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[G-Flex]

You kind of have to learn how to do it in order to do it.

Trial and error will hardly teach you everything; you'd be reinventing the wheel constantly, and likely doing a poor job of it since you don't know anything about good practice and have no foundation from which to start.


You might say that programming doesn't get boring, but it can sometimes be quite tedious, especially debugging.

[eerr]

Oh no, I'm so fucking bored all the time that I get bored of anything so quickly that it's unhuman.

Anyway Programming is good. Becuase I wont get bored while programming because i'll be doing something that doesnt get boring.

The learning process is boring. The doing is not.

The biggest problem is the engine.
Or rather, you are trying to do something specific with all of the generic bits of programming available.
Most of the interesting stuff you can do involves Input/output. All of that is system specific.


I recomend you switch to Flash, If what you want to do is graphics based.
Unfortunately, I don't have any experiance in it. You make the embedded kind of flash, so you can upload to newgrounds someday.

[Hippoman]

Oh no, I'm so fucking bored all the time that I get bored of anything so quickly that it's unhuman.

Anyway Programming is good. Becuase I wont get bored while programming because i'll be doing something that doesnt get boring.

The learning process is boring. The doing is not.

The biggest problem is the engine.
Or rather, you are trying to do something specific with all of the generic bits of programming available.
Most of the interesting stuff you can do involves Input/output. All of that is system specific.


I recomend you switch to Flash, If what you want to do is graphics based.
Unfortunately, I don't have any experiance in it. You make the embedded kind of flash, so you can upload to newgrounds someday.

See this is true. I used to use Novalis, and that was amazingly easy. But Krank just recently got back on for the first time in almost 3 weeks. He lost all his money and doesn't have the time to continue it.

So I tried Panda3D and thats how this started. But now I just wanna use WinApi because I can't understand a thing any of you were explaining OpenGL to me.

[eerr]

Tell us what you use to compile and write code, so we can then laboriously look up "add library" on the internet for you.

[Hippoman]

Tell us what you use to compile and write code, so we can then laboriously look up "add library" on the internet for you.

Well I use Codeblocks with Mingu?
And I can obviously google add library on my own and shit. But what I need is a library.

[Hippoman]

Ok so ive been looking at Youtube for videos.

And everyone I looked at making a application in Winapi/win32 was using Visual C++.

What is Visual C++ and do I need it/should i get it?

[qwertyuiopas]

Visual C++ is simply microsoft's C++/C IDE/compiler.

The "Visual" comes mostly(AFAIK) from the other related ones for C#, VB, etc. that have a visual GUI creator built in.

[G-Flex]

There's a free version available from Microsoft (Visual C++ Express), fyi. It's what I've been using.

[Hippoman]

So should I be using it?

Or should I use code::blocks?

[qwertyuiopas]

In general, they both do nearly the same thing.

You should probably use the one you like more.

[eerr]

You should buy a book on Windows API.

[Hippoman]

You should buy a book on Windows API.

Been thinking about it. Although I can only learn from doing, I could try...harder...and harder...and harder.

[G-Flex]

Learning-by-doing is still entirely possible using a book.

A lot of learning how to program from a book is by attempting the exercises given and consulting it in order to see how.

[Nadaka]

Once you have a basic understanding and know what to look for, you can get by just by looking stuff up. I can write in  java, c#, c++, javascript, c, actionscript, 4 flavors of basic, perl, php, python, lisp, smalltalk, ADA and a handful of other languages this way despite being an expert in only the first 2 or 4.

I am assuming you are a teen of some variety, do you have the option of taking any programming coursework at your school? I know I didn't until college, but its things might have changed in the couple decades.

[eerr]

You should buy a book on Windows API.

Been thinking about it. Although I can only learn from doing, I could try...harder...and harder...and harder.

You could be trying alot harder than you need to.
Isn't it worth, uh, 20$ if you can look up all the stuff you need to know in a snap?

Plus the insights you could learn just from browsing it!

(Java has a data type called byte? cool!)