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Finally... => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dr.Propz on January 12, 2012, 07:35:23 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L54exo8JTUs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L54exo8JTUs)
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This is how I imagine 10 hammerlords killing a siege
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Ah, yes. That video.
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I think 4-5 hornets went down, maybe....
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For the hive!
Those poor little bees :(
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I feel really sorry for the bees having to fight an adversary that has evolved to demolish their entire species with ease.
Then I feel awesome that the underdogs can still win with teamwork and unconventional tactics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EZtXNIT5QQ&feature=related
Different type of bee, but awesome nonetheless.
I'm sure everyone here has seen it, but I guess it's on topic.
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I was watching other vids, it really interesting.
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Japanese bees.
Say it, repeatedly.
Anyways, really cool, the European bees really could use some heavier hitting weaponry, tank bees or maybe berserker bees that dual wield other bees like big bee-flails or something.
Also the Japanese bees made me think of Skyrim, a lone dragon attacks an unguarded village of sheep, as soon as it bits into one of them BEEPILE. Then they smother him with their numbers and a Beevakhin apporaches to absorb it's soul and gain it's power of awesomeness.
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What documentary is that? I really want to watch it now.
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Oh dear god, why did I click that, I know I'm terrified of those stinging bastards why did I click that why
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I think 4-5 hornets went down, maybe....
COSTLY VICTORY
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I think 4-5 hornets went down, maybe....
COSTLY VICTORY
So pretty much a regular siege in DF?
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I think 4-5 hornets went down, maybe....
COSTLY VICTORY
So pretty much a regular siege in DF?
COSTLY COSTLY VICTORY
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I feel really sorry for the bees having to fight an adversary that has evolved to demolish their entire species with ease.
Then I feel awesome that the underdogs can still win with teamwork and unconventional tactics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EZtXNIT5QQ&feature=related
Different type of bee, but awesome nonetheless.
I'm sure everyone here has seen it, but I guess it's on topic.
So, 1000 cats versus one Bronze Colossus? I must see these all in a DF light
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So I'm watching the documentary, it's called "Buddha, Bees, and the Giant Hornet". It's really interesting, it's about giant hornets, domestic bees, and wild bees in Japan, and this Buddhist monk who keeps wild bees, which is really tricky since they like to pack up their hives and leave if they feel unsafe.
He has this really interesting method of attracting them. This guy is just really... zen.
It's nice.
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Interesting stuff, that. I wonder how those gigantic wasps would fare against Africanized honey bees...
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Gigantic... bees? You mean the wasps? They're, uh. Not exactly the same thing.
Bees aren't that bad. Make honey, interesting social structure. Plenty of 'em won't even sting you.
Wasps are one of nature's bastard animals. They keep some other fairly nasty things populations down, but the way they go about it is right up there on the "Proofs there can be no loving God" list.
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Also Africanised Honey Bees would probably do rather well against them since they are much more aggressive.
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Yeah, that's what I meant to type. :-\
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Hmmm, maybe I'll keep bees some day, it looks interesting.
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Hmmm, maybe I'll keep bees some day, it looks interesting.
Its a lot more work then it seems and requires a lot more study and knowledge then it would at first glance.
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Also Africanised Honey Bees would probably do rather well against them since they are much more aggressive.
Nope. Once hornets track a bee's nest, the bees are pretty much doomed. There is a type of bee however that eliminates the hornet scouts... Rather effectively :P
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Also Africanised Honey Bees would probably do rather well against them since they are much more aggressive.
Nope. Once hornets track a bee's nest, the bees are pretty much doomed. There is a type of bee however that eliminates the hornet scouts... Rather effectively :P
I was speaking comparitively.
Especially since ALL the bees will attack instead of just some of them.
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Also Africanised Honey Bees would probably do rather well against them since they are much more aggressive.
Nope. Once hornets track a bee's nest, the bees are pretty much doomed. There is a type of bee however that eliminates the hornet scouts... Rather effectively :P
I was speaking comparitively.
Especially since ALL the bees will attack instead of just some of them.
These guys do better ;P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EZtXNIT5QQ)
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You think anyone would volunteer to move a killer bee hive to Japan, and then let the giant hornets fight them, if we told them it was for !!SCIENCE!!? 'Cause now I'm curious.
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You think anyone would volunteer to move a killer bee hive to Japan, and then let the giant hornets fight them, if we told them it was for !!SCIENCE!!? 'Cause now I'm curious.
No... because that would cause a huge environmental problem.
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What if we took a killer bee hive and a giant hornet hive, and moved them to a tiny patch of sand in the middle of the ocean? No?
Damn ecology, always screwing up SCIENCE.
:P
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The wild bees the Buddhist monk keeps in the documentary are really meek towards humans. I really wish I could rear those.
It's just unfortunate there's so much standing in the way of it. Maybe in the future someone could genetically engineer a European bee that has that humbleness towards humans attribute.
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I bet it's because the Japanese bee's knows karate.They know they can kick some human butt, so they don't have to be afraid.
Start a Karate School for European bees if you want them to be the same.
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I wonder how many years of exposure to Japanese Hornets it takes to make the European bees able to fight back. The bees don't seem to even try. Or maybe they just suck at aerial combat, while the hornets are flying smoothly. And for a species that's known for teamwork, they're not even working together.
Then again, the hornets' mouth is about the size of a bee's head, and the bees don't really stand a chance against that armor.
I wonder if keeping those hornets can be considered biological warfare.
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I wonder if keeping those hornets can be considered biological warfare.
Apparently they kill dozens of people every year in Japan. Local beekeepers probably wouldn't be very happy either.
Also, Slurm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_hornet#Hornet_supplement_manufacturers):
Recently, several companies in Asia and Europe have begun to manufacture dietary supplements and energy drinks which contain synthetic versions of secretions of the larvae of Vespa mandarinia, which the adult hornets usually consume. The manufacturers of these products make claims that consuming the larval hornet secretions (marketed as "hornet juice") will enhance human endurance because of the effect it has on adult hornets' performance. Because these products are marketed as dietary supplement rather than pharmaceuticals, they do not have to support their claims. Some studies[16] have suggested that the vespa amino acid mixture itself may influence animal performance in minor ways.
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I wonder how many years of exposure to Japanese Hornets it takes to make the European bees able to fight back. The bees don't seem to even try. Or maybe they just suck at aerial combat, while the hornets are flying smoothly. And for a species that's known for teamwork, they're not even working together.
Then again, the hornets' mouth is about the size of a bee's head, and the bees don't really stand a chance against that armor.
I wonder if keeping those hornets can be considered biological warfare.
It doesn't matter how good they are at teamwork (Bee-ball aside). There's no way for their stingers or mandibles to harm the hornets. With the way the hornets go at the bees, I doubt they'd survive long enough to evolve their own bee-ball, probably just go extinct in that area.
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I wonder how many years of exposure to Japanese Hornets it takes to make the European bees able to fight back. The bees don't seem to even try. Or maybe they just suck at aerial combat, while the hornets are flying smoothly. And for a species that's known for teamwork, they're not even working together.
Then again, the hornets' mouth is about the size of a bee's head, and the bees don't really stand a chance against that armor.
I wonder if keeping those hornets can be considered biological warfare.
Biological? No.
Entomological warfare? YES :D :D :D
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Also, Slurm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_hornet#Hornet_supplement_manufacturers):
Recently, several companies in Asia and Europe have begun to manufacture dietary supplements and energy drinks which contain synthetic versions of secretions of the larvae of Vespa mandarinia, which the adult hornets usually consume. The manufacturers of these products make claims that consuming the larval hornet secretions (marketed as "hornet juice") will enhance human endurance because of the effect it has on adult hornets' performance. Because these products are marketed as dietary supplement rather than pharmaceuticals, they do not have to support their claims. Some studies[16] have suggested that the vespa amino acid mixture itself may influence animal performance in minor ways.
Let me get this straight...they made a drink that contains juices from a giant hornet's favorite snack? There is no way this can possibly go wrong.
"Why do they keep biting me??!! WHYYYYYYY"
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*after watching this video, Tellemurius made the notion to always carry a big ass can of WD-40 and his lighter whenever he visits Asia again.*
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*after watching this video, Tellemurius made the notion to always carry a big ass can of WD-40 and his lighter whenever he visits Asia again.*
OI! YOU'RE BURNING THE ECO-SYSTEM!
Now quiet down and take your hornet nest to the face like a manly man. Of manliness.
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There's no way for their stingers or mandibles to harm the hornets.
They could cut their wings off I guess.
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There's no way for their stingers or mandibles to harm the hornets.
They could cut their wings off I guess.
Whilst it's underneath their carapace? This isn't Dorf Fortress, so no The bee bites the hornet in the eye from behind!
Though I admit that would be amazing if someone broke mother nature like that.
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Hornets can't fold their wings under carapace. You're thinking of beetles.
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Hornets can't fold their wings under carapace. You're thinking of beetles.
Point's still valid when they're eating your head :d
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They can only eat one head at a time and there's 1k bees for every hornet.
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They can only eat one head at a time and there's 1k bees for every hornet.
Hornets are built to kill bees. And what hornet would attack a colony with 1k bees per hornet? That colony would be COLLOSAL. Besides, what do you do when your hordes of peasants can't kill the Bronze Colossus?
These guys do better ;P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EZtXNIT5QQ)
Magma.
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And what hornet would attack a colony with 1k bees per hornet? That colony would be COLLOSAL.
I? What? That is exactly what this is.
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It's in thread's title for Pete's sake.
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And what hornet would attack a colony with 1k bees per hornet? That colony would be COLLOSAL.
I? What? That is exactly what this is.
Me being stupid :p
def. keeping for glorious monuments.
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Also, Slurm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_hornet#Hornet_supplement_manufacturers):
Recently, several companies in Asia and Europe have begun to manufacture dietary supplements and energy drinks which contain synthetic versions of secretions of the larvae of Vespa mandarinia, which the adult hornets usually consume. The manufacturers of these products make claims that consuming the larval hornet secretions (marketed as "hornet juice") will enhance human endurance because of the effect it has on adult hornets' performance. Because these products are marketed as dietary supplement rather than pharmaceuticals, they do not have to support their claims. Some studies[16] have suggested that the vespa amino acid mixture itself may influence animal performance in minor ways.
I can't be the only one around here wondering what it would be like to buy a whole bunch of that stuff and just feed it directly to the hornets :D
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I'm wondering if I need to start checking my beverages to make sure that "hornet juice" is not an ingredient.
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I'm wondering if I need to start checking my beverages to make sure that "hornet juice" is not an ingredient.
Would anyone else buy it?
...I would :S