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[Gail_42]

Heya!  It's nice to meet everyone, and nice to see some of my newer buddies.  ^^  You may call me Gail, if you'd like.  It's my real middle name, as I have no logical self preservation instincts.  Please feel plenty comfortable speaking to me.  For your own sanity, however, do your best to refrain from imagining my fingers in edible substances.  For now.

I haven't backread everything as of yet, or this post would be even more of a wall.

Elephant: I didn't get to play many games previously, and they were a bit wonky.  It's hard to compare.  The vibes feel open and pleasant so far, and more personally comfortable.  Whether it's due to my own comfortability or due to a subtle difference in play 'culture' or 'style', my reads have been more dependable.  (Knocking on wood so I don't jinx it...)

Crystal: Thankfully, the last game was a good introduction to the site itself, such as navigation and settings.  The game itself should be easier to focus on.  I've also learned little things, such as organizing my own thoughts in a sort of personal record (notepad as of now).  Rather than allowing myself to be swayed in the moment and abandoning prior reasoning, I'm keeping record of my reads and choices at various stages to keep a more object view.  Sal's digging wallpost previously almost tricked me.  That situation also taught me that even as town, maybe I should intentionally utilize subtle trickery to catch someone showing their hand when their guard goes down.  That night, I really was going to bed- but if I hadn't come back to check (unintentionally lying about leaving the thread), I wouldn't have flipped back to Sal.  We would've lost a townie instead of lynching mafia.


I have nothing to hide from fellow town, so I will outright admit that I submitted: Light, Curse, Reflect.  I don't know jack about materia (I'm more like a fallout and elder scrolls girl than final fantasy, the term is just kinda new, ya know?), so in case my ideas sucked, I also submitted: Ink, Dice, Mask.  Someone else sumitted something too similar to reflect (glass I guess?  ayo, vermillion~), so our darling host used Ink to replace that one.  No, I did not submit how I intended any of those to specifically work, as I figured it was best to let NQT do whatever seemed most appropriate (without my influence).

In an attempt to stick to hard fact, I want to quickly note that we have 3 confirmed players on the naughty list.  That means at most 8 total town.  3 out of 11 is 27.27...%, meaning just over 1/4 confirmed antitown.  Out of any given groups of 4, odds are at least 1 will be a baddie.  I'm playing with the idea of a 3rd party group, neutral, alternate antitown, whatever it might be called... but guess there would only be 1 and at most 2.  If I sound like an idiot right now... buckle up.  That part will stay that way.

ANYWAY, nice to see you Magma and Imp, muah, and hopefully my next post will have, idk, useful content.

[Gail_42]

OH AND REAL QUICK, SORRY!  It's totally obviously great to see Zem, Crystal, and Sal and argh, I swear I like y'all too and won't play favorites.

[Elephant Parade]

I'm not convinced sharing materia picks is pro-town, but doing it off the bat makes me feel better about you.

[FallacyofUrist]

ToonyMan's scum vibe of me seems fairly minimal. I guess that's why it's further scrutiny and not a vote.

I'm curious why it's "antagonizing" Magma and not simply "questioning" them. I didn't see my questions as aggressive.

I like that Imp is producing better-quality posts. Less dense, more readable, and more focused on the game. Ironically, that could be a scumtell, in the same vein as the "Tric is more rational when he's scum" tell that previously existed.

But eh, the vibes aren't scummy, so it's just something to pay attention to, for now.

Elephant Parade seems fairly reserved. I think her stance of preferring low-to-minimal information be shared on Day 1 is a reasonable one, but I'd like to see her place a vote, even if it's a pressure vote.

[Elephant Parade]

I vote when I feel strongly enough to vote someone. That hasn't quite happened yet.

[Salvatore Monday]

I don't see Fallacy as scum here. Toonyman in particular, what makes you think so?

[Crystalizedmire]

ToonyMan's scum vibe of me seems fairly minimal. I guess that's why it's further scrutiny and not a vote.

I'm curious why it's "antagonizing" Magma and not simply "questioning" them. I didn't see my questions as aggressive.

I like that Imp is producing better-quality posts. Less dense, more readable, and more focused on the game. Ironically, that could be a scumtell, in the same vein as the "Tric is more rational when he's scum" tell that previously existed.

Where did Toony say that you're antagonizing Magma because I could've sworn I read that too but I couldn't find where he said that.
Also, I'm pretty sure Imp is also pretty dense as mafia.

[Salvatore Monday]

I don't believe they have felt good so far. Pointing out why Tric is town here is obvious and I feel they are antagonizing Magma who has done nothing wrong, perhaps sensing an opportunity with Verm and Tric on Magma.

Or was this supposed to be the whole reason? Because this isn't moving me.

[Crystalizedmire]

I don't believe they have felt good so far. Pointing out why Tric is town here is obvious and I feel they are antagonizing Magma who has done nothing wrong, perhaps sensing an opportunity with Verm and Tric on Magma.

Or was this supposed to be the whole reason? Because this isn't moving me.

Ah thanks!

While your evidence seems to point to the fact that most games I'm in with FoU that neither of us are the same alignment (which might explain why I always feel they're scum) I can think of at least two games where we were both town...and many many many others where this wasn't true. I don't believe they have felt good so far. Pointing out why Tric is town here is obvious and I feel they are antagonizing Magma who has done nothing wrong, perhaps sensing an opportunity with Verm and Tric on Magma.

I feel like some of the players aren't as familliar with Tric's metagame than others so I feel that Fal pointing it out is at least somewhat useful.

[FallacyofUrist]

Where did Toony say that you're antagonizing Magma because I could've sworn I read that too but I couldn't find where he said that.

Pointing out why Tric is town here is obvious and I feel they are antagonizing Magma who has done nothing wrong, perhaps sensing an opportunity with Verm and Tric on Magma.

Here.

Also, I'm pretty sure Imp is also pretty dense as mafia.

Players can change between games - so meta reads are never wholly reliable. In the current stage of the game, I'm mostly focused on gathering data points, even if they don't point towards scumminess individually.

Figuring out a few town-reads in preparation for later helps, as well.

I imagine things will really pick up once it's no longer the weekend.

Ninja'd:

I feel like some of the players aren't as familliar with Tric's metagame than others so I feel that Fal pointing it out is at least somewhat useful.

That wasn't precisely my intent, but yeah, that's a good point too. zemaj and Gail at the very least are fairly new here.

[Imp]

I submitted: Light, Curse, Reflect.  I don't know jack about materia so in case my ideas sucked, I also submitted: Ink, Dice, Mask.  Someone else sumitted something too similar to reflect (glass I guess?  ayo, vermillion~), so our darling host used Ink to replace that one.  No, I did not submit how I intended any of those to specifically work, as I figured it was best to let NQT do whatever seemed most appropriate (without my influence).

This feels weird, as in 'is a poor match to my predictions of reality'.  It's also a really weird thing to lie about, so I'm presuming this is true.  But it means:

NQT wanted 3 submissions from ([everyone] is more likely than [Gail specifically]) and when Gail offered 6, and happened to have 'reflect' collapse down into some other, perhaps glass (which would ignore glass's brittle, transparent-transmission, hard, amorphous, container, and many other effects - when I think glass, I don't really think reflect.  Mirror, and mirrors are fronted by glass, that leads to reflection, but if reflect collapsed to glass, that's interesting because glass itself is only about 4% reflective, mirrors get 'silvered' to actually be reflective, not see through), or maybe 'silver star' (but what about the non-reflective qualities there?) or even 'light' (That we see is because light reflects off objects, though light does more than reflect).


So it means that NQT could easily have just doubled up Gail's reflect materia into some other one, but without further discussion if she wanted that or wanted a fuller list, took the first of her alternate list.

Which is cool, but WEIRD.  Because we do in fact have less than 11 sets of 3.

Which suggests that someone wanted only 2, or there was a collapse without a replace - not offered, or not chosen if offered.

Yet we also have Gail's story.


Hey Gail, how's your stress levels and general life quality?  Anything I should consider when I read you, that might really affect your feel compared to normal chatter we had last game or in the Discord?

[Imp]

Verm, check in when you can?  Too early for reads still, you got any questions or observations, or anything else?

[ToonyMan]

I don't see Fallacy as scum here. Toonyman in particular, what makes you think so?

It's just my vibe I don't really feel strongly negative about anything.

I don't believe they have felt good so far. Pointing out why Tric is town here is obvious and I feel they are antagonizing Magma who has done nothing wrong, perhaps sensing an opportunity with Verm and Tric on Magma.

Or was this supposed to be the whole reason? Because this isn't moving me.

I'm not moved either.

@FoU:
I don't remember zemaj being that new but I don't know how often they've played.

I just didn't like how you framed Tric as "oh yeah they're totally town because x and y", compare that to Crystal who was like "my gut says Tric and FoU are town" which is more what I expect from players at this point in the game. I don't feel that strongly about it because I could see town you playing in a way that's suspicious so it's like +0.5 scum points in my head instead of +2 but I'm not going to like it regardless.

[Imp]

In an attempt to stick to hard fact, I want to quickly note that we have 3 confirmed players on the naughty list.  That means at most 8 total town.  3 out of 11 is 27.27...%, meaning just over 1/4 confirmed antitown.  Out of any given groups of 4, odds are at least 1 will be a baddie.  I'm playing with the idea of a 3rd party group, neutral, alternate antitown, whatever it might be called... but guess there would only be 1 and at most 2.  If I sound like an idiot right now... buckle up.  That part will stay that way.

Hey, Gail.

A few of those things we do not need to worry about solving.

Mod-confirmed, in the rules.

We have only town and mafia this game.  No other alignments.

We have 3 mafia, 8 town, this game.  Check the posts that NQT has made for confirmation, quotes provided on request.

You don't sound like an idiot, and I'm glad you're here.

[ToonyMan]

Gail might be okay. Maybe a lesser Imp, an Impling? I feel like I made that joke before. I don't know Gail so I'm not as sure as my townlean of Imp.