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[notquitethere]

So I guess I'll ask notquitethere, Salvatore Monday, and Magma Mater how they think the game gets solved.

Sal is right, I think this game is only won for town if Toony makes the right choice and turns on Imp. If we leave it another day she could have too many votes to beat.

I get Toony is worried about me being some kind of third party (a really useless anti-town hunter?) but Magma+Jim+Salvatore still have three votes to my two and so can eventually grind me down. There are only so many hats that can be eaten. If I were third party in that protracted losing situation, I'd ask Fallacy to endgame me to save everyone the tedium.

[Krr1ss]

This is a bah post unrelated to game and is NAI!

I just learned that I can post once as a dead player so here I am.

Imp, I enjoy playing with you a lot despite our inability to find each other and sometimes even being a bit rough.

Don't let this discourage you from playing no matter your alignment but do keep in mind other players' feelings while playing next time. I know that, at least twice during this game, I have been hurt because you didn't consider my side of it all. BUT! Do note that you are a great player and I love playing and will keep playing with you!

I have a lot to talk with you after the game so brace yourself if you wish to do the same!


Oh btw, below are Imp and Toony being funny af.

[Salvatore Monday]

Okay, just to tie up every loose end... does anyone think there's a world where Magma shoots Jim, knowing that it won't kill him, for some reason?

Thinking it over, it seems really likely that Jim was the kill target after all, because he keeps going on about how his role is "loud" in that everyone always knows when he acts on them. This would fit perfectly with what Fallacy told me about how I might hear the action even though I wasn't a participant if the flavor of the involved parties makes it so. Of course, it could be that if he shot too, but there's nobody he could've shot... right?


You know, speaking completely in character as part of the mafia game experience, I like playing with Imp too. Sometimes you can be... a lot. As the kids say, "extra". I won't pretend otherwise. But I can work with that. I don't think I would mind being in a private chat with Imp either.

[Magma Mater]

Okay, just to tie up every loose end... does anyone think there's a world where Magma shoots Jim, knowing that it won't kill him, for some reason?

Thinking it over, it seems really likely that Jim was the kill target after all, because he keeps going on about how his role is "loud" in that everyone always knows when he acts on them. This would fit perfectly with what Fallacy told me about how I might hear the action even though I wasn't a participant if the flavor of the involved parties makes it so. Of course, it could be that if he shot too, but there's nobody he could've shot... right?


You know, speaking completely in character as part of the mafia game experience, I like playing with Imp too. Sometimes you can be... a lot. As the kids say, "extra". I won't pretend otherwise. But I can work with that. I don't think I would mind being in a private chat with Imp either.

I would do it just to be funny, yeah.
In fact, if I still had my kill I would have used it on Jim Groovester. It has a really hilarious side-effect if the person survives. But, like I said, I kill by defenestration so you would have heard glass shattering instead of a gunshot.

[ToonyMan]

Sigh...

This isn't getting anywhere. I don't know what to do. I think it's likely Imp is mafia but I'm not 100% sure. If every player but me/Imp votes for Imp then it won't be possible for Imp to survive so me activating my killswitch would be the same thing as Imp being eliminated except that if the game continues town could at least try to figure out who scum is between NQT/Jim/Magma for the remainder of this day.

[ToonyMan]

Based on all the evidence:

1. Sal thinks it's pretty likely two kills were attempted last night. I believe everything Sal is saying. Sal is never mafia.
2. Jim killed NQT and did nothing else. Someone likely tried to kill Jim, but Jim wouldn't know for sure if someone did.
3. Magma mugged Imp and Jack-sucked me. Magma probably didn't use a Propeller hat.
4. NQT got the sunglasses instead of me, NQT got killed by Jim.
5. Imp gave themselves a vote, Imp tried to mug Magma but the action failed.

Why didn't Imp mafiakill on N4? Or N3? I find it so unlikely that Imp also tried to kill Toastercult on N3.

[Salvatore Monday]

Based on all the evidence:

1. Sal thinks it's pretty likely two kills were attempted last night. I believe everything Sal is saying. Sal is never mafia.
2. Jim killed NQT and did nothing else. Someone likely tried to kill Jim, but Jim wouldn't know for sure if someone did.
3. Magma mugged Imp and Jack-sucked me. Magma probably didn't use a Propeller hat.
4. NQT got the sunglasses instead of me, NQT got killed by Jim.
5. Imp gave themselves a vote, Imp tried to mug Magma but the action failed.

Why didn't Imp mafiakill on N4? Or N3? I find it so unlikely that Imp also tried to kill Toastercult on N3.

I have no idea. Why didn't NQT? Or Magma (well he did kill n3 but he's right that that was clearly a defenestration from the flavor, not a gunshot)? Or you? It's weird no matter what.

[Salvatore Monday]

Maybe Jim ate a kill N4 because of the hat respawning and we never knew?

[Magma Mater]

Based on all the evidence:

1. Sal thinks it's pretty likely two kills were attempted last night. I believe everything Sal is saying. Sal is never mafia.
2. Jim killed NQT and did nothing else. Someone likely tried to kill Jim, but Jim wouldn't know for sure if someone did.
3. Magma mugged Imp and Jack-sucked me. Magma probably didn't use a Propeller hat.
4. NQT got the sunglasses instead of me, NQT got killed by Jim.
5. Imp gave themselves a vote, Imp tried to mug Magma but the action failed.

Why didn't Imp mafiakill on N4? Or N3? I find it so unlikely that Imp also tried to kill Toastercult on N3.

Last night, if Imp had killed myself and Jim Groovester, she would have won. She couldn't kill anyone prior to that point because she would be caught (like she is now).
The setup is kinda broken by everyone having a publicly-confirmable free action, ngl. The mafia desperately needed Crystalizedmire alive so that she could take the kill as an extra third action.

[Salvatore Monday]

Maybe Jim ate a kill N4 because of the hat respawning and we never knew?

No, sorry, that was stupid, I visited Jim N4 so I obviously know nobody tried to kill him 

[Jim Groovester]

For N4 onward I imagine it might be difficult to fit a kill in if you suddenly have a lover and can coordinate confirmable free actions.

I can't speak for N3.

[Imp]

Based on all the evidence:

1. Sal thinks it's pretty likely two kills were attempted last night. I believe everything Sal is saying. Sal is never mafia.
2. Jim killed NQT and did nothing else. Someone likely tried to kill Jim, but Jim wouldn't know for sure if someone did.
3. Magma mugged Imp and Jack-sucked me. Magma probably didn't use a Propeller hat.
4. NQT got the sunglasses instead of me, NQT got killed by Jim.
5. Imp gave themselves a vote, Imp tried to mug Magma but the action failed.

Why didn't Imp mafiakill on N4? Or N3? I find it so unlikely that Imp also tried to kill Toastercult on N3.

I believe it extremely likely Sal is town.  I believe Sal would say anything he thought useful.  I do think it extremely likely that everything Sal is saying is either really amusing and at least eventually town-useful, or it's beneficial for town, even if we can't see how or why yet.

It would be weird for anyone to have 2 kills in one night.  It would be super weird for Jim to have 2 kills and claim 1 only.

3 seems reasonable.

4 seems reasonable.

5 correct.

I don't have a kill, I also don't have a mafiakill.  I didn't kill anyone any night.  I could theoretically gain a kill or anything else any day or night after I change someone.  I haven't gotten anything but the little cops auto and the modded vote power, and the one-shot day vote gain that Verm gave me (I think.  It's not signed but the timing's shortly after his death).  And the dunce hat, a wonderful package that appeared to hold trash.

[Jim Groovester]

Imp just to get the game moving.

[Imp]

Offering the reasonable alternate.  I hope it isn't within Magma/Jim.  If it is, the survivors handle it.

NQT NQT NQT

[notquitethere]