat. But none of these things are designed by nature to be food. Some plants evolved the ability to steal energy from the sun, herbivores evolved to steal that, and carnivores evolved to steal that. Humans have evolved the ability to obtain nutrition from a very wide variety of substances. We take that meat and we cook it to kill the bacteria and change the flavor and we eat it. We take the plants and do all manner of strange things to them and eat them too. And we take the milk and we pasteurize and process it into a drink for humans, or cheese, or ice cream, or yogurt, etc. We don't need it to survive, but I really don't think it's hurting us.

If someone is lactose intolerant and can't process the lactose, then this can cause a problem, but saying dairy contains an opium analogue is a non-issue from where I stand. Poppy seeds contain opium and people here eat them by the kilo in all manner of different foods. Chocolate is addictive by virtue its calories being exactly 50% each fat and sugar, which makes our brains throw a little happy party. Coffee and tea have both been proven to be beneficial to our health and both contain high amounts of caffeine. Wine and beer are both poisonous in large quantities but both are healthy when consumed moderately. I'm not bothered in the slightest by some opium analogue in my dairy. Who says opiates are bad anyway? They have plenty of positive benefits. Hell, I have severe anxiety issues - it would probably do me good to have opiates in my diet. And being addicted to something is not unhealthy per se. It's only a problem if the addiction is to something harmful. If I'm addicted to practicing Tai Chi (and I am), it's only going to do me good.

Okay, updated notes before my break ends:
Spoiler: Thursday notes (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DJ on May 23, 2013, 06:57:46 am
You can make a lot of different stuff out of chicken, and it's significantly cheaper than red meat. Diced chicken breast in sauce goes perfect with grits, but all the good sauce recipes I know contain dairy :(

But anyway, you should really buy yourself some chicken breast and just fry it in a pan if nothing else, preparing meat doesn't get easier than this. Looking at your notes you seem to be taking in too few calories, so of course you won't feel well if you're starving. Meat of any kind is a great way to cram in some more calories if you can't eat anything with gluten.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 23, 2013, 10:14:05 am
You are missing the part where meat is REALLY expensive though. Maybe tonight I'll make something with beans for dinner. I definitely need something heavier.

Actually today I've been so miserable about not getting to eat, I'm considering canceling this experiment a little early. My allergies are much worse today than they've been lately, leading me to believe that this problem is in no way related to gluten. I suppose I could do a quick test by eating loads of cheese and ice cream and seeing if I get gassy (if not, it would mean the lactose intolerance really is caused by a gluten intolerance, and cutting gluten fixed the lactose problem), but I'm not sure if I've been doing this long enough for the lactose intolerance to have been fixed anyway.

I'm tired, I'm cranky, I'm miserable, and I'm hungry. Again, much of this could be attributed to hormones (hooray for being female), but I don't know how much. It might be a better idea to put this one on hold until my hormones are at a more stable level (not that they are ever really stable), but then I'd have wasted these five days of misery. Maybe I will stick it out just two more days... But then again, tomorrow I have to get up at 6.30 am, race to work, and then immediately after I have to (literally) run to a Taiji workshop which doesn't end until 8.30. That's 14 hours without any proper break (and definitely without any time to get food I haven't pre-made), and I have to have high energy for the workshop. Then Saturday I have Taiji training in the morning followed by a demonstration at a big local sports event for the afternoon. No time for cooking in any of that, and any food that will be available will most definitely include gluten and insane amounts of refined salt. Unless I can prepare food tonight to last the next two days (not likely given my current energy and stress levels), I might have no choice but to bail on the gluten-free test prematurely.

I suppose tonight I will make rice and beans (or maybe potatoes and beans instead), I have a good recipe and that, at least, should be filling. Maybe I'll have some chocolate or something for dessert... How is it that people are always worried about eating too *many* calories when I'm having such a hard time eating enough?

EDIT: Rather than double-post I'll add my updated notes here. Please note, by the way, that I'm not keeping tally of how much water I drink - I drink loads and loads of it, always thirsty it seems, so don't worry that I'm dehydrating myself by drinking only tea, etc.

Spoiler: Thursday Notes (click to show/hide)

*A friend of mine is studying herbal medicine. For the most part I don't think it has any advantage over traditional medicine (and at times it's pure nonsense), but there are cases where using pills result in a lot of side effects and herbal analogues can work better. Note that this is NOT homeopathic medicine, which is snake oil bullshit. The quantities of herbs used in this field are carefully measured and far higher than what you'd get from the herbal placebo nonsense you can buy at the supermarket. There are actually useful chemicals in these plants that can make a big difference. For this tea, my friend gave me a list of six different herbs which she said would help my allergies. I thought it was bullshit, but was desperate after years of suffering, so I figured I'd give it a chance. To my great surprise, after a few weeks I found my eczema rashes improving (though not disappearing) and after a year and a half of regular consumption, I was amazed this spring to find my allergies are greatly reduced from last year (and the 15 years before that). I don't know for sure if it's really just the tea (these herbs must contain some kind of antihistamines, I think), if other dietary changes are contributing as well, or what, but after a week of not drinking the tea (I had run out and figured I'd be fine for a few weeks without it, just to take a break), today I feel much worse than before. So I restocked on the herbs and tonight I'm starting my tea regimen again. This should appear twice a day from now on. Hopefully the allergies will get better as a result. More experiments!!!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Neonivek on May 23, 2013, 02:08:31 pm
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A friend of mine is studying herbal medicine. For the most part I don't think it has any advantage over traditional medicine (and at times it's pure nonsense),


My view on alternative medicine is as such: For every single thing it can actually do there are ten things it cannot but we are told it can.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 23, 2013, 02:33:44 pm
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A friend of mine is studying herbal medicine. For the most part I don't think it has any advantage over traditional medicine (and at times it's pure nonsense),


My view on alternative medicine is as such: For every single thing it can actually do there are ten things it cannot but we are told it can.

And ten things it can but we are told it cannot.

You can say the same about western medicine as well. In any case, there are many types of "alternative" medicine. The one my friend is studying is Chinese medicine, which has a strong scientific basis. She has to spend a lot of time in a laboratory with microscopes watching how the compounds made from the herbs behave. There's nothing mystical about it. All I know for sure is, I never believed this stuff could work, but after I started drinking this tea, things got better. I really don't give a damn if the herbs work the way Chinese medicine says they do, or if they contain some other chemical which helps stop the allergies, or if it's just a pure placebo effect (despite the fact I didn't believe it could work and initially only started trying it to please this friend). If I drink the tea, I feel better. If I take allergy pills, I feel somewhat better but I have to deal with awful side effects. I'll stick with the tea.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: penguinofhonor on May 23, 2013, 02:39:12 pm
If meat is expensive, lobby your government to subsidize it heavily. It's the American way! Also corn.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Neonivek on May 23, 2013, 02:39:51 pm
The point is mostly that there is a very good uses for Alternative medicine and we should probably be exploring it more then we currently are... Yet there is a lot of sewage to go through.

So be very vigilant if you are going through that route because they will promise you anything.

Also I wont ever give alternative medicine a pass... and the Western medicine's flaws are separate altogether (usually in that western medicine makes up problems to give you cures). Then again I don't give anything a pass EVER!

If meat is expensive, lobby your government to subsidize it heavily. It's the American way!

There are cheap meats out there that even Sappho can afford. Though some require you to actually go to a butcher.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 23, 2013, 03:03:23 pm
The cheap meats are cheap for a reason. They're either terrible quality, or parts of the animal that no one would want to eat. I'm not a big fan of meat unless it's high quality. Technically I could afford meat, at least chicken, a few times a week, but it would cost about the same as all my Taiji training and I'd rather have that money going there.

Cornbread is in the oven at last. It was really quite easy to prepare, which says something about how lethargic and miserable I've been this week, that I couldn't even bring myself to make this. The only concern I have is that the only non-dairy milk readily available is soya milk, and I'm not sure if it will work properly. Will find out soon!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Neonivek on May 23, 2013, 03:04:21 pm
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The cheap meats are cheap for a reason. They're either terrible quality, or parts of the animal that no one would want to eat.

The same could be said about expensive meats.

Some of the best meats you can buy, the most delicious ones, are cheap. Their cheapness tends to come from demand and not from quality.

Heck some of the best steaks I ever had were cheap cuts with marinade, it certainly was better then the 50 dollar steak I had.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DWC on May 23, 2013, 03:10:02 pm
Traditional/ herbal medicine isn't hocus-pocus. The chemical compounds in commercial drugs are found in particular plants, that's how they make them. It's scientifically documented what medicinal uses certain plants have due to what chemicals are present in them. Which is why the form your doctor hands you asks that you list any medicinal herbs you might be taking along with your prescription drugs. The crystal rubbing new age bullshit or Chinese recipes for curing cancer with shark penises or whatever is another thing entirely.

That isn't to say it's better then modern medicine, it's pretty much a DIY version of the same shit, which implies that you need know a little bit about medicine and how it works.

Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 23, 2013, 04:02:10 pm
Well the cornbread is done. It smelled amazing in the oven, but it tastes... not great. Not bad, just not very good. And it's really spongy. At least it's not dry. I think it would be better with less egg or more cornmeal to balance it. But at least it doesn't taste *bad*, and it will be a good filling snack for tomorrow.

Who knows, maybe the school lunch will be something I can eat tomorrow. Would be a nice change.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DeKaFu on May 23, 2013, 04:15:39 pm
Herbal medicine has a lot of...issues.
It's not that it does nothing, but that for the most part it's basically a form of medicine with a big pile of added drawbacks that regular medicine doesn't have. Unlike regular medicine, it generally doesn't have standardized doses and it doesn't undergo the same level of scrutiny. When you're taking a single dose each of two different batches of the same herbal remedy, you might be getting 10x the dose of active ingredient in one than the other, just because the chemical concentration varies greatly from plant to plant. Herbal remedies can also be contaminated with plant matter from other species (or non-plant matter, like heavy metals), which can have effects varying from nothing to loss of effectiveness to organ damage and death.

It's not a scam like homeopathy, but it's certainly not "healthier" than mainstream medicines. It's much more of a gamble with your health, but many people don't realize it due to the "natural = harmless" misconception.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Neonivek on May 23, 2013, 04:19:15 pm
Alternative medicine convo in spoilers.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Well the cornbread is done. It smelled amazing in the oven, but it tastes... not great.

I can't stand Cornbread... but I do love Corn Cake.

If you ever get coarse corn meal I suggest making some, some day. It goes especially good with honey.

Though I have no idea how much your diet lets you eat of sweets.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DeKaFu on May 23, 2013, 04:33:27 pm
Spoiler: Homeopathy (click to show/hide)
Don't want to derail so I'll leave it there.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Neonivek on May 23, 2013, 04:35:46 pm
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If you think homeopathy has its uses, you aren't aware of the actual definition of homeopathy

Apparently not, I thought it was something else entirely... (posted because it ends the argument)

I'd still try that Corn Cake.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DJ on May 24, 2013, 12:28:41 am
I just can't believe meat is that expensive in Czech Republic. I make 500€/month and I can still eat meat almost every day. It's about 6€ for a kilo of pork here in Bosnia, which means it's about 1.5€ for a hefty pork chop that will keep you fed for most of a day. My brother lives in Germany and says the prices are similar over there, so I find it a bit odd for Czech Republic to be a lot more expensive.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 24, 2013, 12:33:24 am
Pass on the recipe for the corn cake! I don't have too much of a sweet tooth these days but I don't mind eating more sweets, especially honey which isn't nearly as concentrated as pure sugar.

I don't want to argue about herbal medicine. I have my own opinions on it but I'm sure it's not the kind of thing you can easily persuade others to change their minds about, especially online. I will continue to drink my tea because for whatever reason, it seems to help with no side effects. Aside from that I don't generally use herbal medicine. I don't generally use western medicine either, except in really severe circumstances. Too many bad experiences.

Anyway, very little time this morning, have to run to work.

Spoiler: Friday notes (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DWC on May 24, 2013, 12:39:42 am
Herbal medicine has a lot of...issues.
It's not that it does nothing, but that for the most part it's basically a form of medicine with a big pile of added drawbacks that regular medicine doesn't have. Unlike regular medicine, it generally doesn't have standardized doses and it doesn't undergo the same level of scrutiny. When you're taking a single dose each of two different batches of the same herbal remedy, you might be getting 10x the dose of active ingredient in one than the other, just because the chemical concentration varies greatly from plant to plant. Herbal remedies can also be contaminated with plant matter from other species (or non-plant matter, like heavy metals), which can have effects varying from nothing to loss of effectiveness to organ damage and death.

It's not a scam like homeopathy, but it's certainly not "healthier" than mainstream medicines. It's much more of a gamble with your health, but many people don't realize it due to the "natural = harmless" misconception.

Also @ Sappho I want to say you might not eating enough. With vegetables and fruits you really got to pile them in because they don't have the same energy density as foods you might otherwise be used to. I'm hard pressed to think of any people that get fat or sick by eating too many vegetables. I eat vegetables until I can't fit anymore in, personally.

Well yeah. Like I said, you gotta know a bit about medicine and dosages to do it properly otherwise you could conceivably OD on herbal medication like you can any other drug. I see alternative medicine as more a survivalist skill or really, something you do to skirt around the issue of getting a prescription or relying on commercial products, or if you cannot afford the prescription, so long as you know what you are doing. I can think of things like vasodilators that you'd normally need a prescription for that people could benefit from without being diagnosed with something. Or something you could use in an emergency.

Not saying people should empty their medicine cabinet in the toilet and start gathering plants out in the forest instead.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Neonivek on May 24, 2013, 01:29:48 am
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Pass on the recipe for the corn cake! I don't have too much of a sweet tooth these days but I don't mind eating more sweets, especially honey which isn't nearly as concentrated as pure sugar

It isn't as sweet as ordinary cake is for example. That is why it is good with honey (in this case the honey is much sweeter then the cake).

Though I'll take what you said as more of a "I am not against eating Corn Cake, I just don't want to go out of my way to make it when sweets aren't my thing"

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I don't want to argue about herbal medicine.

Ehh we were kind done with that and no one was really against it.

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Woke up with whole system feeling clogged up from allergies. Must be some new pollen in the air or something

To my knowledge you can actually look up pollen indexes. I'll try to find it for you!

http://www.meteovista.co.uk/Europe/Hay-fever-Czech-Republic/137 (http://www.meteovista.co.uk/Europe/Hay-fever-Czech-Republic/137)

There... depending on where you live you can be having an absolutely terrible time.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 24, 2013, 05:05:25 am
Thanks for that link, Neonivek! I've been trying to find something like that for this country but haven't been successful. It seems it hasn't changed in this past week though, which suggests that my increase in allergies is either the result of not drinking the tea, or of cutting gluten from my diet. As far as I know, gluten doesn't alleviate allergies, so it must be the tea.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Gervassen on May 24, 2013, 07:45:03 am
Entire cultures live on little more than rice and beans and they seem to do just fine. East Asians are some of the healthiest people in the world, and their diet is based on these things and little else.


1 kg of pork is 34 元 which is 7€ and people eat a lot of it in the modern era. Average height is now 1.8 meters and growing. Never pretend that the old "eastern" diet was good. I mean, I suppose being small is cute on a girl, but if you're a man, you gotta eat meat.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 24, 2013, 04:03:12 pm
Actually, pork is quite affordable, but it's the one meat I really dislike the taste of.

I've actually just gotten some information about vitamin B12. Apparently it's crucial for a lot of neurological function, especially memory, and a deficiency can cause all kinds of issues including terrible memory, brain fog, and even signs of psychosis. My almost entirely vegetarian diet doesn't seem to include any sources of this important vitamin. Generally I consider all vitamin pill supplements to be hokum, but I talked to some other people with asperger syndrome who said they've had great success taking 2500 mg of B12 in pill form each day to help their memory issues. So I've decided that this gluten-free experiment will end after today, and tomorrow I will buy some B12 pills and start a new experiment, carefully tracking my cognitive function as I take the pills each day to see if there is any improvement.

Spoiler: Friday notes (click to show/hide)

Hopefully tomorrow I'll find time to neaten up the first post of this thread. I'll try to put each experiment in its own spoiler with the daily notes organized in each one. Eventually I will move the notes somewhere else, maybe Google docs for convenience, and just provide a link to each one. I'm looking forward to making the spreadsheets. Ohhhh beautiful, beautiful spreadsheets!!!  :D
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Xantalos on May 24, 2013, 04:38:45 pm
Hey, B12 IS good for you! :P
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Vector on May 24, 2013, 05:18:07 pm
Yeah, I take sublingual B12.  Without it my anxiety problems used to be really bad.

(Also an AS person)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: misko27 on May 24, 2013, 06:40:40 pm
Hmm, I should most likely check to see how much of each vitamin I take.


Oh yes, I recall getting a blood-test a while back. I have a deficiency of Vitamin D.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 25, 2013, 02:20:38 am
OK, the woman with the info from the doctor (she was sharing this revelation on wrongplanet.net) says I should start the following immediately if I'm showing signs of psychosis:

B12 - 2500 mcg/day
Niacinamide - 100 mcg/2xday
B-multivitamin

I have taiji training now and then a demonstration at a sports day for expats in the afternoon. After that I'll head to the pharmacy and grab these.

In other news, I'm feeling very nice about my breakfast this morning. I am officially off the gluten-free diet. I'll continue to keep track of my diet for general purposes.

Breakfast: A jar of peach-flavored baby food, Several large spoonfuls of Greek-style yogurt, and a large handful of piskoty (http://www.amazon.com/Opavia-Piskoty-8-5oz-Sponge-Cakes/dp/B003QH1S7I) (a very popular local snack which is basically ladyfingers shaped like nilla wafers). The piskoty are soaked in the babyfood for about 25 minutes to make them soft, then mixed with the yogurt. DELICIOUS and full of sugar. Unhealthy eating tastes soooo niiice. Anyway I think I've earned a treat, and it's way less unhealthy than, say, a bowl of chocolate cereal.
Also, a cup of coffee with soya milk and a spoon of raw sugar, a glass of watered-down apple juice, and a cup of anti-allergy tea.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Max White on May 25, 2013, 02:35:52 am
1 kg of pork is 34 元 which is 7€ and people eat a lot of it in the modern era. Average height is now 1.8 meters and growing. Never pretend that the old "eastern" diet was good. I mean, I suppose being small is cute on a girl, but if you're a man, you gotta eat meat.
Not exactly true. Soy beans contain more protein for weight than meat. Most body builders enjoy a diet involving protein supplements that are made from soy beans. As for 1.8m average height, well... Not unless you are German. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 25, 2013, 03:00:39 am
Also, most of my male friends are vegetarians and have been since they were young teenagers (still growing), and all of them are very tall, some nearly 2 meters. Meat is hardly the main factor in how tall you are. And you can be perfectly healthy without meat.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Max White on May 25, 2013, 03:03:55 am
Well, if you know how to have a balanced vegetarian diet, you can be very strong and healthy without meat. Having said that, you can't just decide to go vegetarian without doing some research first, otherwise you will end up with dietary deficiencies. Such as vitamin b12.


You can never have enough b12.  :P
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: DJ on May 25, 2013, 03:51:17 am
As for 1.8m average height, well... Not unless you are German. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height)
It's 1.86m if you're from ex-Yugoslavia 8)

But yeah, I think it's more down to dairy consumption, having lots of calcium in diet can't be bad for bone growth. Though we do tend to eat meat in every meal, too.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 25, 2013, 09:57:46 am
Gluten-free week is over but the pharmacies aren't open until Monday, so it looks like I'm on a break this weekend. Tomorrow morning after Taiji training I might head to the only pharmacy I know that's open on weekends and grab the pills to start that tomorrow. For now I'll just keep track of my food and overall mood, watch for any changes with the re-introduction of the gluten, and try to do some organizational things in my life like cleaning my apartment, catching up on drawing comics, finishing the preparations for my new adventurer succession game, and maybe fixing up the first post of this thread.

Spoiler: Saturday notes (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Gluten-Free Week]
Post by: Sappho on May 26, 2013, 05:36:33 am
Spoiler: Sunday notes (click to show/hide)

I got some more information about vitamin B12. Apparently I should take it for a month and if I don't see any improvement, it's not helping, so I shouldn't waste my money on any more. If it does help I should see a doctor for full diagnosis. The month begins today. I'll make up a spreadsheet this afternoon to track my progress.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: ChairmanPoo on May 26, 2013, 06:11:11 am
Shouldn't you go to your doctor *before* further fooling around? You can see whether you have a B12 deficit or not with a simple blood test, you know.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: 10ebbor10 on May 26, 2013, 06:14:24 am
B12 overdoses are mostly harmless though. Only midly increases the risk of cancer, and that's about it IIRC.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: Sappho on May 26, 2013, 07:53:25 am
Yeah, taking B12 isn't going to do me any harm. If it doesn't work after a month I can stop taking it and save myself a trip to the doctor (which means saving myself a missed day of work, important at the moment because I'm already missing a few days of work to deal with my visa and I don't get paid when I don't work). If it helps, I can see the doctor at the end of the month and get properly assessed and determine a specific course of action.

I got the pills, making some lunch now and then I'll try them out. I keep hearing that these supplements are expensive, but a little more than a month's supply only cost me 155 kc (about $8). If that's the price per month for mental clarity after years of brain fog, I call that a good deal. And if I end up needing them long-term, I'm sure I can buy in bulk and save money. Fingers crossed!

Spoiler: Sunday notes (click to show/hide)

Got a spreadsheet ready to track my progress. I'll print a bunch of copies at work tomorrow and start keeping track. Today I've got permanent brain fog and fatigue but that's nothing new. Will keep more careful track starting tomorrow. Here is the blank form, in case anyone is interested or wants to try this themselves: http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=05468775545156567127
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: Sappho on May 27, 2013, 10:45:27 am
Couldn't print the spreadsheet at work due to the printer being out of toner, but I realized I could fit all that information on a 1/4 sheet of paper if I did it by hand and then just keep it in my pocket, so I did that instead. I'll try to make a more compact version of the chart on the computer and hopefully print it tomorrow. Here's the scan of the first sheet so far. I'll scan it again tomorrow when it's complete.

(http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l540/meganleb/B12/270513_zps504fccff.jpg)

In case you can't read my tiny, messy handwriting and abbreviations, the left-hand column reads: drowsy/fatigue; energy; brain fog; confused; focus; irritated/angry; anxiety/panic; calm; memory (+/-); concentration (+/-); hallucination; depression; euphoria. Along the top are the hours of the day starting with when I woke up (5:00). The bottom left has the description of the weather (rainy, cold, dark), which is always relevant to my mood. There are also some notes on the bottom for specific hours (the two on there now say "dizzy").

Once I get this going on the computer properly, I will upload computer-made charts that are readable.

A few of these symptoms might require explanations. First, for the negative symptoms, I also tried to include the positive opposite extreme. If I'm feeling at a normal, non-extreme level, I needn't write down anything. I think most people know what "brain fog" is. If you haven't heard this term, you've probably experienced it at some point. If you've ever had a sinus infection, think of that distant, fuzzy sort of feeling in your head, where you can't quite seem to connect with the world, almost like you're walking through a dream. It can come from many sources, including drowsiness, stress, various drugs, and of course, vitamin B12 deficiency. I have had seemingly permanent brain fog for a year or more now.

Memory and concentration are both listed with a (+/-), meaning I should indicate deficiency or difficulty with a - and above-average function with a +. Memory is hard to rate, so I'm just marking something down if there is a particular reason to do so (can't remember something, surprised by remembering great detail of something). Hallucination is a broad term referring to all types of visual abnormalities not easily explainable. I seem to have HPPD (look it up), so I regularly see things in the world warping or moving when they are still. I also see things out of the corner of my eye that turn out not to be there. This morning, for example, I saw a large black spider crawling up the white wall, and when I looked there was nothing on the wall. Then as I was walking down the stairs to leave my apartment building, I saw a cluster of bumblebees on the railing, but when I looked directly at it there was nothing there. This is probably a combination of sleepiness, stress, and HPPD, but it can also be caused by B12 deficiency, so I will be tracking it.

If I don't have time to fill in the form as things happen and later on I'm less than 100% sure of what I was experiencing, I will simply leave an hour blank rather than guessing. I have a tendency to project my current mood back on my memories, even very recent ones, and I could very easily skew my results in this way.

Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: ChairmanPoo on May 27, 2013, 11:09:46 am
... I wasn't even thinking in a B12 overdose. I was just thinking that carrying on unusual diets without any kind of oversight is a bad idea.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: Sappho on May 28, 2013, 09:47:01 am
Thinking about it more and more, it occurs to me that if I do take the B12 for a month and it does help, if I go for tests after that I will no longer have a deficiency even if I have one now, meaning I won't have any way of knowing for sure whether it was the vitamins that helped.

I've just looked at the hospital web site and it seems I can visit the doctor on the weekend, although it's likely the English-speaking doctor will be out, so I will have to go to the emergency room and see a doctor who doesn't speak English. If I prepare myself ahead of time with appropriate Czech vocabulary, though, I should be okay. I will plan to go on Saturday after Taiji training (early afternoon) with a list of my symptoms and specifically request tests for my thyroid and my B12 levels. I doubt they'd have a problem with that, although it will almost certainly not be covered by my insurance.

So until then, I will put the B12 experiment on hold. I will continue tracking my symptoms, however, as it can't hurt to have the information ready, and it might be helpful to the doctors. Here is yesterday's, complete. I will scan them as they are finished rather than having half-filled forms floating around.

(http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l540/meganleb/B12/270513_zps1072be8a.jpg)

Spoiler: Tuesday 28.05.13 Notes (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: misko27 on May 28, 2013, 05:18:25 pm
That is a level of note-taking I will never be able to replicate.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: Sappho on May 29, 2013, 04:18:53 am
It takes a level of obsession and a systematic personality. : )

Good news and bad news. Good is that I wasn't imagining it or making excuses - I really was sick. Bad news is, seems I got food poisoning, not sure exactly from what. Anyone who's ever had food poisoning will know why that's such terrible news. Didn't sleep at all the whole night, horrible pain in my stomach like I was being stabbed, spent most of the night in the bathroom where my dinner decided to evacuate my stomach in two opposite and equally unpleasant directions. I seem to be recovering finally, but I haven't slept, had to call out of work, and haven't eaten anything that actually stayed in me since lunch yesterday. I'm keeping down some water and a bit of sports drink now to fight dehydration, might get brave and try some solid food soon. But I feel like a pile of shit, so I'm excusing myself from taking notes today. Will probably just lie in bed, although my joints are getting sore from being in bed for 12 hours already...
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: smirk on May 29, 2013, 05:33:34 am
Eeurgh. You have my sympathy; the stomach-stabs ain't fun. Looking back at your previous post...started just before dinner? Something at lunch then. I'd look askance at that chicken. Cafeteria food. Might wanna prepare your own meats until ye're feeling better.

Can't go wrong with plum liqueur either. Cures all ills  =D
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: Max White on May 29, 2013, 05:39:15 am
Bad news is, seems I got food poisoning, not sure exactly from what.
Hmm, well you got sick after that pasta dinner, so most likely that. The tomatoes might have done it.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: Sappho on May 29, 2013, 07:05:26 am
If it was something at lunch I would guess the soya meat in the sauce actually. It was old and tasted a bit off. The tomatoes were fresh, doubt it was them. And it couldn't have been the chicken, everyone ate that. We don't have a cafeteria, it's a privately contracted catering company for preschools with very high standards so that would be very surprising.

Actually my biggest suspect is the syrup I put on the ice cream. It's been in the fridge a while with no preservatives and I just had a look at it, and it was a bit cloudy. I'll toss it just in case, along with the soya and the leftover pasta.

The worst has definitely passed. My stomach has calmed down and I've eaten a rice cake and a banana (very slowly). But I'm very weak and sore all over from the combination of not eating and lying in bed for too long without moving around or even getting proper rest. I feel feverish even though I don't seem to have a fever. My boss wants to know if I'm coming in to work tomorrow and I can't afford to miss more work if I don't have to. I told her I'll let her know for sure in the evening... Anyone know any good ways to relieve some of the soreness in my legs, hips, and back? I'm too weak to really move around much but lying in bed hurts more than sitting up. I'm hoping the banana will help. Sadly it's my last one. : /
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: Reudh on May 29, 2013, 07:33:32 am
It takes a level of obsession and a systematic personality. : )

Good news and bad news. Good is that I wasn't imagining it or making excuses - I really was sick. Bad news is, seems I got food poisoning, not sure exactly from what. Anyone who's ever had food poisoning will know why that's such terrible news. Didn't sleep at all the whole night, horrible pain in my stomach like I was being stabbed, spent most of the night in the bathroom where my dinner decided to evacuate my stomach in two opposite and equally unpleasant directions. I seem to be recovering finally, but I haven't slept, had to call out of work, and haven't eaten anything that actually stayed in me since lunch yesterday. I'm keeping down some water and a bit of sports drink now to fight dehydration, might get brave and try some solid food soon. But I feel like a pile of shit, so I'm excusing myself from taking notes today. Will probably just lie in bed, although my joints are getting sore from being in bed for 12 hours already...

Agh, food poisoning is never fun. If you're feeling terrible after food poisoning; what I did was keep water and sodium levels up by having heavily diluted lemonade with salt and mint added, it's mildly refreshing and is much better as an electrolytic replacement drink than the sports drinks are.  Additionally, I consumed large amounts of protein and carbohydrates. This came in the form of tofu that had been lightly cooked in sweet chili sauce and placed in a bowl with boiled quinoa.

Of course, the anti-emetic properties of pears and apples may come in handy. (I'm not sure it's proven that malus species fruits are antiemetic, but it worked for me.)

Honey, if you're willing to take in that much sugar, is both delicious and mildly pain-relieving. If you can hold down a smoothie, I'd advise a banana smoothie.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: Sappho on May 29, 2013, 07:44:01 am
Ow... Okay, shortly after eating the banana the stabbing stomach pain came back, and more with every sip of water. Guess I'm not over it yet. I've heard making tea with a whole lemon including skin, sweetened with a bit of sugar, can help, so I'm going to try that. Just managed to wash the pot I use for boiling water for tea, which was no mean feat because it had last night's dinner dried on to it, so here goes nothing. I've also heard apples can help, and fortunately I have a few of those, so I'll try that too. The way things are going l'll have to miss another day of work, but I'm really hoping to avoid that!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: Jopax on May 29, 2013, 07:48:44 am
Not sure if it helps with food poisoning but plain rice with some toasted bread (the hard crumbly variety) is the usual cure in my family.  Works well enough most of the time.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: Reudh on May 29, 2013, 07:50:53 am
Not sure if it helps with food poisoning but plain rice with some toasted bread (the hard crumbly variety) is the usual cure in my family.  Works well enough most of the time.

Carbohydrates ahoy. That's why.

Sappho, apples are anti-emetic, and do help with nausea too. I used to get nauseous after eating certain foods when I was younger, an apple practically instantly cured that. Pears work too, but are less effective.

(Additionally, foods high in Vitamin C are useful to cure nausea. These are: citrus fruits (oranges, lemons, limes, grapefruits), tomatoes, potatoes, cabbages, and green peppers/capsicums/bell peppers.)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Vitamin B12 Month]
Post by: Sappho on May 29, 2013, 09:02:32 am
Owwwww... Lemon isn't helping. Whole lemon, juice squeezed out, plus skins, boiled in water with a dash of salt for 5 minutes, let cool. Every sip brings the stabbing pains back in my stomach. I guess I can try apple next. I'm a bit scared to eat anything else though...
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Food Poisoning]
Post by: Sappho on May 30, 2013, 04:21:49 am
OK it seems the lemon juice did finally help, just took a while. I actually managed to take a nap afterwards for a couple hours. I got an apple into me as well, though it hurt a bit after eating it.

I decided to come to work today. I'd say I'm at about 75% now. My stomach isn't expelling everything I put into it anymore, though it does still hurt. I managed a couple of slices of toast and a banana for breakfast. I'll stick with simple foods like this for a while longer. I'm still weak and moving slowly but there aren't many kids today so it should be alright. The other teachers agreed that I can stay inside today while the others go out with the kids in the rain, so I can rest a bit. There's pasta for lunch today with some kind of meat sauce - I'll just take plain pasta and eat as much as feels comfortable.

No real notes today either. I think I'll go lie down for a while. Stomach hurts, tired.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Food Poisoning]
Post by: Jimmy on May 30, 2013, 07:21:36 am
Depending on where you live there should be a few options for food poisoning symptom management from your local pharmacy, at least to get you through the worst of the symptoms. In Australia there's Emetrol and Buscopan for relief of nausea and stomach cramps, respectively. Of course, if you're past the worst of it a good night's sleep should take care of the rest. Stay hydrated, avoid too much sugar and get some rest.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Food Poisoning]
Post by: Siquo on May 30, 2013, 09:05:42 am
Being the boyfriend of one, can I advise you to see a dietitian?
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Food Poisoning]
Post by: Sappho on May 31, 2013, 05:42:03 am
Phew. Finally seem to be better. Although a cold virus seems to have gotten opportunistic while I was weak and decided to give me a proper sniffle and rough throat, it's nothing compared to the whole "poisoned by food" thing.

Jimmy: I'm sure I could have found something that might have helped, had I been able to get out of bed, get dressed, walk down the three flights of stairs to the front door, make the (normally) 5-minute walk (in that state probably more like 20 minutes) to the nearest pharmacy, hope it wasn't already closed for the day, and present my symptoms in a coherent enough way, in Czech, for the pharmacist to give me something that might have helped. I live alone and I could hardly walk. Even if I had called a friend to deliver me something, I would have had to walk down the stairs to let them in the building, and it was easier to just rest. Thanks for the thought though. : )

Siquo: The short answer is no, probably not. I mean, you are welcome to try, but the odds of you succeeding are pretty much right there next to the zero mark. I have many reasons for this which I'd be happy to share if you're interested, but anyway thanks for the suggestion, after the experiences I've had I'll just keep on experimenting on my own.

Greatorder: Dear lord, the day I purposely inflict myself with food poisoning is the day you may chuck my ass in a mental institution for life.

So I probably could have kept notes today but I forgot all my papers at home, so I'll leave it for now. I'll scan my last page of notes when I get home today (just realized I forgot to do that) and hopefully start that again tomorrow. Also, my plan to see a doctor tomorrow will probably also have to be held up a bit, as I've been invited to my taiji teacher's house for lunch and that's not something I'm about to pass up. That plus training will pretty much take up the whole day, and I'm not desperate enough to wait in the long weekend evening emergency room line just to see how my thyroid and b12 levels are.

In fact, as the physical experiments haven't been going too well so far, I think I'm going to change gears for a while and try a psychological one instead. It's about time for that anyway.

Yesterday after work, feeling weak and exhausted and slightly delerious, I suddenly felt a burst of almost religious inspiration to clean my apartment. I did all the dishes, cleaned the kitchen counter and cooktop, washed the trash can, and tidied up and vacuumed the whole living/sleeping room. All of these things were long overdue and I've been putting them off for ages, but somehow yesterday I was able to do what I haven't been able to do for months. Just fucking DO IT and enjoy the nice clean feeling.

My reasons for not being able to do it before are split. Half of it is the lack of time. I work all day, then usually have training, then it's generally dinner then bed, with maybe a bit of reading or video games in there to relax and unwind. But even on the days I do have time, I just can't bring myself to clean. I have a mental block around it, I guess. I've been fairly depressed and very stressed out for a long while now, and I suppose I allowed my environment to reflect my inner feeling: a big ugly mess badly in need of tidying. Add to that the fact that I was never given "chores" growing up (in fact my mother forbade me from most chores because she was convinced I would screw everything up) and I just never got into the habit of spending any time cleaning.

I'm not sure exactly what it was yesterday, but somehow all those cluttering thoughts and worries just took the day off and let me get through the day. It's how I got through work (actually it was an easier day than usual, no doubt in part due to my unwillingness to get upset about anything) and it carried on when I got home and let me clean the damned place up a bit.

Now that I'm feeling mostly better I can't expect that same kind of calm to carry me through the rest of my chores. However, I've though of a couple of possible things that might help. That sort of "religious" feeling was helpful. I'm not religious to any degree, in any way, but that doesn't mean I can't get that same sort of "inspired" or "sacred" feeling that all humans are programmed to feel. Ritualizing cleaning can make it easier. I already have a lot of rituals that get me through each day (this is especially common in people with AS). I stand in the same spot each day waiting for the metro and the bus, take my keys out of my pocket at the same point each day, always glance at the mailboxes when I come into the building even though I don't have a mailbox and I know there's nothing for me there. And of course when I get home every day I greet my cat in the same exact way, then scoop him up and let him give me a "kiss" on the nose before I do anything else.

There's no reason why making a cleaning ritual wouldn't work. If I performed the same tasks every day in the same way, it would grow so familiar I'd feel uncomfortable *not* cleaning. The only difficulty would be getting it started. For this, I have a second idea.

Another common trait for people with AS is to have imaginary friends. In my case it's a habit that started when I was very young and I never saw any reason to break it. I don't have fictional imaginary characters following me around all day, but rather a sort of database in my head of all the people I know. When I'm alone, I sort of open the file on one of these people and they are "there" with me having a conversation with me. I've gotten surprisingly good at this over the years and the practice conversations (and even advice given in the way I know these people would give it) has been a huge source of help in developing my social skills and overcoming certain fears. I do get caught talking to myself pretty regularly, but I've caught so-called "normal" people talking to themselves plenty of times too, and I doubt it's as uncommon or unusual a thing as people make it out to be.

There is this girl I know who I'm absolutely infatuated with. She's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, and an amazing person to boot. She's sort of everything I ever wished I could be, and maybe I hope I could be years from now, with enough work. The one key difference between us is that I'm a bit of a slob, and she's a neat freak.

I have had countless imaginary conversations with her because I just love talking to her. She's often "there" when I'm home alone. Using her imagined presence as a motivator, it should be easier to make myself clean up. She's told me that she's really uncomfortable around mess (I even wonder if she has some level of OCD, watching her put anti-bacterial gel on her hands constantly) and I know I would be mortified if she ever saw my apartment as it is now. If I imagine she's there, or on her way over, and I need to get the place nice enough that she's impressed (because I definitely want to impress her), I ought to be able to make myself Get Stuff Done.

So today will be the first try. I'll update details later, as I'm slightly late going back to work from my lunch break. Also one of my goals will be to update the first post today, as it is desperately needed. Wish me luck, guys!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Food Poisoning]
Post by: Morrigi on May 31, 2013, 10:44:03 am
Good luck.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Food Poisoning]
Post by: Sappho on May 31, 2013, 12:29:21 pm
Thanks Morrigi. : ) I'm home now, just finished dinner. While cooking I managed to clean every tool and pan as I was finished with it, so there's nothing waiting to be washed except the rice pot which still has rice in it. Also, before doing anything, I ran the vacuum through the living room. I did a good job of vacuuming yesterday so I figure if I just do a quick job each day, and do a "good" job (moving furniture, etc.) maybe once a week, it should stay very nice in here. (I could probably do just a couple times a week, but the cat makes a big difference. You wouldn't believe what a mess a cat can make.)

Now I'm deciding between cleaning more of the kitchen or updating the first post of this thread (which will probably take a while). Things that need to be done in the kitchen are:
-clean the table
-organize all the recycling
-take the recycling out to the bins (3-4 minute walk from my apartment)
-sweep/vacuum the floor
-mop the floor
-clean out the fridge
-clean the oven
-reorganize the cabinets

I certainly don't expect to get all this done today. The thing that most needs doing is cleaning the floor, which is gross, but first I'll need to take care of the recycling as it is in the way. Also, I don't have a broom or a mop. I have a dustpan (it's a really tiny kitchen but still a bit too much area to cover with a dustpan) and the vacuum. I have a cloth to scrub the floor but I have to do it the old-fashioned way on my hands and knees with a bucket of soapy water. Also, I don't have a bucket. So I never quite seem to get the floor properly clean. I could buy these tools, but the kitchen is literally about 3 square meters. I wouldn't even have a place to *put* the tools when I'm not using them. But I'm tired of the floor looking gross so if I have to, I'll get down on my hands and knees, maybe use the trash can as a bucket, and scrub away. I want a clean start in there. I don't know if I'll get that far today, but I'll try. There's also a few things left to do in the living room - clean behind the bed and sofa, clean and organize the storage compartment in the sofa (really big job), and hang up some pictures given to me by the kids at school on my "pictures the kids at school gave me" wall.

I'd also like to do some taiji training today, or at least some conditioning. I haven't done anything since I got sick.

All that said, it's already 7:30 pm. I'll see how far I can get in the kitchen, update the first post of this thread, and then probably give myself a break and do some reading for a while. Putting myself in "amazing girl who is also a neat freak is on her way over for dinner, quick quick quick make it clean" mode.... and... GO.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Food Poisoning]
Post by: Another on May 31, 2013, 01:51:42 pm
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Another common trait for people with AS is to have imaginary friends. In my case it's a habit that started when I was very young and I never saw any reason to break it. I don't have fictional imaginary characters following me around all day, but rather a sort of database in my head of all the people I know. When I'm alone, I sort of open the file on one of these people and they are "there" with me having a conversation with me. I've gotten surprisingly good at this over the years and the practice conversations (and even advice given in the way I know these people would give it) has been a huge source of help in developing my social skills and overcoming certain fears. I do get caught talking to myself pretty regularly, but I've caught so-called "normal" people talking to themselves plenty of times too, and I doubt it's as uncommon or unusual a thing as people make it out to be.
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Amazing. That may be quite common thing but one that is extremely rarely discussed. I am sure that at no point I would have been diagnosed with AS and yet what you described is almost exactly what I do. Complete with characteristic vocal features and attitudes. I am always acutely aware that it is a simulation inside my head based on incomplete and partially wrong information but sometimes it helps me to formulate my own thoughts more clearly, look at things from a different point of view or at least to estimate what other people may say. I think it is notable that after I stop contacts with somebody their "image" gradually fades away - if it would be self-reinforcing based on imaginary conversations alone - that would be way closer to mental disorders territory.

Also good luck with your health. I heard that keeping everything very clean in your house can somewhat help with allergies.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Food Poisoning]
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 31, 2013, 02:05:05 pm
Are you going to try hookworms at some point? After all, the leading cause of allergies seems to be a distinct lack of hookworms. And they are easy enough to flush out of if they don't help.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Food Poisoning]
Post by: GlyphGryph on May 31, 2013, 03:04:25 pm
Yes. By no means swallow a bucket full of them or even stick your hand in said bucket. Do not, I repeat, do NOT overdose on hookworms. You will have a bad day.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Food Poisoning]
Post by: Morrigi on May 31, 2013, 09:55:21 pm
Ah well, not as bad as Ebola. But I'm not sure anything is.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Food Poisoning]
Post by: Sappho on June 02, 2013, 03:18:42 am
Am I going to infect myself with a dangerous parasite because of a slight chance they might lessen my seasonal allergies?

No.

Yesterday my plans got derailed by "being social" and "having a nice time" so I count that as a victory even though my research has been further delayed. I went to training in the rain, had a nice time, went to my teacher's place for lunch which ended up including a bit of fine whiskey tasting and tea sampling (really lovely tea they bring back from Taiwan and China) and a lot of wonderful conversation and laughter. I got home fairly late and didn't get any cleaning done, and I hadn't taken my note paper with me so there are no notes from yesterday. I'll keep notes today.

I've decided to start taking the B12 again, just because I'm not sure when I'll get the chance to see a doctor, it could really help, it's certainly not going to hurt me, and it occurs to me that pretty much any other explanation of all these issues is not going to disappear within a short time. This means that if I notice a large improvement after taking the pills for a short while, it is almost certainly because of the pills. In that case I will keep taking them for a while longer, then I will suddenly stop, and see if anything changes. Meanwhile I will still plan to get my thyroid and B12 levels tested as soon as I'm able, because of course that is a much simpler way of addressing the situation than pure trial and error.

Today I will clean the kitchen floor (in fact I'll get started as soon as I finish writing this). Once that is done, I'll probably take a break from cleaning for a while and do something else, either drawing the comics I'm so far behind on or finally reorganizing this thread. My second project for the day will be cleaning behind the bed and sofa, because I suspect the accumulated dust back there is contributing quite significantly to my allergies. That would explain why when I wake up in the morning I'm so congested and itchy, much more so than when I'm walking around normally during the day. I hope I'll get to starting the bathroom as well, since that's still an utter mess - at least surface cleaning and tidying. I really need to sweep up the stray bits of cat litter in there and wipe down the sink which is all dusty. At some point during the day I will allow myself some time to read, and some time to play at least one level of Machinarium which I'm working my way through, so I don't feel overwhelmed with responsibilities and start getting lazy and slacking off.


Spoiler: Sunday 02.06.13 notes (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Cleaning Habits]
Post by: Sappho on June 02, 2013, 03:46:26 pm
Looks like it's going to be difficult to get any sleep tonight. Some of you might have heard there is serious flooding in Prague due to neverending heavy rains. The government has declared a state of emergency and most of the center of the city is being evacuated. The metro lines are mostly closed as well due to flooding. Needless to say, school is canceled tomorrow.

Oh, except my little preschool. Because it's a private school and my boss is BATSHIT FUCKING CRAZY. Did I mention that I live on the opposite end of the city from the school? It normally takes me an hour to get to work, with two metro trains and a bus. No metro tomorrow, so I get to take a tram across the whole city and the bus from there, and *hope* that the roads on the way aren't closed because they're flooded out. I've been communicating to my boss all evening, at first just pointing out the situation and saying I'm not sure what it will be like getting to work in the morning, hoping she'll respond with "oh don't worry about it, we'll be normal sane human beings and close school for a day until the emergency has passed." Instead she tells me she'll get to work early to cover things until I can get there, and recommends I do some research online to figure out how to cross the flooded city first thing in the morning. She points out that the bus that takes me to work will have to end one stop before the one where I usually get off (end of the line), since the road is closed, so I'll have to walk from there. I subtly pointed out that all the other schools in the city are closed tomorrow, so please let me know if you decide to close ours as well. Sure, she says, I'll let you know if that happens. (It's not gonna happen.)

It's still raining.

It might take hours to get to work tomorrow, if it's even possible. I seriously doubt very many children will actually come to school, although most of them do live very close to the school so they might not have much trouble getting there in their cars. Oh, and I only work until 2 tomorrow. Then I get to trek BACK across the city to try to get home.

Did I mention it's still raining?

Statue:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/971062_10152406785496393_2047446378_n.jpg)

Beer Garden:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/954708_979089120705_85867064_n.jpg)

Neighborhoods:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/602393_619026604781794_1755549263_n.jpg)

So, the relevance to my little experiments. My anxiety levels are very high now, not a good thing since I should have been asleep for hours by now if I want to be rested tomorrow. I might have to drug myself in some way to get to sleep. Any method I use will worsen my brain fog issues for tomorrow. In my stress I forgot to keep notes for several hours of late afternoon/evening so I'm missing some info. And tomorrow I was supposed to meet someone for an important notarization of a document I need for my visa renewal application and it looks like that probably won't be possible, so I don't know how I'm going to manage the visa application in time. Anxiety going up up up.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Cleaning Habits + Flooded Prague]
Post by: Reudh on June 02, 2013, 08:56:51 pm
1. That statue looks so relaxed.

2. We had flash flooding down here in the south of Australia too a few days ago, though not nearly as severe.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Cleaning Habits + Flooded Prague]
Post by: Sappho on June 02, 2013, 11:23:34 pm
Prague floods quite easily. It's shaped like a big bowl with a river running through it. The last major flood was in 2002. Half the city was underwater and all the animals in the zoo drowned. This time they're moving all the animals out as quickly as possible, but it's tough to relocate elephants and tigers and such quickly. They've evacuated some parts of the city. Fortunately I live at the top edge of the bowl. I actually didn't know the flooding was happening until people started sending me pictures on Facebook, because everything looks perfectly fine up where I am. The problem will be getting through the center to get to work at the other edge. I hope the flooding will recede today. Rain is still forecasted for the next few days but hopefully not as heavy as it has been. At least we might get a reminder of what the sun looks like soon.

Here's the local forecast, if anyone's curious: http://pocasi.idnes.cz/
Here's an account of the 2002 flood. It was cuh-razy. The place names given are mostly districts in the city of Prague: http://www.livingprague.com/flood.htm

Spoiler: Monday 03.06.13 Notes (click to show/hide)

Flooding Update: It's only getting worse.
Top = Friday, Bottom = Today
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/971050_10100916652228496_1592570918_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Cleaning Habits + Flooded Prague]
Post by: Siquo on June 04, 2013, 04:32:32 am
Seems you need a boat to get to work. Would be awesome to show up like that.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Cleaning Habits + Flooded Prague]
Post by: Eric Blank on June 04, 2013, 09:53:22 am
I doubt it would be wise to try and take a boat on that crazy flow :o
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Cleaning Habits + Flooded Prague]
Post by: Morrigi on June 04, 2013, 10:25:48 am
Well that's unfortunate.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Cleaning Habits + Flooded Prague]
Post by: Sappho on June 04, 2013, 11:34:12 am
Second day of no metro transport in the city, but at least the flood is starting to recede. Thanks to flood defense measures, most areas were kept dry. The metro flood prevention system seems to have worked as well, so once the water level goes back down a bit more, they'll open it back up. Today it hardly rained at all and the sun even showed it's face for a few minutes to remind us all what color it is.

I had so much to do today that I had to force myself not to get caught up in my emotions. From the start, I decided I would not let myself get upset today. Keeping in mind that the kids always get more wild when they see you getting upset, I kept myself calm and there were no major problems at work. I had to stay late in the office to make copies of documents and get organized for my visa extension application tomorrow. I'm determined to be so organized and have everything so complete that they can't possibly find a problem with it (although I'm sure they'll manage anyway - they're experts at that). After work I had to visit a "Czech Point" document registry to get an up-to-date copy of the deed to the apartment I'm officially renting (to prove the owner has the right to rent it to me) and then I had to stop at the insurance office to extend my health insurance by another year. As a reward for getting that all done without extra stress (and as compensation for the Taiji lesson I had to cancel to get it all done) I stopped by the bookstore and bought myself a Moleskine sketchbook. I've wanted one for ages and now I finally have one. No excuse not to draw now!

I feel prepared for tomorrow. I have to get up the same time as I normally would for work and get a bus to the city I officially live in (long story). I have to visit the social security office and finance office to pick up documents stating I do not owe them any money, then meet my "landlady" to re-notarize my lease with her (no documents can be older than 180 days for the application). Then I will make my way to the foreigner police where I will wait in line for probably several hours and face the horrible, evil women who will accept my application with hatred and venom and probably find a hundred things wrong with it (which they will assume I did on purpose just to ruin their day). Everyone, please send all the spare positive vibes you can muster.

Spoiler: Tuesday 4.6.13 notes (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Cleaning Habits + Flooded Prague]
Post by: Sappho on June 05, 2013, 06:04:04 am
Wow. Today has been a truly excellent day. I'm already home from my trip to where I officially live for all my visa paperwork. I visited the finance and social offices to pick up the documents proving I don't owe them any money. The people there were friendly and helpful and it only took a few minutes at each place. I had extra time so I grabbed some bread and broccoli spread from the supermarket and enjoyed that in the park while I made my first marks in my new sketchbook. Then I met my "landlady" to re-notarize our lease. The last time I saw her was two years ago, when I hardly spoke a few words of Czech (she doesn't speak English). She was absolutely blown away by how well I speak now. We had a nice conversation and she kept complimenting my Czech, even going so far as to say I barely have an accent - that I don't quite sound native, but she would never be able to guess what country I was from, which is an enormous compliment. While we were at the notary's office waiting, the notary could hear us from the other room, and when he came out with the papers he made a point of complimenting me on my speaking ability and good pronunciation. On top of all this, the sun was out and it was warm and pleasant outside for the first time in far too long.

So I was flying pretty high when I got to the foreigner police office. I took my number, got my papers ready, took out my novel, and barely got through 3 pages when my number was called. I went in, feeling a few flutters of nervousness, and was delighted to see that the miserable old woman who normally handles my file was not there. There was a new girl, quite young and while she didn't smile, she was pleasant enough. We barely needed to speak, I had my documents so organized. She took them one at a time, logged them on the application folder, told me it would probably be ready within a month (a month! last time it took 10!!!), and that was it. I enjoyed a pleasant walk back to the bus stop and a quiet ride back home. I have the rest of the day free, until Taiji training at 6 in the park. I'm going to take a shower now, make some lunch, and try to get my metal recycling down to the recycling center while we have such lovely weather. I also plan to head to the park early before the training starts and play with this sketchbook for a while, as long as the weather stays nice.

Spoiler: Wednesday 5.6.13 notes (click to show/hide)

By the way, I'm still keeping my daily notes. Another goal for today is to enter them all into the computer rather than scanning the little papers, since they're a bit messy and probably hard for others to read. Also, I haven't been noting it down, but I've been taking 1500 mcg of the B12 each evening for about a week now. I certainly feel better than I did before, although it's difficult to say if it's due to the supplement or not, since other things are changing in my life as well. Notably I'm trying to keep away from sedatives, including alcohol, cannabis (I used to use a small amount regularly to help me sleep), and medunka (Melissa) tea (also for sleep). I'm sure this is probably contributing to my clearer head, as are my set goals which help me focus and my active decision to not get upset at work. Stress causes so many problems it's a wonder anyone ever figures out what's going on in their heads.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Cleaning Habits]
Post by: Sappho on June 06, 2013, 05:13:50 am
Juchu! (That's Czech for Hooray!) The metro is open again today. Some stops are still closed, but I'm able to get to work without any difficulties (and without leaving home half an hour early). What's more, the weather is still pretty nice. It's not really sunny today, but there's no rain and it's quite warm (about 20 C). The kids are relatively calm and work has been fine so far. To top it all off, the beautiful coworker I'm absolutely in love with is in a good mood today and I'm feeling rather flirty...

Spoiler: 6.6.13 notes (click to show/hide)

Evening update: I'm feeling on top of the world at the moment. About an hour ago the cat decided that the cable connecting the left speaker to the right, which has been there over a year, was his arch nemesis. He pounced on it so hard that the plug broke - the connector broke off inside the jack. I tried to get it out but it only went further in, and the plug wouldn't work. At first I started grumbling that I'd have to buy a new set of speakers (it didn't seem worth buying a new plug and splicing it onto the cable, which is hardwired into the speaker and not easily replaced). I felt that way for about ten seconds before I decided there must be a way to rig it to work - all that was missing was a metal connection from the jack to the plug. So I rolled up a bit of aluminum foil and jammed it in the hole, then shoved the plug on over it and duct taped it down. Works like a charm. You can call me MacGyver tonight, friends.

EDIT: I have finally gotten my information in the computer. The easiest way I could think of to do it was to use Word. Obviously Excel is better for spreadsheets, but I want to be able to put 4 separate tables on a page to print out, and Word makes that much easier to organize, although it isn't super convenient to enter the information. Basically, Word makes it easier to print, while Excel would make it easier to manage the data in the computer. I will probably do an Excel version as well for storing the data, and eventually just use the Word version for printing out and carrying in my pocket.

So now I have all these tables in the computer in a Word document, but it's really difficult to read and due to all the tables and special formatting I'm having a hard time getting Google Drive to display it properly. So if anyone is interested in the current charts, here is the Word document. I'll work on getting it more internet-friendly soon. (I hope this link works ok - can someone please test it for me and make sure you can download the actual Word document here, not just view it on Google Drive?) https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2DGqVenpQgvSl9KMEJsMEVHbnM/edit?usp=sharing

Starting on 4.6 I started keeping more careful track of things, using values from 1 to 3 to judge the intensity of certain states. I'll make a detailed list of what these numbers mean soon, particularly to go along with my next point:

I will get into this more tomorrow probably, but I've decided I'd like a control to compare my data to. In other words, who wants to track their physical and emotional state for a few days? It would be greatly helpful for me, and it might be interesting for some of you to pay attention to these things and understand yourselves better. I know it does me a lot of good to look at things this way! I'll get my notes further organized and post some more information tomorrow, but it would be great if anyone could announce their interest in trying this out. I would take whatever you are willing to give - ideal would be at least 3 or 4 days, tracking every hour, but of course if you just want to do it one day, or two, or every few hours instead of hourly, whatever you can offer would be helpful. Here's the blank chart in Word doc format in case anyone wants to print it out and carry it around and see how it goes (again, please let me know if the download works properly): https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2DGqVenpQgvZm5wYnd2Qy1Xc3c/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Vector on June 06, 2013, 10:21:51 pm
Sure, I should probably try something like that for my own sake.  I guess I'll see if I can't try starting tomorrow?

(PS: I do the imaginary friends thing, too)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Sappho on June 07, 2013, 12:34:22 am
Great! I gotta run to work now but I'll post more information on my lunch break (about 5 hours or so from now).

EDIT: OK, I successfully downloaded and printed the blank forms from the work computer, so everyone (who has Word) should be able to print them. If anyone wants a PDF version just let me know. I recommend carrying one in your pocket during the day and filling things in as you notice them, then either scanning in the paper if you have a scanner, or else typing the results in through Word. Once I have a functional Excel version I'll make that available for data entry. If anyone has a better suggestion for how to share the data, I'm all ears!

Specific information for filling in the chart: In the top-left, put the date. Bottom left (large box) is for the weather. In columns you are not awake for, or forget to fill in the chart for whatever reason, just put a line through them (or tint them gray if entering in the computer) so they don't get counted. For the rest of the chart, fill in the appropriate value for each time (no need to fill in boxes if they do not apply).

Drowsy: 1-3, with 1 being slightly sleepy, 2 being would really like to lie down and sleep, and 3 being hardly able to stay awake (or even that you fall asleep without meaning to).

Energy: 1-3, with 1 being slightly more energetic than usual, 2 being pretty pumped, and 3 being manic or hyperactive.

Fog: 1-3. This refers to "brain fog," a specific feeling of cloudiness in your head and inability to connect to the world. If things feel far away and sort of fuzzy, you probably have brain fog. It's the same feeling you get if you have swollen sinuses, such as during a sinus infection. 1 is mild, 3 is severe.

Conf: 1-3. This refers to general confusion, mild to severe. This can be recorded even if there is a good reason for the confusion (like a physics lecture or something), but justified confusion should only be at 1. 2 and 3 are reserved for when you're confused without a good reason.

Focus: 1-3. This is not *ability* to focus (that comes later). This refers to how focused you are on what you're doing. Mark this down if you are engrossed in a task or particularly focused, even if you can't control the focus.

Irr/Ang: 1-3. Irritated or angry. 1 is slightly angry (but with a reason), 2 is moderately angry (or slightly angry with no good reason), 3 is enraged (or moderately to severely angry without a good reason).

Anx/Pan: 1-3. Anxiety or panic. Same rules as Irr/Ang.

Calm: Just mark this box if you are feeling calm. I use a dot, you can use an X, whatever you want. Entered into the computer I just put a 1 for consistency.

Mem: +/- If you notice an unusual strength or deficit in memory, mark it plus or minus. This one can be hard to track, so just make a mark if you happen to notice you've forgotten something you shouldn't have, or remembered something you didn't expect to.

Conc: +/- This is your ability to concentrate. Same rules as memory.

Halluc: 1-3. Any kind of visual or auditory anomaly gets recorded here. 1 is blurring, seeing slight trails on moving objects, seeing something out of the corner of your eye that turns out to be something else, etc. 2 is seeing things out of the corner of your eye that turn out to be nothing at all, warping or moving of stationary objects, significant blurring or trails. 3 is fully seeing things that aren't there, hearing voices, etc.

Depress: 1-3. Depression. Put 1 for justified sadness, 2 for feeling more "down" than is justified by the situation, 3 for severe feelings of depression and/or hopelessness.

Euphoria: 1-3 Same rules as depression. So far I've only been marking this for feelings of happiness stronger than are justified, but starting today I'm going to change it. 1 will be happy for a good reason, 2 will be happier than is justified, 3 will be truly euphoric (like on a drug).

The long boxes on the bottom are for notes. Anything you think is relevant or important can be recorded here.

OK so that's all of it. I appreciate any submissions that anyone wants to offer, and I'll do some real analysis comparing different people. The thing I'm most curious about here is how different I really am from others. I think we all assume that our experiences are generally unique and "no one else would understand." I'll be interested to see how differently people fill in these forms, and if there will be any significant similarities. Thanks a lot to anyone who helps out!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Sappho on June 08, 2013, 10:07:21 am
Spoiler: Friday 7.6.13 notes (click to show/hide)

I'm slowly getting over my hangover from last night. The girl keeps messing with me, flirting then going cold, all in one day. It's making me a little crazy. Got very drunk with friends until 2 am then home to bed. This morning, felt awful, but fortunately I came home before doing any serious damage to myself.

It's interesting, actually. Used to be I would sit around all the time thinking of all the things I should be doing but couldn't motivate myself to do. Now I seem to be developing the habit of keeping busy. Around 11 am today I decided I'd give myself an hour to recover a bit more before doing all my responsible grown-up things. But immediately after deciding that, I did the dishes, started the laundry, picked up the living room, and vacuumed the apartment. Then I sat down, wrote out my invoice for my boss, and sent some other messages, paid my social security for the month, then did administrative work on the thread for my current adventurer succession game in the community games and stories forum. Then I figured I had earned a lie-down and nap for a while, but instead of that I took a shower and read a few chapters of my book. What has happened to me? Amazing that such a big change can happen so quickly, simply by writing down and keeping track of your emotional states and activities for a while.

The thing is, we all rely on our memories to inform us when making decisions. This made me happy, I'll do it more. This wasn't enjoyable, I'll avoid it. But our memories are clearly not as accurate as we believe them to be. My memories are definitely colored by my present emotional state. Writing everything down like this makes me realize things I never would have otherwise. When I spend a chunk of time playing video games, my happiness and energy go down. When I get angry at work, the kids get more difficult to deal with. When I feel too tired to go to training, but go anyway, I always have a nice time and feel better almost immediately. It's right there on the paper. Very easy to evaluate the problems when the information is organized like this, and make clear decisions on how to change them. So far it is working quite well. I'm making better decisions for myself and feeling better as a result.

I'm going to call the Cleaning Habits experiment a success for now, though I'll keep an eye on myself and see if I really do maintain things this way.

Spoiler: Saturday 8.6.13 notes (click to show/hide)

Yesterday I fell asleep around 6 and was out for a couple hours. No deep sleep, definitely constant dreaming, mostly about my teeth crumbling and falling out of my mouth. I woke back up, played video games for a couple hours, and then gave up and went back to bed around 10.30. As I was falling asleep I experienced significant auditory hallucinations (while still conscious). Voices that I knew could not be real, yet sounded very real. The only time I normally ever experience this is when I've had a significant amount of cannabis before bed, but this time I hadn't had any kind of drug, no alcohol, nothing. Then once I fell asleep there were more dreams about crumbling teeth (they kept shattering in my mouth and I was spitting out tiny shards of tooth constantly - I could feel my jaw clenching and destroying the teeth but was powerless to stop it - I assume I was grinding my teeth in my sleep and close enough to consciousness to be aware of it without being able to stop), plus grocery shopping, work, and other unpleasant and mundane things, until I woke up at 8.30. Maybe it was a delayed hangover. Anyway I feel a bit better this morning.

Spoiler: Sunday 9.6.13 notes (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Sappho on June 09, 2013, 02:46:10 am
Sure, I should probably try something like that for my own sake.  I guess I'll see if I can't try starting tomorrow?

(PS: I do the imaginary friends thing, too)

Let me know if you're starting. In fact, everyone please have a look at the first post, where I've organized my current request under the heading "Volunteers Wanted." If I can get even just a couple of people to do this for a day or two at least, it will be massively helpful for me, and I think it will be interesting for everyone to see how we compare in these ways that we so rarely talk about in our daily lives. Thanks!
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Post by: Vector on June 09, 2013, 11:25:15 am
Yeah, I'm in the middle of an unusually depressed mood with a clear cause, so I'm going to give this a break until I'm feeling a bit better.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Pnx on June 09, 2013, 02:42:31 pm
I just wanted to say this makes for very interesting reading, reminds me of the "I'm a Japanese school teacher" thing. Except with less complaints about steak and people poking fingers in unpleasant places.

The talking to imaginary people thing is something I do all the time too. Though I typically talk under my breath or in my head, I also often narrate posts in my head as well...
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Sappho on June 09, 2013, 03:01:44 pm
Vector: Fair enough. I'm in a similar situation but taking the notes is actually my way of dealing with it. : ) Hope things work out ok for you!

Pnx: Thanks. Knowing someone is actually reading is very motivating for me to continue this. I might not find the motivation to keep this up if I was the only one looking at it, and then I might lose the progress I've made. It's amazing how big a difference it can make, keeping track of things hour by hour and looking over them later with the benefit of hindsight. And I also talk under my breath, but my lips are moving and I see people giving me funny looks. : )

Here's a perfect example. Today I spent several hours playing the free trial of Civilization V on Steam. According to the notes I made while playing, I felt happy while playing the game and very focused. However, as soon as I stopped playing, I felt terrible. I laid down for a nap almost immediately and spent several hours struggling with feelings of depression and worthlessness (not helped by the fact that it started raining). I felt like my sluggish, miserable old self again, lying there thinking of the things I should be doing with my time but not finding the energy or motivation to get up. I fell asleep for a while and had terrible dreams. Eventually I finally managed to get up for a glass of water, then pushed myself to do some reading for a while until I started coming back to my senses. I was actually considering buying the game, since it's a really good deal this weekend and I did have fun playing it, but it seems pretty likely that there is a direct relationship between the gaming marathon and the crushing depression, so I will keep myself away from it.

I have noticed this pattern before. I can play games for a short while, less than an hour maybe, and still go on about my day feeling good. But once I go over some threshold (it would take more experimenting to find exactly where the threshold is - I might have to try it sometime) it does a great deal of psychological damage to me. And even physical damage - I had a terrible headache and blurry vision for a while after having stared at the computer screen so intently for so long.

I will have to be very careful with video games in the future. It is very easy to get sucked into them. They provide you lots of little psychological rewards along the way to keep you playing, but the moment you take it away, you realize you've wasted all that time and energy on something which has had no real positive impact on the world or your own life. That happiness does not stay. It is very easy to see how real "video game addiction" is. It works on your brain in the same way as traditional drugs. It feels good. Take it away, you feel bad. Have some more, feel good again, though with diminishing returns over time until before you know it you're miserable no matter what, and have destroyed your life to boot. In fact, I prefer to just use chemical drugs rather than play video games. At least going out and getting high can be a social activity with *some* kind of positive impact on your life, albeit with a price, of course. Video games, even multiplayer, are very isolating, and can draw you away from the things that are important in your life until you look up and realize they're gone.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Mictlantecuhtli on June 09, 2013, 03:17:01 pm
I use a variety of things and play video games.  ;)

I always feel worthless after a FIFA session, but that's because after years I still manage to get my ass handed to me on occassion and ragequit. I've tried to play less games myself, though. It's a fun activity, but I spent alot of the last 20 or so years playing games. 3-4 hour sessions make my head hurt.

I've also got a very specific annoyance with games that outright show you odds to do things, such as Wesnoth [% chance to hit, % chance of success] because sometimes I feel absolutely compelled to reroll a million times. If there's a 51% chance and it fails 5 times in a row.. I just quit. Maybe I'm a cheater, but skill-based games make me less.. Mad? Exception being FIFA. I think it's why I'm mostly about strategy games, now.

Note: I've been reading, but mostly for flood updates.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Pnx on June 09, 2013, 04:41:22 pm
I sometimes have similar concerns regarding video games, I'm pretty much never as focused as when I'm playing a good game, and I don't typically think that playing games negatively effects my mood later on, but I sometimes worry that playing games is negatively effecting my ability to focus on other things.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Sappho on June 10, 2013, 02:21:52 pm
The first thing you guys have to know today is I slept for about 3 hours last night and it's almost bedtime again, and I'm praying I'll actually sleep tonight but not at all convinced I will, and I'm really fucking tired and probably quite incoherent.

I believe my reason for not sleeping last night was mostly stress. Stress over work, over finding a new job before next school year, over the girl I'm enamored with who keeps sending me mixed signals and fucking with my head, over my visa, over pretty much everything in life. I suppose it's possible that hormones are starting to play a role, but I hope not, because I should still have at least a week before that should start happening.

Here's all the stuff I ate today.

Spoiler: Monday 10.6.13 notes (click to show/hide)

The weekend was really nice but today we had torrential downpours all day. Fortunately the river has stayed within safe limits. Public transport is running okay, no problems getting to work or my job interview today.

Tomorrow we've got a field trip. Which is okay. The trip will take my whole work day. We'll come back, eat lunch, rest, and I'll go home.

I was so fucked during Taiji today that my teacher looked genuinely worried about me. Normally he just makes fun of me for being a wuss. He's trying to help me find work for next year. He's a good guy. He's suggested I could take a training course in how to teach kids Taiji (his girlfriend teaches the course) and get some extra work that way, being the only person doing it in English. It's not a terrible idea, though it could hardly be a full-time job. What I'd really like to do is be an assistant for an autistic kid, at least part-time in the mornings, and maybe keep teaching in the afternoons. No idea what kind of qualifications I'd need though. I have the contact for a center for autism in Prague but I don't trust myself to write them an email in my current state. Also I'm not sure if I should disclose that I have AS, in case they think NTs are better to assist autistic kids...

I have to make some food now I guess, to bring to work tomorrow. might skip it and go straight to bed and just eat whatever slop they provide us at school. I guess.

Here's the funniest thing I've seen all day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=meiU6TxysCg
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Sappho on June 11, 2013, 02:29:36 pm
Today was a really rough day. I'm finally starting to feel good. It's amazing how a happy feeling right at the end of the day can color all your memories so strongly. I'm looking at my notes and it's amazing how terrible I felt earlier.

I have to try not to think too much about that, actually. I end up in a terribly philosophical mood. If I won't even remember feeling this way, maybe even just a few seconds from now, then what does the feeling mean? Nothing is significant, nothing matters if it will be forgotten quickly. Bad moods, yes, they will pass. No matter how bad I'm feeling, I know it won't last forever, and in fact it probably won't even last very long. But the same thing goes for GOOD feelings. What good is happiness when you're fully aware of how fleeting it is?

Like I said, have to try not to think about it. As a very wise fictional character once said, hang the sense of it and keep yourself busy.

Last night I slept better than the previous night, but not by much. On the plus side, I managed to get to sleep without any sedatives, even if it took a while. On the negative side, the cat kept attacking me all night. I guess he wants more attention. I overslept again and raced to work, at least relieved that I was not to be the first one there. My co-teacher agreed to come at 7.30 to open the school (the teacher who usually does it on Tuesday is away this week) and I was supposed to get there by 8. Fortunately I caught all the trains and bus perfectly, and got there about 15 minutes early (7.45). NO ONE WAS THERE. Not a single other person had showed up, including the one who was supposed to be there at 7.30 to start getting ready for our field trip today. Less than five minutes later there were 3 rowdy boys already there causing trouble, me trying to manage them while also preparing for the trip. No other teachers came until 8. Good start to the day.

The trip was a nightmare. 18 kids, including all the most difficult ones, on public transportation for over an hour. Lots of yelling and pushing and fighting and dirty looks from other commuters. And our destination? An interactive exhibition at a gallery. Primarily about sound. There were entire rooms filled with every possible noise-making device imaginable. BIG instruments. GIANT instruments. Lots of running and hitting and screaming and all the noise noise noise NOISE. By the time we left my ears were terribly painful. I nearly had a meltdown on the way back to the school. And the icing on the cake? On my way home from work I discovered I had forgotten my headphones at the school. No music, no barrier between my sore ears and the noises of the outside world.

Then I got home to an email from the school I had interviewed at 6 weeks ago telling me they had given the position to someone else.

At least, after Taiji, I managed to motivate myself enough to finally wash the dishes and cook dinner. (I didn't even eat lunch. Too stressed to eat.) Now I don't know if I can bring myself to clean it all up properly though. At least I got a few more interviews today. Wish me luck finding a job everyone. If I don't find enough work, I don't just move back with my family or even become homeless. I get kicked out of the fucking country.

Spoiler: Tuesday 11.6.13 notes (click to show/hide)

I'm exhausted now and will probably go to bed soon. the apartment is getting messy again though. I haven't vacuumed in a few days and the clutter is starting to build up. I just don't have the time or energy to clean. How do people live their lives and also manage to keep their home tidy? How is it possible?
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Sappho on June 12, 2013, 01:14:41 pm
And we come to the end of another very long and difficult day. I seem to have fucked up my back somehow on that trip yesterday (crazy, right, that I might hurt myself swinging around wildly on a fast-moving tram trying to keep 18 small children together in the mob of people) so I've been in pain all day. Had to leave Taiji training early. That is some serious pain, let me tell you. I'm grouchy and miserable and the last thing I feel like doing is recounting all the food I ate today, so I'm going to skip it today. In fact, I might take a bit of a break from the daily updates, until my stress levels simmer back down a bit. I'll try to post any significant things I notice, and I will continue to track myself on my little charts, but the detailed info is probably going to slow to a trickle for a while.

The one positive thing about today is that I picked up my bottle of La Grenouille premium absinthe at the post office on my way home. I'm about to take my first taste. It smells amazing. Proper absinthe, in the land of fake neon green tourist shit, I have missed you so much.

I'm still interested in getting data from other people, if there are any volunteers. You might be surprised what you learn about yourself!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: RedKing on June 12, 2013, 01:24:53 pm
I would love to help, but I'm notoriously bad at maintaining any kind of records about myself. Or really, doing anything that requires self-discipline and setting aside discrete packets of time on a regular basis.  :-\
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Sappho on June 12, 2013, 02:59:39 pm
That's okay. I don't set aside packets of time though - I manage it by obsessing over it every waking second. MUCH easier.

This absinthe is truly amazing. I'm so glad I decided to order it. I got a bit of an energy rush from the herbs in it for a while, but I'm calming down now. Feeling much better than I did earlier but dreading tomorrow. Another long day, though hopefully not as difficult as the past few have been. Also realizing how late it is... It's tough to make myself fully realize it's time to settle in and head to bed when it doesn't get dark until nearly 22.30.

The cat is sniffing at his ceramic pot but doesn't seem pleased... I had been growing lentils in there for him. He loves the greens and since he doesn't go outside it seems like a good idea to have something like this available (and lentils are DIRT cheap and grow super fast and I have them sitting around anyway). But he ate all the lentils and I had some mung bean sprouts so I threw some of them in there, and he doesn't seem so interested in the greens coming up now. Maybe I should go back to lentils. I should see if I can get my hands on some catnip seeds... Can you believe they don't really have catnip in this country? I have to bring it with me from America. I'll have to order some seeds online or something.

Okay, that's enough for tonight. Good night everyone. Go snuggle a cat.

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Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: XXSockXX on June 12, 2013, 03:01:31 pm
The one positive thing about today is that I picked up my bottle of La Grenouille premium absinthe at the post office on my way home. I'm about to take my first taste. It smells amazing. Proper absinthe, in the land of fake neon green tourist shit, I have missed you so much.
Oi, be careful with that good stuff  ;).
Actually be careful with any kind of intoxication. As much as I enjoy it, I find swinging back between highs and hangovers over a prolonged time very exhausting physically and mentally. I don't have any hard data (I'm too lazy to collect it too), but in my experience even relatively low amounts of alcohol/pot/chemicals can screw up your eating habits and sleep cycles, if taken regularly.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Sappho on June 12, 2013, 11:29:29 pm
The one positive thing about today is that I picked up my bottle of La Grenouille premium absinthe at the post office on my way home. I'm about to take my first taste. It smells amazing. Proper absinthe, in the land of fake neon green tourist shit, I have missed you so much.
Oi, be careful with that good stuff  ;).
Actually be careful with any kind of intoxication. As much as I enjoy it, I find swinging back between highs and hangovers over a prolonged time very exhausting physically and mentally. I don't have any hard data (I'm too lazy to collect it too), but in my experience even relatively low amounts of alcohol/pot/chemicals can screw up your eating habits and sleep cycles, if taken regularly.

Oh, yes, no argument from me. Fortunately I have managed to get myself out of the habit of regularly consuming such substances. For sure I tend to feel awful the next day if I use this means to get to sleep (or certainly if I go out partying or something). Right now it's difficult. Due to the high amount of stress I'm under, I am absolutely not sleeping, even when I'm utterly exhausted. Each night I have a choice. I can not sleep and be dead the whole next day (adding even more to my stress levels), or I can sedate myself in various ways, all of which will likely result in me feeling crappy in the morning (even small amounts). Either way the next day is going to be rough, and it will remain this way until I can get control of my life back. If I sedate myself then the morning will be unpleasant, but then again mornings are always unpleasant for me, and the afternoon tends to be better than it would if I had simply not slept. So sometimes I go with that option, either drinking or smoking a little bit, or having some strong sedative tea. (I'm quite proud that I have avoided diazepam completely for a few months now.) But I don't like how often it's happening now. I hope I can break this cycle soon...

In any case, I wasn't drinking the absinthe for drunkenness or sedative effect. I was just tasting it. I mean really, the tiniest bit - maybe 1/3 of what you'd call a "shot" - mixed with sugar and water to bring out the flavor and drunk over a period of more than an hour. I do feel crappy this morning, but I can't be sure if it's due to that little bit of alcohol (plus the sugar) or just because I didn't really sleep. Both, I suppose.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: XXSockXX on June 13, 2013, 12:11:30 am
I can relate to that, I tend to feel crappy in the morning too and compensate with large amounts of coffee. I doubt small quantities of alcohol are detrimental to quality of sleep, I just tend to avoid alcohol as a means to get sleepy, as I would require increasingly larger quantities over several days.

Absinthe is a fine taste when consumed with burned sugar. I just got to know the Green Fairy too well one time  ;).
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Sappho on June 13, 2013, 05:18:42 am
I can relate to that, I tend to feel crappy in the morning too and compensate with large amounts of coffee. I doubt small quantities of alcohol are detrimental to quality of sleep, I just tend to avoid alcohol as a means to get sleepy, as I would require increasingly larger quantities over several days.

Absinthe is a fine taste when consumed with burned sugar. I just got to know the Green Fairy too well one time  ;).

Ack, no way! Burned sugar... This was invented in recent years to make it look flashier and to keep tourists interested. Whenever you introduce fire to absinthe, aside from the huge fire hazard (that shit is generally around 70% alcohol), you also burn off most of the alcohol content and ruin much of the flavor. Absinthe should be mixed with cold sugar water, or if you want to be showy about it you can drip cold water over a sugar cube on a special absinthe spoon, dissolving it in the process (but this takes longer and is less effective than just dissolving the sugar in the water before adding it). Sugar won't dissolve readily in alcohol, so you need the water to do it. If you don't add the sugar, the taste is quite flat and mostly of licorice. If you properly add sugar water (without burning or melting it first), you get a whole range of smells and flavors. Also it's beautiful to watch the cloud form in the glass... If the sugar is melted or burned first, or especially if the absinthe itself is ignited, the flavor is much less interesting and the drink is far less potent.

I had a rough trip to work this morning, sensitivity high right from the get go, but actually the day at work has been okay. I gave the kids some paper dolls to color in and cut out and that kept them busy, and we managed to keep them quiet all morning. It helps that the most difficult kid is not here today. And the two second most difficult ones are both going home after lunch! Rest should be pretty easy and then they have aikido (an hour free for me), then I only have one more hour before I leave. Should be pretty good. So here's hoping I'll have the energy and motivation to get my apartment back in the state I want it to be, and cook something healthy for dinner (I've been resorting to pre-made meals far too much this week).
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: XXSockXX on June 13, 2013, 11:04:15 am
Ack, no way! Burned sugar... This was invented in recent years to make it look flashier and to keep tourists interested. Whenever you introduce fire to absinthe, aside from the huge fire hazard (that shit is generally around 70% alcohol), you also burn off most of the alcohol content and ruin much of the flavor. Absinthe should be mixed with cold sugar water, or if you want to be showy about it you can drip cold water over a sugar cube on a special absinthe spoon, dissolving it in the process (but this takes longer and is less effective than just dissolving the sugar in the water before adding it).
Yes, I may be victim to a trend there, absinthe was illegal here till the late 90s and then it became hip. I would put an absinthe-soaked cube of sugar on a spoon, set it on fire and let the caramelized sugar drip into the absinthe (without inflaming the whole thing of course, that would be bad), then add water.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Volunteers Wanted!]
Post by: Sappho on June 13, 2013, 11:28:08 am
If you ever get the opportunity to try again, just add sugar water. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

So I just had my dinner of a caprese sandwich (tomato, basil, and mozzarella on a baguette with olive oil and balsamic vinaigrette) and my stomach is starting to hurt. Like, big ouch pains, similar to when I had food poisoning a couple weeks ago. I am trying to convince myself that it's only gas from my lactose intolerance from the cheese on my sandwich, but I'm super paranoid now that I might have food poisoning again. Any advice?

Today has been a super sleepy day. I fell asleep on the way to work, and again on the way home. Also for a few minutes during rest. The strange thing is, I've been drinking caffeinated tea all day. Strong tea, in fact. Now I'm worried I won't be able to sleep at night again...

EDIT: Well either it was just gas, or else the double shot of the 140 proof fake absinthe I drank killed the infection before it could do any damage. As horrible as that stuff is, it's useful to keep around for medical uses. (It tasted SO FUCKING BAD.)

A few thoughts on sleep. I'm feeling rather sleepy right now, but restless as well (presumably due to stress). That said, I fell asleep, unintentionally and with almost no warning, three separate times today. Morning, midday, and afternoon. I got enough sleep last night that I shouldn't be passing out from pure exhaustion. And this has been happening all week, even during things I enjoy (Taiji training for example). I wake up frequently during the night, usually from nightmares (always from dreams), and am nodding off all the time.

This used to always be the case. To the point that I was sure I had narcolepsy. Stress and a hyperactive mind might be blamed for my difficulty falling asleep at night, but aside from that I had all the symptoms of narcolepsy, including hypnagogic hallucinations, sleep paralysis, frequent lucid dreams, apparent near-constant dreaming (I always wake up in the middle of a dream), frequent awakening at night, excessive daytime sleepiness, and attacks of falling asleep (almost always under stressful circumstances and around the same time of day or in similar circumstances). Over the past couple of months I started to think that I was wrong about narcolepsy, because I stopped falling asleep during the day. Now, the sleep attacks are back.

So I still have no idea what the deal is. I don't know of any other sleep disorder (I think it's pretty clear I have SOME kind of sleep disorder) with all these symptoms, other than narcolepsy. But it would seem that my difficulty falling asleep at night would make that diagnosis impossible. I tried contacting a sleep lab nearby once but they never responded (presumably they didn't speak English). Maybe I should have a Czech friend contact them for me. In any case, it would be a very expensive process to diagnose me, and my insurance wouldn't pay for any of it. And I'm a teacher, so, um, not exactly rich over here.

I would like to find a better way to do some !!SCIENCE!! on this. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome!!!
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Post by: Sappho on June 14, 2013, 05:37:51 am
Hm... Was quite calm and happy all morning, even with bad weather, but suddenly as soon as lunch started I got massive anxiety, panic, anger... Outside we had a nice time but as we were coming inside the kids stared getting louder and crazier and wouldn't sit or calm down for lunch. I immediately started feeling irritation and anxiety, worsened by the fact that my boss was there to "help" which is always the most stressful thing that can happen at work. She basically lets the kids do whatever they want (she was giving one kid piskoty, a sweet snack, instead of lunch, because he said he didn't want lunch) and favors her 4-year-old daughter terribly, sitting next to her and catering to her every whim (she had ordered the meat lunch but demanded half meat, half vegetarian, with a side of of the sweet lunch they can get on Fridays, and of course she got it). My boss is also one of the loudest adults I know and her mere presence in the room brings the volume up to an intolerable level as the kids shout over her to talk to each other.

It's upsetting to notice myself going so quickly from happy to near-meltdown. Is it possible I am really getting hormonal already? I should have nearly another week before that happens. I'll have to keep these notes carefully for at least a few months to see if I can pinpoint the day my PMS starts and if it really is as unreasonably long as it seems to be. Not that there's much I can do about it if it is, I suppose, other than taking tranquilizers, which I want to avoid...

As I came here to the office for my break, the toddlers were just outside the office door getting ready to go home. They were singing the same repetitive irritating songs as always and of course one of them was just screaming the whole time. I nearly started crying, but fortunately I had the presence of mind to run back to my classroom and grab my headphones. I've got Inama Nushif from the Children of Dune soundtrack blaring in my ears now as loud as I can tolerate it (which is unfortunately still not quite loud enough to drown out the screaming, but it certainly helps).

I'm praying that the afternoon goes better than lunch. I fell asleep on the way to work again, and I feel quite likely to do so again during rest, despite the coffee I drank... I have a Taiji conditioning workshop for 2.5 hours after work, so I have to be awake for that. I hope I can manage it.

It seems important to note that caffeine has been doing nothing against my fatigue for the past few days. I don't normally drink much in the way of caffeinated beverages - maybe one or two cups of tea during the day and rarely any coffee - so I shouldn't have a high tolerance to caffeine. I'm drinking loads of tea and coffee these past few days and it's not helping at all.

Another thing I've noticed, looking at my notes: I am not sad or depressed as often as I imagined I was, but I am also not often happy. Most of the time I seem to be sort of blank and neutral. It's not unpleasant, but it's not pleasant either. I'm not sure how I feel about this.
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Post by: DeKaFu on June 14, 2013, 07:52:19 am
Another thing I've noticed, looking at my notes: I am not sad or depressed as often as I imagined I was, but I am also not often happy. Most of the time I seem to be sort of blank and neutral. It's not unpleasant, but it's not pleasant either. I'm not sure how I feel about this.

I'm pretty sure this is a normal part of being a human. I don't think anyone really feels happy all the time, or even most of the time. It's just that it's the notably happy or sad or emotional times that remain in our memory. Memory's funny like that.
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Post by: Sappho on June 14, 2013, 02:12:18 pm
Another thing I've noticed, looking at my notes: I am not sad or depressed as often as I imagined I was, but I am also not often happy. Most of the time I seem to be sort of blank and neutral. It's not unpleasant, but it's not pleasant either. I'm not sure how I feel about this.

I'm pretty sure this is a normal part of being a human. I don't think anyone really feels happy all the time, or even most of the time. It's just that it's the notably happy or sad or emotional times that remain in our memory. Memory's funny like that.

Yeah, I guess I know that, it's just strange to see it on paper. I suppose it's not the fact that I'm not happy all the time - I don't expect that. I'm not even talking about extremes or notably strong feelings. Each hour of the day I think to myself, "do I feel at all happy right now? Do I feel at all unhappy?" And most of the time the answer is "no" to both questions. I just imagined that I sort of went up and down. I never realized how much time I spend perfectly neutral. Like I don't really feel anything. It's really strange. Like I'm a robot or something. Is it that I don't care about what I'm doing, that I have no positive or negative feelings about it? Am I jaded, or apathetic, or what?

I just got back from my Taiji conditioning workshop. Lots of exercises that are supposed to get your heart pumping and work your muscles. For the first half (even after chugging a whole bottle of sugary caffeinated iced tea) I was in constant danger of falling asleep. I had to stop one of the partner exercises right in the middle because I thought I was going to pass out. We had some good tea during the break and then did some boxing practice, and one or both of those two things managed to wake me up enough that I wasn't passing out for the second half.

It's one thing to feel sleepy or weak when you're doing something you dislike, but something you love? Something you've been looking forward to? You shouldn't be passing out in the middle of that. I had blurry vision, extreme weakness in my limbs, and a constant desire to lie down and sleep. I also fell asleep twice today, on the way to and from work. Out cold with my head bouncing against the bus window. I wasn't able to fall asleep during work because the kids were maniacs during rest, but I spent the whole afternoon regretting that I hadn't been able to lie down and close my eyes for a few minutes.

I feel like I have to do something about this, but I don't know what to do. I suppose I can go to a doctor that my insurance covers and get a recommendation. I know from long experience that they can't diagnose me just based on my symptoms, because I've had sleep issues since I was 5 years old and never gotten a diagnosis. But maybe they can at least send me along to a sleep center (which will drain all my funds, obviously).
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Post by: Neonivek on June 14, 2013, 09:05:23 pm
I love that comic because it is funny and true... for good reason.

And it managed to be VERY funny without insulting anyone, so bonus too!
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Post by: Sappho on June 15, 2013, 02:16:53 am
You mean the SMBC one? You know, for a guy who puts out a new comic every single day of the week including weekends, I am constantly amazed by the high quality of his material. I definitely can't match it and I only make new comics now and then when I feel like it.

This morning I woke up depressed. Very depressed. About a lot of things. I spent a good deal of time crying before I even got out of bed. Then I read some comedy online and I'm not crying anymore, but I can feel that I'm just trying to bury the problems because I don't know how to deal with them. They're still there, waiting. If I don't keep myself busy enough, they'll leap out and hold me down and beat the shit out of me all over again and I don't know how to stop it.

And I'm not talking about irrational depression that makes you feel horrible for no obvious reason. I have reasons. Most of the time I'm able to shove them aside and get on with my life and make a joke about it and focus on what's good, at least enough to not burst into tears. But today that doesn't seem to be the case. This morning I woke up and the depression took its opportunity to jump me and torture me for a while, to the point where I hardly felt I could get out of bed, soaking my pillow with tears in self-pity over how unfair life is.

Maybe if I write some of these things down it will help. Feedback accepted, possibly even appreciated, but not really expected.

Spoiler: Long, sorry. (click to show/hide)

So that's that. I'm not going to training this morning because I'm too embarrassed by how I acted last night. And too afraid I'll burst into tears in the middle of it, or collapse to the ground. If I start letting this leak out, even to the people in my taiji group (who are friends but we haven't known each other that long), it'll all just come pouring out in a flood of unmet needs and despair. I don't like people seeing me cry.

I guess that's all for now. I'll get to the business of distracting myself from the truth of my life again. Maybe make a cup of tea, read a book. I'm still on Children of Dune. Very inspiring. The main characters are so different from others that no one can understand them and they constantly have to adapt to the world which wasn't designed for them. Sounds familiar. At least they're twins, they have each other.

"The chances of finding out what's actually going on are so absurdly remote that the only thing to do is say hang the sense of it and keep yourself busy. I'd rather be happy than right any day."
"And are you?"
"Ah... no."

EDIT: It occurs to me that one of the reasons I love Taiji so much is all the physical contact. When we do push hands, we're grabbing each other, holding on to each other, focused entirely on feeling the other person's movement and reacting to it. It's the closest to cuddling I've gotten in over a year.
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Post by: Mictlantecuhtli on June 15, 2013, 03:31:47 am
You're obviously plenty smart and in my eyes full of potential. No more beating yourself up, not allowed :] It can be a self-feeding cycle at times, I know.

It's hard age, especially for someone in your position. All I can recommend [besides lip service] is possibly a therapist to help lay everything on the table for, so to speak. If that's even an option, of course. Sometimes inner hardships are easier to handle when made less.. Internal, pervasive. Lord knows I've been down the path. To talk about something is the easiest way to get if off my mind, usually. You do a pretty good job of communicating the things you find difficult though.

Do you mind me asking if posts like the 'Long' spoiler make you feel better or worse by the time you write them?
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Post by: Sappho on June 15, 2013, 04:49:48 am
Thanks for the reply. I know that some things can change, but some things definitely can't. I keep going in cycles in my life of working really hard to improve everything, then eventually realizing I've ended up right back where I was, with the deepest problems still just as bad as they ever were. You can work very hard to hide your autism but you can never cure it.

I spent about 10 years in therapy growing up. It never did me any good. If anything, it fueled my instinct to constantly talk about everything (which people find off-putting now). I talked and talked and talked but it was really no different than blabbing to a stranger at a bar or ranting on the internet. Therapists are doing a job. I don't need someone who will listen and offer advice so much as I just need someone who truly cares about me, loves me unconditionally, and lives through all these things with me. I really think the majority of people have that in their parents. I know not everyone gets along with their parents generally, but everyone I know, in the kind of situation I'm in, would immediately go to their mom or dad to talk. I've never had that, and I know that's a big part of my problem. When you go through your life looking for a substitute for that, you end up being needy and driving people away.

Anyway, I appreciate the suggestion. Thanks for reading that whole long rant. As for whether I feel better after writing such things... I guess there's a sort of pressure that builds up to just let it all out. Writing it down isn't quite as effective as saying it out loud to someone who cares about you and gives you a big hug in return, but on the other hand I write better than I speak and writing lets me organize all my thoughts and really express what's going on without being interrupted, so in that sense, it certainly provides a kind of relief. Doesn't really help solve anything, but I guess it lets me relax a little. After I wrote that I went back to bed and immediately fell asleep for another hour.

I felt really good during the boxing part of last night's workshop. I'd love to go back to boxing lessons, but the only place I could find to do it at was heavily focused on strength and power. It was a bunch of big, strong men who wanted to learn how to fight, plus me, who could hardly do ten push-ups (nowadays I could probably hardly do one). After half an hour of jumping rope, push-ups, and other such exercises, I was so dead on my feet that I could hardly lift my hands with the heavy gloves on them. Too intense for me just starting out and I don't have the time and willpower to keep up a serious exercise regimen on my own. I don't suppose anyone knows any boxing gyms in Prague with a slower program for beginners, or a program focused on speed and agility rather than raw strength and power (I'm 170 cm / 5'7" and 53 kg / 117 lb). The only program I could find specifically targeted to women was called "fit box" and was just about conditioning. Booooooring.
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Post by: DeKaFu on June 15, 2013, 09:22:46 am
[Long text]

...Wow. As an Aspergers diagnosee who has yet to really strike out on their own, this hit kind of painfully close to home. I'll resist the need to ramble about my own life here, but I suspect I've been doing a lot of my own running from similar problems, and it'll probably start catching up to me in a big way in the next couple years once I hit the "real" world.

I'd say this stuff is definitely one of the reasons why I chose to focus my life around animals, though. The chance at affection and simply being around other living beings without having to worry about the insane circus that is human social interaction.
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Post by: Kirbypowered on June 15, 2013, 10:59:46 am
Okay, so first off, I was reading your thoughts on video games and had to wonder what you'd think of Proteus (http://store.steampowered.com/app/219680). I've only played it a couple times now (lousy computer), but it has had a short term affect on me in that I'll take more note of my surroundings after playing, as well as being relaxed.

Reading your long post...I don't know if anything I could say would be much help. I'm only really good at going on long, repetitious rambles that don't result in me actually saying what I mean to say...

Also, I am definitely interested in trying to track myself hourly, it'll just take a mountain of effort to get started. Mayhaps I will start tomorrow. I am actually interested in finding some things out about myself anyways, and it would give me a reason to not sit around all day feeling negative about doing nothing.

Best of luck to you. There are words that I want to put here but I can't think of them. Add whatever you like. =p
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Post by: Sappho on June 15, 2013, 02:31:29 pm
Wow, guys. Honestly I wasn't expecting anyone to read all that, much less to reply. Thanks. Just knowing that someone is making note of what I say is encouraging.

DeKaFu: For all that I have my bad days, I have to admit that for the most part I am reasonably satisfied with my life. There are so many things that I do now just as part of my routine which, only a few years ago, I would have imagined impossible. I can be proud of all the progress I've made, even if I do have times when I'm depressed.

I think it's really easy to assume you are incapable of something just because you've never been forced to try, holding on to your safety net. Once you dive in and it's do-or-die, you discover that you have always had far greater potential than you ever imagined. It's such a shame that children these days are all raised in the most protective, sheltered possible circumstances. I never had to face any real challenges growing up, and I was one of the first generation to experience that. My parents, who grew up in the 70s (I've got a young family), were told to get out of the house in the morning and be back by dinner, with no cell phones, no plan, just go off into the world and survive until sunset. In my generation we're all terrified of being on our own because there has always been someone there to help us, someone telling us how dangerous everything is and how careful we always have to be. This goes even for neurotypical people. For all that I have a hard time sometimes (and I offer no illusions that life is easy, or even that it should be), moving out and facing the world on my own is the best decision I ever made.

Kirbypowered: Thanks for the link. I've never heard of Proteus but it looks worth trying. I've definitely spent more than 7 euros on temporary happiness many times before and I think I can justify purchasing this one and trying it out, as long as I keep track of how much time I spend on it. It will be interesting to see how it affects me.

Also, hooray for tracking yourself hourly! Start tomorrow. : ) I plan to spend part of tomorrow finally sorting through all my data so far and producing some graphs and charts. I meant to do it today, actually, but an annoying friend was kind enough to drag me out to lunch then sit on my sofa all afternoon and evening eating my snacks and demanding that I let him use my internet for work stuff since his is out for another week.

I'm not complaining. In fact, although I spent several hours wishing he'd just shove off and go home, I place a high value on reliable (and well-intentioned) annoying friends. Rather than explain my reasons, I'll let David Wong do it: http://www.cracked.com/article_15231_7-reasons-21st-century-making-you-miserable.html

So thanks to this guy, my depression and self-pity are gone and I'm feeling okay now, even though I didn't get done the stuff I meant to get done. Also, although he doesn't know about my experiments, he gave me the idea for my next one: the non-disclosure game. To try to directly combat my tendency to blab on and on about all the details of my life to people who don't want to hear them (rather than a general feeling of "I talk too much"), I'm going to play a game with myself where I divulge as little information as possible while still maintaining friendly conversation. My primary target will be that girl I work with, and I plan to start on Monday, at work. I will think up some more details by then and make it all formal.

I'm still tracking myself each hour, of course.

Oh, and today I finished getting the apartment back to its new default "tidy" state, including vacuuming and even washing the shower. I WILL keep up these habits!!!

Thanks for being an awesome bunch of forumgoers, guys.

EDIT:

Oh, wow. I allowed myself to play Proteus for an hour and it was just enough time to get to the "ending" though of course I haven't seen it all. That was so beautiful. I will most certainly be playing this again, and again. I will leave it on in the background whenever I'm drawing or reading. The music in it moved me nearly as much as the story in To The Moon. It actually made me cry a little.

I just wrote up a quick little review on my Tumblr to encourage others to try it out. Thanks, Kirbypowered. I might never have found this without your recommendation. http://thingsairafound.tumblr.com/post/53049474402/its-not-often-i-recommend-a-game-to-be-played
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Post by: Sappho on June 16, 2013, 12:22:51 pm
Thanks Naxza. : ) After 6 years on these forums I am still consistently impressed by the quality of this community.

Today I bought a new computer mouse (old one was double-clicking all the time when I was trying to single-click) and an external hard drive (been promising myself one for literally years). I don't want to keep spending money all the time, but these two things were long overdue. I also fell asleep immediately when I got home from the store, for about half an hour, before I even unpacked my stuff.

Been okay for the afternoon. It's gorgeous outside but going out in the sun (and the pollen) makes me sleepy, so I'm staying in. Cooked dinner (which turned out lousy, unfortunately) and ate, and been backing up my stuff on my new HD and clearing some space on the computer. Still need to enter all my data and make my charts. Not sure if I'll make it today...

Tomorrow we have another fucking field trip (one per week, hooray). This one is on a boat (that will be fun) and we have to leave work at 7.45 to make it. Then I get to leave work a bit early to go observe at this school I want to work at. Then Tuesday I leave work early again to go give my demo lesson at that school which will determine whether I get the cushiest job of my life... Wednesday I normally work 8.5 hours (7.30 to 16.00) but this week we have our year-end party with the parents, which means I'll be there until at least 6 pm. Then Thursday I have another job interview at a preschool.

My primary goal this week is simply to get through it all without tranquilizers. If I crack on Wednesday and need to take a pill, though, I won't be too hard on myself. These parties are always on Wednesdays, when I'm the only person there from 7.30 and have the longest work day, and they are always nightmarish. Generally they end with me hiding in the bathroom crying and then being totally fucked up for the rest of the week (lots of ear pain even from small sounds, sudden attacks of anxiety, meltdowns, etc.).

Wish me luck, guys.
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Post by: XXSockXX on June 16, 2013, 11:14:50 pm
If you ever get the opportunity to try again, just add sugar water. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Will do. I have avoided the stuff for a long time, because I overdid it a bit.

What do normal people do? Do normal people just not have these problems? Are they really good at hiding them? Am I supposed to be hiding them? I feel like everything about me is just an annoyance to other people. Like they all wish I would just stop existing so they wouldn’t have to deal with me.
You know, I'm fully convinced that most intelligent people just fake their way through a lot of social situations. Most of it is a game of reading people and figuring out what to say or do and what not say. It may not be the same for you, but you can get pretty far on fake confidence and practice.

Rather than explain my reasons, I'll let David Wong do it: http://www.cracked.com/article_15231_7-reasons-21st-century-making-you-miserable.html
That article is really good, and true.
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Post by: Orb on June 17, 2013, 01:59:42 am
I never thought there was someone like me who analyzed social behavior. I was actually surprised some of the thoughts that ran through your head ran through mine too, though at a more subconscious level.

Anyway, your entries are enlightening, and I hope you continue them. They've helped bring perspective to my own life, at least a little bit.

Spoiler: Own Advice/Rambling (click to show/hide)
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Post by: Vector on June 17, 2013, 02:12:05 am
Hi Sappho.  I'm like you.

I don't know what else to say.  I'm 23.  Unofficial diagnosis at 19.  The information was... I always thought I was normal, but everyone else knew I wasn't, apparently.  Parents still don't know (they're also kind of like me, so dropping that bomb on them sounds like a bad idea).  I went insane, dropped out of school, etc.  Then I went back.  Still having trouble coping.  I would probably hang out with myself, but that's because at least then I'd know that we would share interests for once.

And yeah, I feel pretty worthless most of the time.  I want to be important and helpful, but, you know.  I am what I am.  I recognize that anything I can do well could probably be done better by a normal person who actually bothered to put their mind to the task at hand.
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Post by: Skyrunner on June 17, 2013, 03:10:09 am
Vector: What I find is that practically everything is like that. No matter what you do, someone else probably does it a lot better.

Then again this might be unrelated... >_>
/me bows out
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Post by: Kirbypowered on June 17, 2013, 07:43:44 am
Also, hooray for tracking yourself hourly! Start tomorrow. : )

So, tomorrow...uh...today's tomorrow, right?

I ended up staying overnight, as usually unintentionally happens, so I sadly did not get any note taking done. A couple times I thought to take note of my mood, once during the day, neither happy nor sad, and once at night, feeling a tad depressed (as I usually do when lying in bed unable to sleep). I'll write up some copies of the self tracking sheet for myself in a moment so I can get started formally this morning. At least I got to have a day away from the computer. =)

Oh, wow. I allowed myself to play Proteus for an hour and it was just enough time to get to the "ending" though of course I haven't seen it all. That was so beautiful. I will most certainly be playing this again, and again. I will leave it on in the background whenever I'm drawing or reading. The music in it moved me nearly as much as the story in To The Moon. It actually made me cry a little.

I just wrote up a quick little review on my Tumblr to encourage others to try it out. Thanks, Kirbypowered. I might never have found this without your recommendation. http://thingsairafound.tumblr.com/post/53049474402/its-not-often-i-recommend-a-game-to-be-played

Happy to be able to recommend such a beautiful game, sort of honoured that you took up my suggestion so quickly. =P Though I guess I knew it was something special the moment I saw it. As soon as I get my new computer, I'm going to have to have a proper playthrough.

...I'm doing that thing where I sit around mulling over a post for far too long again. What has it been, half an hour now? Bleh. Time to get to those charts.
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Post by: Sappho on June 17, 2013, 11:26:37 am
Wow wow wow, so much to respond to. Please forgive me if I forget anything. I'll try to reply to everyone.

XXSockXX - Yes, I'm sure you're right. A lot of people get pretty far on faking. The problem is, faking relies even more on the ability to read people than standard social skills do. That's my difficulty. However, I do seem to have a talent for faking my way through in specific situations. Job interviews, for example. For some reason, once I get in the "interview" mindset, it's like someone else takes over for a while and I never fail to impress. Crazy hidden talent I guess.

Orb - Thanks for sharing your ideas. It might be a bit difficult for me to take a course in psychology since I've been out of university for 6 years already and I don't really have much in the way of free time these days. I definitely agree that it's interesting. I've done quite a lot of reading up on my own on psychology and neurology. I've never had much luck reading textbooks in these areas, too dense and dry, but maybe I'll find a book and give it another shot to see how it goes.

Vector - You don't have to be the best at something for it to be worth doing it. I am pretty terrible at most things, but all that really matters is whether I'm satisfied with what I'm doing. If I spend a lot of energy telling myself I'm worthless, I will feel worthless. If I spend a lot of energy finding the things that make me feel important and useful, I will feel important and useful. Does it really matter whether the result is the best possible, as long as you feel good about doing something?

Kirbypowered - Start whenever you're ready. I'm looking forward to having some more information to compare myself to. I think I'll probably play through Proteus again tonight. I'm quite likely to need it.

Today has been a rough day. Very roller-coaster-ish. Morning was horrible. Field trip was boring and stressful. Girl at work is back from her week away at school and I'm just as torn up inside about her as I ever was. I did start playing my non-disclosure game, though. I kept the conversation going by asking her about her week, and even got her to answer a few (very mildly) personal questions, though she was careful to leave out all the details.

Left work very early to go to this elementary school to observe a few classes. My mood swung up pretty quickly. This program looks amazing. I talked to some of the teachers and everything they said convinced me more and more that this would be my dream job. I'm also completely convinced that I'm exactly the teacher this woman is looking for. Now I just have to convince HER of that. Tomorrow will be my demo lesson. I think it will go well. My demo lessons always go well. But naturally I'm a bit nervous. Still, I left the school feeling good and kept that feeling all the way home.

Then I got home, turned on the computer, switched on the speakers, and discovered that the cat had destroyed the cable leading from the right speaker to the left. Last time he broke it, I managed to fix it, but this time it's beyond repair. I immediately flipped the fuck out and screamed at the top of my lungs for a minute or so. The cat was terrified and refused to come out from behind the toilet for an hour. I feel bad now, but at the time I wanted to throw him across the room. VIOLENT mood swing is the most accurate description here.

Although I managed to calm back down fairly quickly, it upsets me to realize that even when I'm in a good mood, I'm really that close to having a meltdown. I suppose at this point it must be hormones.

Anyway, today due to the chaos of the day I didn't even keep track of myself on my chart. Tomorrow I should manage it better, I think.

Now I'm off to Taiji. Hopefully I will stay positive through that and not fall asleep. I haven't felt particularly sleepy since I got to the elementary school. I suppose this supports the idea that it is really stress that is causing these fits of sleepiness. Which points to narcolepsy, because normally stress causes the opposite effect. I really must get my sleeping issues diagnosed soon so I can try to do something about them...

(Edit) Later...

Good news, everyone. Taiji went quite well. A few times I caught myself about to complain about some minor pain somewhere in my body, but I stopped myself, told myself it was nothing and I should toughen up a bit and carry on, and by the end of class I felt pretty good, no pains. Maybe if I can constantly keep myself in check this way, I can start to get rid of some of the problems which are really just the result of anxiety. Would be easier without the sudden mood swings, of course.

Now I have to get about the business of preparing my lesson for tomorrow. The woman wants a pretty detailed lesson plan, so I have to get it together. Which means focusing. Which means stopping writing this. I'm sure I'll get around to it any minute now. Should be okay, although I'm doubtful that I'll get a decent amount of sleep tonight. This is the problem with evening Taiji lessons! Home around 9 pm and I should be in bed in an hour, but I can just never get myself sleepy that quickly without sedating myself, which I'm trying not to do...
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Post by: Kirbypowered on June 17, 2013, 07:56:35 pm
Vector - You don't have to be the best at something for it to be worth doing it. I am pretty terrible at most things, but all that really matters is whether I'm satisfied with what I'm doing. If I spend a lot of energy telling myself I'm worthless, I will feel worthless. If I spend a lot of energy finding the things that make me feel important and useful, I will feel important and useful. Does it really matter whether the result is the best possible, as long as you feel good about doing something?

This is actually good advice for me. I think I've thought about this many times before, but it's easy to forget. Thinking about it even makes me feel less unhappy.

Although I managed to calm back down fairly quickly, it upsets me to realize that even when I'm in a good mood, I'm really that close to having a meltdown. I suppose at this point it must be hormones.

I know that feeling only too well. I can have a calm, meditative mood completely snap into rage at the most pointless thing. It tends to disturb me. Cats and this computer are the main triggers for me, doing such minor things as knocking things on the floor
or freezing up for a few minutes.

Anyhow, I'm underway with the tracking of the behaviour. I realize I tend to stay up a bit later than you probably do (though I'm trying to change that some), so I'll have to modify the later lists accordingly, but the first one may or may not be confusing. XP
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Post by: Sappho on June 18, 2013, 08:50:39 am
Yes, of course, modify whatever you need to.

Today is my second day of slacking and not tracking myself. Just too chaotic. Not sure about tomorrow either, since it's the year-end party with parents and I'll be working 11 very chaotic hours with almost no break. I'm ready to cry just thinking about it. Got to make sure I have my valium just in case of emergency.

The good news is, my demo lesson today went excellently. After the lesson the prospective employer sat with me and told me she had absolutely nothing negative to say, she was very impressed, and then went on and on about my skills and talents for a while as I sat there trying to look humble but really wanting to shout YES, YES, I AM REALLY THAT FUCKING GOOD, JUST HIRE ME IMMEDIATELY. Apparently she has a couple more people coming in this week to do demos and she'll have a definite answer on Friday. I'm really praying she picks me. That job would be so wonderful...

In other news, it's 36 fucking degrees outside. That's, like, dangerously hot. And in an hour I meet my teacher in the park for private push hands training. I'm a little afraid of how painful it's going to be training in that heat. Even in the shade it's about 30 degrees. I'll be praying that I don't succumb to heat stroke.

Later:

Uf. You guys. I'm so sleepy. It's 21.17 and I'm super sleepy. And I didn't have any sedatives at all! I'm still in the middle of eating dinner! Tomorrow I get up at 5.30 and work for about 11 hours thanks to the wonderful party we will have with the parents. It's always a sensory nightmare and I'm taking my valium with me in case I need it, but I've been feeling pretty good most of today and I'm going to try to persuade myself that hey, maybe it will be... fun? I get to dress up as an awesome pirate, so, you know, that promises to be pretty good times even if everything else goes horribly wrong.

I wanna read some Children of Dune before bed. I will try, and see if I manage it!

It's really hard to persuade yourself that you should go to bed when the sun is still up. It feels like maybe, I don't know, 7 pm? Maybe? NOT bed time dammit.

Taiji training was good. Some clouds came and kept the sun away for a while which helped a lot. My teacher says I'm doing good. I know I'm messing up a lot, but as he rightfully pointed out, knowing what you're doing wrong is basically all you have to do, along with practicing lots. If you're aware of what you're doing wrong, you'll correct it slowly over time, and you'll get better. Right now I need to work on my STRUCTURE. When we do push hands I gotta remember to keep my head up and not bend forwards or backwards or twist around my waist. Which partly means I need to get a bit stronger so I can resist a little more. He suggested that every morning as soon as I get out of bed, the first thing I should do is 3 sets of 10 pushups. (He calls them pressups since he's from New Zealand, which is adorable. Everything about him is adorable guys. He's all tiny and curly-haired with the cutest accent ever. Also it occurs to me that I'm pretty sleep drunk right now, so be patient with my rambling.) He also said I should do 20 of another exercise whose name I can't remember, where you lean back on a chair with your legs pointed out and lower yourself down and up. And he said if I can find a bar in a convenient place I should also try to do some chin-ups when I can. These are overall strength training exercises which train your body as a whole rather than just a few select muscles like lifting weights.

Anyway, I'm going to make that another experiment. Strength training! He said with confidence that I'll notice a difference within a month, just from this little bit of exercise. So! Current experiments (need to update that first post again): B12 (still taking 1500 mcg per day, not noticing any difference), non-disclosure game (going well so far but I've only spent 7 hours at work since I started and we've been busy), and strength training. I also want to add standing (a taiji exercise that trains your structure) before bed every night. I used to do it and it always helped me sleep after. But lately I always seem to be too tired to do it. I'll try to remember tonight, at least for a few minutes.

Okay guys. That's all I got for now. Go on about your lives! Your homework assignment is to befriend at least one insect (name it, have a short conversation, watch it for a while and see what its hobbies are).
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Post by: Mictlantecuhtli on June 18, 2013, 02:55:08 pm
Okay guys. That's all I got for now. Go on about your lives! Your homework assignment is to befriend at least one insect (name it, have a short conversation, watch it for a while and see what its hobbies are).

Is it odd that every insect I find inside I help it get outside and talk to it? I just don't find it in me to crush the little guys. Seems unfair.

Except spiders.
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Post by: Vector on June 18, 2013, 03:03:42 pm
I have a spider living in my curtain with all her eggs!  She's great :3  I say hello in the mornings.
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Post by: Sappho on June 18, 2013, 03:08:49 pm
As far as I'm concerned, it's perfectly normal to have friendly conversations with insects. And animals, and inanimate objects, and yourself. But then again, I might not be the one to judge what normal is.

I like wall spiders. Tiny bodies, long legs, don't move too fast. They just stay up there in the corner eating mosquitoes for me. Also I like really tiny spiders. Just can't feel threatened by something so cute. But anything with fat and/or hairy legs or a big body, or that moves really fast, freaks me out. On the other hand, I can't bring myself to kill them. It's not their fault I'm afraid of them, and they're really basically harmless to me. So when I see one in my apartment I call the cat over and point to the spider, and he plays with it a while then eats it. (He does the same with moths, but won't touch flies. I guess they must not taste good.)

Once I got a locust in my flat (no idea where a locust came from but that's definitely what it was) and the cat tried to chase it for a while, then seemed to realize how big and strange it was and suddenly got scared of it. I had to cripple it and let the cat torture it for a while once it was helpless. I didn't feel too good about that one. The cat kept looking at me like "what the hell IS this fucking thing?"
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Post by: Pnx on June 18, 2013, 10:13:41 pm
I talk to my dogs quite a bit, they can even sometimes understand what I'm saying, even if what they mostly understand is things like their name, or "want to go out?", or "cheese!"
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Post by: Sappho on June 19, 2013, 05:45:04 am
Well, I was in a good mood for a while, but I'm quickly running out of steam. It's abuot 36 degrees outside (97 F) and we had to be out in the sun for a couple hours, which started getting to me. Then the kids got grouchy and bitchy and started fighting and giving us a lot of shit. Then I overheard one of the other teachers, the lazy one who just doesn't show up to work 1/3 of the time, hardly works at all even when she's here, and is being promoted next year because my boss is batshit crazy, saying how nice it will be with me gone. (I have never said an unkind word to her and I always work my ass off.) So that really pissed me off. Then my beautiful coworker who messes up my emotions was in a pissed off mood, ignoring me and making me feel like I was the one she was mad at (no idea if that's true), which just made me even more irritated and upset. Then I reached into my pocket to update my chart and discovered my little blue pen I love so much had fallen from my pocket sometime when we were outside, probably at the park. I'd run back and get it but it's fucking hot outside and it would take my whole break, and there's no guarantee I'd even find it.

I'm going to be at work at least another 5 hours. Minimum. This is my only break and the day is going to get much more chaotic and shitty from here. My boss, as usual, is running around making things as complicated as they can possibly be, riling up the kids and then ignoring the chaos she leaves, then either chewing us out for not keeping the kids in line or else ignoring them completely and expecting us to do ten other things at the same time as though we didn't already have our hands full.

I'm ready to either punch someone or cry. I didn't double-check this morning whether my valium was still in my bag. I hope so. I really think I might need it. If I don't pass out from heat stroke first.
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Post by: Kirbypowered on June 19, 2013, 09:12:19 am
Summer has always been my least favourite season. Unbearable heat and humidity, unbearable flies, unbearable inability to sleep because of unbearable heat and humidity...not to say I hate it, but it stresses me out and makes me generally unhappy. And it isn't even here yet. >_< What you're going through right now sounds nightmarish indeed. I have a hard enough time dealing with myself on those sorts of days, let alone having to deal with so much else.

On the self tracking charts, how would you like me to send them to you? I've got two days done now, and I can scan those now or wait until I get the whole bunch done, I'm thinking probably seven. I'm feeling a bit over burdened with (imaginary) things right now, so I barely feel up to keeping this tracking going for long, sadly. I really must take some time to sort out my mind.

(I have a secret (shh!) plan to move to Antarctica in the future. You're free to join me if you like. :) )
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Post by: Sappho on June 19, 2013, 12:25:30 pm
Summer has always been my least favourite season. Unbearable heat and humidity, unbearable flies, unbearable inability to sleep because of unbearable heat and humidity...not to say I hate it, but it stresses me out and makes me generally unhappy. And it isn't even here yet. >_< What you're going through right now sounds nightmarish indeed. I have a hard enough time dealing with myself on those sorts of days, let alone having to deal with so much else.

On the self tracking charts, how would you like me to send them to you? I've got two days done now, and I can scan those now or wait until I get the whole bunch done, I'm thinking probably seven. I'm feeling a bit over burdened with (imaginary) things right now, so I barely feel up to keeping this tracking going for long, sadly. I really must take some time to sort out my mind.

(I have a secret (shh!) plan to move to Antarctica in the future. You're free to join me if you like. :) )

As for the charts, you can wait until you have a bunch of them, or whatever's easiest for you. I still haven't found time to enter the ones I've done yet, although this coming weekend looks promising.

I don't hate summer generally. I much prefer "too hot" to "too cold," and I get pretty severe seasonal depression so I need as many hours of sunlight as possible. Especially where I live now, until the beginning of June there had only been a total of 80 hours of sunshine since 1 January. 80 hours in 5 months. That's obscene. I don't like snow or cold, so I'm afraid I won't be joining you in Antarctica. : ) Naturally the heat can be too much sometimes, but all I have to do is wet my hair (assuming I'm not chasing down 20 screaming kids) and I'm ok.

I'm feeling much better now. The party went surprisingly well. I sort of made a decision as the others were starting to set up that I've basically been fired from this job, and my coworker made it clear that she doesn't care I'm going. I've always busted my ass trying to be as helpful as possible and I'm just tired of it. So I put my pirate costume on (I looked sexy as hell and got a lot of compliments, even though the other girl's costume was nicer) and had loads of fun swaggering around being pirate-y. It turns out that you can make just about any unpleasant activity fun if you dress as a pirate during it and try to take over the playground with your bubble-wand-sword. When I saw something that needed doing like refilling the water pitchers or moving stuff, I helped out, but I didn't go out of my way to try to find stuff to help with. the slacker obviously already has me written off as useless (OH the irony) so I might as well live up to that expectation.

I spent a total of 10.5 hours at work today (with a half hour of that being my break). Crazy. I managed to track myself more or less, but some of it is pieced together from memory because I didn't think of it during the party. I did manage to make it through the day in a largely positive mood, and without any medication and hardly any other chemicals. I did have a cup of coffee in the morning, but no other caffeine and no sedatives, not even medunka tea. I'm a little disappointed I had to miss training, but I did do my strength training exercises in the morning and a bit of small training exercises whenever I had a few minutes during the day (I love the looks the kids give me when I start banging my forearms together to strengthen the bones).

I feel the urge to say once more how awesome it is to dress up as a pirate. It gives me confidence I didn't know I was capable of, sort of like nice clothes do for other people I guess. Or like being on stage. I have the opposite of stage fright. Stage confidence? Whatever it's called. I can be shy and nervous and awkward, but stand me just slightly higher than the people around me and give me a musical instrument or a costume and I blow people away.
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Post by: Sappho on June 20, 2013, 03:25:45 pm
The job interview I went on today... That school looked awful. A total dump. Everything looked dirty and it was in the same building as a dentist and a veterinarian. It costs parents 50% more to send their school to this one than my current one (and my current one is fucking expensive). They told me the maximum they would pay me and it's less than the cost of sending one child to the school for a month. I'd be taking a solid 25% pay cut by working there. Which means the owners are lining their pockets with fucking platinum, since the cost of the facility can't possibly be very much. To top it off, the woman who interviewed me looked miserable. She didn't smile once. She said she was impressed with everything I said and appeared ready to hire me on the spot, but then remembered I have to do a demo lesson first. I don't want to work at this place, but if the elementary school doesn't work out I need a backup. So I agreed to do a demo a couple of weeks from now. I pray it doesn't come to that though.

It's getting late and I don't feel sleepy yet. Probably had too much sugar today, sweet frozen stuff to try to stay cool. Today was the hottest day so far. It reached 38 degrees (that's over 100 F) and even now, at 10 pm, it's still 31 (88 F) outside. I have the windows open but it does nothing to cool the place down. But I checked the weather report and it should fall to 28 tomorrow and continue decreasing over the weekend, and next week should be... cold and fucking rainy again. The forecast for most of the week is 18 (64 F). No sun.

Was there ever a time when mild, sunny days actually existed? Or have we invented the idea of them so we don't all commit mass suicide?

Anyway since I can't sleep, now might be a good time to take stock of my current experiments.

Low Sodium Diet: Going horribly. With the shortage of time in my life right now I just can't cook for myself often enough. Rushing from work to interviews and Taiji trainings, I keep finding myself in a position where I either starve or grab a slice of pizza or pre-made sandwich full of salt. Even when I finally get home I'm too exhausted to cook. There's only one more week of work, though, and I hope that once the school year ends I'll be able to do better with this.

Vitamin B12: I'm still taking 1500 mcg every day. I don't think there's more than a week's supply left in the bottle, but I don't feel any different. Glancing at my charts I see regular issues with concentration and memory, and the sleepiness and brain fog are near-constant. Some interesting things have come from these charts, though. For one thing, I am a hell of a lot calmer than I thought I was. I only mark the "calm" box if I am generally relaxed and laid back for the entire hour, and it's checked almost every hour I'm awake every day. So I guess that's a good thing. I am also noticing a pattern in my sleepiness. It seems to spike sometime between early and late afternoon, then I seem to wake up a bit more in the evening (after about 7 pm). Also, I seem to be sleepy even during activities I enjoy, so it's not a problem of motivation.

Cleaning Habits: I know I marked this one as successful but this week I've fallen off the wagon. The apartment is a mess again. In my defense, I think it's mostly the heat doing this, on top of the reduced spare time thanks to interviews and school parties. I honestly feel like I would be cleaning right now if it wasn't just so fucking hot. Hopefully this will improve starting tomorrow.

Non-Disclosure Game: Today wasn't as good as yesterday. I just can't seem to keep a conversation going with this girl without sharing some story or something about myself. I tried many times to start things by asking her about stuff, but she just won't take the bait. I get short, often one-word answers, and then it dies. Small talk can only go so far when you're with someone 6-8 hours per day. I'll keep trying. Suggestions welcome.

Strength Training: I forgot to do the exercises this morning but I did them when I got home from the interview. My arms were still quite tired from yesterday and I had a hard time completing the routine, but with a lot of shaking out my arms between sets I managed it, and it felt good when I finished. That kind of exercise really makes you feel stronger just by doing it, even though your muscles haven't grown yet. I'm optimistic that this will really help.

Now I think tonight I'll have to sedate myself for bed. It's unfortunate but I just can't imagine getting to sleep otherwise. I have to decide now how I'll do that. The obvious choices are sedative tea, alcohol, and cannabis. The tea would take a long time to brew and doesn't always work, so probably not that one this late. Alcohol works pretty well but I only have sweet stuff (rum, whiskey, absinthe, slivovice) so I'm likely to feel somewhat hung over in the morning even if I only have a little. Cannabis might help or it might keep me up even later watching the amazing psychedelic things I see when I close my eyes. Which is fun, but doesn't help the situation. We'll see how it goes. I'm going to turn off the computer now because it's generating heat and probably not helping me sleep. Someone remind me tomorrow that I want to write down some of my recent thoughts on confidence. I keep forgetting. Good night guys.
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Post by: Kirbypowered on June 21, 2013, 08:31:13 am
Ergh, I'm going to find out what in milk I can't handle. Out of cow's milk, goat's milk, soy milk, rice milk, and almond milk, the only kind that doesn't make me mildly to greatly sick afterwards is almond milk. Certainly isn't lactose. Well, maybe a combination of that and something else, but I don't know. Still, I'm happy I've found some type of milk that doesn't make me sick. And it's actually really good.

Coincidentally, I've been wondering if a lack of vitamin B12 was affecting me after reading what you had learned about it about the same time I started drinking it, and the brand I can get has B12 in it, and I can definitely say I've been reporting less brain fog than I expected on the charts. I've notably run out of almond milk for a little while now and the brain fog seems to be cropping up more often.

Anyhow, I think I'll scan the four charts I have today, hopefully before I go to visit my friend. I printed off four more, so I guess I'll be doing eight instead of seven. Maybe you'll get to see some numbers in the euphoria section finally once I get my new laptop. =)

Mild, sunny weather...I'd say we have been getting that here, but apparently right now it's cold enough that my fingers are a little numb...maybe it is just an imaginary idea.

On cleaning habits: I'm going to say that the heat can most certainly stop you from wanting to even think about cleaning. At least for me. The heat (or maybe humidity) just sucks the energy out of me.

Non-Disclosure Game: Uhhh....yeah, no. I'm really terrible at non-personal small talk. I always find myself relating some topic to something that's happened to me. I always thought that was some self centered and egotistical thing about myself, but according to some kind others, it's likely just a part of how we connect with others. Or something like that.

Okay, if I don't get away from this post soon, I never will. Hope you got to sleep okay. I know I have a nightmarish time sleeping when it's hot out, so maybe that could be effecting you too? I suppose it's pretty hard to miss when the heat's keeping me up though, so probably not.
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Post by: Kirbypowered on June 21, 2013, 09:47:27 am
Gah, sorry for double post, in a rush.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Edit: edited informations in, but I can't seem to see any of the pictures. Tried loading the individual pages but they kept timing out. Might be some silly thing with dial up, but if it isn't I can re-upload the images tomorrow.
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Post by: Sappho on June 21, 2013, 11:13:28 am
Hooray, my first non-me test subject! I'll try to take a closer look at your charts over the weekend. I definitely want to enter mine in the computer this weekend and generate some graphs.

Actually I was planning to have a quiet weekend and catch up on cleaning, etc., but big news: I GOT THE JOB! So now I feel obligated to celebrate. There's a free open air international music festival all weekend and I'm heading over there with my friends pretty soon to drink and dance. Which means a hangover tomorrow for sure, so I might not be as productive as I'd like to be. At least the weather is much more comfortable today. Still on the "hot" side, but well within reason, and it'll start cooling down more once the sun goes down.

I've been sleepy all day today. I fell asleep three times and haven't really felt awake all day. I suspect hormones have something to do with this. It's the right time for that. So I'm going to pump myself full of caffeine and hope it keeps me going for a while. If not, I may have to resort to stronger stimulants which need not be named on the internet.

By the way, last night I didn't end up needing a sedative, which is good. I didn't sleep all that well, though, because of the thunderstorms. Hurricane-strength winds, thunder and lightning, everything banging around outside. Not much to be done about that. The sun is shining now though.

I've been keeping track of myself today but I'm not likely to take the sheets to the festival so there'll be a blank during that. My plan is to go for a few hours, drink and have fun, then get home before public transportation from there stops. If I have a really good time, however, I might stay overnight and go home in the morning (my friends will be there all weekend).

As a slight complication, that girl from work will be there tonight. We'll see how things are when we're 1. not at work and 2. drunk. Send happy thoughts, friends.
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Post by: Sappho on June 22, 2013, 05:55:52 am
Things seemed to be going well. I met up with her. She introduced me to her group of friends then the two of us went off alone for a bit to explore the festival. We found the dubstep stage she wanted and danced a bit (well, she danced and I bobbed awkwardly) then went back to her friends. She sat down next to one girl, who said hello to me and that she wanted to meet me because the two of us work together. Then the "friend" gave her a big smooch on the lips. Could have been a friend smooch, but the timing was pretty glaring. Then I said "Ah, so is this your secret girlfriend then?" She just laughed and refused to answer. Then the other girl smooched her a few more times to mark her territory. Then another friend found me and rescued me (and told me she could see very clearly that my coworker is into me and certainly her girlfriend picked up on it too and that's why she started smooching her, to claim her and warn me away). Then I drank an irresponsible amount of beer, and made increasingly irresponsible decisions for the rest of the night, which did not end particularly well.

I think I'm in shock. I can't even process what has happened. I keep alternating between crying and just sort of shutting down.

I might take a few days off here while I nurse my shattered heart. So much for my productive weekend.
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Post by: Sappho on June 23, 2013, 06:37:07 am
Well, I'm still in one piece. I planned to spend yesterday sitting home feeling sorry for myself and crying a lot, probably drinking, but my friends showed up and dragged me back out to the festival, where I ended up having a wonderful time. I saw the girl there from a distance, but she didn't see me and I avoided contact.

Maybe it's the energy from the festival, but my way of dealing with this seems to be changing. (It was suggested to me yesterday that I might be moving through those "stages of loss" and be in the "denial" phase at the moment, so we'll see how that develops.) I still hurt, but it's different. I'm a girl and my initial response to having my heart broken is to want someone to hold me while I cry my eyes out, releasing all that pain. That's how I felt at first. Now I don't feel so "girly" I guess. I just keep imagining what I would say to her. I feel really confident. All this time I've been so shy, playing it safe, not making any overt moves or telling her how I feel because of the risk, especially since we work together. Now I feel like I could just grab her hand and pull her over to me and look her in the eyes and tell her exactly how I feel. I think I'm feeling the kind of confidence that people tend to respond to on that animal level. Women tend to be attracted to jerks because they are confident and strong, and on a deep instinctual level we're programmed to find that attractive. I would never be a jerk, never be aggressive, always be delicate and sensitive, but that doesn't mean I can't be strong and confident too.

That's the thing. I know I'm good enough for her, but I've never known how to show it. Now I feel like I do. Part of it is the Taiji. For the first time in my life I understand how my body moves and works and I know how to move it properly. I wonder if this is how normal people feel.

Anyway I'm still hurting. I'm not stupid. Maybe I could steal her away. Likely not. Likely if I demand an answer from her she'll say it'll never happen. And then probably the crying and such again. But I'm trying to hold on to the feeling of strength as much as I can. I hope it doesn't suddenly leave me. I'm watching Game of Thrones and doing pushups.

So it's all a bit complicated for charts and tables, but still, self-analysis remains valuable.

(Next Morning)

Nope, it appears to have been just a stage. I've been going through some sort of cycle of suddenly seeing her in my mind kissing that girl and it hitting me fresh, that stabbing in my gut, and the crying and feeling sorry for myself, then trying to distract myself, then feeling angry and wronged (and strong and deserving of better treatment), then depression again, but at no point have I felt even the slightest bit of "this is ok and I'm alright." So if those stages of grief are real, I must be going through them in a loop, never getting to that "acceptance" point. I suppose hormones are involved as well. Right now I'm depressed and my heart is pounding because I'm going to have to spend most of the day with her today. My plan is to look at and speak to her as little as possible. If she asks me any question I will give a one-word answer like she always does, or if she asks me something personal, I'll just do what she does and laugh and look away.

I'm increasingly convinced that she has AS like me (or something along those lines, though she's given the occasional hint she might have AS) and probably didn't even realize how I felt, didn't know how to handle the situation. Maybe didn't know that I liked her, although I'm pretty sure she likes me. Maybe doesn't realize she's been flirting with me, or doesn't realize I liked it. The way she "runs away" every time I try to get to know her, looks nervous a lot and looks at the floor when I try to get personal, it doesn't seem like someone who's just playing with me. She reminds me of me how I was a year or two ago, before I developed the confidence I have now. She seemed really nervous and uncertain about me meeting her girlfriend, not sure how to handle it, introduced her as a friend then blushed and looked away when I asked if it's her girlfriend. She seemed oblivious to the fact that her girlfriend was testing me and considered me a threat. Completely oblivious to the fact that it was obvious she likes me, and I like her, and she was introducing me to her very jealous Czech girlfriend. I suppose I really want it to be true that she has AS and it's not her fault and maybe there can be a happy ending after all. But if she does, why didn't she tell me? I told her over a year ago.

Main goal: don't cry or have any kind of breakdown at work. I'm not worried about whether she realizes I'm hurt. In fact, I hope she does, and I hope she realizes it's her fault. But I won't talk to her about it until the end of the week, so if it goes badly we can just part ways and be done with it.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Sappho on June 24, 2013, 10:24:28 am
Work was incredibly painful start to finish. I accomplished my main goal of not crying at work, just barely. In the morning when she arrived she smiled and greeted me with a nickname only she and my mother can get away with using, which cut me deep because this is one of those things I always took to indicate interest in me. I avoided eye contact and barely spoke to her all day. Rather than realizing she had hurt me, she seemed to just take it personally, like I was being a jerk to her for no reason, and by the end of the day she seemed pissed off at me and when I made an attempt to say goodbye she didn't look at me and just mumbled "bye." I'm trying to be angry at her because it hurts less, but mostly I just hurt. Jesus, I knew for years that this was likely to happen eventually, but I just never imagined how much it would hurt.

What is wrong with me that I feel like I should be apologizing to her? Even when she's broken my heart I can't live with myself if I hurt or offend her in even the smallest way.

I think tomorrow I will ask her if she can find time for just a quick drink after I finish work on Friday, so we can talk for a few minutes before she disappears and I maybe never see her again. I know she will probably say no but I have to try. I have to say what I need to say, and if she rejects me, at least I won't have to face her the next day.

My plan for the evening is to skip taiji, probably get drunk on too much whiskey again, and try to force myself to eat, since I haven't been doing enough of that. But hey, at least if I'm not eating enough, I'm not eating sodium, right? HA!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Siquo on June 24, 2013, 10:32:38 am
Just read this: http://www.livestrong.com/article/519867-caffeine-autism/
I'm going to try and quit caffeine, which I've been using in large amounts for many, many years. May be of interest to you.

Also, I read most of your rants, and... sympathize, but have no real constructive thing to say.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Sappho on June 24, 2013, 12:57:19 pm
Interesting article. Doesn't seem to have any very strong conclusions though. Just sort of "caffeine might make certain parts of autism worse, but ADHD better, maybe." I don't use a whole lot of caffeine myself but I can't imagine cutting it out because I love really good tea. I don't mean English tea or anything like that, I mean proper Chinese tea imported by my friends directly from China/Taiwan, super amazing stuff and very strong. In any case, I don't get a lot of hyperactivity. My main problem is lethargy and brain fog. Not that the caffeine ever seems to help with that. So I'll probably pass on that experiment for now, but I'm very interested in what results you get from your own attempt.

Anyway, thanks for your support even though you don't have advice. To be honest I don't usually post this stuff looking for advice, even the rants. It's more that writing it down in this way is helpful for me to organize my thoughts, and sometimes you get something interesting in response from someone which provides good food for thought. I have been meaning to write about my thoughts on advice and confidence, actually, but I'm not quite up to it right now. Soon!

Strangely, I'm suddenly feeling pretty ok. My suspicion is that the majority of the extreme emotional pain I've been feeling (and the dramatic mood swings) are actually the result of hormones more than anything else. It's about time for a change in the hormones, I hope, so maybe things will be a bit different now.

In any case, I've been thinking about the situation intellectually since I've been home and I realized something strangely comforting: a huge number of things in my life are about to change. I'm leaving this job, moving to a new one, and spending my time with an entirely new group of people. I'm going to spend a month doing Taiji in the park all day every day. And I've made massive changes to myself lately which are starting to feel permanent (or as permanent as anything can be when you're human). No matter what happens with this girl, everything is in flux right now and I will probably adapt a lot faster than I expect. My relationship with her is about to change no matter what, because we will no longer be working together. Sadly it seems our relationship might cease to exist entirely. Or it could go completely in the opposite direction. I won't know until I talk to her, assuming she lets me. If I lose her altogether, it will hurt, but I bet it won't hurt for more than about a week before I'll be so distracted with everything else that I start moving on.

I'm still nervous and I still really hope something positive happens. I'm afraid to hope though.

EDIT: Here's one of the bands who was playing at the festival this weekend (Citizens!). They were so ridiculous, but the music was so fun, I really enjoyed them. Here's a song called "Girlfriend" which feels very appropriate for the current situation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSEFUJIWR5k
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Sappho on June 25, 2013, 12:37:41 pm
It's been another very up and down day. I had to run out of the classroom once to go hide in the toilet to cry. I did get back into tracking myself though, and I got my apartment back to about 90% clean, so there's that at least.

I'm spending most of my energy fantasizing about all the different ways I could win her. They range from the whole "her having a girlfriend" thing being a silly misunderstanding, to me seeing the girlfriend abusing her and using my Taiji moves to beat the shit out of her and save the day, with all manner of twists and turns along the way. I should write a damned choose your own adventure book. In fact, I may. Might be cathartic...

(later)

A thought occurs. Possibly a very important one. I have a strong tendency toward black-and-white thinking and have a very obsessive personality (for proof, look no further than this thread). I tend to either be head over heels in love with someone (or the friendship equivalent of the same) or hate them (or be completely indifferent to them). The idea that I have a certain feeling about someone (or something) lodges itself in my brain and alternatives are automatically sort of deleted from the list of possibilities. If I'm "in love," it becomes incredibly difficult to dial it back to just a friendship level of feeling - I have managed it only twice that I can think of, and it was a very long and painful process.

But it IS possible. Maybe instead of feeling like I need to go "all or nothing" with this girl, I should take a step back and consider that we *could* actually be "just friends." If I pull her aside and just spill all my feelings at once, either I'll win her over or lose her. If she doesn't have feelings for me, she's going to be chased away by such a strong confession. Maybe, instead of that, I should just tell her that I think she's very beautiful and I regret that I never got a chance to take her out and properly get to know her better. I still might not get a good reaction, but it gives me better odds than telling her I'm head over heels in love with her, and leaves me some room and some time to consider the possibilities.

And I may never see her again after we stop working together, but if that's going to happen, it's going to happen anyway.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Kirbypowered on June 27, 2013, 10:13:18 am
Spoiler: Charts (click to show/hide)

Dang it, I'm really sorry for taking so long with these this time. I've been a little busy finishing up preparations for school, and having a fancy new laptop is a little distracting too.

I hope you're doing okay. I kind of feel similar to how Siquo maybe feels (probably not though). More often than not, when someone's feeling like crap and tells me all about it, the most I can do a lot of the time is just listen. I used to feel pretty useless because of this, but I realize that part of this is that I don't want to just say things like "I'm sorry to hear that," or "that's terrible," or something equally meaningless and pointless. If I'm going to say anything, I'd like for it to be constructive, thoughtful, maybe even helpful. If not, maybe just listening and not reacting negatively towards a person and their problems will help them see that there problem isn't so silly or stupid as they might have gotten themselves to think. At least, I hope it helps some way like that.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Sappho on June 27, 2013, 02:55:15 pm
Thanks for the charts, Kirbypowered, and don't worry about the time. I've been at this for weeks and I still haven't found time to enter mine into the computer.

One more day of work and then this job is finally over. And there will only be 8 kids tomorrow (out of 20). I should survive it ok.

Spent the last two evenings crafting little handmade hardcover memory notebooks for my coworkers out of scrap paper from work, as a goodbye present. They take ages to make but I couldn't get any sleep until I had finished them. Tonight I baked banana bread, so I'll bring that to share as well.

I think I'm doing okay generally. My view on this girl has shifted, which is necessary and probably a very good sign. I'm noticing how very IMperfect she is. I'm finally growing emotionally aware of what I sort of already knew logically: she's never been perfect, or even "everything I want" as I felt. She's just physically my idea of perfection, and we share a few traits that no one else has ever understood before. As a result, I became infatuated with her from the start, imagining a relationship with her that caused me intense pain every time it didn't coincide with reality (which was often). Princess Bubblegum does a damned fine job of explaining it in this here episode of Adventure Time, which everyone should watch anyway because, Adventure Time: http://www.watchcartoononline.com/adventure-time-season-5-episode-21-the-suitor

In fact, I'm reconsidering my assessment that she might have AS. Of course I would look for traits of AS in someone because I think about it all the time. But various qualities of hers could just as easily be ascribed to her being a sociopath.

-She is often quiet and withdrawn and ignores other people. AS: difficulty processing, being overwhelmed, uncertainty about a social situation. Psychopathy: doesn't care about anyone and is pointedly ignoring us because she wants us to fuck off, possibly she's fantasizing about taking revenge on us for boring or annoying her.
-She has enthusiastic conversations about topics she enjoys but goes cold and ignores someone the moment they look unhappy and NEVER offers anyone a work of comfort or asks them if they're ok. AS: ranting about obsessions but being unsure how to react to someone not looking happy, perhaps had bad reactions to trying (inappropriately) to help/comfort people in the past. Psychopathy: uses people for conversation as long as she is getting something out of it but has no empathy for others and feels no desire to comfort or help anyone.
-She seems annoyed or angry whenever someone tries to share something they're upset about, avoiding eye contact and not responding. AS: either she doesn't understand the other person's situation, or why they're sharing it with her, or doesn't know what's expected of her. Or, her apparent negative reaction is actually an expression of distress (I am often told my facial expression doesn't match how I really feel). Psychopathy: she really doesn't care, has no empathy at all, finds having to listen to other people's problems annoying or irritating.
-She regularly gets suddenly upset at something I say, accusing me of "showing off" my intellect and trying to make her feel stupid. AS: she misinterprets my intentions. Psychopathy: she feels like she is better than anyone else and resents any indication of superiority of any kind in another person.
-Her appearance is always immaculate. She says she finds her clothes at secondhand stores and wears the same pants nearly every day, but always looks and smells absolutely perfect. Says she washes her clothes every day, and I regularly see her putting antibacterial gel on her hands. AS: obsession with order, using a precise system to keep herself looking a way she knows is attractive without having to really consider her appearance, possible OCD. Psychopathy: she has cultivated an image that works to her advantage - she's beautiful, smells great, but dresses in a "hippie" sort of way, so nearly everyone finds her attractive. Apparent germ phobia might even indicate a simple disgust with contact with other people.
-She has mentioned to me that she understands my dislike of public transport and knows the feeling of bursting into tears on the way home just from sensory overload. AS: sensory overload and meltdowns. Psychopathy: she made up the story to get something from me or play with my head.
-She flirts with me and never mentions having a girlfriend, and dodges personal questions, leading to my emotional upheaval as I don't understand the situation: AS: she doesn't know what's appropriate to share, doesn't realize she's flirting with me, doesn't realize I'm attracted to her. Psychopathy: she's playing a game, which is very easy to do with me since I don't spot insincerity.
-All week she has been fairly cold towards me, even when I made an effort to be friendly and hide my pain, but is still friendly with other coworkers. AS: my behavior has changed and confused her, she doesn't understand what has happened, she doesn't know how to interact with me now, or she's just distracted by her new girlfriend and no longer interested in interacting with me. Psychopathy: she's well aware of what happened and either the game isn't fun anymore or she has already "won" by breaking my heart, possibly as revenge for me irritating her with my intellect and/or problems in the past.

I could go on. The point is, unless she actually shares something of herself with me and lets me get to know her, I can never hope to understand her intentions or have any real idea of who she is. It doesn't seem likely that I'll see her again after work ends. She just doesn't seem interested in speaking to me at all anymore. I've decided that I probably will not say anything to her about my feelings after all. I've told her enough times that she's beautiful, but she's never said anything of the kind to me. When she was upset about not getting a vacation she wanted, she accepted my hugs and comfort, but when I was in a similar situation and said I wanted to go home and cry she shrugged and said that sounded like a good idea. I've invited her to many different parties and nights out over the years but she's never accepted, except to my birthday party, which she then didn't show up to. If I took her actions and personality and transferred them to another person, one I didn't find so incredibly physically attractive, I would probably not like her very much. I can't believe it's taken this long for that to sink in.

I'll tell her I'd like to keep in touch and make one or two attempts over the summer to contact her. After all, if she does turn out to be like me, maybe even with AS, and this is all a misunderstanding, there could still be something there. But I've put in enough effort at this point. Even if it does turn out that her intentions are good, this is a lot of shit to go through to even get to know someone just a little bit, and I don't want to start a relationship with someone that would be like that all the time.

As for the stages of grief, I'm doubtful about the theory. For sure I went through many phases, and experienced each of the "stages," but many were repeated several times, I went in circles, up and down, better then worse... No rhyme or reason to it, really. Maybe other people react differently.

I'm exhausted now. Been falling asleep all day. All week, actually. As my stress levels rise, I get sleepier (consistent with narcolepsy, still would really like to get some kind of diagnosis). When I get home and am able to go to bed, though, I can relax, my stress levels decrease, and then I lie awake unable to sleep (not really consistent with narcolepsy but I'm not sure what other explanation there might be).

Question: has anyone else ever had an experience, either firsthand or heard about from someone else, where stress causes extreme sleepiness or even "sleep attacks" in the middle of tasks, yet at night sleep was not easy to come by? Any explanations other than narcolepsy? I'm very curious about this.

I should go to bed, I guess. Tomorrow will be the last day of this life, then I can finally get some real rest and look forward to all the huge changes my life is bringing.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Shakerag on June 27, 2013, 03:58:29 pm
Question: has anyone else ever had an experience, either firsthand or heard about from someone else, where stress causes extreme sleepiness or even "sleep attacks" in the middle of tasks
Boy, can I tell y-
yet at night sleep was not easy to come by?
Oh.
Any explanations other than narcolepsy?
Damn.  Nevermind.

Well, the only thing that comes to mind would be cataplexy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataplexy), but without the (frequently) associated narcolepsy. 
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Sappho on June 28, 2013, 12:04:28 am
Thanks for the response, Shakerag. I believe I do get cataplexy sometimes (not severe enough to fall down but I definitely get considerably weaker when stressed and blurry vision), but I don't think cataplexy causes you to actually fall asleep.

Anyway, the only theory I have now that seems like it could be possible is narcolepsy combined with severe anxiety issues (or possibly obsession-only OCD, a condition a friend of mine has where whenever he's "at rest" his mind starts producing horrible images that torture him and keep him from getting any rest). When I'm stressed and my senses are overloaded during the day, it triggers narcolepsy - cataplexy and/or sleep attacks. But when I'm away from sensory stimulus, trying to sleep in my own bed, my mind gets hyperactive and I get anxiety severe enough to prevent sleep. There is definitely a difference between immediate stress based on my environment, and anxiety produced from my own mind. Really it's not insomnia at night. My body wants to sleep and I constantly start nodding off. But whenever I start to fall asleep, either I start to feel a dream start or I feel myself drifting off and something kicks me awake. Sometimes it's that myoclonic jerk, where you feel like you're falling and wake up, but more often it's an image of something upsetting, like a nightmare sort of deal, either physically upsetting (violence) or emotionally upsetting (the girl I love kissing her girlfriend). I jerk back awake with my heart pounding. It's been this way since I was 5 years old.

I keep holding on to the idea of narcolepsy because aside from the sleep attacks and possible cataplexy, I get seemingly constant dreams (even if I only fall asleep for a second I have a dream, and no matter when I wake up it's in the middle of a dream), always still exhausted when I wake up no matter how long I slept for, wake up every couple of hours (from a dream), sleep paralysis once every couple of months or so, and extremely strong hypnogogic hallucinations (vivid images and sounds when I'm still conscious). That's pretty much all the symptoms. I think it makes more sense that I have narcolepsy plus something else affecting my ability to fall asleep at night than a completely different condition that explains all of that.

One of my goals over the summer will have to be to find some way to get a proper evaluation of my sleep issues. No amount of theorizing on my own will ever be able to figure this one out. I've been at it for years. I just hesitate to see doctors because of so many bad experiences and misdiagnoses. Most doctors ask you a list of questions without ever letting you add your own input. They think that if they haven't thought of it, it must not be relevant, and they're so annoyed with people using the internet to self-diagnose that they immediately discard any suggestions made by the patient, even well-informed and reasonable ones. Before I got my AS diagnosis I was told I had depersonalization disorder, OCD, fibromyalgia, chronic depression, insomnia, hypersomnia, and most of all, hypochondria. If they had just let me give them a *list* of what was wrong instead of going through questionnaires and waving away any suggestions by me, I'd have gotten the right diagnosis of AS when I was a kid and suffered a lot less.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Sappho on June 28, 2013, 05:47:24 am
So this is a good one. At work today (last day) a coworker gave us all little tokens that are supposed to bring you love. The girl I've been obsessing over said good, maybe she'll finally find somebody. I did a double-take and said I thought she already had. She seemed confused that I would think that. What about the girl she was kissing? SO? she replied. You never kiss your friends? Flabbergasted, I pointed out that I had DIRECTLY ASKED her if that was her girlfriend and she had giggled and blushed and looked away, which I took to mean YES. She rolled her eyes, also blushing a little, and said this girlfriend is expecting a baby with her boyfriend of 8 years, so no.

She's single.

My first reaction was "I'm an idiot." But no. No, no I'm not. I lack the ability to read situations in a normal way so I ask questions directly and get advice from other people. She didn't answer my question, and when I described the situation my friends agreed that it sounded like the girl was marking her territory. So I didn't jump to an insane conclusion. I did my due diligence and she misled me.

Furthermore, watching her today, she's NOT a sociopath. She's sad about not seeing the kids for a month. Hugging them all and trying (and not entirely succeeding) not to cry. Someone brought in a kitten and she nearly cried and wanted to snuggle it the most. And she's clearly nervous some of the time. Add the fact that she has read several books about AS and once I half-jokingly said "maybe you have aspergers too" and she got a funny look on her face and half-jokingly said "uh, yeah. Maybe," and it seems quite likely that she is either on the spectrum or at least has a lot of the traits.

Now, to examine the facts again with this new information. Whether she has AS or not, I don't always express myself well, so she quite likely is not aware of how I feel about her. The friend who saw us together said she definitely saw some sparks - that she really did seem into me and a shy about it. She wanted to sit with her friends, including this one girl, who told me she wanted to meet me, since she knew we worked together. I took this to mean she had mentioned me and the girl wanted to check me out, mark her territory, and see if I was a threat. In fact, it must mean that 1. "my" girl has mentioned me often enough to make her friends curious and 2. she has talked about me in such a way that it makes her friends interested in meeting me. Maybe, like me, she had asked her friends to help her figure out if I like her. There are other possible explanations, but this is certainly a reasonable guess.

Then her friend smooched her. I asked if this was her secret girlfriend and she blushed furiously, giggled nervously, and looked away. Then she started talking to the other girl in Czech while I started to panic, and the girl kissed her a few more times (all little "friend" peck kisses, but on the lips and a lot more than I normally see "just friends" giving). I added it all up to them being a couple and frantically texted my friend to come rescue me. When she arrived, we took the blanket I had set down for us and I said I had to rush off to find my other friends. I didn't contact her again over the weekend. It might have seemed like I was just abandoning her without warning or apparent reason and ignored her after that.

On Monday she came in with a big smile and greeted me with a cute nickname that only she and my mother ever get away with. I grunted a response, refused to make eye contact, and was visibly miserable all day. She grew increasingly distant and by the end of the day seemed angry with me. I must have seemed like a real bitch, again for no apparent reason. I grew slowly less bitchy over the course of the week as I slowly came to terms with what I thought the situation was, and she slowly warmed back up to me as well.

TMI girl stuff warning for the fellas (sorry, but this stuff is painfully relevant to us ladies): Yesterday I saw her borrowing a feminine hygiene product from someone. If you boys aren't aware, girls only need to borrow one when they unexpectedly start their period, otherwise they will already have them. This indicates that she had PMS for a week or so before yesterday, which would cause excess emotionality and mood swings in her just as much as it has been doing to me.

I did say that everything in my life was going to change starting today. I didn't expect the change to be this. I've decided to keep building up my confidence (I'm doing well so far) and finally just make a move. I will be less shy and more direct now that I know for sure that she's available and have a strong suspicion that she does, in fact, have feelings for me too. She's obviously not going to make a move, whether she's interested or not. It's on me.

Final thought before I end my break. When I'm in love, I see someone as being far more perfect than they really are. I thouht (foolishly, now that I really consider it) that having my heart broken meant I would finally see things as they really were, but actually I was still doing the same thing, just in the opposite direction. Instead of painting her as perfect, I painted her as horrible, trying to persuade myself that she wasn't worth hurting over. The final conclusion is that we can never trust our own perceptions, especially where emotions are involved. Not sure what to do with that conclusion.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Shakerag on June 28, 2013, 09:31:12 am
TMI girl stuff warning for the fellas (sorry, but this stuff is painfully relevant to us ladies): Yesterday I saw her borrowing a feminine hygiene product from someone. If you boys aren't aware, girls only need to borrow one when they unexpectedly start their period, otherwise they will already have them. This indicates that she had PMS for a week or so before yesterday, which would cause excess emotionality and mood swings in her just as much as it has been doing to me.
OH NOES!  I have read about a woman talking about menstruation!  Suddenly I am less of a man!  My man cred is diminishing!  My testosterone is dropping!  Now I have an urge to shop for curtains and read Martha Stewart Living!  Woe is me!

Seriously  -_-
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Skyrunner on June 28, 2013, 11:14:16 am
Just to note I'm still here. :v
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: RedKing on June 28, 2013, 11:58:35 am
*nethugs Sappho*

Sounds sorta like where I was several months ago -- massive upheaval and change in my life. It's terrifying and exhausting, but it can also be strangely liberating. Keep your spirits up -- you're a good person.  :)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Sappho on June 28, 2013, 12:05:33 pm
TMI girl stuff warning for the fellas (sorry, but this stuff is painfully relevant to us ladies): Yesterday I saw her borrowing a feminine hygiene product from someone. If you boys aren't aware, girls only need to borrow one when they unexpectedly start their period, otherwise they will already have them. This indicates that she had PMS for a week or so before yesterday, which would cause excess emotionality and mood swings in her just as much as it has been doing to me.
OH NOES!  I have read about a woman talking about menstruation!  Suddenly I am less of a man!  My man cred is diminishing!  My testosterone is dropping!  Now I have an urge to shop for curtains and read Martha Stewart Living!  Woe is me!

Seriously  -_-

You'd be surprised how many guys have precisely this reaction.

Thanks for the support everyone. I'm torn now over whether this is a good thing. I was sort of starting to accept the situation and move on. Now I'm right back where I started, probably about to get my heart broken all over again. We had this conversation just before she left today.

Me: When does your class finish tomorrow?
Her: 6.
Me: Meet me for a drink after.
Her: (hesitation, slight embarrassment) Maybe.
Me: Not maybe. Meet me for a drink. One drink. Just me and you, away from work.
Her: Well I can't promise. We'll be outside all day and it might be raining, I might need to go home immediately to change.
Me: Sunday then. Or Monday.
Her: Monday I leave Prague. (she'll be gone probably the whole month)
Me: Well then you have to meet me this weekend. You said you'd come to my birthday party and you didn't - you owe me one. (grin)
Her: Okay, well... Maybe.

At first it seemed like a "probably" kind of maybe, but then a few minutes later she hugged me to say goodbye and said "have a good July, see you at the summer camp in August," which I corrected to "No, you mean see you tomorrow." She looked embarrassed again and said "maybe" one more time.

I very highly doubt she'll actually meet me tomorrow. But having experienced how it feels to have missed my chance, I'm not going to let it go this time. Even if I have to call her on the phone and give her a pre-teen-style "do you like me yes or no" ultimatum, I'm getting my answers this weekend.

Now to go meet a real live friend for dinner and drinks and rehash all these thoughts once more, this time out loud. One last thing:

I'M ON VACATION! YAAAAYYYYYY!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Shakerag on June 28, 2013, 12:12:34 pm
You'd be surprised how many guys have precisely this reaction.
Sadly, no, I likely wouldn't be surprised. 

Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Siquo on June 28, 2013, 02:35:50 pm
You'd be surprised how many guys have precisely this reaction.
Sadly, no, I likely wouldn't be surprised.
Relevant username?


More on topic: Day 4 without caffeine. Slightly less tired now during the day, and actually got some work done at work. Did heat half a bag of M&Ms just now. Chocolate is harder to quit than coffee...
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Shakerag on June 28, 2013, 03:24:28 pm
You'd be surprised how many guys have precisely this reaction.
Sadly, no, I likely wouldn't be surprised.
Relevant username?
No. (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=shake+rag+street+mineral+point+wi&ie=UTF-8&ei=hvDNUdypGJCFyQHo54CYCw&sqi=2&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Reudh on June 28, 2013, 09:48:33 pm
You'd be surprised how many guys have precisely this reaction.
Sadly, no, I likely wouldn't be surprised.

Most guys I know don't. Then again, I'm in a medical course, so we view it for what it is: a bodily function and nothing more.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Sappho on June 30, 2013, 06:24:01 am
It's strange to be on vacation. I keep forgetting that I don't have to go to work for the next month.

To my surprise, that girl did actually meet me yesterday. She was with another of her friends (a married woman with kids, no worries there). I felt a bit awkward and they mostly spoke to each other in Czech about things I didn't understand very well. I got the impression that she wanted her friend there to keep herself in her comfort zone, rather than being alone with me (or out with some of my friends, as I had always invited her before). She did talk to me a bit though and the three of us did have some good laughs and nice conversation. Plus she kept thinking of new Czech words to teach me, which is very useful. I ended up drinking more than I should have (I HAVE to learn to drink slower) and she was clearly being careful not to drink too much, but I don't think I made too much of a fool of myself. Finally she decided to go home, and her friend as well. I told her I'd like to see her again soon but she said she probably won't have any time. She'll be in the city 2 more days then she's going to her family's house in the country, then on a trip to Portugal with a friend (a guy she made a point of mentioning is gay). I probably won't see her again until August.

I didn't feel the need to make any grand confessions. She was clearly fine with hanging out with me, away from work, as long as she had someone there to keep her comfortable. (She even flirted with me just a little bit and at one point she touched my shoulder, something she doesn't normally do.) Maybe this is the real reason she never wanted to spend time with me before; she needs that comfort zone. At first I was disappointed that we couldn't be alone together, but actually it turned out to be an advantage. She talked about and shared things with her friend that I don't think she would normally have told me about, if it was just the two of us. Maybe this is okay for now. I won't see her for a bit, but she won't be getting into a relationship during this time (with her family and her gay friend). And she promised to keep in close touch via email. If she's willing to spend time with me and let me get to know her in the context of being with her friends, I can keep a relationship with her, flirt but not be pushy, and hopefully eventually get my answers without getting my heart smashed to pieces. Given what I know about her now, I think pushing her at all (even just confronting her and demanding to know if she likes me) will just make her pull away from me entirely. She seems a bit... skittish. : )

I'm nursing my hangover now but I have all my charts organized and ready to put into the computer today. I also have some plans for some more projects, now that I'll have some time. I want to make sure I don't get lazy and depressed during the summer. I must make myself to go Taiji every day (or at least most days) and in my spare time I can't just sit around playing video games (though I did just buy the current Humble Bundle and I will allow myself a specific amount of gaming time each day, details to be decided later). I will create plenty of art, and I will finally start writing a book. Plenty to do, got to keep busy and productive and happy.

Question for you all: I need to create some graphs and charts with this data. I have specific ideas about how I want it to look, but I'm not sure how to create it (other than drawing them by hand). I know Excel creates graphs and charts, but I don't know how powerful it is. How well can I actually customize these graphs? Can I take data from different workbooks and add them to the same graph? Or if it's not so good, can someone recommend a program for generating graphs using lots of data?
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Pnx on June 30, 2013, 11:11:01 am
Excel is typically pretty good with graphs and charts if you know how to set it up correctly. It can sometimes be a bit tricky to get it exactly how you want it though.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Sappho on July 01, 2013, 01:22:28 am
Whoa... *groan* Hormones finally broke, which is code for "after over a week of expectation, I finally got my damned period." I think the periods of PMS are getting longer and more difficult over time. I've got to start keeping very careful track of when I start to feel "hormonal" and how long of a wait it is from then to the breaking point. This time I'm sure it was at least 2 weeks, with the second week being nightmarish in terms of emotions and physical issues (including sleep).

Yesterday around 6 pm I felt like I needed a nap. Fair enough, since I hadn't slept much the night before and I was still hung over. I laid down and passed out almost immediately. I vaguely remember waking up several times from increasingly strange and unpleasant dreams, then at 3.30 I woke up enough that I needed to go to the bathroom. I was awake for about another hour, then fell back asleep and didn't wake back up until 8. Now I've been up for 20 minutes but I still feel like I haven't slept at all. I'd crawl back into bed and let my body do its thing (the first day is always incredibly painful and draining), but I have to go get a temporary visa extension, since they still haven't approved my long-stay permit extension yet, which will take at least a few hours and includes a half-hour bus ride there and back...
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Siquo on July 01, 2013, 03:13:50 am
How well can I actually customize these graphs? Can I take data from different workbooks and add them to the same graph? Or if it's not so good, can someone recommend a program for generating graphs using lots of data?
Yes, it can. Unless you're doing large amounts of data (>50.000 rows) or science-level statistics you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Sappho on July 01, 2013, 12:16:05 pm
OK I'll do my best with Excel then.

Been in bed for most of today. Did go to get my visa, which was a nightmare experience for various reasons that I don't feel the need to go into. I've got quite a nasty-sounding cough and some chest pain, but I'm not coughing anything up just yet, so I'm hoping if I rest up it'll get better quickly. I suppose I should have known I was getting sick when I slept for about 14 hours with so few interruptions. It's interesting, actually. There seems to be a very high percentage of teachers who, immediately after the school year ends, develop problems in their lungs: chest colds, bronchitis, even pneumonia. Other illnesses are common, too, but I know at least three other people (from different schools, who I haven't seen in person lately) who have chest colds or bronchitis. Non-teacher friends all seem fine. We all say that the stress of the final weeks made us sick, and we were just "holding on" to get through the end of the year before we were finally able to relax and "allow" ourselves to get sick finally. I wonder if that's really the truth. Seems to happen too often for it to be a coincidence. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Siquo on July 01, 2013, 04:00:25 pm
The stress keeps you going, but it's taxing on your body. Relaxing allows you to stop and fight the disease. It kind of makes evolutionary sense; No point in coughing all the time if you're outrunning lions, coughing can wait. There's also the retirement-heart attack: The year you retire, you have 40% more chance of a heart attack.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 02, 2013, 07:47:43 am
Taiji was nice this morning, but also quite taxing. 4 hours is a long time to focus on any one task, especially something physical. Not decided if I'll go to the afternoon session or just take a rest (I'm still coughing).

I am finally entering my data into the computer. It's a lot of work - I have about a month of sheets. So far I've only looked at the drowsiness measurements. I discarded the first few charts (the ones without a numerical value describing intensity). Crossed out columns on each sheet were left blank (Excel automatically ignores these, which is good). 0 = not sleepy, 1 = tired, 2 = very tired / want to sleep / heavy limbs, 3 = hardly able to stay awake / sleep attack. Here is the raw data:

(http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l540/meganleb/DrowsTable_zpsa7ff25c0.gif)

Here is the average value for each hour plotted. There are clear trends here. First of all, I am always very drowsy when I wake up, never feeling rested or awake. Second, there are several jumps in my average sleepiness: late morning / lunchtime, around 5 pm, around 7 pm, and before bed. At no time is my average drowsiness lower than 1, indicating excessive daytime sleepiness.

(http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l540/meganleb/DrowsAvg_zps3d2df9f7.gif)

Here I have plotted the average drowsiness on sunny vs rainy days. It appears that I am, on average, less sleepy when it's sunny.

(http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l540/meganleb/DrowsAvgWeather_zps62c036ac.gif)

And finally, average drowsiness on hot vs cold days. There doesn't appear to be much correlation to temperature.

(http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l540/meganleb/DrowsAvgTemp_zps9c0d1dba.gif)

I'll take a break from this for now. I will probably do brain fog next, followed by anxiety/panic. Maybe later today.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Stages of Grief?]
Post by: Kirbypowered on July 02, 2013, 03:32:35 pm
I know Excel creates graphs and charts, but I don't know how powerful it is.
Hehe, this reminds me of a 7 Day Roguelike I played a little while ago made entirely in Excel, complete with most everything you'd find in your usual roguelike (even an inventory screen). =P Pretty fun stuff.

Seeing you're data there, I realize I never put the daily weather in my own charts, that I can remember. Sorry about that. However, I will note that I don't feel less happy on rainy days compared to sunny, and often I find myself more happy on them. I recall being drowsy on both sunny and rainy days, so that's...something. Honestly, I kind of miss the daily tracking now...might start doing that again.

Recently realized that I've almost entirely stopped drinking pop (which was once a daily thing for me), notably meaning that I've pretty much stopped consuming caffeine. Interesting how easy it feels, despite being pretty much addicted to it for most of middle and high school. I can barely stand a single can nowadays.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 04, 2013, 03:36:03 pm
Kirbypowered: No worries about the weather. I don't think I ever requested that information. I wrote it on all mine because I wanted to see if my moods correlated with weather. You're welcome to take more notes, of course. I'll compare your data to mine soon, but the more I have, the more accurate it will be.

Sorry for the break in posts. I'm in a strange sort of place at the moment, a bit of a limbo state I suppose, adjusting to the summer schedule. Only a few days into the month and I'm already having a hard time remembering what day of the week it is. I'm getting up early each morning and going to Taiji training (from 8:00 until 11:30), but I haven't been going to the afternoon sessions (from 16:00 until 19:00) because I've been too exhausted. Make no mistake, however relaxing Taiji is, 3.5 hours of nonstop training is incredibly draining. It's good, though. I'm learning a new form! I'm very pleased. I hope I'll get used to the schedule soon and go to the afternoon sessions at least sometimes. Yesterday I also got a massage, which was much-needed. A good way to begin my new, more relaxed lifestyle!

In the afternoons I'm having a motivation problem. The weather is nice and I have plenty of time, but I lack focus. I'm not used to having this much time and my instinct is to use my (formerly scarce) free time to just relax. I need to get used to it, though, because even when the next school year starts, I'll still have loads of spare time. At the moment I'm wasting most of it watching films and TV shows and playing video games. I have been reading more than before, but not as much as I could, and I'm not really going out except for training. Today I did manage to start a painting, which I got about 50% done. But I feel I lack motivating short-term goals at the moment.

I really want to write a book. I've been discussing it with several people and I think it's time I took all my observations about myself and others and did something useful with them. I want to write a book about living with asperger syndrome including descriptions and explanations of what it's like as well as advice for how to improve social skills and live independently. There's such a lack of information out there for adults and I really feel I have the skills to fill that niche. But I need to get started on it, and I'm a bit paralyzed. I need some way of organizing and motivating myself. My goal for tomorrow will be to figure out a system for writing, and hopefully to start the writing process.

I haven't been tracking myself on the charts for the past few days. I definitely won't have a chance to do it during trainings. I need to focus on what I'm doing, and most of the time I don't even know what time it is. I'm not sure if I'll do it the rest of the time, or if I'll just take a break for a while and focus on other things. Maybe I'll wait until the end of summer and start tracking myself again when I start my new job. It will make an interesting comparison.

I'm drinking absinthe now, which is probably a bad idea. It'll keep me awake. I need to get to bed! Another early morning tomorrow...

One thing worth noting: I have not been taking any naps this week. I haven't felt the need. It seems my sudden sleepiness is really directly tied to stress, which I haven't been feeling much of now that I'm on vacation. On the other hand, I have still been generally tired and foggy all the time. Even when I have energy, it's restless energy, and I can't seem to focus it. Brain fog is definitely not improving even with the removal of stress, which worries me. Maybe it's finally time to see a doctor. I certainly have time now.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: LordBucket on July 04, 2013, 06:07:02 pm
Something to possibly try:

I once went three days eating exclusively BBQd meat and BBQ sauce. Chicken, turkey and...something else, might have been pig. I don't recall. No beef. Beef sometimes give me headaches. Anyway, for those three days my whole body vibrated with energy. I was happy, energetic, and I felt...clean.

I'm not sure whether it would be a good idea to do it long term, but for those three days I felt like a car used to having swamp muck mixed with the gas, suddenly running on pure gasoline for the first time.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Siquo on July 05, 2013, 07:08:53 am
Not drinking caffeine for a week:
Results: Total failure. Felt mostly tired, perhaps a bit less agitated but not much. Could not perform adequately at work.

So I've decided to take up caffeine again, but maybe in smaller quantities.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 10, 2013, 02:13:48 pm
It seems my summer schedule is not very conducive to self-research. I still have not tracked anything. The good news is I'm eating almost no salt now. I'm not adding any salt to the food I cook. I have eaten in restaurants a few times, but aside from that my sodium intake is extremely low.

I have finished the bottle of B12 pills. I don't feel any improvement whatsoever, so I guess I can cross that possibility off the list. I am trying to persuade myself to go see a doctor on one of my free days. I'm stalling because I'm not sure how useful it will be. The only doctor I can see using my insurance is more like an emergency room kind of deal than a personal physician. It's the kind of place you go to get a doctor's note so you can miss work without penalty. I went there once with a terrible flu and all they did was ask me about my symptoms, look in my throat, and then write me a bunch of prescriptions for antibiotics, decongestants, and expectorants. Not the type of doctor to go to for real assistance. My only hope, I guess, would be that they could at least refer me to someone who might help.

The brain fog is just as bad as ever, perhaps worse. I'm getting loads of exercise but my overall energy levels have not risen at all. Today I didn't go to training just because I felt too lethargic and couldn't get myself out the door. I did some reading and watched a couple of movies, but didn't accomplish nearly as much as I'd hoped to with all the free time. Tomorrow I will go to training for sure.

I am noticing that sometimes I feel quite happy for no apparent reason, which is nice. On the other hand, I still feel depressed quite often, even without hormones, and even though I spend most of my time training with a group of really excellent people who make me laugh a lot.

I have made three notable accomplishments this week. The first was making friends with the sword. I've been unable to learn sword form in my taiji training because of sensory issues trying to hold the sword and learn the proper movements. I borrowed a practice sword from my teacher for two days and spent a few hours playing with it and now it feels comfortable in my hand. I should be able to learn the form now.

The second accomplishment is finishing this painting: http://airavj.tumblr.com/post/54921006313/the-things-i-see-watercolor-on-heavy-paper

The third is something I did today. I've been planning to write a book about living with AS for ages now and I've finally gotten started on it. Today I organized my notes and made some plans. I should get started on writing bits and pieces tomorrow. I have made a thread on the WrongPlanet forum explaining my plan and asking for input and assistance. I know there are plenty of people with ASDs on this forum as well, so feel free to head over there and contribute whatever thoughts you have: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt235071.html
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 15, 2013, 05:00:09 am
This past week has been up and down. The weather was consistently nice. I went to Taiji training every morning except Tuesday. The only afternoon I went to was Monday. I've spent too much time playing Avernum: Escape from the Pit, but I've also done a lot of reading, a bit of writing, and some socializing. The socializing was always fun, but by the end I was exhausted, as always. I'm definitely getting plenty of exercise, between training and doing strength training at home.

I'm still having bouts of depression, nearly every day. Most often when I'm home alone, but a few days I was even depressed at training. One morning I actually had to fight to not break down crying during our warm-up exercises. When we went through the form (which takes around 20 minutes), I found that focusing on it allowed me to leave those emotions behind - but later in the day they came back. They hadn't gone away, just taken a break.

I'm not really sure what to do. I don't understand what's causing this. Even if it's totally chemical, clinical depression, the amount of exercise I'm doing should be releasing enough happy chemicals in my brain to shut the depression down. And normally I only get really depressed in the winter. All these sunny days in the park should be helping.

I wonder if it's related to my relationship status. I  have great friends, but many of them are couples in very happy relationships, and it can be painful to see them together. I'm jealous of the intimacy they have which is missing from my life. There is plenty of physical contact during training, but no intimacy. It's not sex that I'm missing, really (and that would be easy enough to get if I wanted it), but that feeling of being really close to someone. The feeling of knowing someone cares about me and wants to be physically close to me.

I've always said I'd rather be alone than with someone I'm not really happy with. I'm in love, but I have no idea if the feeling is mutual or even when I'll see that girl. I'm terrified that I'll never see her again.

Thoughts and advice are welcome. I'm not sure what kind of experiment I could devise that would help me here.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/useless.jpg) (http://xkcd.com/55/)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Reudh on July 15, 2013, 05:20:08 am
Something to possibly try:

I once went three days eating exclusively BBQd meat and BBQ sauce. Chicken, turkey and...something else, might have been pig. I don't recall. No beef. Beef sometimes give me headaches. Anyway, for those three days my whole body vibrated with energy. I was happy, energetic, and I felt...clean.

I'm not sure whether it would be a good idea to do it long term, but for those three days I felt like a car used to having swamp muck mixed with the gas, suddenly running on pure gasoline for the first time.

I'd attribute that to the high protein levels in meat. I have felt the same way when I went a tad vegetarian for the fun of it for a few days - quinoa, tofu, brown rice, also high in protein.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 15, 2013, 05:27:35 am
I'm afraid BBQ is not readily available in Prague (at least not for a price I'm willing/able to pay), but I have been craving and eating loads of protein lately. Not too much meat (it's still expensive) but loads of eggs, tofu, soybeans, etc. It's not helping much I'm afraid. I'm still just as consistently lethargic and fatigued as always, even during training. : (
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Mephansteras on July 15, 2013, 01:33:20 pm
I'm afraid BBQ is not readily available in Prague (at least not for a price I'm willing/able to pay), but I have been craving and eating loads of protein lately. Not too much meat (it's still expensive) but loads of eggs, tofu, soybeans, etc. It's not helping much I'm afraid. I'm still just as consistently lethargic and fatigued as always, even during training. : (

Iron deficiency, perhaps? I know my fiance has that issue during her period if she doesn't eat red meat.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 15, 2013, 01:46:07 pm
My constant lethargy and fatigue are nothing new. I've tried just about everything, including iron supplements. I need to get myself to a doctor to get my thyroid tested again, and to a sleep center to get a proper diagnosis of my sleep issues. I'm still facing the neverending dilemma of where to go and how to pay for it, unfortunately. : /
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: scrdest on July 15, 2013, 02:57:34 pm
My constant lethargy and fatigue are nothing new. I've tried just about everything, including iron supplements. I need to get myself to a doctor to get my thyroid tested again, and to a sleep center to get a proper diagnosis of my sleep issues. I'm still facing the neverending dilemma of where to go and how to pay for it, unfortunately. : /

You might have stealthy-ass breathing problems.

You don't normally notice them, but once you are asleep, your breathing is obstructed. Brain gets hypoxia alert and kicks into higher-level brain activity. Your sleep becomes shallow and does not give the benefits of a normal sleep. Then you can breathe again and fall deeper asleep. Rinse and repeat until morning.

From what I heard (from a professor in Psychiatry, so pretty credible) is that such problem is relatively widespread, especially thanks to wide range of possible causes, so it's likely it might be your problem.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Mephansteras on July 15, 2013, 03:09:07 pm
As a cheap fix, try sleeping with your head more elevated. I have issues with sleeping and waking myself up with sleep apnea/snoring if I'm fairly flat, but if I use a thicker pillow or a raised bed it fixes it. A bed that adjusts is expensive, of course, but a thicker/second pillow is a pretty cheap option and might help a good bit.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 15, 2013, 03:28:48 pm
I can't sleep with my head elevated. I only use a very thin pillow, or sometimes none at all. I actually feel that I can't breathe properly if my head is up, and I wake up with neck pain if I manage to sleep that way (such as when I have a cold and have to elevate my head to breathe at all). In any case, I think my sleep problems are far more extensive than that. I've had these problems since I was very young and numerous doctor visits during my teen years never helped (though the doctors never really took me seriously with my neurotic mother standing there accusing me of just being lazy and making it all up for attention). All signs point to narcolepsy, except for the strangely out-of-place fact that it takes me a while to fall asleep at night (though I regularly fall asleep during the day, especially when stressed). Hence the need for professional diagnosis.

I've gone into this in some detail earlier in the thread, though I don't remember exactly where. My general symptoms are:

consistently tired during the day, even after a full night's sleep
wake up frequently during the night
especially sleepy when I first wake up - snooze the alarm clock several times before fully waking up - often feel even more tired than when I went to bed
ALWAYS dream - always waking up from a dream, even if I only fell asleep for a few seconds
stress makes me sleepy; too much stress can trigger "sleep attacks" where I can hardly hold on to consciousness by fighting with all my might (sometimes I can't fight it and I fall asleep at work)
hypnogogic hallucinations - dreaming before I even fall unconscious - sometimes I am aware of the moment I fall unconscious because I am already having a sort of lucid dream which carries over into the sleep state
sleep paralysis - on a fairly regular basis
possible cataplexy - when stressed my muscles get very weak and my vision gets blurry

I live alone now, but when I had a roommate (and during my childhood with 3 sisters) I was assured that I do not snore or talk in my sleep. I do grind my teeth in my sleep (actually not sure if I grind them or just clench them). Often I know it's happening because in my dream I can't unclench my jaw, and my teeth are crumbling and falling out of my mouth. My jaw is always sore when I wake up.

In any case, if I dream as much as it seems I do (need a sleep lab visit to be absolutely sure), it means I'm not getting deep sleep. You're supposed to have deeper sleep before you start dreaming, then back to deeper sleep, in a cycle. My symptoms indicate that I don't have a normal sleep cycle - I'm skipping the deep sleep, going straight to REM sleep and dreams, and waking up before getting any real rest. Then my brain tries to make up for it by falling asleep during the day. The emotional trigger (stress) is another pointer towards narcolepsy... And yet, I still have trouble falling asleep at night. It doesn't make any sense.

I'm also still having the same memory problems as before, the near-constant brain fog, and the eczema has been getting worse the past few days. So... no real progress, since the start of all these experiments. My apartment is cleaner than it used to be, but not as clean as I was trying to keep it, due largely to the depression.

I think I can get a thyroid test from the "foreigners' clinic" doctor that my insurance covers, so I might take a day out of taiji training and do that this week. At the very least it would explain the low blood pressure, brain fog, memory issues, maybe even the fatigue. I have to stop saying "I'll do it soon" and actually just DO it. While I'm there I can ask about sleep center options.

Anyway. Today was a mostly-depressed day, though I did get some writing done, about 800 words. Any suggestions for experiments I could do to try to fight the depression? Exercise is not really helping. When I can focus on something for a while, it fades away, but as soon as I'm idle the depressed feelings come rushing back, and I'm not able to focus on things consistently enough for that to work.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Shakerag on July 15, 2013, 03:45:20 pm
How about sleep paralysis?  Any of that?  I know that's another thing often associated with Narcolepsy.

I'd recommend getting the sleep test as soon as you can.  That's how I got diagnosed. 

When you say it takes you a while to fall asleep at night, about how long are you talking about?

Maybe try and read a little bit in bed.  That always gets me tired at night -_-
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: GlyphGryph on July 15, 2013, 03:51:07 pm
That's awfully familiar to my own sleep pattern. (except I DO sleep walk and sleep talk, and I don't get sleep paralysis or cataplexy so I doubt it's narcolepsy)

I've never understood how people can use those big pillows without feeling like they are suffocating. >_>

Anyway everyone tells me it's just sleep apnea, but maybe it's something more.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: scrdest on July 15, 2013, 04:01:59 pm
Oh. If you are depressed, one issue leads to another. The question is, which one is the core problem.

Abnormal sleep over prolonged periods may lead to assorted mental issues, like depression, so fixing abnormal sleep might help with the depression.

On the other hand, depression leads to abnormal sleep patterns (insomnia and hypersomnia, mainly).

If you have problems with sleeping at night but easily fall asleep during day, disturbed circadian rhythm seems to be a possibility.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 15, 2013, 04:31:36 pm
How about sleep paralysis?  Any of that?  I know that's another thing often associated with Narcolepsy.

I'd recommend getting the sleep test as soon as you can.  That's how I got diagnosed. 

When you say it takes you a while to fall asleep at night, about how long are you talking about?

Maybe try and read a little bit in bed.  That always gets me tired at night -_-

Yes, I get sleep paralysis. It's on the list above.

I want to get tested but my insurance won't pay for it, and the people running the few sleep labs in Prague don't speak English, so it's complicated.

It can take me many hours to fall asleep. But only at night. During the day I can fall asleep pretty much anytime, anywhere. And actually, even at night, I can usually fall asleep quickly if I'm not in my own bed - visiting a friend, for example. I've tried moving my bed, changing my sheets, etc., but it doesn't help. I had insomnia for years starting when I was about 5 years old, and the other issues started around puberty. It's possible I just associate my own bed with "not sleeping" and my crazy brain fights off the need for sleep just out of habit. Also, time to go to sleep also means time for everything to be quiet and calm, giving my brain free reign to go crazy with all my anxieties, which might also be keeping me up. Have to talk to an expert about this.

You might want to read through more of this thread, since you seem to have missed a lot. I am autistic (it used to be asperger syndrome but apparently that doesn't officially exist anymore so it's "high-functioning autism" with severe sensory issues now) so that affects everything else. A lot of people accuse me of hypochondria, and I understand why, since I'm always going on about these abnormal things, but my investigation into my physical and neurological issues is not based in anxiety. I do not have anxiety about my health. I simply want to understand my brain and body, and if it's possible to help some of these things, I want to do so. I have no idea what is normal and what is abnormal, so I ask people - they mistake this for anxious obsession and accuse me of hypochondria.

There are only 2 conditions I am certain I have: autism and HPPD. I have anxiety issues, but they are based in logic: I have difficulty with social situations and I am extremely hypersensitive, so I have a great deal of anxiety about going out into the world and dealing with people and anticipating social situations. If I can understand the logic behind something (like my health), I no longer fear or worry about it.

I have dealt with depression since I was very young (around the same time the insomnia started, about age 5). There are many reasons for how it started. I was autistic but undiagnosed and constantly accused of making up my problems or doing things wrong just to get attention. My apparently high-functioning but mentally-ill mother verbally and emotionally abused me and my sisters every day of our lives (constant accusations of being horrible, evil children whose only goal in life was to ruin her, screaming that we were so terrible we made her want to kill herself, responding with any suggestion that she wasn't a perfect parent with the fiery-eyed and cold statement that she had "never laid a hand on us" and therefore no one would ever believe our lies, etc.) and whenever I did something imperfectly, I was severely punished and accused of messing it up on purpose. I had no friends and no help. So the beginnings of the depression were hardly irrational. It's possible that over the years until I moved away from my mother (at age 23), it developed into a default state which is now extremely difficult to break out of. I have tried antidepressants a few times but I always reacted very badly to them - they always made me feel worse - so I decided I will not use them ever again.

Anyway, sorry for the tangent. I'm getting pretty sleepy but I'm afraid to go to bed because I know I won't be able to sleep, and I have to get up early for training tomorrow...

What I was trying to get to is the list of things I still need an explanation for, which are not explained by autism or HPPD. This includes the sleep symptoms listed above, as well as:
low blood pressure and poor circulation
near-constant brain fog
poor memory (I can memorize things by rote very well but never remember that I've made tea until I walk into the kitchen for something and notice it on the table hours later, can never remember where I put things, forget what I'm saying in the middle of talking, never remember that I've already said something and am repeating myself, etc.)
inability to concentrate/focus
depression, in case it is (at least partly) the result of some larger, possibly treatable condition (I hope so)
terrible eczema rash on my left leg that's been there for years and isn't responding to steroid cream (probably unrelated to the other things but it's still unexplained)

Hyperactive thyroid would explain most of this. My thyroid was tested many times growing up because doctors were concerned that I was so underweight despite eating loads, and with such low blood pressure. They always told me the result showed that my thyroid was more active than usual but "not dangerous," so they never did anything about it. Maybe it's time to do something about it. Maybe it's gotten worse, or maybe the doctors were wrong and it should have been treated when I was younger. It was hard to get doctors to help me with anything when I was under 18 and my mother could stand there telling them I was making up stories for attention.

Actually, I have to say that it sort of gives me hope that my depression is so bad despite all the positive steps I'm taking against it. If it were normal clinical depression, it should improve with loads of exercise and sunshine. Since it's not, maybe it's actually being caused by something physical, something that can be treated physically...
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Post by: scrdest on July 15, 2013, 05:48:51 pm
Clinical depression is caused by something physical. It's a chemical imbalance, there's not enough neurotransmitters such as Dopamine, which generally manages motivation - if you don't have enough, apathy, too much - autistic-like obsessive behaviors and the like;

Serotonin, which manages things like sleep and appetite - too much is classical stoner behaviour - and too little causes insomnia (!), low body temperature, low blood pressure (!)...

Finally, Norepinephrine (noradrenaline), the stress hormone, which, if insufficient, manifests as, quote, 'severe sluggishness, chronic and abnormal fatigue, and mental cloudiness'.

Fun fact: I knew the exact symptoms of respective deficiencies in broad strokes, and all the interestingly fitting things were found accidentally.
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Post by: Sappho on July 16, 2013, 02:00:27 am
Yes, you're right, depression is often a neurological issue rather than purely a psychological one. When I say "physical" I mean to distinguish it from "neurological," as in I'm thinking it might be caused by something outside the brain which can be treated without directly messing with brain chemistry. The thing is, I've tried several types of antidepressants in the past and they have only made me worse. Yes, it's possible that this is clinical depression, but if that's the case then I'm in a lot of trouble, because none of the treatments so far have helped at all.

If I go to a shrink, they will diagnose me with depression, tell me to do the things I'm already doing, probably try to give me more antidepressants. If I go to a physician, they will look at other possibilities first. They will test my thyroid (which can also cause all of those things and which has been hyperactive in the past) and other physical (non-neurological) issues that could be causing all this, including the depression. (I was hoping it might be simple B12 deficiency, but after a month of taking moderate doses of supplements there was zero improvement.) I've had low blood pressure since I was a young child, so it's unlikely that was caused by depression. Much more likely the depression is caused by something else. I think a lot of people suffering from depression go straight to a shrink for help and miss the fact that there are other things that can cause depression which are far easier to treat than pure clinical depression.

Also, autistic people tend to have a deficiency in certain dopamine receptors, so even though our brains are producing enough dopamine, we're still not getting enough of it where it needs to be, which means we tend much more strongly toward depression and anxiety. We also seem to have higher levels of cortisol (stress hormone). There are a lot of other neurological issues linked to autism that are still being studied and are not yet well understood. If you're interested in neurology, there's plenty of material there for you to look at. This blog isn't a bad place to start, and has helped me understand several things about how my brain functions that I didn't understand before: http://snakedance.tumblr.com/

One thing I forgot to mention last night was the pain. That's a good sign, actually. I don't think about the pain except when I'm feeling it, and I (thankfully) don't feel it all the time, although I used to. It has gotten better with all the exercise I get, which is good. I get nerve pain up and down my spine and neck, radiating out from a point about 2/3 of the way up my spine and slightly to the right. It hurts the most if I have to stand up for long periods of time, more painful if my posture is good than if I slouch. I also get strange shooting pains from my left shoulder down to my elbow when in certain positions. My knees, ankles, and wrists tend to ache as well, in the muscles and connective tissues around the joints. Finally, in certain positions I get tingling in my extremities and sometimes my hands and arms or legs even fall asleep. This pain has been present for so long I don't even remember when it started - probably when I was a young teenager. (Doctors, of course, ignored my complaints until I was 18.) I'm also incredibly sensitive to pressure - kneeling on the floor for just a minute hurts my knees for a long time afterward, sitting cross-legged even on a carpet hurts the part of my ankle that's touching the floor, trying to sleep on a mattress that isn't really soft hurts whatever hip and shoulder are touching the mattress. About ten years or so ago I got diagnosed with fibromyalgia - I had all the symptoms, and when the doctor pushed on all the relevant spots, all but one of them hurt. At the time there were no treatment options other than an antidepressant I had already tried without success, so the doctor pretty much just shoved me out of the office and wished me good luck.

I'm still not convinced that I actually have fibromyalgia. The pain is not as consistent as it used to be, and the other symptoms (sensitivity to pressure, depression, anxiety, sleep problems, fatigue, bowel issues (which I have but not severely), constant brain fog, numbness and tingling) can all be explained by other conditions.
sensitivity to pressure - autistic hypersensitivity to touch
sleep problems/fatigue/brain fog - narcolepsy, anxiety issues
depression/anxiety - autism, traumatic childhood
bowel issues - can be caused by anxiety/stress
numbness and tingling/nerve pain - pinched nerve

Also, one of my taiji teachers is also a skilled masseuse who uses many different methods for rehabilitation, and when I got a massage from her, she stopped at the spot in my spine where the pain originates and asked me what was going on there. I told her about the pain and numbness and she said she wasn't surprised - there was something "off" about that vertebra and it looked like something might be pinched there. She worked on it a bit but said she couldn't fix it on her own (and anyway I had asked her to focus on working some of the stress knots out of my neck and shoulders). It was quite a relief to be told that there is a clear physical origin of the pain, it's not just psychological or induced by depression, even though I don't yet know how to fix it.

The good news is, I've just learned there is now a blood test for fibromyalgia! No more "diagnosis of exclusion" - I can go to the doctor and find out once and for all if this is my problem. It is still a possibility, even if it's not the most likely possibility anymore. And once I have a clear answer about that, I can stop wondering.

Right now I'm missing the start of taiji training for the morning. It's a gorgeous day outside but I couldn't get out of bed this morning until the cat spent some time lying on my chest swatting at my face because he wanted breakfast. (For everyone who gets depression, I strongly encourage you to get a cat or even a dog.) It wasn't a motivation problem today - I just couldn't shake myself out of my dreams. Even turning off my alarm clock was something I only half-remember doing. Now I'm sluggishly trying to catch up, slowly waking up all the way. I'm already late and the training goes for 3.5 hours, and I don't like the first part of it anyway, so I'm not rushing. I will go for at least the second half - that's got all the stuff I'm really interested in anyway, the single-posture practice in the short form and learning a new part of the refined simplified (Master Huang) form, which is my favorite part. Maybe I will also catch the applications practice, where we take a small posture from the form and practice using it in real self-defense. It's so much fun to knock someone to the ground using almost no effort! Everyone who never has should try out some kung fu at some point in their lives. SO empowering.

Jesus, this thing has turned into a blog. That was never my intention here. This is a place for data and experiments! I need to find a way to deal with this using charts and graphs. Maybe I'll make up some new tables. I can keep the old ones and add a spot for pain and numbness. (For all who are just starting to read this, go back a few pages to see some of the data I collected during the last month of work before the school year ended.) I also need to fix up the first post of the thread again, since it's quite out of date.

As for the strength training, I have missed a few days but mostly I'm keeping up with my pushups. I stopped doing the dips because I think they were what was causing the pain and numbness in my left shoulder and arm (not sure what I was doing wrong - have to remember to ask my teacher to help me with that). I graduated from 3 sets of 10 "girly" push-ups (on the knees) to 3 sets of 5 proper push-ups (on the toes). I have most definitely gotten stronger. I could hardly do 1 or 2 push-ups on the toes before, and now I can do 5 without too much difficulty. I think it's worth doing the proper ones even if I do fewer of them, because I can clearly feel that I'm using far more of my body to do them. After the first day of proper push-ups, I had incredibly sore abs for 2 days! I never realized you used your abs in that exercise, but I'm happy to make them stronger.
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Post by: DJ on July 16, 2013, 02:17:03 am
Have you tried leaving the TV on when you go to sleep? It might simply be too quiet in your bedroom, as all the places where you have no trouble falling asleep seem to have more background noise.
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Post by: Sappho on July 16, 2013, 02:20:28 am
Thanks for the suggestion. I don't have a TV. : ) When I was younger and living with my mother I did leave the TV on at night sometimes, but it didn't help. I would focus on what was on, which kept me awake. It didn't simply become background noise. Also I felt guilty and anxious about wasting electricity, so that only made it worse.

By the way, last night I fell asleep pretty quickly. I don't always lie awake for hours with thoughts racing through my head. If I manage to get into bed during a moment of drowsiness or fatigue, I can usually pass out pretty quick. Or if I'm sedated in some way, such as with alcohol or certain herbal teas (I had a cup of Melissa tea before bed last night so that probably helped). Unfortunately if I try to use tea every night I build up a tolerance pretty quickly and it stops working. : /
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Post by: DJ on July 16, 2013, 02:23:27 am
Yeah, I guess TV won't help if you actually watch it. It needs to be some kind of repetitive noise you don't pay much attention to. Hm, how about turning on the washing machine? It's cheap electricity at night too, so it's a win-win. Though I doubt you have enough laundry to do this more than once a week if you live on your own.
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Post by: Sappho on July 16, 2013, 02:30:59 am
I can't run the washing machine at night because it is extremely loud and disturbs the downstairs neighbors. I only do laundry maybe once per week and a half anyway. I don't really have anything that I can use to produce background noise which wouldn't be overly loud or a huge waste of electricity. In any case, I don't really think it's the lack of background noise that causes the problem (although it is true that sometimes white noise makes me sleepier). I think it's a psychological association of my bed with "processing." This is my space, my time, and my brain uses it to process all the backlog from the day and consider the possibilities of the next day, even when I don't want to. It's worth noting that I have a much easier time falling asleep when I *don't* have to get up the next morning. When I have to get up early the next day, I get anxiety about oversleeping, which keeps me awake, and I hate the knowledge that my next conscious thought will be about having to get up and go to work, so I think I keep myself awake just to have more "me time" without responsibility. If I know I can sleep for a long time and I'll still have "me time" when I wake up, it's usually not difficult to sleep.

Not sure what to do about all that.
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Post by: DJ on July 16, 2013, 09:16:51 am
Yeah, I have similar issues. Еspecially the part about thinking how I'm wasting "me time" sleeping. You just need to find a way to clear your mind. Personally, I light a joint and masturbate (I apologize for being so uncouth, but it's the truth).
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Post by: Sappho on July 16, 2013, 09:57:10 am
Haha, I wouldn't fault anyone for honesty. In fact I try both of those regularly. Actually the smoking tends to make my mind even more active even as it relaxes my body, so it can be counterproductive sometimes. The other form of relaxation is sometimes helpful but sometimes not. It's a bit less simple for girls. Sometimes it does work though!
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Post by: Sappho on July 16, 2013, 01:30:50 pm
Alright, I've got an idea for a new "experiment." Aside from keeping general track of my ups and downs (probably will be too busy to track by hour but I'll try to make clear mental notes when I can), I'm giving myself a simple rule. Every time I start to feel depressed, I have to do push-ups. Just drop to the ground as soon as there is a suitable place to do so (I'm usually at home so that's easy enough) and do a few push-ups. The number will depend on the day. I'm trying to increase the length of my morning sets by one per day, and that will carry over to these "depression sets." This morning I did 3 sets of 5. Tomorrow I'll do 3 sets of 6, plus 6 more when I start to feel the depression creeping up. I know it probably won't be enough to chase the depression away completely, at least at first, but once I get stronger and am doing longer sets, it should help a lot more. And even if it doesn't help with the depression, it will at least help me get stronger faster.

I'll keep track of how I feel during this, try to see if it helps, or what effect it has. I did it twice today already and I have to admit, though it didn't cure me, I did feel a bit better afterward.

Does anyone else want to try this along with me? More data is always good!
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Post by: GlyphGryph on July 16, 2013, 01:59:02 pm
I'd love to, but I think I'd need another trigger. I've been mercifully free of "being down" as a regular thing the last few months.
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Post by: scrdest on July 16, 2013, 02:22:24 pm
Alright, I've got an idea for a new "experiment." Aside from keeping general track of my ups and downs (probably will be too busy to track by hour but I'll try to make clear mental notes when I can), I'm giving myself a simple rule. Every time I start to feel depressed, I have to do push-ups. Just drop to the ground as soon as there is a suitable place to do so (I'm usually at home so that's easy enough) and do a few push-ups. The number will depend on the day. I'm trying to increase the length of my morning sets by one per day, and that will carry over to these "depression sets." This morning I did 3 sets of 5. Tomorrow I'll do 3 sets of 6, plus 6 more when I start to feel the depression creeping up. I know it probably won't be enough to chase the depression away completely, at least at first, but once I get stronger and am doing longer sets, it should help a lot more. And even if it doesn't help with the depression, it will at least help me get stronger faster.

I'll keep track of how I feel during this, try to see if it helps, or what effect it has. I did it twice today already and I have to admit, though it didn't cure me, I did feel a bit better afterward.

Does anyone else want to try this along with me? More data is always good!

I'm not sure if push-ups is optimal exercise as depression-fighting method. The idea is that you use up a lot of oxygen for an extended period of time, to which the brain reacts with releasing a fuckton of endorfins, which make you feel nice and happy. Push-ups are generally taxing, but the exercise doesn't take very long.
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Post by: Sappho on July 16, 2013, 02:37:52 pm
It doesn't take long, but you get endorphins from anything that is physically difficult, and when you are as weak as I am, a few push-ups is most definitely taxing, and I feel the after-effects for a little while afterwards. When I do my sets in the morning, the first one isn't bad, then I take a 30 second breather, then the second set is difficult, then I take a 30 second breather, then the third set is nearly impossible to complete - my arms feel like rubber by the end. And that's just sets of 5. I think exercise can be plenty beneficial even if it doesn't take a long time.

In any case, it's an experiment. I'd try going for a run, but I have asthma and it would take ages to build up the lung capacity for that to be as useful as push-ups. Anyway, push-ups are something I can quickly do whenever I feel myself getting down. If it took a long time, I would have to prepare for it and motivate myself to get started, which would be impossible, given I'm trying to fight depression. A quick "drop and give me 5" to myself whenever I notice myself starting to feel down might be just enough of a push to get me moving before I have a chance to think too much about it, and once I'm up and moving around it's easier to keep going, rather than flopping down onto my bed and soaking the pillow in pointless tears.

Doing it has got to be better than not doing it. It doesn't have to solve the whole problem to be useful.
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Post by: DJ on July 16, 2013, 04:54:10 pm
I started doing push ups etc. this spring to help my back pain (I spend way too much time in a chair), but I can say it definitely improved my overall mood as well.
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Post by: Sappho on July 17, 2013, 01:49:40 am
Yes, I have high hopes for the push-ups experiment. At the very least, if I can regularly force myself to get up and do even a tiny bit of exercise every time I start feeling crappy, it'll keep me from sitting around thinking too much, which ought to help a lot. Plus... Muscles!

I'm not sure if I've mentioned on here how much I've relied on Cracked.com articles for a lot of my understanding of my own brain and life. I know it's just a humor web site, and I'm sure the information isn't 100% accurate all the time, but there is a lot of truth on there, presented in a very clear and direct way (even funny), making it easy for me to understand. Perhaps these articles will be of use to some of you - if not, they're still entertaining.

http://www.cracked.com/article_17061_reminder-5-things-you-think-will-make-you-happy-but-wont.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_20035_7-things-you-wont-believe-science-says-make-you-happy.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_20398_5-ways-your-brain-tricking-you-into-being-miserable.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_17103_5-ways-your-brain-messing-with-your-head.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19376_5-scientific-reasons-your-idea-happiness-wrong.html

There are many more, but that's a good start. I'm re-reading some of them now to remind me to pay better attention to my habits.

I'm missing training this morning because I have a dentist appointment in a few hours. Dentists are a sensory nightmare and I'm going specifically because I know I have at least one cavity which is starting to hurt too much to ignore. Considering bringing a thermos of calming tea to drink right before I go in (I don't want to use diazepam for a quick dentist visit, especially since I might not even get the filling today - I might have to just get the Xray today and go back in a week or so...). Trying to think of ways to distract myself while I'm in that chair to try to keep the anxiety level down. Maybe try to write out another chapter of my book in my head. That can be surprisingly helpful. Maybe I'll run from the tram to the office, try to get a bit of an endorphin rush going?
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Post by: Siquo on July 17, 2013, 02:49:19 am
Someone advised me to read this: http://www.urbandharma.org/pdf/mindfulness_in_plain_english.pdf
It's a how-to-start-with-meditation guide, and apparently can help overcome chronic terminal ennui. Haven't started on it yet (of course), as procrastination is way more important. Will report if I get results.


Well, at least you inspired me to try new stuff to get things out of their status quo, Sappho. Let me give you the official medal of Inspirational Role Model.
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Post by: scrdest on July 17, 2013, 03:04:46 am
Actually, turns out my data was... outdated (BA-dum-TISH). It's not endorphins but phenyletylamine.

As it happens, I am asthmatic too, although it doesn't show up until I either exercise or take a good whiff of allergens (though I suspect the former simply leads to the latter - I am slightly allergic to grasses (and, sadly, VERY allergic to cat fur - tell that to my Persian). But the point is pretty much to have too little oxygen, so that brain tries to calm itself.
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Post by: Sappho on July 17, 2013, 03:39:12 am
Siquo: Thanks for the link. I've just read through the introduction and first chapter and I'm actually finding it kind of funny - the themes discussed are the same ones that David Wong is always putting in those cracked.com articles, the ones I've been using to shape my perception and attitudes and become a generally more satisfied person (or at least someone who's not so easily upset, who doesn't hold on to bad feelings, who appreciates that anticipation of happiness is actually more effective than experiencing it, who makes a point of taking the more difficult road whenever possible simply because it's been proven to increase overall good feelings, etc.).

I have tried several types of meditation before, and failed utterly no matter how consistently and intensely I tried. After some long discussions with a friend of mine who studies neurology, we came to the conclusion that meditation techniques are designed to work with a neurotypical mind. Autistic brains really do work fundamentally differently from neurotypical ones. We process information differently, we perceive things differently... our whole world is different. Even the pathways and connections in our brains are measurably different. Trying to impose these methods of "mindfulness" and meditation and any other way of trying to control your mind and your thinking simply don't work on an autistic mind. (We are highly resistant to things like optical illusions and inattention blindness, for example, and things like chanting mantras have no effect on my thought processes whatsoever.) On top of that, I feel a constant need to move my body, and trying to hold it still just increases my levels of stress and anxiety, so that rules out most types of meditation right off the bat. I have found a few autistic people who say meditation is useful for them, but most seem to get the same results as me: it just doesn't work. We just can't make our minds do that.

Still, I'll read through the PDF and give it a try. It's not likely to hurt me any. : ) And it might be useful! I'll let you know what I think after I've read it.

As for the medal of Inspirational Role Model, I thank you! I didn't imagine that my little experiments would be too useful or interesting to anyone who wasn't me, but I'm pleasantly surprised to see that I can have a positive impact on other people.

I was discussing these experiments with a friend of mine over lunch the other day, actually, and she seemed impressed as well. She said she liked my approach to this stuff; she said it's like I'm "hacking" my brain and my life. I thought that was pretty excellent.

Scrdest: It sounds like you're talking about the "runner's high" - the huge rush of happy chemicals you get from pushing your body and lungs really hard for a long time. For sure this is a real thing, and I'm sure it's very effective, but it takes a lot of hard work and motivation to get to that point. This is not the only way to reap a psychological/neurological benefit from exercise. Even a tiny amount of exercise improves your overall mood. Regular amounts of tiny exercise not only keep you a bit healthier, they make you feel better about yourself, and yes, cause a release of those happy chemicals in your brain as reward for a physical accomplishment. All the research I've seen shows that our brains reward us for *all* actions that have a physical result. Compare two people who live identically in every way, except one of them always takes the stairs and the other always takes the elevator/escalator, and you'll definitely see a difference in their happiness levels.

Speaking of which, every time I ride the metro here in Prague (pretty much daily), I make sure to walk both up and down the escalators leading down to the platforms. It's not a lot of exercise, but when I started doing it, I noticed a difference pretty quickly. Especially walking up - escalator stairs are bigger than normal steps, and at first I was getting winded just walking to the top. Now I can fast-walk up the long escalators (that take 2 minutes to ride from bottom to top if you don't walk) and barely be out of breath when I finish. These little things are always a good idea.

An incredibly lazy friend of mine takes great joy in reciting this quote, no idea where it came from: "Never sit when you can stand, never stand when you can walk, never walk when you can run." He usually recites this while slouching in a comfortable chair watching reruns of House on the computer. I'm definitely a lot happier overall than he is. ; )

Here's another good article. It's the first David Wong article I ever read, and it changed the way I approached everything in my life: http://www.cracked.com/article_15231_7-reasons-21st-century-making-you-miserable.html

Oh, and one more - this one gave me a huge boost to my social skills and finally made me understand some of the reasons why people had been reacting negatively to things I said, my whole life: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-ways-youre-accidentally-making-everyone-hate-you/
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Post by: Siquo on July 17, 2013, 04:17:08 am
Here's another good article. It's the first David Wong article I ever read, and it changed the way I approached everything in my life: http://www.cracked.com/article_15231_7-reasons-21st-century-making-you-miserable.html
Those are pretty good articles you linked. I also saw that he wrote "John dies at the end", which I really liked and deserves way more than a 6.4 on IMDB.
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Post by: scrdest on July 17, 2013, 05:52:30 am
I'm a bit wary about listening to whatever Cracked says, since they have an annoying tendency to be biased, use misinterpreted data or common misconceptions just as often as they point all those out.

Then there's the fact that psychology sometimes shows that what average Joe-comedy-writer would do in a certain situation, as intuitive it may seem, is a completely wrong course of action. For example, if you see someone who is depressed and convinced of his worthlessness, trying to tell him otherwise worsens the problem - because you are, essentially, telling him his feels are inferior to your feels.
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Post by: Siquo on July 17, 2013, 06:27:56 am
I'm a bit wary about listening to whatever Cracked says, since they have an annoying tendency to be biased, use misinterpreted data or common misconceptions just as often as they point all those out.
Except that it's Cracked. The fact that it's a comedy site that is not to be taken seriously at all is healthier way to make a serious point than to pretend one is an authority and present ones view as the one and only way (hi psychologists).
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: scrdest on July 17, 2013, 07:07:22 am
I'm a bit wary about listening to whatever Cracked says, since they have an annoying tendency to be biased, use misinterpreted data or common misconceptions just as often as they point all those out.
Except that it's Cracked. The fact that it's a comedy site that is not to be taken seriously at all is healthier way to make a serious point than to pretend one is an authority and present ones view as the one and only way (hi psychologists).

Wait, what? Did you just write that the best way to make a point is to be both unreliable and actively ask people not to believe what you say? That's a refreshing approach to persuasion. I'll try it someday.
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Post by: Sappho on July 17, 2013, 07:15:10 am
I'm a bit wary about listening to whatever Cracked says, since they have an annoying tendency to be biased, use misinterpreted data or common misconceptions just as often as they point all those out.
Except that it's Cracked. The fact that it's a comedy site that is not to be taken seriously at all is healthier way to make a serious point than to pretend one is an authority and present ones view as the one and only way (hi psychologists).

Agreed. Presenting such things as comedy seems the far better choice to me than presenting yourself as an expert and telling someone what to do. Scrdest, you could also say it this way: they point out misinterpreted data and common misconceptions just as often as they use them, which is more than you could say for most so-called experts.

The authors of these articles make you laugh even as they point out your shortcomings. Making something funny will almost always make the audience more receptive to the intended message. If someone came up to me and said "all those things that you think will make you happy will only make you miserable and you're doomed if you don't listen to me" I'd tell them to fuck right off. If, on the other hand, they make a joke out of it, point out that they themselves make this same mistake all the time, and present it as something new and interesting rather than being preachy, I will listen to what they have to say and it might even change my life.

If David Wong was a psychologist explaining all this to me in a serious manner, he would have exactly zero positive impact on my life. I've heard enough so-called experts lecture me with useless ramblings that I just tune it out now. Instead, he's just a regular guy who's noticed some things about people and life, found some scientific research to back himself up, and presented it in a funny way which I enjoy reading, but afterwards I still keep thinking about it and it changes my behavior.

And that's one thing not to be forgotten. Yes, it's true that everyone makes mistakes, and Cracked articles are not always 100% accurate. BUT, in order to write for Cracked, you have to provide a source for every claim you make. All the articles provide links to the studies their claims are based on, so if you doubt the veracity of something, you can go look at it yourself and decide whether the source is viable.

Regardless of whether that site is accurate or not, it has made a big difference in my life reading these articles. Most of what I read makes perfect sense if you just think about it. I went from being a miserably depressed, antisocial loser who hardly ever left my bedroom, to an active, social person with lots of hobbies, who gets plenty of exercise and tries difficult and scary things I never would have before (who only has occasional bouts of depression which are usually fought off fairly quickly), almost entirely as a result of reading these articles and deciding to make some changes. It doesn't even really matter to me if they are completely accurate, because they succeeded in making me a better, happier person.

In other news, my visit to the dentist was far easier than I expected. He said there is no cavity, and the pain I'm feeling is most likely the result of simple sensitivity, which can develop over time. He put some stuff on it to help for a while and gave me the name of a product I can use myself to do the same thing, once this wears off. No drill, no filling, and very cheap! Hooray!
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Post by: Siquo on July 17, 2013, 07:17:12 am
Wait, what? Did you just write that the best way to make a point is to be both unreliable and actively ask people not to believe what you say? That's a refreshing approach to persuasion. I'll try it someday.
I did. The most surefire way to be wrong, is to be sure about something. Taking all advice with a grain of salt (not too many grains, bad for the kidneys) is a Good Thing, and from that reasoning, serving your advice with a grain of salt is a positive thing. It will also not rub people the wrong way as easily, and they won't feel attacked in their current viewpoint, so it can increase the chance that they will actually listen to it.

Note: this doesn't always work, but it might. Sometimes. Also, don't take social advice from Aspergers on internet fora. It's bound to get you into trouble. (See what I did there? ;) )

Edit: ah just got ninja'd :)
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Post by: Sappho on July 17, 2013, 07:19:14 am
Wait, what? Did you just write that the best way to make a point is to be both unreliable and actively ask people not to believe what you say? That's a refreshing approach to persuasion. I'll try it someday.

Please do not start arguing in my thread. This thread is for self-analysis, experiments, and friendly discussion. If you want to argue about Cracked, please do it elsewhere. It's enough to state your opinions here, add whether you agree or disagree with others if you like, but leave all sarcasm and hostility at the door. Thanks.
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Post by: scrdest on July 17, 2013, 07:20:57 am
Irony: today's Cracked article?

The 5 Luckiest Accidents That Scientists Passed Off as Skill (http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-luckiest-accidents-that-scientists-passed-off-as-skill/)

EDIT: Fixing bad copypasta
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Post by: Siquo on July 17, 2013, 07:26:06 am
Hmm, I stopped interpreting sarcasm and now take quotes at face value. That way, he really was astonished to learn a refreshing new way of making your argument.
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Post by: Sappho on July 17, 2013, 07:31:46 am
Ha, that's a good idea, Siquo. It's a shame I always expect people online to be flaming or trolling or yoloing or whatever the kids are into these days.

But it's not a bad idea for me to make it clear that this thread is really not the place for that stuff. I don't want arguments or hostility of any kind here. It's not a debate thread. It's my experiment thread. Opinions and ideas can certainly be shared, but if an argument begins, it can move somewhere else. You've got a whole internet to scream futilely at strangers who disagree with you. This one thread is mine. MIIIIINE!!! And it will remain a happy, friendly, encouraging place, whether you lot like it or not.  >:(
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Post by: Siquo on July 17, 2013, 08:02:12 am
Ghegheghe :D I needed a new sig anyways.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 17, 2013, 09:24:31 am
I am honored. : )

So it's a beautiful day outside, but I had a sleep attack and passed out for about an hour (in my own bed!). The afternoon taiji class started 15 minutes ago. Afternoons is push hands and sword form. I was planning to go, to make up for the missed training this morning. I was looking forward to it, actually. Usually in the afternoons I'm too tired from the morning to go. I'm awake now (obviously) but not really awake. My vision is still blurry, limbs still heavy. No way in hell could I handle push hands just now. I'm kind of angry, actually. I'm sick of missing things because I'm too tired. I slept enough last night, and I just had this little "nap," but I feel more tired than I did before I fell asleep. I can't even walk in a straight line. I'm glad I live alone because I don't want anyone to see me staggering around like a drunk (though I don't seem to have any problem telling you guys about it).

I suppose it could be a result of the stress of traveling to the dentist on a noisy tram, waiting in a chair for 40 minutes while a group of men talked very loudly standing right next to me, mildly freaking out in the chair as the dentist scraped my teeth with that hook they have, and the strange sensation of the stuff he put on my tooth to desensitize it, which got on my upper lip and I can still feel/taste it, followed by the tram ride home.

The worst part is, aside from the dentist visit, I haven't really accomplished anything today. No writing, no drawing, no exercise except my 3 sets of 6 push-ups today. It's beautiful and sunny outside and I'm sitting on the sofa in my pajamas constantly fixing typos because my half-limp fingers keep hitting the wrong keys. I should be outside with my friends playing with push hands and laughing and planning to go out for drinks afterward.

This is incredibly frustrating. I'm gonna try some caffeine and chocolate. If I can wake myself up by 5, I can still go for half the class. Better than nothing. If not... Maybe I'll just go back to bed and sleep until morning and try not to worry about having lost a whole day.
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Post by: Tiruin on July 17, 2013, 10:18:12 am
This is one beautiful thread and I'm watching this.



Query: Are you sticking to a regular sleep schedule or at the very least not sleeping according to how you feel (erratic schedules of when to sleep regardless of time of day)? Also don't overdose on the caffeine--stimulants to the body are good in moderation when you need the extra perk, but rely on them too much and there will be spikes of energy shifting you from 'I can totally do this' to a state of crashing due to fatigue.

The last part was just a generality as I'm unsure how the case is there :)
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Post by: Sappho on July 17, 2013, 10:37:44 am
At the moment my sleep schedule is as close to regular as I can manage. I mean, I'm getting up early every morning except Monday for training, so I have to be in bed at a reasonable time. On the other hand, if I try to go to bed when I'm wide awake, I'll just lie there thinking and thinking and worrying about oversleeping the next day and keeping myself awake even longer, and further associating bed with not sleeping. I've heard if you can't sleep after a while you should get up and go do something relaxing like reading a book, so the bed area doesn't get associated with being awake, and you should never do anything but sleeping (and sex, if you're lucky enough to have that option) in your bed. I suppose it's probably a bit late for that with me, but I still make an effort. And I'm conditioned to waking up early, so much so that when I don't have to wake up early, I still can't sleep any later than about 7. I figure that's a good thing, keep a bit of regularity in my schedule and try to be awake whenever the sun is up.

When I feel like I'm going to fall asleep, I have to fall asleep if I can. When I say "sleep attack" I really mean it. I can either stumble around like a drunkard trying to stay awake, or I can just lie down and take a nap. If it does turn out to be narcolepsy, they say that you shouldn't fight the sleep attacks, just let the nap happen. Usually when you wake up from it you'll feel better for at least a few hours. Sometimes I'm not so lucky but usually they help.

I try not to use too much caffeine, but it's tough because I love tea. Real, proper tea, which happens to have loads of caffeine in it. I don't usually crash from a cup of tea though. If I really need an energy boost, tea is not usually enough anyway. Caffeine works differently in tea, depending on the type and how you prepare it. I use coffee when I really need the energy, and I try not to do that too often (which is easy because I don't like coffee). Or, if coffee isn't on hand, I might drink some soda or something, but I try to avoid that stuff.

In any case, the sleep attacks are not caffeine crashes, for sure. All the tracking of myself for the month I was doing so demonstrated that regardless of caffeine intake, I tend to be sleepy all the time, and the spikes of sleepiness are always around the same times of day (or in the same situations). The correlation was almost universally to stress. The more stressed I am, the more sleepy I get. This is separate from anxiety, which tends to keep me awake. I'm thinking maybe one of the reasons I don't fall asleep easy enough at night is because, being at home in my space, the stress of the day is gone, relieving the sleepiness, but that frees up my mind to panic about everything that happened that day and will happen the next day (especially social interactions), so the anxiety of that keeps me awake. Hmmmmmmmmm.

As might be evident by the fact I'm here writing this, I did not manage to wake up enough to go to training. I'm really frustrated. I made myself do 6 push-ups to fight the sinking feeling of having failed for the day, but it didn't wake me up. I tried to just go back to sleep, but I guess the bit of caffeine did its job in keeping me awake because although I can't think straight, I also can't sleep. Well done, self.
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Post by: Sappho on July 18, 2013, 02:45:49 pm
Last night before bed I had a glass of wine, to help me sleep. It did not help me sleep actually, but it did keep me from waking up this morning. I dragged myself out of bed 45 minutes late and stumbled groggily into training at 8:45. I was half-asleep right up until the end. I made some nice food for lunch which was cool, then I pretty much passed out. I spent the afternoon alternating between napping and feeling really depressed. I think I did 3 or 4 extra sets of 7 push-ups but they didn't really help (at least I can be getting stronger). At one point I got so depressed I was crying for no reason, then angry at myself for crying for no reason, and spiraling thusly onward until I decided I needed a push to get my ass moving and do something. Since there was no one else around to push me (the cat was lying on his back on the floor and generally being no help at all), I imagined my taiji teacher had just showed up for a surprise visit (nevermind that this is impossible since I live on the 2nd floor of an apartment building with no doorbell and you need 2 keys to get in).

Guys, imaginary friends can be really surprisingly helpful. I had him act the way I figure he really would in real life. First comforting me, then seeing that I need someone to kick my ass a bit, then demanding that I get up immediately and do some standing with him (taiji exercise). "Together" we focused on how it was feeling, how my body was adjusting to it, how my standing practice has changed over time. Then he asked if I felt a bit better, and when I said yes he said good, now get to work cleaning up this mess, no excuses, no buts. As in real life, he smiled and said it in a half-joking way yet it was clear that he was the authority and I'd better hop to it. I picked up the floor in the living room and kitchen and vacuumed, and did a bit of tidying of clutter. It's still not perfect but by the time I stopped there was a definite improvement and I felt somewhat better.

So I guess the verdict for the day is: push-ups good but not gonna cure any depression on their own, imaginary friends are a highly effective motivational tool, no wine before bed.

I hope no one I know in real life ever reads this, guys.
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Post by: Sappho on July 18, 2013, 03:14:29 pm
Someone advised me to read this: http://www.urbandharma.org/pdf/mindfulness_in_plain_english.pdf
It's a how-to-start-with-meditation guide, and apparently can help overcome chronic terminal ennui. Haven't started on it yet (of course), as procrastination is way more important. Will report if I get results.

I've been reading through this a bit more today. First of all, I'm 25 pages in (about a quarter of the book) and it's still just introduction, going on and on about all the reasons why I should keep reading, all the amazing things this book will teach me to do... eventually?

More importantly, though, is the descriptions of what Vipassana meditation is all about. From what I understand so far, it basically seems to be training people into autistic (detail-oriented) perception: really seeing and thinking about everything going on around you all the time - hearing every sound, seeing everything for what it really is. This is what I do already, what I've always done, what I can't turn off. When I see "grass" I actually consciously see each blade of grass, and some part of my brain is always thinking about the fact that this grass is actually billions of tiny factories for turning sunshine into more grass, and how young each blade of grass is, and how quickly each will die and turn into dirt, and the different ways it can be killed. I notice every detail of growth in my houseplants and can spend hours looking at them. When someone rude bumps into me walking down the street, my mind floods with possible explanations for his rudeness, the bad day he might have had, the rude person who might have bumped *him* earlier and put him in a bad mood. I'm always conscious of how transient everything is. Especially since I started all my little "experiments," I'm always fully aware of how fleeting my moods are, how impermanent absolutely everything in life is.

And the book is saying that this way of viewing the world and thinking about life will bring you peace. This is where I do a double-take. This kind of awareness takes a level of processing above and beyond what a normal (neurotypical) mind does, and it's constantly overwhelming. That's why autistic people have such difficulties! We're trying to process way more than our brains were designed to process. There's a reason people see only a generalized outline of reality: because it's all they can handle, and it's all they need to continue the species.

I'm very curious to see how this little manual will explain how this kind of awareness can bring you peace. This ought to be very interesting!
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Post by: Tiruin on July 18, 2013, 06:59:41 pm
...crying for no reason, then angry at myself for crying for no reason, and spiraling thusly onward until I decided I needed a push...

...imaginary friends can be really surprisingly helpful.
I can really relate with these parts :/

Just the notion of someone comforting and helping you when you're down and not alright with what's going on in your perspective really gives a boost to morale.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Siquo on July 19, 2013, 04:31:14 am
Someone advised me to read this: http://www.urbandharma.org/pdf/mindfulness_in_plain_english.pdf
It's a how-to-start-with-meditation guide, and apparently can help overcome chronic terminal ennui. Haven't started on it yet (of course), as procrastination is way more important. Will report if I get results.

I've been reading through this a bit more today. First of all, I'm 25 pages in (about a quarter of the book) and it's still just introduction, going on and on about all the reasons why I should keep reading, all the amazing things this book will teach me to do... eventually?

I'm very curious to see how this little manual will explain how this kind of awareness can bring you peace. This ought to be very interesting!
Haven't read beyond a single page yet, will do so in the coming week, so don't hold it against me if the book sucks :)
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Post by: Sappho on July 22, 2013, 03:46:37 am
I haven't been tracking much of anything, but I also haven't been doing much of anything. No writing or drawing or painting, only minimal cleaning, a LOT of sleeping. A lot of feeling depressed. Today, however, I'm feeling good. Analysis must take place, obviously.

Today is the free day from training. Yesterday I intentionally pushed myself a bit too hard. There's only one week left of summer training and then I have to work full time for 2 weeks! So yesterday morning I went to training (a bit late but not too much). I was sleepy the whole time. Could NOT wake up all the way. Hadn't slept much the night before either because a few of us had gone out for drinks after afternoon training and I got home way too late. Anyway at the morning training a bunch of people were planning to go to a pub for dinner after the afternoon training and I agreed to go with them, which meant I would have to go to afternoon training too.

I went home, made lunch, had a shower, and tried to take a nap, but just as I was on the edge of falling asleep I realized it was time to leave for afternoon training, so I dragged myself back out of bed and out into the world. I was pretty lethargic the whole time, just couldn't snap out of it. I probably wasn't a very good training partner because I couldn't provide much resistance, and my reaction time was uselessly slow. At the end, though, we headed to dinner. By this time I was already a bit overstimulated and was thinking maybe it would be better to go home, but I made myself go anyway. When we go to the restaurant I managed to sit next to my teacher and across from a guy I am starting to develop an interest in, so I had a comfort zone, but we were a big group and many of the women were laughing really REALLY loudly and I thought I'd lose it.

Fortunately by focusing on conversation with just one or two people I managed to feel a bit better, and in the end I had a nice time. When I finally got home it was quite late and I managed to get to sleep fairly quickly, completely exhausted from the day.

The really interesting part is that today I feel quite good. Although I did wake up once during the night, I slept much better than usual, and although I was groggy at first, it didn't take too long to wake up all the way, and now I don't feel particularly tired. I feel as though I can finally focus on some things - I will get some writing done today for sure. I don't feel the desire to lose myself in video games, and I haven't watched any videos yet, just listening to music in the background (even dancing a bit).

So, the question is, why do I feel so good today? I don't often feel this way and there has to be a reason. I have 2 theories, but it won't be easy to test them.

The first theory is that after two nights of not sleeping and two days of physical activity, my body finally overrode my brain and I got more "proper" sleep for a change, so I feel more rested today and not depressed. Past experiences would seem to contradict this though. Usually it doesn't matter how exhausted I am; I just don't sleep properly and am always tired.

The second has to do with this guy I'm starting to be interested in. Until just the past couple of days I never really thought of him in that way. I didn't know him very well. I tend not to be attracted to people physically until I get to know their personality - if they turn out to be someone I like, I start finding them physically attractive. (I consider this an advantage, since I'm not chasing people based purely on looks.) So I've been spending a lot of time feeling shitty and stressed about this girl I'm infatuated with. She was the only object of my affection. Now I have someone else to think about, someone who actually seems interested in me, someone who won't play the same games with me as the girl has. We had really nice conversations last night. Time will tell if I'm just on a rush from the idea of it, or if it is sustainable.

The same guy has also been making his own kombucha for years, and he gave me a large portion of his starter mushroom (SCOBY) so I can make my own. My first batch has been brewing for just over a day now. It's very exciting. Actually, I need to get some cheesecloth to cover the jar with (I'm just using a thin handkerchief now but it probably needs to breathe more), but I have NO IDEA where one buys cheesecloth. Can anyone guide me? What kind of store do you go to for cheesecloth? I also need it to try making soya milk.
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Post by: DJ on July 22, 2013, 03:59:50 am
Try farming supplies store.
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Post by: Sappho on July 22, 2013, 04:03:17 am
I live in a major city and I don't know of any farming supply stores here. Maybe a hardware store?
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Post by: DJ on July 22, 2013, 04:10:12 am
I doubt it. And you should find a farming supplies store somewhere on the outskirts, probably within public transport range. Try googling around for it. If Czech is like Croatian, the exact name will be more like Agricultural Apothecary.
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Post by: Sappho on July 22, 2013, 04:34:57 am
Hmmm... It seems I can get muslin cloth at baby supply stores, and apparently that might be even better than cheesecloth. I will try that first.

I suppose there's also always the option of buying these things online, if I can't find them in meatspace.

I also need to find some large mason jars for brewing. Right now I'm using a large glass pitcher, but I can't secure the cloth over the top because of the shape, and it's not really big enough. I know where to find small mason jars, but not large ones. Not sure where to look for that in Prague. Also I want to get some of these swing-top bottles for storing the drink when it's ready. I thought I could find them at IKEA but they didn't have them. I suppose I will go to the shopping center today and check out the Tesco Hypermarket - it can be surprising the things you find in there. And if they don't have what I need, I can check out the other stores there, never know, might get lucky.

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTy2ezl5Da_sXfTirJKqCXxhCrukFRujBdWf2OzRGtJeRxbYdOcGQ)
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Post by: DJ on July 22, 2013, 04:39:16 am
I've seen some expensive beer sold in bottles like those around here. I bought one for the bottle (beer didn't really justify the price), for storing rakija. You can check liquor stores for beers in such bottles.
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Post by: Sappho on July 22, 2013, 04:44:00 am
That's true, I can do it that way. Might even be cheaper than just buying the bottles, depending on the beer. That's another reason to try Tesco first, then - they have a big selection of beers at the hypermarket and good prices.

In fact, I can probably find some big glass jars with cabbage or utopenec or something in them and just use the jars from that. The lids are not usually re-usable because the smell of the food gets permanently bound to the rubber or plastic lining, but for brewing kombucha I don't need a lid.

Oh my goodness, am I actually getting excited about going to the supermarket?

It's not going to be easy to transport the big jar of stuff home though. That's probably the only time I ever miss having a car: when I have to transport bulky heavy groceries home!
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Post by: DJ on July 22, 2013, 04:53:29 am
Meh, who needs a car? Just work a bit on that guy you mentioned, and in no time at all you should have someone to carry heavy stuff for you ;)
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Post by: Sappho on July 22, 2013, 06:51:41 am
Well the trip to Tesco was mostly a disappointment. No really big jars, no flip top bottles despite about 50 types of beer. The biggest jar I was able to find was a pickle jar, doesn't look much bigger than 1 liter, maybe 1.5 (I'll measure it once it's empty). I bought it anyway, because I like pickles and it's a better jar than the one I'm currently using. And I have spacial perception issues, so it may turn out to be bigger than it looks. Still not as big as I was hoping for though. There's nothing quite like the gallon jars of... well, everything, really, that can be found in the big American supermarkets (and that Europeans love to make fun of).

I won't need the flip top bottles until it's ready, so I've got some time to keep looking around. I know at least one pub that sells many types of foreign beer by the bottle, including several with flip tops, but it's a bit pricey so I'll look at other places before I go there.

They also didn't have any muslin cloth even in the maternity/baby section, but that was a long shot anyway. I'll check maternity supply stores soon. There may have been one at that shopping center, but my bag was so heavy when I left Tesco that I just came home for now. In any case, the handkerchief I'm using seems to be okay for now. It's very breathable: I double-checked by folding it over a few times and holding it over my face, and I was able to breathe just fine. If I can breathe through it, I'm sure the scoby can too.

One cool thing I did find is they have a small home brewing section. I grabbed a couple of packets of "general purpose" brewer's yeast. I've been wanting to try making ginger beer for ages. It's supposed to be extremely easy and quick to make, and also you can't really buy it around here and I miss it.
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Post by: Sappho on July 23, 2013, 10:07:23 am
Hooray! Success! Went to Tesco today (a different one) and found not only a french press for only 250 kc (about $12.50), so I can finally have real coffee instead of instant, but also four swing-top bottles of beer! The brand is nothing I'm particularly fond of, but I'll choke it down for the bottles, no problem.

(http://www.salenateka.cz/vyrobkyfoto/s/100001910003.jpg)

It's an unfiltered beer with 5% alcohol content. Better be careful with this one. It was cheap though. Like... Suspiciously cheap. 25 kc per bottle. The funny thing is, they were also selling empty bottles for 250 mutha-fucken crowns each.

They also had a 5 liter mason jar for quite a good price, but I decided not to get it for now. It would have been a nightmare to get it home, and 5 L might be a bit too much. I'm not even sure where I'd put it. Right now I'm munching on one of my pickles and resisting the temptation to test my in-progress kombucha.

Regarding emotional state today, when I woke up I immediately decided not to go to training. I felt like a puddle of sludge. The cat napped lovingly on my chest for nearly an hour with me watching him before I could finally drag myself up enough to feed him. I played video games for a short time, then made breakfast, then did my push-ups, then painted for a while. I started a new painting last night which is clearly going to take a while to finish, but I'm happy with the idea of it so it'll be worth it. I'm trying to push myself to do a little at a time, not to burn myself out on it. Slowly I started to feel depressed, so I decided I'd better get up and do something. I did one more set of push-ups (I'm up to sets of 10 today!), got dressed, and headed out shopping.

First stop was the secondhand bookstore. They always have a bin of 10-kc books outside (that's about $0.50). They put it outside because they don't even care if people steal these books, they're so useless. I dug through until I found a couple with interesting old illustrations I can butcher and use for various art projects. Then I got some falafel (chatting with my Slovak friend who works at the pizza/gyros place and doesn't speak any English while the falafel cooked) and walked to the supermarket.

It was a longer shopping trip than I expected, and I was really exhausted by the time I got home, but I definitely feel better than I did before.

So, analysis. I think I might be trying to push myself too hard with the Taiji training thing. I want to make use of the time, so I want to go to every training, but when it comes down to it, I don't particularly care for most of what we do at these trainings. When we have normal 1.5-hour classes, we use the time to learn and refine the form and do a few other exercises. But during these 3.5-hour sessions, my teacher uses the time to play with partner exercises and "practical applications" which are not actually very practical, and I don't actually enjoy that stuff very much. The parts I like the most are standing (which is better done at the end of the day when the body is loosened up, rather than at 8:30 in the morning), going through the details of the form (which we don't do until about 10:45) and learning a new form, the Master Huang Refined Simplified form, which we don't do until after 11. Those three parts together add up to be about an hour and a half, but I'm trying to go for more than twice that amount of time and I'm not enjoying most of it. For sure it's better than sitting around doing nothing, but after 3 weeks of going almost every single day, I think I'm burnt out.

My teacher will happily teach me the new form whenever we have spare time. And we'll go through the details of the form plenty of other times. It's not really the end of the world if I miss one or two days here and there during this month. So it might be better for me not to go every day now... BUT I have to find productive ways to spend that time. And I still have to practice. AND I can also go to training late. I'll only miss the parts I don't like, since my favorite parts are right at the end. Better, even, to get there late and not be completely exhausted by the time we get to my favorite parts.

I suppose it would be prudent to make a list of activities which are acceptable uses of my time, particularly when I'm skipping training. Even during regular down time, it's actually kind of surprising I haven't thought to make a list like this yet, to push myself a bit more away from video games and movies.

-Drawing/Painting
-Writing
-Reading
-Practicing taiji
-Playing with the cat
-Exercising (push-ups, jumping rope, etc.)
-Going for a walk/hike
-Cleaning
-Cooking
-Practicing cajon
-Meeting friends for just about anything
-Listening to music and singing/dancing
-Reading up on the books I'll need for the next school year

Activities which must be limited:
-Video games
-Watching TV/films
-Napping

I'm very open to other suggestions for things that should be added to these lists. I feel like they look awfully short, yet I can't think of other things to put on there... When did my life get so boring?
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: DJ on July 23, 2013, 11:00:00 am
I'd push meeting friends to the top of that list. Small talk over a cup of coffee can be surprisingly effective against mild depression. Even better than going out for coffee would be inviting them over. You'd have a reason to get up and clean the place and maybe even bake some cookies, ie it'd keep you busy in a purposeful way. And then you can play cards or some board game to burn the rest of the day.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 23, 2013, 11:21:48 am
True, with limitations of course, since social interaction takes a pretty big toll on me. The list is in no particular order anyway. The biggest problem with that is that my friends simply aren't around much right now. Everyone's off on their summer holidays, and the ones who are still here are working all the time. I've been trying to invite people over for ages (for precisely the reasons you list) but it never seems to work out. I'll keep trying though.

For now, most of my social contact comes from the taiji training. Some of that is great, but some is not. I really strongly dislike several of the people in our group, but I have to interact with everyone equally.

I had the first cup of real coffee and it was amazing. Now I'm drinking the first beer. It's actually much better than I expected, though it's nothing special. Average beer. I'm very surprised it has such a high alcohol content - it doesn't taste like it. And it doesn't look unfiltered, either. Very clear.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 24, 2013, 02:25:45 am
I seem to be having a problem of taiji motivation. Having given myself permission to show up late or not at all, I no longer feel any drive to get there. Instead of pulling myself out of bed, I just hit snooze until it's very late. Right now they've been training for an hour and 15 minutes already, and I'm still sitting here eating breakfast.

If I could get there on time (or close to on time), I could do the beginning parts I like (standing, form) and then just sit to the side with a book while they do all the partner work, until we get back to the form. (I'm thinking that maybe one of the reasons I'm getting so burnt out is because the partner work requires so much more energy from me than the individual exercises, and I just can't keep it up.) But if I can't get up early enough for these first few parts, I don't want to get there when they're doing the partner work, because then I'll have to do it.

Today I've decided to stay home until 9:30, then walk over there slowly. If I get there shortly before 10, I will probably still have to do practical applications with a partner, but I'll miss the other partner work, and I won't have to do it for very long before we get to the form details.

It's tempting to just not go at all, but I already missed one day of the new form and I don't want to fall behind on it. That new form is the main reason I want to go every day and I want to take advantage of the chance to learn it.

Regarding tracking myself, I think I'm not going to try to use a paper chart until I start work again, but I will try to keep loose track of how I feel during and after various activities. Trying to hack my responses to things: which activities should I turn to when feeling depressed, to cheer me up? Which should I limit? Which should I do before bed? Etc. Some of these might seem obvious, but they aren't all.

So, today. Woke up feeling sluggish, fatigued. (Had one beer last night - a while before bed and I was not intoxicated when I went to bed, but it still might have an effect.)
Realize how late I am, how much training I keep missing: depressed. Angry with myself for being unable to handle it, when everyone else is going to both mornings *and* afternoons and no one is complaining of being tired or burnt out.
Decide to go later and have some breakfast: motivated to use this time productively. Washed dishes, tidied kitchen a bit, ate something healthy instead of the Tesco pastry I was planning to get. Feeling still sluggish and drowsy, a bit dreading training, but relieved I'm at least getting something done.
Writing this: much easier to focus when I'm writing! More and more dreading going to training. Trying to push away thoughts of just not going at all.

EDIT:
Before leaving for training I burst into tears for no apparent reason, surprising and confusing myself. At this moment it occurred to me that this is right about the time I should be getting HORMONAL.
On the way to training, every step of the way I had to fight the desire to just go back home. Intense fight-or-flight instinct (leaning hard towards flight, obviously).
During training, quite foggy, not exactly in high spirits, but better than I felt beforehand. Avoided most of the partner work, did well during the form training.
After training, everyone was going to lunch at a nice Indian restaurant but I decided to come home instead, save some money, take a rest. Cook. Very tired on the walk home, but overall feeling better than before I went. Not sure if feeling better than I would have at this time, had I just stayed home instead.

Important piece of information: we are not going to learn any new pieces of the refined simplified form after today. We're through 3 of the 4 sections but the teacher has decided there isn't enough time to learn the last section. Instead, we're going to go through what we know already and polish it up a bit. This will likely damage my motivation to keep going to class, but at least if I really just can't go, I won't be missing anything critical.

An issue I'd like to try to resolve: I'm noticing that I stink a lot lately. I used to wear antiperspirant, but when I realized it wasn't working and I was sweaty and smelly anyway, I decided to skip the harsh carcinogens and switch to deodorant instead. The problem is, the deodorant doesn't seem to be working either. I sweat a lot (thanks for the genetics, mom) and it seems I just sweat the stuff right off, especially during 3 hours of training out in the sun. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there anything I can do, other than just hiding in a cave and never coming out until the weather gets cold?

EDIT:
Took a shower - freaked out about how stinky my armpits were. I scrubbed them with soap then sniffed and discovered, to my dismay, that they STILL smelled a bit. Scrubbed 3 more times and finally got the smell out. So overall feeling was stressed and worried.
After shower - dried armpits and applied antiperspirant, and kept my arms up over my head so it could dry completely. Anxious.
Cooking lunch - feeling pretty good. made a really nice soup with noodles (and with no salt). no stink so far.
Eating lunch / watching classic Doctor Who - feeling pretty happy.
Finished lunch - constantly inspecting my armpits for smell, horrified to discover a bit of stink. I haven't gotten any exercise and as far as I know I haven't sweated at all. WHY on earth do I smell?
Started laundry, thinking about working on my painting. feeling pretty happy but still a bit anxious about the stink.

Painting, Doctor Who, cup of real coffee from my new french press - Mostly pretty happy/content. Slightly frustrated with some of the painting, but I'm sort of learning a new technique so problems are bound to arise.
Video game time! - tried to play Sword & Swourcery EP but the damn thing won't work. After 5 minutes of fiddling around it suddenly started jerking and skipping and then froze up entirely with the music skipping in the background and the screen blank white. Realized that my computer was overheating (HOW after FIVE minutes?), managed to get the thing closed in another 5 minutes, probably won't be playing that game again. Mood - annoyed but not overly upset. I have too many games to play already. Maybe I'll go read for a while and let the computer cool down.

Went to the market for veggies and herbs and a few other things - felt a bit foggy but nothing terrible. Felt pretty happy when I got home with all the ingredients for taboule and an ambition to make homemade bagels sometime in the next couple days.
Made dinner (taboule!) - Quite happy.
Ate dinner while watching Doctor Who - Still quite happy. I love that episode (the Unicorn and the Wasp)
Read some off my current book (Anansi Boys) - uncomfortable in the chair but enjoying the book. Quite pleased at how quickly I'm getting through it despite its length.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 25, 2013, 02:23:45 am
Hm... The age poll thread has brought it to my attention that most of the forumgoers here are far younger than I am. Somehow I always imagined I was one of the younger members. I did join when I was but a fresh-faced young 21-year-old, but that was 7 years ago...

Today I don't think I'm going to training. But I don't actually feel bad about that. I'm not missing anything new, not really, and I actually have all kinds of plans for today. I don't know if I'll get everything done, but here's the list:

-make homemade bagels
-boil the batch of dried soy beans I've had soaking overnight
-do the same for the batch of black beans (maybe make some refried beans?)
-do a thorough deep-cleaning - haven't done this in too long. this includes tidying & vacuuming living room, kitchen, and bathroom
-clean out the fridge (long overdue)
-maybe organize the cabinets in the kitchen and the storage in the living room
-get some serious reading done (I got nearly halfway through Anansi Boys last night)
-get some serious work done on this painting
-do some WRITING for that BOOK which I haven't worked on in a week

I think I better cut myself off there. I probably won't get it all done today, but I shouldn't have much trouble staying productive.

The biggest finding of this morning is that I'm actually feeling motivated and positive (despite cloudy weather). I did not consume any sedatives before bed last night, and I think that's related. No alcohol, no smoking, no sedative tea. Just read the book until my eyes got droopy and went to bed. I still woke up feeling groggy as always, but it wore off more quickly than usual and now I'm feeling just fine. I don't even stink! (I keep checking just in case.) I spent about half an hour looking through my Tumblr dashboard (full of artists and funny animal pictures mostly) and got some good inspiration. Also watched that video of Bill Nye talking about asteroids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agdvt9M3NJA). Can't believe this guy is still doing his thing. I remember watching him as a kid. He has just gotten better with age.

So I'm going to put the first batch of beans on to boil now (or maybe I'll just do both at once) and get some painting done.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 25, 2013, 01:24:25 pm
Well I'd say that it's been a reasonably productive day. I am a little disappointed that I spent too much time playing DF (trying to get used to Masterwork for a future turn in a succession game) and watching TV shows, but I accomplished enough that I shouldn't feel too upset.

-Made the beans. The black beans cooked up far quicker than I expected and were delicious with some eggs. I still have some left over to make refried beans with. The soybeans took fucking forever, just like last time, and still didn't seem to get as soft as they should have. I wonder if maybe I have a bad/old batch of beans. Anyway, I decided that I'm going to get a blender at long last, and start making soya milk, since it seems so easy and buying it is just so damned expensive. I mashed up some of the cooked beans and strained out the liquid to test a cloth handkerchief I have to see if it can be used like cheesecloth, and it worked pretty well. Not nearly enough beans to make actual soya milk from, but I did mix the dry bean paste with some sugar and shove it in the fridge molded into a little tupperware container and am looking forward to it as a snack tomorrow.
-Made the bagels and they were an enormous disappointment. Felt pretty intense frustration when I realized they sucked, though thankfully it went away quickly. I think I've finally figured out why: I'm so used to American recipes using "all-purpose flour" that I didn't realize this recipe called for bread flour (VERY easy to get in this country). I'll try again soon with better flour and hopefully they will turn out nice, since you can't easily buy bagels in Prague.
-Tidied and vacuumed the living room. Spent loads of time cleaning in the kitchen, but it was mostly trying to keep up with the cooking mess and it looks just as messy now as it did this morning. Didn't do anything with the bathroom, or any of the detailed organizing.
-Did loads of reading. Am more than halfway through Anansi Boys (after 2 days!) and also more than halfway through Equal Rites (Discworld), which I'm reading on the computer since I don't have an e-reading device.
-Did a little bit of painting. Not as much as I meant to because the light was low (cloudy day) and I couldn't see what I was doing well enough. Might try to do a bit more before it gets dark.

No writing. Hardly thought about taiji, which I think is good. Give myself a proper break from it. I'll try to go tomorrow.

Overall, felt pretty good today. I have a terrible feeling that I can probably find a direct link between alcohol/sedatives and mood the next day. I love drinking. I love beer. I love the taste of it, the feel of it. I'm even starting to enjoy wine. It's not that I want to get drunk all the time, but I really love these drinks and I will be frustrated if I can't drink anymore because it messes up my whole next day.

I did my push-ups today. Sticking with sets of 10 for a while, since it still feels like a lot. Haven't done any taiji. Might try to do some standing before bed. I always intend to and I always forget.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 26, 2013, 02:04:11 am
Day Start: 26. July (Friday)

No Taiji. Will go for weekend (last 2 days of training).
Woke up feeling good. (No sedatives last night)
Doing the dishes - content
Catching up on internet (mostly tumblr) - calm, relaxed, slightly drowsy
Playing with cat - very happy, if a bit scratched up
Catching up on the B12 forums - calm, neutral
Making/Eating breakfast (shitty bagel) and starting a new game of DF - calm, neutral
Playing DF - up and down. Getting occasional frustration but mostly slightly happy, quite focused. Trying to keep an eye on the time so I don't lose the whole day to games.
After DF - slight feeling of fatigue and disappointment that I have accomplished so little so far today.
Reading - quickly felt better. Thoughts constantly drifting to DF though. want to go back and play.
Trip to the market for ingredients - Quite happy. For some reason, imagined meeting up with an old friend I haven't seen or spoken to in many years and had a nice imaginary chat while I shopped and walked home, showing off my awesome life.
Cooking - focused, neutral. Ups and downs of feeling but nothing significant.
Eating, watching classic Doctor Who, cup of coffee - very happy. Delicious from-scratch food (homemade fajitas with homemade refried beans, totally sodium-free except for the tortillas) and an absolutely hilarious episode.
Got a message from taiji teacher checking that I'm okay and inviting me to whiskey tasting tonight - slight discomfort at the thought of going out and socializing, slight happiness knowing that he thinks of me, confusion about whether I want to go or not - knowing I'll probably have fun if I do, but alcohol will probably mean a bad day tomorrow and the socializing will be difficult after 2 days of quiet calm.
Second round of fajitas and doctor who - still quite happy. this episode was just as excellently terrible as the last and i was laughing loud enough to annoy the cat.
After food/tv - suddenly very sleepy, laid down to take a nap. In bed maybe half an hour, slept maybe 2 minutes but seemed to be enough. When I woke up my first thought was "oh my god I'm so FULL"
DF for a while - happy but slightly distracted by social anxiety about whiskey tasting
Reading - finished Anansi Boys! Such a great book. also had me laughing loud enough to annoy the cat.
Short session of Dungeons of Dredmor - just about 20 minutes, hadn't played in a while. felt satisfying cleaning out a monster zoo.
After DoD - suddenly very sleepy again. Sent teacher a message that I won't be coming to the whiskey tasting. would take a nap but seems silly to do so this late (about 19.15).
Short period of painting, last 20 minutes of sunlight - calm and focused. Had an episode of Burn Notice playing in the background, ended up just watching that when the light got too dim.
Cleaning up food from lunch - was very happy to see all my stuff side by side in my little "leftover fajitas" tupperware box.
DF for a while - for too long really. didn't want to stop, but can feel myself getting sleepy. disappointed that I didn't get more done today but not feeling terrible. Would REALLY like to have a drink but will not allow myself to, have decided to go to taiji tomorrow morning even if i don't feel great.

A productive thought for today: I have a very strong tendency to start projects and then get bored and walk away from them before they're finished. I tend to try to push myself to go back to them but once I've crossed that line, I just don't want to look at it. But when I look at old projects that I never finished, I get a whole new rush of inspiration. Maybe I should try implementing a "rotating project" system. Instead of burning myself out on my current passion, I should limit how much I do it, and not do it every day. I'll make a list of creative endeavors and rotate through them when I have spare time, so I won't spend too much time on any one thing and no longer want to do it. I'll have to think of enough things to fill out the list, but that shouldn't be difficult.

Off the top of my head, tentative list of megaprojects:
-Current watercolor painting
-Old acrylic painting I haven't touched in a while
-Writing for my book
-Drawing comics (haven't done in Too Long)
-Practicing taiji
-Standing
-Baking / other time-consuming cooking activities
-Organizing storage/cabinets at home
-Oil painting (can only do during hot weather - allergic to the fumes, need to leave windows wide open for hours after)
-Number crunching my data charts (still a lot of work to do with those)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 27, 2013, 08:36:38 am
Hope someone is still reading and I'm not just flooding the forums with my boring daily routines. : )

Went to Taiji this morning and found myself strangely energetic and generally pretty happy. It's really hot outside though. In fact, I didn't sleep much last night because it was too hot. If I pushed the blanket off me and laid naked in the bed, the temperature was right, but thanks to my hypersensitivity, the feeling of air on my skin makes me itch, so I couldn't sleep from that. Then I put the blanket or a shirt on and I was too hot. Today should be even hotter.

My internet has been on and off for the past week or so. Today it went down for over an hour. I finally decided to call customer service (they have 24/7 tech support and an English help line) to ask them what the deal is and if I can at least get a discount for all these outages (I'm paying for the most expensive package they have), and wheeee, there's apparently no English tech support on weekends. Fortunately it's back up now, but I won't count on it staying up. This has made me pretty frustrated. I have friends who use the same company and they never have any problems. If there's an issue with my connection, they need to either fix it or at least give me a discount for the shitty service, or else I might just finally cancel my plan and switch to another company.

I've been thinking more about this "rotating project" idea. I think I need to add more things to the list. I've basically listed the things I'm actively working on now, but I'm already starting to lose interest in some of them. I think I should have more than one project of each type, and set limits for how much time I can spend on each one per day, forcing me to not burn myself out even when I have a rush of inspiration. (If this proves counter-productive I will obviously cancel the idea.) To fill out the list, I'll combine current projects, past projects that I'm once again interested in, and new ideas that I can start working on. I'll fill in the specifics later (have a terrible headache today). For sure there are several comics I can work on, several paintings, and my motivation to write about autism has been pushed down by my motivation to write a book about "hacking your brain" to achieve maximum happiness, so I might as well start writing that too.

Also, I can't believe I haven't thought to write this down: a week or so ago a guy in my taiji group made an offhand comment that caused me to start a new experiment. He pointed out that morning coffee/tea is actually a bad idea because you'll crash from the caffeine in the middle of the day. It's far better to have your coffee or tea in the afternoon, so the crash happens around when you're going to bed. This was too logical not to try, so for the past week, I've had no caffeine in the mornings, and one or two cups of coffee (so much fun with my new french press) around lunchtime. I have noticed that:
1. I'm almost never falling asleep during the afternoon.
2. I'm having a somewhat easier time getting to sleep at night (other factors notwithstanding).

The next step is obviously to test how big a role the caffeine is playing. So today I'm not having any caffeine at all. None whatsoever. I suspect this is the reason for my headache, which is actually a pretty good sign that I should be cutting back on the caffeine anyway. The questions are:
1. Do I get sleepy in the afternoon? (I'm already sleepy but I did only get a few hours of sleep last night, so it's tough to tell.)
2. Will I be able to sleep at night without the "crash"?

Oh, and one more idea: I have my old computer sitting in the cupboard, unused. It still works, although the battery no longer holds a charge and it must stay plugged in. It's slow and sluggish, but I never had any major problems with it. If I'm trying to work on this computer, I tend to get distracted by the internet and games. I'm thinking that maybe I can clean out that old machine, delete all entertainment software, and just use it for writing and work. I don't know how effective it'll be, since it's easy enough to just turn on this computer when I want to play games, but it's worth a try. (As an added bonus, the old one runs very cool. This one is always in danger of overheating because DELL MAKES SHITTY COMPUTERS. Never buy a Dell, guys. NEVER.)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on July 30, 2013, 12:56:52 pm
Too exhausted from the second day of work to do any kind of real thinking about anything. Just some general observations that might be significant:

First off, have to keep in mind during all this that I am quite hormonal, so likely feeling worse than I would otherwise.

Sunday night went out to the goodbye party for my Taiji residential, got slightly drunk on a combination of beer, good absinthe, and amazing whiskey. Expected a hangover the next day but surprisingly felt physically OK. Mentally went into the day with high expectations that this time it would be fun and I wouldn't let little things get to me. Turned out to be a fucking nightmare. I want to punch my coworker right in the face. Right in her fucking smug lazy face. Eczema hadn't been too bad for a while but was really terrible yesterday. Presumably from stress. Was very drowsy all day.

Decided not to have any caffeine yesterday (presumably it'd only make me more irritable) and had no sedatives whatsoever in the evening. Got sleepy early, went to bed quite early.

Today was almost exactly the same as yesterday, if not worse. Even without caffeine or alcohol or anything, I felt exactly the same. Just as sleepy, just as miserable. Eczema just as bad. Still want to punch that stupid lazy fucking bitch right in her stupid face. So tonight I'm going to have a beer with dinner, because fuck it, not drinking didn't help and I need a drink.

8 more days at this school (with the weekend break in between) and then I never have to see it again. Send all your happiest vibes, if you believe in that sort of thing. Also, if you believe it might help, feel free to make a voodoo doll of my coworker and set it on fire.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on August 01, 2013, 12:25:17 pm
Yesterday was quite a nice day. The beer made it slightly more difficult to get out of bed but I didn't have any trouble from it the rest of the day. The 2 most difficult boys were not there so the class was quite calm, which surely helped.

Last night I had 2 beers and smoked a little bit of cannabis before bed, mostly as an experiment. Today it was quite difficult to wake up, and I was quite sleepy most of the day - but that is surely also related to the fact that the monthly curse hit me just after lunch, so it's hard to draw conclusions to that. Certainly I was calmer and more laid back today, despite the difficult kids being there causing trouble and the lazy coworker being typically useless. Again, hormones are likely a factor here. For the first time in a while I had a coffee this morning and another after lunch (to try to fight the sleepiness). It made only a very small difference. I did get really sleepy around 2 pm - possibly a caffeine crash, possibly simply the result of the hormone fluxuations. Again, this is a difficult time to draw any conclusions, thanks a lot mother nature.

Strength training has been continuing using the medicine ball while I give my wrists a break. I am not waking up with sore arms, not sure if that's a good sign (that I'm getting really strong) or bad (that I'm not training enough to really work the muscles).
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: scrdest on August 02, 2013, 07:39:57 am
As a random voice on the internet, I say:

Try to not use cannabis. Not exactly great for you. Not legally (barring the few places it IS legal If you live there, disregard this point), physically, mentally, or socially (seriously, that stuff can be smelled from a mile away, and most people I know of find the smell disgusting.)

It's... weird. I've had a couple of... colleagues...? I guess, that smoked it, and it's just... odd. Warrants usage of multiple ellipses, at very least :P.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on August 02, 2013, 12:26:51 pm
I don't want to derail this thread with debate about marijuana, but just quickly to respond to concerns:
It is not illegal where I live, for personal use. It has been proven to have various physical and mental/psychological benefits for many people and at times is the only thing standing between me and a nervous breakdown. Socially, that depends on your social group: in mine, it's fairly ubiquitous. (In fact, that is true of this entire city.) Some people abstain and there's no pressure or judgment directed towards them (sort of a "cool, more for us if you don't want any!" attitude), but most of them smoke and none of them have a problem with it. America is the only place I've ever been where people have a problem with it, actually, and I can't for the life of me figure out why, aside from the fact that they're told from birth that it's "bad" and have to worry about jail time if they get caught smoking (most ridiculous thing ever).

All that said, I very rarely smoke because it tends to make me groggy the next day (and sleepy immediately), and I would never push anyone to use it if they didn't want to. That would be like pushing someone to drink chamomile tea or eat only "live cultured" yogurt. Just because the stuff has health benefits for me and I like the taste doesn't mean it's for everyone, and really, I could care less what other people put in their own bodies, as a general rule.

Today was very rough. I hardly slept at all (maybe an hour, max 2) due to diarrhea and cramps from the monthly curse combined with my cat being crazier than usual (might be related to me having the monthly curse, need to start keeping track of that). Kids were quite wild and when I excused my sleepiness to the lazy bitch teacher and explained my night, she laughed and replied that she hadn't slept either because her boyfriend is going on a trip so they were up all night together (GAH too much fucking information). She then proceeded to complain incessantly about how exhausted she was and then sleep for a truly unacceptable amount of the day (more than an hour, all told), and was even more useless than normal, leaving all the work to me.

My stomach has finally calmed down but I still feel pretty shitty. I probably won't be posting too much for a few days or keeping track of anything. Anyway we've got another heat wave so I can't run the computer too much. I did start a StoryNexus story, though, based on DF. Assuming I get it to a usable state, you guys are invited to be the first to test it.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: scrdest on August 02, 2013, 12:41:04 pm

...Today was very rough...


GAH WHY DID I READ THAT AS 'TOADY'?!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Siquo on August 06, 2013, 07:01:06 am
(GAH too much fucking information)
I see what you (maybe subconsciously) did there :P
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Carnwennan on August 06, 2013, 01:58:35 pm
(the OP is probably hilariously out of date by now but whatever)

I am a vegetarian -have been for 7 years or so (Started refusing meat around the age of 10). Never took a single supplement in my life.

I am interested, however, what effect taking B12 supplements would have and -after all- there are not recorded negative effects of taking more than you need. I would be happy to record results on that chart you had in the OP, but looks like it broke somewhere :(. Doing a little research (ie the webpages on the first page of Google), apparently adults stockpile the stuff; Stockpiles that tend to last ~10 years.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on August 09, 2013, 05:12:09 am
Ah, yes, need to update the first post. (The B12 did absolutely no good whatsoever.) I'll try to do it soon, sorry about that.

Sorry I've been neglecting this thread. These past 2 weeks are the last 2 at my hellish preschool job and they have not been easy. Today is my last day, but on Tuesday I started getting horrible stomach pains, and it now appears that I have an ulcer. (I suppose that says something about how terrible this job is.) I won't have time to see a doctor until tomorrow but they should be able to heal it up with some pills. Until the pain stops I probably won't be very productive. I haven't managed much more than the occasional rant about Facebook (I've decided to quit, will have to track some data on that) and one short succession game entry which took all my energy.

My last day finishes in 3 hours. Then I go home and wait for the internet repair man to come look at my connection and try to figure out why I can't connect when it's raining outside. (I'm pretty sure the problem is not in my apartment but they want to look anyway, and I have to let them in.) Then I will probably go straight to bed, as I have been doing very early all week, try and fail to sleep, and feel hungry yet simultaneously unable to eat. Wheeeeeeee!

But better days are coming. Soon.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on August 10, 2013, 05:56:26 am
I want to share a bit about my experience at the hospital today. It was very memorable.

I got sent to the surgery department initially. Many departments are closed on weekends and this was the most general doctor they had. After some bumbling about looking for the right place and trying to answer personal information questions in Czech, they took some blood and then I went in to see the doctor, who turned out to be a handsome young man who spoke perfect English. He asked me about my symptoms, felt around my stomach area a bit, then said it did sound like an ulcer, but they needed to be sure. He sent me for x-rays and ultrasound.

The x-ray was quick then I got send in to the radiologist's office for the ultrasound and analysis. This woman was hilarious. She spoke a few words of English but when she spoke Czech she used simple words and spoke very clearly, so I had no problem understanding her. After the tests were done she sat down next to me and delivered an lecture (in the manner of an affable but concerned great-aunt) about how I'm too young to have these sorts of health problems (no argument from me). She said that in America I can do what I like, but as long as I'm living in the Czech Republic I have to keep myself healthy. No alcohol, no spicy food, no partying, no stress. I assured her that I hardly drink and I almost never go to parties, and I eat healthy. I promised that the stress was mostly from my job, but I have just finished that job and things should get better. She said that was good, but didn't seem entirely convinced.

Then she called me over to her computer where the x-ray was on screen. She pointed out that my lower spine was very obviously curved. Then she pointed out some issues on other parts of the x-ray, that certain things that should be moving around freely were all smushed together. She told me I absolutely have to get more exercise - I told her I do taiji every day and she seemed pleased with that. She said taiji is probably the best kind of exercise to do for these problems, and I must continue with it and not get lazy. Then she told me I must eat well and, more importantly, SLEEP well. I laughed and said I have terrible sleep problems. She thought this over and then wrote down some contact info on a slip of paper - she said this man, Dr. Hu (Hu! Like WHO!), is the best acupuncturist in Prague. I must call on a weekday after 10 am and tell them I've been sent from this hospital and they'll know what to do with me.

She was so funny and so friendly that I was in a very good mood as I went back to the surgeon. He said based on the test results, there's no ulcer, but there's definitely a moderate irritation in my upper bowel and I will have to make an appointment with gastroenterology next week (they're closed on the weekend). They will probably want to do a colonoscopy, he said, and I tried not to think about that. He said for now I have to stay CALM and eat only very gentle foods for a few days, but I should be okay. After describing a few other problems I've been having he said there is also an excellent endocrinologist who can check my thyroid, and a sleep lab where I can get assessed for narcolepsy. And he assured me that yes, you CAN have narcolepsy even if you have trouble falling asleep at night.

All in all, I feel much better after the visit. Some part of me is always worried that I'm making a big deal out of nothing and there's nothing really wrong with me. As unfortunate as it is that I have so many health problems, looking at that x-ray and talking to those doctors made it clear that it is most certainly NOT all in my head, nor is it the pure product of anxiety. Yes, I am sick. But yes, they can help me.

Anyway, my mother is coming on Wednesday and staying for a week. That's generally a stressful thing, but I'm finding reasons to look forward to it. First of all, she's offered to basically pay for everything, since her trip here is otherwise pretty much free. That will be good, since it seems I won't have any paid work until October. Also, she's bringing me my newly-ordered VivoBarefoot shoes (half the price in the US as here!) and a few used books I ordered. And she's always called me a hypochondriac, but now I have it down on paper that I really do have all these problems, and I can rub that in her face a bit. I might even take her to the hospital with me when I go for the gastroenterologist.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Skyrunner on August 10, 2013, 10:39:03 am
Hospitals are always so many checks and stuff and then it turns out to be not as bad as you thought :3

(except when it's not...)
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on August 17, 2013, 04:38:38 pm
Apologies for the lack of actual experiments lately. I've been caught up in the irrationality of real life. My mother is visiting and I haven't had more than an hour of private time since Wednesday.

I finally met up with the girl i'm in love with today. I finally told her how I felt, in my awkward and silly way, and asked her how she felt. It was like pulling teeth. She wanted to change the subject, send me away, not answer the question, leave it in limbo. In the end, what she finally confessed was that
1. she is totally into me. Totally. She likes me and she finds me attractive.
2. she wants to be alone right now. She is pretty satisfied with her single life and doesn't want to fuck with it just yet, after her 8-year long-distance relationship ending last fall.
I made it clear that we're cool, we can be friends, no pressure. But half-joking I told her that if she wants to be alone, that's totally cool, I've been alone most of my life and it is generally pretty rad. But if she wants to date someone else, I'll be super jealous. I also told her that now it's clear that she knows how I feel (apparently she did all along but didn't respond because of mixed feelings) I will not be making the moves on her, and if she ever decides she wants something to happen, SHE needs to make a move on ME. She agreed. We had a very long hug before she left.

My own mother told me that this girl is clearly totally into me, prompting my bravery in awkwardly confessing my feelings. She told me I make her feel "shy and embarrassed" and it took a lot of teeth-pulling to get her to explain that she knows I like her and she likes me but wants to be alone for now. We were both giggling like embarrassed 12-year-olds trying to confess our feelings. She is definitely interested in maintaining a friendship but it is now clear to me that she doesn't want anything else for now.

I'm proud that I finally told her how I feel (though I didn't tell her everything, played it a bit "cool" in the sense of only telling her I really like her, which she apparently already knew, didn't say things like "in love with"). I'm glad to know for sure that she knows how I feel and is only unsure of her own position at the moment. I'm happy to maintain a friendship as long as i know she's single.

Previously I was concerned that she didn't know how I felt, that I didn't express myself well enough. So I was always trying to indirectly show my feelings, to send the signals. She didn't respond. I wondered if maybe she has AS too and was just as clueless as me. I now know that she does not (she said as much, though she also said she has her "own issues" that she flat-out refused to discuss) so I will not be so pushy and hopefully she will feel less pressured and more comfortable with me.

What I should do is back off and get over it for now. This is not going to happen. I'm still in love and now I know that while she is not in a position where she wants a relationship, she's totally into me. There is not going to be any getting over her on my part. As long as there's hope (and strong hope at that) I'm going to continue to obsess. Whether this is wise or not is irrelevant. It just is. And I'm aware of it, and for the first time I'm aware of the full situation.

We invited her to come cave exploring tomorrow with me, my mother, and a few friends. She said maybe - a very positive-sounding maybe, stronger than I usually get from her. I don't know if she'll really come, but she seemed genuinely interested. She wants to meet sometime next week for drinks. She seemed like she really meant it.

From her words and body language and tone, she seemed to really want to continue our friendship without it getting complicated. So much so that she was willing to tolerate my advances without comment. I hope that now we're clear on how we feel, it will be less awkward. I really hope that she'll get more comfortable with me and less closed-off, share more about herself, be less stressed around me.

The very short version: I'm desperately in love, she's totally into me, and it's not going to happen anytime soon. But it might happen eventually. So I can't get over her, can't move on, will do everything in my power to seem non-threatening and cool.

Ha! Cool... The opposite of me. The fact that she finds me in any way attractive despite my incredible awkwardness... I'll never find a more perfect woman (or man) for me.

Good night, world!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Skyrunner on August 19, 2013, 09:22:27 am
Yay!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Tiruin on August 19, 2013, 09:37:05 am
:D

That's wonderful!
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on August 19, 2013, 03:33:46 pm
Thanks guys! She came with us on a trip to some caves near Prague yesterday. We spent the whole day together and it was wonderful. I noticed that she is suddenly not shy or nervous around me. She used to always refuse to share personal things with me and it was always impossible to get her to spend time with me away from work. Now it's like suddenly everything is okay, like she's not afraid of me anymore. It seems my theory was probably correct:
1. She had feelings for me all this time but didn't feel ready to be in a relationship.
2. She was afraid to spend time alone with me because I might make a move on her and force her to say how she felt.
3. She was afraid that if she told me she couldn't date me right now, I'd tell her we couldn't be friends, and staying friends with me was important to her.
4. Now that she realizes that I'm okay with being friends and I'm not going anywhere, she is no longer afraid of scaring me away and all the barriers have come down. We can finally be close.

This may be a narcissistic view of the situation but it fits all the facts. Even more narcissistic is that I'm convinced now that she's spending real time with me and getting to know the "real" me (not the miserable work version of me), and we'll get to know each other properly, she'll see that I am awesome and eventually she'll stop feeling the need to be alone and Good Things will happen. But she knows it's on her to let me know if she wants something more.

That, or she'll break my heart and I'll cry for months. I'm going to go ahead and not worry about that possibility unless it happens.

I'm just ridiculously happy. I keep realizing that I'm staring off into space and smiling, thinking about her. Strangely, however, I'm not sleeping well. Last night I only slept about 3 hours (and had nightmares the whole time). Normally when I wake up from sleeping (as happens frequently), I am able to get back to sleep pretty quickly, but last night, every time I woke up, I woke up ALL the way and wasn't able to get back to sleep for hours afterward. I've also had a bit of an upset stomach for days and haven't eaten enough, but have no appetite.

For now I'm assuming it's because my mother is still here and I haven't had any time or space to myself since last Wednesday. My apartment is a DISASTER as well. She just keeps throwing things all over the place (she was always a slob) and then demanding that we leave the house and do stuff constantly so I never get time to clean (and eat all our meals in restaurants, which means a lot of things I would never normally eat). Tomorrow is her last day here, then Wednesday morning I take her to the airport. I can't wait.

I'll update with details on my sleeping habits after she leaves.
Title: Re: Sappho Experiments On Herself - And You! [Summer Vacation!]
Post by: Sappho on September 03, 2013, 01:00:20 pm
Hello again, friends. I had decided to let this die because it had become less about my experiments and more like a blog, and I vowed never to have a personal blog again (I'm not an angsty teen anymore). But now I have a new experiment that needs running, and I need help figuring out how to do it.

Since my last 2 weeks working at the old job from hell, I seem to have developed tinnitus. Before then, I would get ringing in my ears every once in a while, usually only for a few seconds. It definitely started while I was working at that school. My hypersensitive hearing just couldn't deal with all the screaming. Those last 2 weeks seemed to have pushed me over the limit. By the end of the last day, aside from the horrible stress-induced gut pain I described before (which has not come back since despite my resuming my regular consumption of spicy food and alcohol), the ear-ringing appears to have become permanent.

It's been about three and a half weeks now and it's starting to drive me mad. With my sensory issues, having a constant sound in my ears is like a custom-tailored torture designed to drive me to insanity. I need a certain amount of silence each day or I can't fully recharge my batteries. I haven't had silence in 3.5 weeks. You can see the problem.

I know there is no cure for tinnitus, but I've heard that different people find different ways of lessening it. There's even the possibility that it could be temporary, depending on what's causing it (although it seems likely that it's caused by ear damage, which would probably be irreversible). I need to experiment. I need to figure this out. Because the moment I accept that there is going to be a high-pitched screaming sound in my ears every waking second of my life until the day I die, I will surely descend into a terrible depression.

The only thing I've found so far that seems to be true is that drinking wine makes it worse. I base this on the past two nights of drinking wine. Each time I didn't have too much, just a couple of glasses, but it increased the volume of the ringing to the point where I couldn't sleep. So the first step is to not drink any wine and see if it gets better.

I will also have to try drinking other alcohols and see how it effects me. I might discover that beer is fine, for example. Or whiskey. Or absinthe. I hope absinthe is okay. But I'm staying off of alcohol for at least a few days to see if it gets any better.

The other strong possibility is that it's worsened by depression. I've heard there is evidence for this. Things in my life are going quite well at the moment, but I have been doing the same thing almost every day for the past few weeks: get up, turn on writing computer, write for hours, draw/paint a lot, listen to some music or watch some programs, play some games, bed. I drink a cup of coffee at the same time every day. I don't really talk to other people much.

It has been a very productive period of time, but I'm not getting much exercise of social contact. I need to make a change here. I can feel myself starting to get depressed and I don't want to let that happen. Tomorrow I'll go to taiji training in the afternoon. I also have a new pair of "barefoot" style running shoes - I may try to get myself up early in the morning and go running for the first time since high school. Overall, if I can reduce the feeling of depression, I'm hoping the ringing will get better as well.

Finally, I need to track things and get some hard data about how I'm doing. I know I can't trust my own memory for this. The problem in this case is that thinking about it, focusing on it, seems to make it worse. Like, maybe I'm able to forget about it or block it out, but if I check to see if it's there, it always is. I'm not sure what to do about this. I can't be keeping a chart and marking down every hour whether I hear it or not, because I always will, and it will get worse that way. I suppose I could try to mark it down at times when I notice it, but even having that sort of chart waiting to be filled in will make me think about it more. I'm very open to suggestions here.

Any other tips, suggestions on things to try, ideas, etc. are very much welcome right now. I may not be able to cure this, but I at least need to find a way to come to grips with it and deal with it, and for me that includes understanding it as well as possible.