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Title: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3/LoTR discussion.
Post by: Morpha on May 24, 2012, 09:44:09 am
Not sure if it's been posted before, and wasn't sure if it would go in this forum, but was playing D3 and found this epic reference to Boatmurdered on the auction house. No way it's not a reference =P

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Didn't have any use for it, wasn't an upgrade, but I just had to buy it after reading the text on it. Anyone familiar with BM should remember how it ended and recognise it.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: rtg593 on May 24, 2012, 10:02:30 am
LOLOL, that's awesome!
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: GiglameshDespair on May 24, 2012, 10:03:17 am
Heh. Thats pretty cool.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: weenog on May 24, 2012, 10:04:37 am
Saw it before, but it's still awesome.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: rtg593 on May 24, 2012, 10:09:54 am
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/the-burning-axe-of-sankis

Yeah, they've been talking about it on here:p Sweet.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Musashi on May 24, 2012, 10:25:03 am
Honestly, if anything, it should give an Intelligence penalty.
This is Dwarf Fortress we're talking about. There isn't a fortress that is not doomed in some way by dwarven stupidity.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Blizzlord on May 24, 2012, 10:35:47 am
Dat references. DF in Diablo 3. What's up next, ponies?!
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Trif on May 24, 2012, 10:49:46 am
Obsidian axe!? Pff, everybody knows that 1) there are no obsidian axes in Dwarf Fortress and 2) Sankis killed with his burning fists.
Also, what is up with those stats? I propose a better item:

               THE BURNING BEARD OF SANKIS

  Legendary Beard                                                        1-Head
  31.8
  Damage Per Second
  17-32 Damage
  1.30 Attacks per Second
The ever-burning beard of the mad dwarf Sankis as he turned on
his own dwarfs inside their fortress. Even as he burned to death
himself, he would not stop his attacks on those he had once ruled.
                                                                   Unique Equipped
                                                                Required Level: 22
Sell Value: Gift for the Elves                               Durability: 2/31
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Morpha on May 24, 2012, 11:06:24 am
Perhaps Sankis forged one in the burning embers of his mighty beard, but it fell through- Screw it, a burning beard would be awesome.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Quietust on May 24, 2012, 11:28:23 am
Obsidian axe!? Pff, everybody knows that 1) there are no obsidian axes in Dwarf Fortress and 2) Sankis killed with his burning fists.
You missed one bit:
3) Sankis was female. See here (http://lparchive.org/Dwarf-Fortress-Boatmurdered/Update%202-6/) for proof.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: rtg593 on May 24, 2012, 11:49:41 am
Lol. Someone should go post that as a comment on the weapon. I tried, but it won't let me since I don't own the game :p
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Morpha on May 24, 2012, 11:50:24 am
Obsidian axe!? Pff, everybody knows that 1) there are no obsidian axes in Dwarf Fortress and 2) Sankis killed with his burning fists.
You missed one bit:
3) Sankis was female. See here (http://lparchive.org/Dwarf-Fortress-Boatmurdered/Update%202-6/) for proof.
Good point, but wasn't the player themselves male?

edit: Also while there are no obsidian axes, there are indeed obsidian swords.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: rtg593 on May 24, 2012, 11:53:39 am
Obsidian axe!? Pff, everybody knows that 1) there are no obsidian axes in Dwarf Fortress and 2) Sankis killed with his burning fists.
You missed one bit:
3) Sankis was female. See here (http://lparchive.org/Dwarf-Fortress-Boatmurdered/Update%202-6/) for proof.
Good point, but wasn't the player themselves male?

That only matters if the player was the one lit on fire while beating people to death ;)
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Morpha on May 24, 2012, 11:57:03 am
Looked up the part with the rampage, even if the dwarf itself was female, people are referring to it as a "he".

"That only matters if the player was the one lit on fire while beating people to death "
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened irl at some point, some sanity had to have been lost over the life of that fort =P
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Garath on May 24, 2012, 12:57:52 pm
did you notice it salvages into what looks very much like elephant ivory?
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Morpha on May 24, 2012, 01:03:31 pm
The fallen tooth? Wish I could say it was a reference, but rares and higher always give one (or more) in normal and iirc there's only two crafting materials (tooth from rares and higher, dust from blues) in the entire of normal mode (where it's found) so it's probably a long stretch. Just feels unlikely, as much as I wish it was true.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Trif on May 24, 2012, 01:06:24 pm
Obsidian axe!? Pff, everybody knows that 1) there are no obsidian axes in Dwarf Fortress and 2) Sankis killed with his burning fists.
You missed one bit:
3) Sankis was female. See here (http://lparchive.org/Dwarf-Fortress-Boatmurdered/Update%202-6/) for proof.
Yeah, community LPs always have a bit of gender confusion going on. In Syrupleaves, they just pretended that all the female dwarfs with male players wear fake beards.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Garath on May 24, 2012, 01:14:32 pm
The fallen tooth? Wish I could say it was a reference, but rares and higher always give one (or more) in normal and iirc there's only two crafting materials (tooth from rares and higher, dust from blues) in the entire of normal mode (where it's found) so it's probably a long stretch. Just feels unlikely, as much as I wish it was true.

for someone who doesn't play diablo (1, 2 or 3) it looks like a reference. Oh well, would have been funny
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: xcrissxcrossx on May 24, 2012, 01:30:02 pm
Actually it is quite common in all fantasy settings for Dwarven women to have the capability to grow beards. Even in Lord of the Rings, Gimli states that many humans don't know that Dwarven women exist because their beards make them look like men.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Oliolli on May 24, 2012, 01:37:44 pm
I think it was Aragorn who pointed out that it's because of the beards. At least in the movies, can't recall that part from the books right now  :-\
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Loud Whispers on May 24, 2012, 01:39:21 pm
The fallen tooth? Wish I could say it was a reference, but rares and higher always give one (or more) in normal and iirc there's only two crafting materials (tooth from rares and higher, dust from blues) in the entire of normal mode (where it's found) so it's probably a long stretch. Just feels unlikely, as much as I wish it was true.

for someone who doesn't play diablo (1, 2 or 3) it looks like a reference. Oh well, would have been funny

But... The entire axe is a bloody reference!!

I think it was Aragorn who pointed out that it's because of the beards. At least in the movies, can't recall that part from the books right now  :-\
Nah, was Gimli
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Nyotor Lizardhammers on May 24, 2012, 01:42:34 pm
Obsidian axe!? Pff, everybody knows that 1) there are no obsidian axes in Dwarf Fortress and 2) Sankis killed with his burning fists.
You missed one bit:
3) Sankis was female. See here (http://lparchive.org/Dwarf-Fortress-Boatmurdered/Update%202-6/) for proof.
Yeah, community LPs always have a bit of gender confusion going on. In Syrupleaves, they just pretended that all the female dwarfs with male players wear fake beards.
I thought female dwarves were bearded by default anyway?
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Trif on May 24, 2012, 01:48:21 pm
I thought female dwarves were bearded by default anyway?
Not in Dwarf Fortress! Luckily, it's very easy to mod them.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Vodrilus on May 24, 2012, 02:11:51 pm
I seem to recall that female dwarves _were_ bearded in earlier versions, perhaps before 0.31.x? I'm not entirely sure.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Loud Whispers on May 24, 2012, 02:15:10 pm
Certainly in .31 onwards, female Dwarves are not bearded by default
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Oliolli on May 24, 2012, 03:05:42 pm
I think it was Aragorn who pointed out that it's because of the beards. At least in the movies, can't recall that part from the books right now  :-\
Nah, was Gimli
In the books? 'Cuz I could sware it was Aragorn who mouthed "It's the beards" to Eowyn as he stroked his chin while on the way to Helm's Deep in the movies.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Loud Whispers on May 24, 2012, 03:52:36 pm
I think it was Aragorn who pointed out that it's because of the beards. At least in the movies, can't recall that part from the books right now  :-\
Nah, was Gimli
In the books? 'Cuz I could sware it was Aragorn who mouthed "It's the beards" to Eowyn as he stroked his chin while on the way to Helm's Deep in the movies.
beards (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5T89jfJoA)
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Oliolli on May 24, 2012, 04:01:03 pm
0:13. Aragorn and "It's the beards."
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Delta Foxtrot on May 24, 2012, 04:18:41 pm
beards (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip5T89jfJoA)

And the only thing going through my mind was "GUN SAFETY/DAT AXE!". Truly a dwarven example of how to handle an axe when surrounded by little children and the elderly.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Loud Whispers on May 24, 2012, 04:21:46 pm
0:13. Aragorn and "It's the beards."
...
I kinda watched it before I linked it ya know :P
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Dorfimedes on May 24, 2012, 04:23:32 pm
Wait, does that mean Gimli could be...

No. There is no way.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: wierd on May 24, 2012, 04:49:28 pm
His title is "Gimli, son of Gloin". Male.

But it would have made his questionable "chummyness" with legolas a bit less creepy. (The books are really suggestive.)
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Scruffy on May 24, 2012, 04:53:57 pm
So, Gimli is a manly girl and Legolas girly man  ???
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: therahedwig on May 24, 2012, 05:03:39 pm
His title is "Gimli, son of Gloin". Male.

But it would have made his questionable "chummyness" with legolas a bit less creepy. (The books are really suggestive.)
If it helps you, as far as I recall, Legolas was married and Tolkein elves had this mate-for-life thing going on, but then turned up to eleven.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: wierd on May 24, 2012, 05:14:14 pm
I don't think legolas was married.  As far as elves go, he was "young".  His dad, the king of murkwood, was against his leaving home, IIRC.

That still doesn't negate the extremely unmasculine "bromance" those two had.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Arbinire on May 24, 2012, 05:22:59 pm
In the books Dwarven women aren't referenced too often, and their appearences aren't mentioned at all.  This is why in LotRO there's no female option for the Dwarf race.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Scruffy on May 24, 2012, 05:35:18 pm
In the books Dwarven women aren't referenced too often, and their appearences aren't mentioned at all.  This is why in LotRO there's no female option for the Dwarf race.
Well, dwarfkind had 7 fathers but no mothers. Either there were females that were not mentioned, additional furry midgets getting created when they got woken up or Aule just made some "modifications".
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: wierd on May 24, 2012, 05:41:42 pm
LOL!

(The only female characters in the whole series are rose cotton, lobelia sackville baggins, arwen, the river woman, goldberry, shelob, and galadriel. These are all love interests of one sort or another, something horrible, or a primal force.  Rose = sam's #1 flame (after frodo), lobelia baggins = something horrible, river woman = primal force, goldberry = tom bombadil's #1 flame, shelob = something horrible, arwen = aragorn's #1 flame, galadriel = primal force/celeborn's #1 squeeze.  Oh yeah, there was the rohanim chick that axed the witch king of the nazgul. Only non-sexist female char in the series.)

I can clearly see why gimli would get the hots for a sexually ambiguous legolas, what with the long flowing blonde hair, and willowy frame and all.

(ROFL!)
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: davros on May 24, 2012, 05:56:43 pm
Actually, the roharim chick ended up married to Farimir. She did her bit, and then she went home and married like everyone else in the novel.
That's what happens when you read a novel written during WWII.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: krenshala on May 24, 2012, 09:29:36 pm
Actually, the roharim chick ended up married to Farimir. She did her bit, and then she went home and married like everyone else in the novel.
That's what happens when you read a novel written during WWII.
... written between 1915-ish and 1956, you mean.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: PoodleIncident on May 24, 2012, 10:11:43 pm
I've always preferred the Pratchett interpretation of dwarven gender roles. Everyone is a he, everyone wears leather and chain mail and a beard, and much of the courtship rituals are tactful ways to determine what parts the other dorf has. The feminist movement starts with the right to wear skirts, heels, and makeup.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Morpha on May 24, 2012, 11:42:32 pm
I love how derailed this has gotten  :)

Yeah, the Pratchett interpretation is my favourite too.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Mapleguy555 on May 25, 2012, 12:06:01 am
Actually, the roharim chick ended up married to Farimir. She did her bit, and then she went home and married like everyone else in the novel.
That's what happens when you read a novel written during WWII.
... written between 1915-ish and 1956, you mean.
Actually, the roharim chick ended up married to Farimir. She did her bit, and then she went home and married like everyone else in the novel.
That's what happens when you read a novel written during WWII.

I can't believe none of you remember her name, Eowyn.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: SAFry on May 25, 2012, 12:57:32 am
Well that explains why D3 took so long, they were playing DF!

Back in the Oblivion days there was a mod for equitable beards (no facial hair in vanilla Oblivion!), as an equitable item though you could enchant your beard.

Hang on a sec, *equips magic beard*, right ready!
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: G-Flex on May 25, 2012, 01:04:56 am
The axe giving you greater intelligence does seem pretty weird to me. Then again, I'm a little surprised by D3 having an "Intelligence" stat in the first place.

His title is "Gimli, son of Gloin". Male.

But it would have made his questionable "chummyness" with legolas a bit less creepy. (The books are really suggestive.)

Why is it creepy to you? Because they're both guys?
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Scruffy on May 25, 2012, 01:07:47 am
The feminist movement starts with the right to wear skirts, heels, and makeup.
Disturbing.

Reminds me of how I once got moody dwarves pretty early on and both crafted a short skirt. Since both of the crafters were 150year old manly Urists, I presumed that blue wool skirts were their fetish they were reliving in their last years. Now I know that they were trying to express their inner wodwarf. It takes some dwarfiness to wear a ¤short skirt¤ and high boots.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Dorfimedes on May 25, 2012, 01:11:40 am
Well, I expect that Dwarf Fortress is going to have a little joke in every game, now. Just give it time.
Remember the thread where someone pointed out there's a giant, washed out "Bay 12" in the terran base in SC2? That could have been written off as a coincidence but I'm becoming more convinced it was a subtle nod towards the site. Clearly, some people (or maybe just one guy, who knows) at blizzard are fans of DF. I definitely can see this becoming a recurring thing.

I can clearly see why gimli would get the hots for a sexually ambiguous legolas, what with the long flowing blonde hair, and willowy frame and all.
Does he NEED to be sexually frustrated? I mean, god damn. I'd bang him. I'll bet elves have super interesting sex too. But can you imagine trying to get in his pants with that life-long union thing? And then, he would totally outlive me by years anyway, and that's depressing.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Jake on May 25, 2012, 01:24:44 am
Remember the thread where someone pointed out there's a giant, washed out "Bay 12" in the terran base in SC2? That could have been written off as a coincidence but I'm becoming more convinced it was a subtle nod towards the site.

The name "Bay 12" is itself a reference; to one of the Alien Trilogy films, I think. Might've been a reference to that instead.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Dorfimedes on May 25, 2012, 01:34:47 am
Remember the thread where someone pointed out there's a giant, washed out "Bay 12" in the terran base in SC2? That could have been written off as a coincidence but I'm becoming more convinced it was a subtle nod towards the site.

The name "Bay 12" is itself a reference; to one of the Alien Trilogy films, I think. Might've been a reference to that instead.
Mmm, that would make sense. I was never really a starcraft fan but I think the zerglings drew some inspiration from the film. Unless it's a double-reference, but I'm getting ahead of myself here.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Naryar on May 25, 2012, 01:38:37 am
+15 Intelligence ? yeah right
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Delta Foxtrot on May 25, 2012, 02:20:54 am
Blizzard has made a Dwarf Fortress reference at least once (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/List_of_Dwarf_Fortress_references#World_of_Warcraft), in World of Warcraft. They're certainly aware of the game. But then again it'd probably be easier to mention something Blizzard doesn't reference in their games.

Starcraft 2 Bay12 (http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/6/65/HyperionArmory_SC2-WoL_Story1.jpg) reference is a lot more shaky, it might be a DF reference, especially considering the fairly dwarven character design of Mr. Swann who resides there. But then it's probably more likely that it's just a bulky guy in an Alien referencing cargo bay.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Oliolli on May 25, 2012, 06:26:07 am
Back in the Oblivion days there was a mod for equitable beards (no facial hair in vanilla Oblivion!), as an equitable item though you could enchant your beard.

Hang on a sec, *equips magic beard*, right ready!

"Dorfbeard the Beard of Dorfiness"

-20 Intelligence
+20 Speechcraft

No other effects.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: parlor_tricks on May 25, 2012, 06:59:08 am
I don't think legolas was married.  As far as elves go, he was "young".  His dad, the king of murkwood, was against his leaving home, IIRC.

That still doesn't negate the extremely unmasculine "bromance" those two had.

The book made it seem pretty clear that those guys were manly as all heck. As opposed to the movie where I despised the way they insisted on showing Gimli as slightly better than a buffoon.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Morpha on May 25, 2012, 08:15:23 am
I don't think legolas was married.  As far as elves go, he was "young".  His dad, the king of murkwood, was against his leaving home, IIRC.

That still doesn't negate the extremely unmasculine "bromance" those two had.

The book made it seem pretty clear that those guys were manly as all heck. As opposed to the movie where I despised the way they insisted on showing Gimli as slightly better than a buffoon.
"And my axe!"
Four pages of LoTR, and I'm the first to say that considering what the legendary item is? =(
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Scruffy on May 25, 2012, 08:47:23 am
Let me guess: The One Ring was an artifact Glumprong ring that moody Sauron made and started tantrumming after a man stole it?
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Blizzlord on May 25, 2012, 09:05:24 am
Back in the Oblivion days there was a mod for equitable beards (no facial hair in vanilla Oblivion!), as an equitable item though you could enchant your beard.

Hang on a sec, *equips magic beard*, right ready!

"Dorfbeard the Beard of Dorfiness"

-20 Intelligence
+20 Speechcraft

No other effects.
I could totally imagine that in an oblivion mod.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Morpha on May 25, 2012, 09:37:46 am
Let me guess: The One Ring was an artifact Glumprong ring that moody Sauron made and started tantrumming after a man stole it?

Probably a Kobold thief who killed the real Isildur and got a title which happened to be exactly the same. Why didn't anyone notice? Same reason they don't find clown diplomats weird.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Babylon on May 26, 2012, 01:39:35 pm
Actually it is quite common in all fantasy settings for Dwarven women to have the capability to grow beards. Even in Lord of the Rings, Gimli states that many humans don't know that Dwarven women exist because their beards make them look like men.

That's movie, not book.   He also says "dwarves are natural sprinters" which is in direct contradiction to the books where there is mention of a whole army of dwarves long distance running to a battle.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: krenshala on May 26, 2012, 01:44:23 pm
I'm going to the guess that was added by a (movie) writer that doesn't understand the difference between long distance running and sprinting.  The dwarves are lousy sprinters, but are very good long distance runners.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Babylon on May 26, 2012, 02:22:21 pm
I'm going to the guess that was added by a (movie) writer that doesn't understand the difference between long distance running and sprinting.  The dwarves are lousy sprinters, but are very good long distance runners.

More added by a writer who wasn't a LOTR fanboy who thought it would be funny, since he had Gimli say the exact opposite.  it as during the epic run where they were chasing down the kidnapped hobbits.

Movie companies really should know better than to let someone who isn't a complete geek about it work on writing the really epic stuff.  it's not like there's a shortage of supergeek talented writers, just look at fanfic.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Musashi on May 26, 2012, 02:26:32 pm
it's not like there's a shortage of supergeek talented writers, just look at fanfic.
Not the word I'd have used...
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Morpha on May 26, 2012, 10:52:39 pm
Enthusiastic is a better word.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3
Post by: Babylon on May 26, 2012, 11:45:58 pm
Enthusiastic is a better word.

The fact that there are ten shitty ones for every one with talent doesn't change the fact there's plenty of talented ones.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3/LoTR discussion.
Post by: Morpha on May 27, 2012, 01:00:53 am
Edited title to reflect the thread better  ;)

Evidently Gimli spent more time spamming job cancellations than doing his work, hence him not being as buff as the army.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3/LoTR discussion.
Post by: Blizzlord on May 27, 2012, 01:24:49 am
DF referenced in Diablo 3 --> LoTR discussion.
Only on Bay12.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3/LoTR discussion.
Post by: Loud Whispers on May 27, 2012, 06:43:11 am
Evidently Gimli spent more time spamming job cancellations than doing his work, hence him not being as buff as the army.
Gimli, legendary neurosurgeon, chief medical Dwarf of middle Earth. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypZLnDaqo1M)
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3/LoTR discussion.
Post by: dwarfhoplite on May 27, 2012, 06:50:39 am
Evidently Gimli spent more time spamming job cancellations than doing his work, hence him not being as buff as the army.
Gimli, legendary neurosurgeon, chief medical Dwarf of middle Earth.
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypZLnDaqo1M)
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Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3/LoTR discussion.
Post by: Morpha on May 27, 2012, 10:21:08 am
Evidently Gimli spent more time spamming job cancellations than doing his work, hence him not being as buff as the army.
Gimli, legendary neurosurgeon, chief medical Dwarf of middle Earth.
 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypZLnDaqo1M)
Urist McGimli cancels clean patient: Axe embedded in nervous system.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3/LoTR discussion.
Post by: Biopass on May 28, 2012, 12:33:00 am
Gimli was horribly botched in the movies. He was a very deep character. And I don't know where people are getting a creepy vibe from with him and Legolas... It's like Sam and Frodo. You bond when you've been through horrible things with someone. You love them as a brother. Tolkien knew that quite well, having served in the trenches in WWI. People that haven't been in similar situations with extreme camaraderie tend too often to interpret it as homosexuality, or just plain creepiness.

I'm disappointed that Jackson treated one of Tolkien's most interesting race like cliche, beer-swilling, Scottish-accented DND/Warhammer parodies. Tolkien's dwarves were his most tragic race by far, very serious and solemn. Jackson threw that out the window. Let's hope The Hobbit isn't as bad.
Title: Re: Boatmurdered recognised in Diablo 3/LoTR discussion.
Post by: Morpha on May 28, 2012, 12:58:10 am
Gimli was horribly botched in the movies. He was a very deep character. And I don't know where people are getting a creepy vibe from with him and Legolas... It's like Sam and Frodo. You bond when you've been through horrible things with someone. You love them as a brother. Tolkien knew that quite well, having served in the trenches in WWI. People that haven't been in similar situations with extreme camaraderie tend too often to interpret it as homosexuality, or just plain creepiness.

I'm disappointed that Jackson treated one of Tolkien's most interesting race like cliche, beer-swilling, Scottish-accented DND/Warhammer parodies. Tolkien's dwarves were his most tragic race by far, very serious and solemn. Jackson threw that out the window. Let's hope The Hobbit isn't as bad.
Can't be as bad as the cartoon version of the hobbit...Or the cartoon DragonLance movie. Damn, those were painful to watch.
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Post by: Korva on May 28, 2012, 01:44:52 am
Gotta agree that the treatment of Gimli was probably the biggest disappointment (aside from Frodo sending Sam away). It was okay in the first movie, but in the other two he really became nothing but comic relief, which really pissed me off. And I haven't even read the whole book.
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Post by: wierd on May 28, 2012, 06:26:35 am
Painful scene from "cartoon version of the hobbit", #1:

"Owin sir, and glowin sir; call him biffur and and him boffur...."

(Cliche midget voices that all use the same voice actor continue..)
(Horrible musical interlude.)

"Bang the cups and crack the plates, that's what bilbo baggins hates!"

(Author of post begins to feel sick to stomach. Song continues. Author cancels continue recording: too insane.)

(Cue 180deg change in tone from nauseatingly happy and sardonic to "wooooo solemn!" As musical score gives way woodwind themed "lonely mountain" theme, and dwarves suddenly realize they have testicles and sing in baritone about their "hall of stone". Bilbo makes dumbshit comment. Gandalf actually replies! Dwarves continue uberdeep, solemn song. Gandalf busts into horrible monologue that would make a super villian jealous. Bilbo pressured into going on the adventure, boom! dwarves forget they have testicles for the rest of the movie, except for singing this song. Aparently thier testicals bounce up and down in their scrotum's like yoyos on command, and in unison.)

Childhood == destroyed! (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cj2ZaOcNpIw)


This moment brought to you by:
the 12th bay! (Because all the other bays have sane people in them!)
A grant for the National academy for the arts (NEA)
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Typical youtube IP piracy
A cease and desist letter from the tolkien estate
And madness from viewers like you.
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Post by: Darkening Kaos on May 28, 2012, 06:36:45 am
Sounds like something Micheal Bay would do, {only he'd add aliens - maybe dorfs ARE aliens}.
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Post by: wierd on May 28, 2012, 06:43:02 am
See the linked youtube video. Exagerations are minimal!
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Post by: WealthyRadish on June 02, 2012, 09:25:57 pm
It seems torchlight references DF as well. One of the dungeon tiers is a 'Dwarven Fortress', with one of the quests being to obtain some 'adamant ember' that the dwarves forged.

Edit: It's 'adamant ember', not 'adaman'.
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Post by: Klitri on June 02, 2012, 09:37:29 pm
Honestly, if anything, it should give an Intelligence penalty.
This is Dwarf Fortress we're talking about. There isn't a fortress that is not doomed in some way by dwarven stupidity.
Oh my goodness, so true, Everyone was estatic and they went into tantrums 3 seconds later. D: R.I.P Boltcradle.
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Post by: krenshala on June 02, 2012, 11:53:35 pm
It seems torchlight references DF as well. One of the dungeon tiers is a 'Dwarven Fortress', with one of the quests being to obtain some 'adaman ember' that the dwarves forged.
Haven't played it, but if it was a quest to retrieve some socks, I'd be convinced. :D
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Post by: Vodrilus on June 03, 2012, 05:03:18 am
Gimli was horribly botched in the movies. He was a very deep character. And I don't know where people are getting a creepy vibe from with him and Legolas... It's like Sam and Frodo. You bond when you've been through horrible things with someone. You love them as a brother. Tolkien knew that quite well, having served in the trenches in WWI. People that haven't been in similar situations with extreme camaraderie tend too often to interpret it as homosexuality, or just plain creepiness.

Yeah, I've heard someone say:
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The homosexuals have spoiled the love between men for the rest of us.
Take that as you wish.  :P
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Post by: Oliolli on June 03, 2012, 05:35:26 am
It seems torchlight references DF as well. One of the dungeon tiers is a 'Dwarven Fortress', with one of the quests being to obtain some 'adaman ember' that the dwarves forged.

Just because there are dwarves and something the name of which reminds one of "adamantine" doesn't make it a reference. If the dwarven fortress -tier and the prison-over-a-sea-of-magma -tier had been one, I would be much more convinced.
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Post by: Morpha on June 03, 2012, 08:26:15 am
I'm of two minds with the Torchlight one. Torchlight was silly enough that it could have been, but it may just have been a coincidence.
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Post by: WealthyRadish on June 03, 2012, 01:23:21 pm
Well, after getting the 'adamant ember', the annoying wizard guy who assigns those repetitive quests says "it's surprisingly light, but I doubt anything could scratch it". Playing through the dungeon, I couldn't find any real references inside the level itself, so I think it was just that one. The fact that there's a magma sea as well, infested with goblins who seemed to be besieging the lost dwarven fortress, kind of seems a bit too coincidental.
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Post by: Sizik on June 03, 2012, 02:51:41 pm
Am I the only one who actually likes the Hobbit cartoon (although my judgement may be clouded by nostalgia, since I had it on tape growing up)?
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Post by: Pyro627 on June 03, 2012, 04:05:05 pm
Actually, the roharim chick ended up married to Farimir. She did her bit, and then she went home and married like everyone else in the novel.
That's what happens when you read a novel written during WWII.

Tolkien has repeatedly stated that he did not intend the novels to be allegorical. In fact, he started writing them before WWII even broke out.
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Post by: DrPoo on June 03, 2012, 05:07:33 pm
Holy shit people from Blizzard must be playing Dwarf Fortress! :D
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Post by: Scruffy on June 03, 2012, 05:14:29 pm
Well, after getting the 'adamant ember', the annoying wizard guy who assigns those repetitive quests says "it's surprisingly light, but I doubt anything could scratch it". Playing through the dungeon, I couldn't find any real references inside the level itself, so I think it was just that one. The fact that there's a magma sea as well, infested with goblins who seemed to be besieging the lost dwarven fortress, kind of seems a bit too coincidental.
Well, adamant itself is an old name for diamond. (Though in many old texts it has also been associated as a word for very hard substances and later used in fantasy as adamantium/adamantine etc.)
Frankly, dwarves having a goblin infestation is a relatively old cliche, for example LotR.
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Post by: Delta Foxtrot on June 03, 2012, 05:18:04 pm
Am I the only one who actually likes the Hobbit cartoon (although my judgement may be clouded by nostalgia, since I had it on tape growing up)?

I'm free of nostalgia. I dig it. Though I happen to enjoy Lynch's take on Dune as well so...
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Post by: Scoops Novel on August 29, 2012, 07:55:59 am
I hope they do the hobbit right. Please. Please. Please.

Does anyone know what happened to the last survivor of boatmurdered, the child Dodok Sabrefrenzies? I just finished Boatmurdered and after recovering from stitches I'd love to know what happened to her in legends.
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Post by: Pyro627 on August 29, 2012, 08:45:26 am
I hope they do the hobbit right. Please. Please. Please.

Does anyone know what happened to the last survivor of boatmurdered, the child Dodok Sabrefrenzies? I just finished Boatmurdered and after recovering from stitches I'd love to know what happened to her in legends.

As I understand it, historical figures aren't simulated beyond generation, so I think that she would just move to a nearby town eventually.
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Post by: Nyxalinth on August 29, 2012, 01:27:29 pm
Holy shit people from Blizzard must be playing Dwarf Fortress! :D

I think so, because in Alliance-controlled Menethil Harbor, there's two dwarves sitting outside a flooded in, discussing 'flooding the dining room' and 'finding carp behind the furniture for weeks!' :D
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Post by: WJLIII3 on August 29, 2012, 01:55:10 pm
His title is "Gimli, son of Gloin". Male.

But it would have made his questionable "chummyness" with legolas a bit less creepy. (The books are really suggestive.)

Holy crap you are super closeted, insanely homophobic, or in a public high school.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on August 29, 2012, 02:16:12 pm
His title is "Gimli, son of Gloin". Male.

But it would have made his questionable "chummyness" with legolas a bit less creepy. (The books are really suggestive.)

Holy crap you are super closeted, insanely homophobic, or in a public high school.

Gender stereotypes =/= same level as homophobia, although on the same spectrum.