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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2012, 01:44:25 am »

Gigantic... bees? You mean the wasps? They're, uh. Not exactly the same thing.

Bees aren't that bad. Make honey, interesting social structure. Plenty of 'em won't even sting you.

Wasps are one of nature's bastard animals. They keep some other fairly nasty things populations down, but the way they go about it is right up there on the "Proofs there can be no loving God" list.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2012, 01:47:23 am »

Also Africanised Honey Bees would probably do rather well against them since they are much more aggressive.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2012, 01:49:07 am »

Yeah, that's what I meant to type.  :-\
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2012, 02:02:03 am »

Hmmm, maybe I'll keep bees some day, it looks interesting.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2012, 02:05:18 am »

Hmmm, maybe I'll keep bees some day, it looks interesting.

Its a lot more work then it seems and requires a lot more study and knowledge then it would at first glance.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2012, 02:09:12 am »

Also Africanised Honey Bees would probably do rather well against them since they are much more aggressive.

Nope. Once hornets track a bee's nest, the bees are pretty much doomed. There is a type of bee however that eliminates the hornet scouts... Rather effectively :P

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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2012, 02:10:23 am »

Also Africanised Honey Bees would probably do rather well against them since they are much more aggressive.

Nope. Once hornets track a bee's nest, the bees are pretty much doomed. There is a type of bee however that eliminates the hornet scouts... Rather effectively :P

I was speaking comparitively.

Especially since ALL the bees will attack instead of just some of them.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2012, 02:12:18 am »

Also Africanised Honey Bees would probably do rather well against them since they are much more aggressive.

Nope. Once hornets track a bee's nest, the bees are pretty much doomed. There is a type of bee however that eliminates the hornet scouts... Rather effectively :P

I was speaking comparitively.

Especially since ALL the bees will attack instead of just some of them.

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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2012, 02:23:54 am »

You think anyone would volunteer to move a killer bee hive to Japan, and then let the giant hornets fight them, if we told them it was for !!SCIENCE!!? 'Cause now I'm curious.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2012, 02:25:51 am »

You think anyone would volunteer to move a killer bee hive to Japan, and then let the giant hornets fight them, if we told them it was for !!SCIENCE!!? 'Cause now I'm curious.

No... because that would cause a huge environmental problem.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2012, 02:39:04 am »

What if we took a killer bee hive and a giant hornet hive, and moved them to a tiny patch of sand in the middle of the ocean? No?

Damn ecology, always screwing up SCIENCE.

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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2012, 02:46:30 am »

The wild bees the Buddhist monk keeps in the documentary are really meek towards humans. I really wish I could rear those.

It's just unfortunate there's so much standing in the way of it. Maybe in the future someone could genetically engineer a European bee that has that humbleness towards humans attribute.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2012, 04:05:04 am »

I bet it's because the Japanese bee's knows karate.They know they can kick some human butt, so they don't have to be afraid.

Start a Karate School for European bees if you want them to be the same.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2012, 06:35:10 am »

I wonder how many years of exposure to Japanese Hornets it takes to make the European bees able to fight back. The bees don't seem to even try. Or maybe they just suck at aerial combat, while the hornets are flying smoothly. And for a species that's known for teamwork, they're not even working together.

Then again, the hornets' mouth is about the size of a bee's head, and the bees don't really stand a chance against that armor.

I wonder if keeping those hornets can be considered biological warfare.
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Re: 30 Asian hornets vs. 30,000 honey bees
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2012, 06:57:46 am »

I wonder if keeping those hornets can be considered biological warfare.

Apparently they kill dozens of people every year in Japan. Local beekeepers probably wouldn't be very happy either.

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Recently, several companies in Asia and Europe have begun to manufacture dietary supplements and energy drinks which contain synthetic versions of secretions of the larvae of Vespa mandarinia, which the adult hornets usually consume. The manufacturers of these products make claims that consuming the larval hornet secretions (marketed as "hornet juice") will enhance human endurance because of the effect it has on adult hornets' performance. Because these products are marketed as dietary supplement rather than pharmaceuticals, they do not have to support their claims. Some studies[16] have suggested that the vespa amino acid mixture itself may influence animal performance in minor ways.
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