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[Magma Mater]

Just because something doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense at all...

[notquitethere]

Imp isn't the dopp. Unless we thinking she bussed her partner while he was asleep? She was third on the wagon at the end. She made it. Seems unlikely

(I've been pfp today— will do some actual thinking and reading later)

[AnimePigeon]

Kind of confused about the rationale behind the dopp kill but not going to complain that the dopps are helping me solve the game.

I'm a Sneak. I was roommates with Magma Mater during N1 (he didn't know). Magma Mater didn't leave his house, so he is not a doppelganger.

My D1 game suspects have all been solved, so now I have to work through Imp, ToonyMan, notquitethere, Salvatore Monday, and AnimePigeon.

I visited Jim with my Role Last Night

[AnimePigeon]

Yeah.

My list of sus:

AP (Weirdly or not, I don't sus AP much.  He's not clear but... I'm mildly surprised if he ends up being the other dop.  I get all signs point to him)
Sal
NQT
Toons
(is there any way Magma could fool a sneak?  Tech like Advanced Holoform modulator?)  ... Magma.

I do not sus Jim.  I wish I sus Jim and I just don't.

I am unsure I want to believe that Magma is clear, and I believe Jim.

Is there no mech way that Jim could be honestly reporting yet Magma still could have killed?

I mean Imp, just take into consideration who's pushing the angle of me being a Doppelgänger.

I think Jim is fine, but within moments of his post regarding Roommate Magma & poe'ing from Magma & Me to just me... then seconds later you've got Salvatore stirring the pot. I wonder why... he didn't have enough to go after me yesterday, but 1 post that shades me in a "?" Light, and he's over it like a rash.

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Kind of confused about the rationale behind the dopp kill but not going to complain that the dopps are helping me solve the game.

I'm a Sneak. I was roommates with Magma Mater during N1 (he didn't know). Magma Mater didn't leave his house, so he is not a doppelganger.

My D1 game suspects have all been solved, so now I have to work through Imp, ToonyMan, notquitethere, Salvatore Monday, and AnimePigeon.

If it isn't Magma, the strongest likelihood is AnimePigeon.

This would also, arguably, explain a completely nonsensical kill target from our perspective.

I went to quite a lot of effort d1 to give scum every opportunity to be off-wagon and not feel like the only chance was to bus. Of course we do have players who would bus that hard d1 for no particular reason — fully aware that I'm certainly one of them for the rest of you — but hopefully night results will clear that up.

[AnimePigeon]

ToonyMan's voters have thrown their votes on ToonyMan and just kind of sat there. Magma Mater is still engaged with the game at least, but CM and Agent T have been comparatively quiet.

The thing is that I have very little to add to the conversation. I think that AP is probably town and is being genuine in suspecting Sal.

This was like 10 hrs ago, I would hope to see more from Agent.

Honestly, the smart move might just be to rush vote Agent before the EOD.

Agentt
I'm agreeing to vote Agentt because they're one of the players I suspect. I honestly don't think that Magma is scum but I also don't want a tie and an Agentt compromise might be for the best.

I don't think that Agentt is mafia. I would rather lynch Salvatore Monday, honestly, but ToonyMan is still my preferred lynch.

Agreed.

I'm not switching to Agent.

Time for me to drift off, my eyes are gone!

Drift back when you're ready, bucko.

While 'sleeper agent' is a neat meme for the maf team, I'm not currently convinced you're a stoolin' pigeon.

When convenient, please chatter and preen, and do your you-ness stuff.

I'm in thread currently, trying to read up anything I missed.

Is there a way to bookmark or consistently load the page that current day started on? (Mobile)

[AnimePigeon]

I reread the game. AnimePigeon pops out as the player with the most off D1 after the Agentt flip. I still don't like Magma Mater's D1 but he is absolutely not a dopp.

I have a hard time thinking it might be within ToonyMan, Imp, Salvatore Monday, or notquitethere, but gun to my head, I have to reevaluate everything I think I know about this game, I think I pick Salvatore Monday? We're getting really down into who is the most callous busser of poor Agentt at that point.

Good morning people.

I woke up and hah..

There isn't much thought behind voting Sal...I was and am still lost on how to proceed, and it just felt right. I mainly want to trust pigeon and see where this goes?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Agent was just the easiest push Day 1, thus it didn't feel right too me.

I made it clear I didn't think they painted a great imagine 🎨🖼️ of themself, but felt they gained too much traction, and generally wanted to stick to voting who I felt was (and still is) the most suss/opportunistic.

[AnimePigeon]

And Agentt was a detective, who can find visible role folks, and that's literally the only function of that role.

Is it correct that the only 2 roles that have a VISIBLE ROLE are either "Exterminator Operative" who means there IS an Exterminator in play, who would kill with high tech energy weapons and also hunts the dorps - but is actually SK by wincon???  "Victory: All non-Exterminator aligned players are dead"  That's way more than killing dorps.

And the other VISIBLE ROLE is Agent Operative which means there IS an agent in play, 'Operative is not told who the Agent is until the First Night, however. In addition, the government has no way of knowing if the Agent is still human. The Operative should use caution when contacting the agent.' --- BUT "Town wins" is the wincon.  So should not help a dorp agent, but should try to find one.

But if there is neither an agent operative or an exterminator operative in play - then there is nothing for a detective to do, except find people with 'no role'.

So, should we take the presence of a detective to mean we have an operative for them to find?  Or no, could be either?

Sidenote.  I'm not SK levels of evil.  But I'll hunt any threat to town, just like any game where I'm town.

A) no question that Meph would not allow us to infer setup from the roles that easily
2) No, most roles are visible as themselves if not specifically marked as saying something else, so the mafia rolecop still works just as well as a normal mafia rolecop at finding town power roles to kill

For clarities sake, I like Salvatore's Posting Style & he seems pretty chill, but it comes across very sly & suspiciously evil.

A) & 2) are the sort of Bullet Point Marker things I like to use, but don't tend to as it's just easier to type 1), 2), 3), etc...

[AnimePigeon]

@Imp:
There were two dorps. Only one dorp on N1. Crystal was killed by a dorp on N1, this is confirmed in flavor. Magma never left their house on N1, this is confirmed by Jim. I can't remember dorps getting alien tech ever so Magma isn't a dork 99.9% unless something is fucked or Jim is a lying.

I think it's likely the other Doppelgänger was on Agent anyways, Agent likely gave them blessings to buss them to high hell - I say this because Agent made 0 attempts to pivot the conversation... which leads me to believe he couldn't, as his potential Doppelgänger Partner was likely in contention to some degree too (thus didn't want any additional fire 🔥 on them)

[AnimePigeon]

Thought ultimately we got back to where we started the journey should be very educational after we've had some flips...

If the dopps are just Agent and Magma I honestly feel bad for them. Hopefully the game is a little more complex than that.

Going back to NQT saying this, I agree, it would be very anticlimactic.

I've generally thought Magma sounded alright for the most part Day 1.

[AnimePigeon]

For the record, Imp (or Eskcanta as named on other sites) is not a Chicken 🐔 🐓 🐥

She is feared & considered rather highly, even when she hasn't played too much or often on different sites or servers.

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I went for NJW2000 from D1 one recent game too.

Rather unfair to call me afraid to go for vets (he's more vet than me, dunno by how much)

I dunno you seem pretty scared to me. One might even say... chicken??

If you mean it, let's discuss out of game, after game.

[Imp]

ToonyMan's voters have thrown their votes on ToonyMan and just kind of sat there. Magma Mater is still engaged with the game at least, but CM and Agent T have been comparatively quiet.

The thing is that I have very little to add to the conversation. I think that AP is probably town and is being genuine in suspecting Sal.

This was like 10 hrs ago, I would hope to see more from Agent.

Honestly, the smart move might just be to rush vote Agent before the EOD.

Agentt
I'm agreeing to vote Agentt because they're one of the players I suspect. I honestly don't think that Magma is scum but I also don't want a tie and an Agentt compromise might be for the best.

I don't think that Agentt is mafia. I would rather lynch Salvatore Monday, honestly, but ToonyMan is still my preferred lynch.

Agreed.

I'm not switching to Agent.

Time for me to drift off, my eyes are gone!

Drift back when you're ready, bucko.

While 'sleeper agent' is a neat meme for the maf team, I'm not currently convinced you're a stoolin' pigeon.

When convenient, please chatter and preen, and do your you-ness stuff.

I'm in thread currently, trying to read up anything I missed.

Is there a way to bookmark or consistently load the page that current day started on? (Mobile)

You can click on a post to make a url of that post.  Which you can bookmark.

Since Meph doesn't post that much, I sometimes go to thread start, click host's posts, and scroll if needed to the recent day start post.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
Imp: 1: Magma Mater
Salvatore Monday: 1: notquitethere


Day ends ~5pm Pacific Tuesday

[Imp]

I reread the game. AnimePigeon pops out as the player with the most off D1 after the Agentt flip. I still don't like Magma Mater's D1 but he is absolutely not a dopp.

I have a hard time thinking it might be within ToonyMan, Imp, Salvatore Monday, or notquitethere, but gun to my head, I have to reevaluate everything I think I know about this game, I think I pick Salvatore Monday? We're getting really down into who is the most callous busser of poor Agentt at that point.

Good morning people.

I woke up and hah..

There isn't much thought behind voting Sal...I was and am still lost on how to proceed, and it just felt right. I mainly want to trust pigeon and see where this goes?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Agent was just the easiest push Day 1, thus it didn't feel right too me.

I made it clear I didn't think they painted a great imagine 🎨🖼️ of themself, but felt they gained too much traction, and generally wanted to stick to voting who I felt was (and still is) the most suss/opportunistic.

So, Agentt did flip dop, right?

Does that change your thinking or the picture at all of who is the most suss/opportunistic?

Do you see any likely partner of Agentt while this 'gaining too much traction' was happening?  You came into the thread a bit later than most, maybe giving you a different perspective since you don't know what's happening at all until you get here and get reading.

You notice, I guess, Agentt has traction, you do what you do - what do you see and think about what others were doing about this traction?

[Imp]

Kind of confused about the rationale behind the dopp kill but not going to complain that the dopps are helping me solve the game.

I'm a Sneak. I was roommates with Magma Mater during N1 (he didn't know). Magma Mater didn't leave his house, so he is not a doppelganger.

My D1 game suspects have all been solved, so now I have to work through Imp, ToonyMan, notquitethere, Salvatore Monday, and AnimePigeon.

I visited Jim with my Role Last Night

Do you feel like you've told us a lot about your role with that, or not?

[AnimePigeon]

Kind of confused about the rationale behind the dopp kill but not going to complain that the dopps are helping me solve the game.

I'm a Sneak. I was roommates with Magma Mater during N1 (he didn't know). Magma Mater didn't leave his house, so he is not a doppelganger.

My D1 game suspects have all been solved, so now I have to work through Imp, ToonyMan, notquitethere, Salvatore Monday, and AnimePigeon.

I visited Jim with my Role Last Night

Do you feel like you've told us a lot about your role with that, or not?

That's very much upto how others perceive this information from me.

I can't see any reason why I should need to reveal my role, or need to elaborate further than I have realistically.

I can't confirm whether Jim is Good/Evil, but I thought my action was best used on Jim.