Sign me up. I'd prefer if we didn't start with less than 24 people.
I'll join this. THAT WORD
Also with this many roles, Will there be any unimportant normal civilians?
The game should be starting next week. I needs a minimum of 18 players with 21 players being the best option.
I'll vote for Alexhans today... he seems to know an awful lot about who's who.
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I am not an elf.
Inalucts an elf mafia guy! Strifes RPG Thread is proof!Though I didn't have that much of a case against NUKE either, hopping in the bandwagon without giving any reason is suspicious. I point my FoS at Org and unvote as I don't want any accidents happening.
I vote Nuke
I am not an elf.Then what information should we use? What information do we have?
Anyway, I'll abstain until we get some more enlightened discussion than Panda making a joke and people dog piling NUKE for saying that he isn't in the mafia.
NUKE9.13, as no one can see the truthfulness of other's statements, why would you claim to be a Townie? It doesn't really say anything, it's just strange.
In this game there are at least 4 baddies (OP says that there's 2 per mafia) and maybe a total of 6, counting the possible Arms Dealer and Serial Killer (Who isn't on either side, but is more likely to kill Townies than Mafia) so even a random lynch should have a good chance at hitting scum.
As we haven't got that much to go on, I'll put some pressure on NUKE9.13 as his claim to not be evil might have been a plan to fool us.
Inalucts an elf mafia guy! Strifes RPG Thread is proof!Since Org is the third person to jump on the bandwagon, I'll go with it and accuse Org. Considering his lack of real sustenance to his vote, I consider him to be a good target. Especially that bit about inaluct. What does that have to do with this? A simple confusion method, it is. Think, people. Let's lynch us some Mafia.
I vote Nuke
Vote Count #1 With 13 people alive it takes 7 votes to lynch!a) I'm pretty sure LASD is with us.
NUKE9.13 - (2) a1s, Org.
No Lynch - (1) Cheetar.
A. He unvoted.Vote Count #1 With 13 people alive it takes 7 votes to lynch!a) I'm pretty sure LASD is with us.
NUKE9.13 - (2) a1s, Org.
No Lynch - (1) Cheetar.
b) could you not use black, it's pretty hard to read.
NUKE9.13 is a scum at all and blaming him for RPing is a stupid vote.It's not specifically that. With all the mafias and scums, it makes strong statistical sense to lynch someone, and since we don't know who is who yet, it might as well be Nuke.
um... yes, exactly- back sucks balls in darking. (as for color suggestions: orange is logical, blue is also good [especially to denote people who abstain/vote no lynch])It makes more statistical sense to lynch Org. You are just making accusations.NUKE9.13 is a scum at all and blaming him for RPing is a stupid vote.It's not specifically that. With all the mafias and scums, it makes strong statistical sense to lynch someone, and since we don't know who is who yet, it might as well be Nuke.
The problem with that argument is that if the person is not mafia, they will not jump on the wagon. and considering how few affirmative votes we had, I think that to be the case.Quite. I think if you're going to lynch someone, do it with more evidence. And I never said that someone in the Mafia wouldn't jump on the bandwagon, only that the third or fourth person to do so is often a Mafia member.
Speaking of, you have been voicing the most resistance to the "nukewagon"... :-\
Wow. All I am going to say is this. YOU ARE AN IDIOT. Really? If I want to lynch someone, and that I KNOW NO ONE IS GOING TO VOTE FOR BECAUSE ITS TURN 1, makes me mafia. Hmmmm, that makes sense. You must be mafia, and are blaming me.Not necessarily. It's just more likely that you are Mafia. Much more likely than NUKE9.13. Let's not play the Strawman argument and instead find a rationale. You've also tried to shift blame from you to me.
I unvote. I vote no one. As this will make it better.
And I never said that someone in the Mafia wouldn't jump on the bandwagonthat's the point though- they would, if there was a chance of a free townie kill. But they haven't. This isn't, not by a long shot, proof that nuke and you are in the mafia together. It just raises the probability slightly.
I suppose if someone found NUKE9.13 to be in the Mafia, it would make me look suspicious by association. Or if anyone cares to check me, they'll find I'm clearly on the Town's side.And I never said that someone in the Mafia wouldn't jump on the bandwagonthat's the point though- they would, if there was a chance of a free townie kill. But they haven't. This isn't, not by a long shot, proof that nuke and you are in the mafia together. It just raises the probability slightly.
Why is everyone so quiet?
But then, what about you, webadict, are you a particularly twisted piece of scum trying to get our trust by being very active or are you just a concerned Townie? You're the most experienced player here I assume, so you might be able to pull something devious like that off, but still think that the mafia is more likely to be found from the silent crowd.Sure, I do seem pretty suspicious, trying to lead the group to lynch someone based off mere suspicions. I think waiting until the first night to act will likely get us killed instead of helping us, though. Maybe other people disagree, but there is more to learn in lynching than watching others die. Watch how everyone votes, talks, and acts (or rather, doesn't, as it may be).
Would people speak more if the 1st night had passed?
Can somebody do a post count on people before this point?This is count is up to this post, inclusive.
- Org 5
- Inaluct 2
- Zaithemaster 2
- Karlito 4
- A_Fey_Dwarf 1
- webadict 8
- penguinofhonor 1
- Pandarsenic 3
- Cheeetar 1
- Flintus10 1
- a1s 7
- LASD 3
- NUKE9.13 3
I vote No Lynch. Wait until the kills happen, good roles do their thing, and see what the clues are.Explain yourself, Cheeetar! Why wait, if that will get us killed in the long run? Why not take the chance, instead of waiting until we're at knife point to choose? If we're going to win, we're going to have to make a choice.
Well, most of the times I have played mafia the good guys will investigate each other, team up, and win the game. I've changed my mind about this tactic though, as there are much more roles, and lynching will be more important. I don't know who to vote for though, so I shall just unvote.I vote No Lynch. Wait until the kills happen, good roles do their thing, and see what the clues are.Explain yourself, Cheeetar! Why wait, if that will get us killed in the long run? Why not take the chance, instead of waiting until we're at knife point to choose? If we're going to win, we're going to have to make a choice.
Yes, the nukewagon seems to be a bad idea. Hrmm, that gives me a great idea.Another one-poster. We need more talking and less abstaining! If you abstain, you're
*imagines a dwarven wagon filled with nukes* Now how would I mod this into my game?
Anyway I will abstain from voting.
Asking people to kill you for information is really quite a scummy thing to do.Yes, the nukewagon seems to be a bad idea. Hrmm, that gives me a great idea.Another one-poster. We need more talking and less abstaining! If you abstain, you're
*imagines a dwarven wagon filled with nukes* Now how would I mod this into my game?
Anyway I will abstain from voting.un-Americanhelping the Mafia! All of you. We can't win by sitting back and relaxing until someone ends these villains. Get up! Talk! All of you! If you have to find reason someone could possibly be Mafia! Heck, choose me! At least then there will be information to be learned!
Vote Count #1 With 13 people alive it takes 7 votes to lynch!a) I'm pretty sure LASD is with us.
NUKE9.13 - (2) a1s, Org.
No Lynch - (1) Cheetar.
b) could you not use black, it's pretty hard to read.
Inalucts an elf mafia guy! Strifes RPG Thread is proof!Though I didn't have that much of a case against NUKE either, hopping in the bandwagon without giving any reason is suspicious. I point my FoS at Org and unvote as I don't want any accidents happening.
I vote Nuke
Also, is this card-flip or not?
I have to agree with webadict, this by the way, is the reason why in live games they almost always lynch on the first night, even though it seems detrimental at a glance.
P.S.notto be anal, but you didn't cast any votes yet, panda, and can't unvote. you can however abstain.
Vote Count #2° With 13° alive it takes 7° to lynch!I actually voted for Org, and never unvoted. Nor will I proceed to less someone gives me some reason not to.
NUKE9.13 - (1) a1s,
No Lynch - (0)
Not Voting: Org, Cheetar, A_Fey_Dwarf, Flintus10, Inaluct, Karlito, LASD, NUKE9.13, Pandarsenic, penguinofhonor, webadict, Zaithemaster.
I was merely giving them an option, because choosing No Lynch is the worst move we can make right now. That means we all sit back with our hands in our pockets, until someone gets killed. The only possible way that could help us is that someone gets lucky and finds a Mafia during the night, which is probably going to be wasted on me anyhow, given my long speeches.Asking people to kill you for information is really quite a scummy thing to do.Yes, the nukewagon seems to be a bad idea. Hrmm, that gives me a great idea.Another one-poster. We need more talking and less abstaining! If you abstain, you're
*imagines a dwarven wagon filled with nukes* Now how would I mod this into my game?
Anyway I will abstain from voting.un-Americanhelping the Mafia! All of you. We can't win by sitting back and relaxing until someone ends these villains. Get up! Talk! All of you! If you have to find reason someone could possibly be Mafia! Heck, choose me! At least then there will be information to be learned!
InaluctCan somebody do a post count on people before this point?This is count is up to this post, inclusive.Code: [Select]- Org 5
- Inaluct 2
- Zaithemaster 2
- Karlito 4
- A_Fey_Dwarf 1
- webadict 8
- penguinofhonor 1
- Pandarsenic 3
- Cheeetar 1
- Flintus10 1
- a1s 7
- LASD 3
- NUKE9.13 3
Vote Count #2° With 13° alive it takes 7° to lynch!I actually voted for Org, and never unvoted. Nor will I proceed to less someone gives me some reason not to.
NUKE9.13 - (1) a1s,
No Lynch - (0)
Not Voting: Org, Cheetar, A_Fey_Dwarf, Flintus10, Inaluct, Karlito, LASD, NUKE9.13, Pandarsenic, penguinofhonor, webadict, Zaithemaster.
Penguin also voted org.What evidence? It actually points to someone else, like Cheetar, for his inactivity. And to webadict:why vote me if you think other people seem more suspicious?
Well, time to utilise statistics, which states that there are shitloads of bad guys, and pick-a-lynchee.
Org suffers from webadict. But webadict appears to be wise in the ways of mafia, whilst, no offence, org seems to be fumbling. Nevertheless, I am forced to bandwagon against org. Forced as in, it would be bad if no lynch won, and org has a few people against him already, and a bit of evidence against him. The odds of him actually being mafia are slightly more than 5/13, with a possible 6/13 if there is a serial killer; the price is one man's life; the prize multiple peoples lives plus information, booby prize is just information. Sounds like a good bet to me.
I was wondering, if it takes 7 circles to lynch, how is nonlynch different from just not casting a vote?
Also, what happens when there are several pro lynch votes, none of which reaches the quorum? ( F.E.: person1:6 votes, person2:4 votes, nonlynch: 3 votes) will no one be lynched?
I vote for you merely as a precaution. I still have suspicions against you, and as long as no one clearly identifies a better target (which there are several). Perhaps you are just inexperienced, and therefore unable to defend yourself properly.Penguin also voted org.What evidence? It actually points to someone else, like Cheetar, for his inactivity. And to webadict:why vote me if you think other people seem more suspicious?
Well, time to utilise statistics, which states that there are shitloads of bad guys, and pick-a-lynchee.
Org suffers from webadict. But webadict appears to be wise in the ways of mafia, whilst, no offence, org seems to be fumbling. Nevertheless, I am forced to bandwagon against org. Forced as in, it would be bad if no lynch won, and org has a few people against him already, and a bit of evidence against him. The odds of him actually being mafia are slightly more than 5/13, with a possible 6/13 if there is a serial killer; the price is one man's life; the prize multiple peoples lives plus information, booby prize is just information. Sounds like a good bet to me.
Org makes himself look hugely suspicious in every game. I'm not sure if this is a strategy or noobiness, but I don't think I'm voting for him now.Does he not have a right to do so? Is there a reason why that might possibly be suspicious? Furthermore, I think you've taken a step too far. You ask not for explanation, which seems slightly odd coming from you. I think it is increasingly necessary to vote for you, while still FOSing a1s. I must agree that Org is just inexperienced.
One conspicuous thing I've noticed is that a1s is the only one still clinging to his vote for Nuke....
I think I'll take this time to vote for you, Pandarsenic. You must not have a power role, or you'd stick out like a sore thumb, as seems to be your nature. You've been outstandingly quiet, which is a bad sign.I think that this makes a lot of sense. I'll vote for Pandarsenic preliminarily. I might change it if someone comes forth with good info.
Also, it might be good for the hammerer to roleclaim before we lose another role. I guess staying hidden and hoping the elves will target you might be a good idea, too, though, but we probably don't have many tracker-type people left, other than the child.WTF? Wrong game, bro.
Also, it might be good for the hammerer to roleclaim before we lose another role. I guess staying hidden and hoping the elves will target you might be a good idea, too, though, but we probably don't have many tracker-type people left, other than the child.
ELF! WE GOT AN ELF!Please people. Let's not spam this good thread with elements of my thread. We can keep separate these two universes.
I think I'll take this time to vote for you, Pandarsenic. You must not have a power role, or you'd stick out like a sore thumb, as seems to be your nature. You've been outstandingly quiet, which is a bad sign.I think that this makes a lot of sense. I'll vote for Pandarsenic preliminarily. I might change it if someone comes forth with good info.
Also, it might be good for the hammerer to roleclaim before we lose another role. I guess staying hidden and hoping the elves will target you might be a good idea, too, though, but we probably don't have many tracker-type people left, other than the child.
One conspicuous thing I've noticed is that a1s is the only one still clinging to his vote for Nuke....very well then, out with the old. I vote pandarsenic.
Since Org is the third person to jump on the bandwagon, I'll go with it and accuse Org. Considering his lack of real sustenance to his vote, I consider him to be a good target. Especially that bit about inaluct. What does that have to do with this? A simple confusion method, it is. Think, people. Let's lynch us some Mafia.
I vote Panda.
Halt, this wagon must travel no further.He has a point, but since when did you start posting?
Using this theory:Quote from: webadictSince Org is the third person to jump on the bandwagon, I'll go with it and accuse Org. Considering his lack of real sustenance to his vote, I consider him to be a good target. Especially that bit about inaluct. What does that have to do with this? A simple confusion method, it is. Think, people. Let's lynch us some Mafia.
and:I vote Panda.
Org is the third person (again) to vote against pandarsenic (making him the bandwagoner), he also had very little reasoning with his vote.
My mind is made up, I will vote for Org to be lynched.
Well, I completely forgot about this thread until I saw it just before.So you admit you were lurking! Aha! Caught you red-handed, scum!
Well, that's not horrifically suspicious. He refuses to explain his continued Nuke vote and instead attacks the first person to express any suspicion for him?One conspicuous thing I've noticed is that a1s is the only one still clinging to his vote for Nuke....very well then, out with the old. I vote pandarsenic.
I already told you, LASD, we're basically shooting blind until the first night round lets us scan people. I haven't jumped on bandwagons, at least.It's not a blind shot. It's a 'slightly higher chance that it's you' shot. We use what we have at our disposal to find scum, and you seem likely. Also, you haven't given us anymore reason to trust you.
so? was panda killed? did night start? bump?
- Deadlines are 48 hours day/night. 72 hs if on weekend. MON-TUE, WED-THU, FRI-SAT-SUN. So we shall advance at least 1.5 days per week. (D-N-D) or (N-D-N).so, what's up with that? part of why I joined was that we would have a fast game.
mod:- Deadlines are 48 hours day/night. 72 hs if on weekend. MON-TUE, WED-THU, FRI-SAT-SUN. So we shall advance at least 1.5 days per week. (D-N-D) or (N-D-N).so, what's up with that? part of why I joined was that we would have a fast game.
What does "omgus" mean? (panda said it twice by now, and please don't use allcaps outside of 4chan).It's an acronym for 'OMG, U SUK!' Literally. Not kidding.
wow. that sounds likes there's years of cultural tradition behind it.It's all here: http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
anyways, I was not suk'ing, but rather bandwagoning (panda had 3 votes by that point, and seemed like a good candidate).
wow. that sounds likes there's years of cultural tradition behind it.Bandwagoning and OMGUS votes are both signs of newbies or scum... however, Org is the one I'm most suspicious of presently.
anyways, I was not suk'ing, but rather bandwagoning (panda had 3 votes by that point, and seemed like a good candidate).
Org is bandwagoning and now trying to use pity ("Everone always goes after me") Both are signs of mafia scum bags.Ohhh YEAH. Let me tell you. I am not Mafia. This is just funny. The time I am not mafia, everyone goes for me.
Guys. He's obviously not mafia. He's a noob... but he's not mafia. I think ganging up on him has proven nothing, other than that Pandarsenic can turn the people against someone who doesn't play this game enough to know.Org is bandwagoning and now trying to use pity ("Everone always goes after me") Both are signs of mafia scum bags.Ohhh YEAH. Let me tell you. I am not Mafia. This is just funny. The time I am not mafia, everyone goes for me.
You seem to be jumping in to defend him, the way a mafioso would defend his comrade.I'm saying that because if we're going to lynch someone, let's lynch someone that looks suspicious. Lynching Org isn't going to get us anywhere, because he's obviously just a newbie.
Now I'm even more suspicious.
I was originally sort of joking about this, but now that I see how serious you are about it, I'm triple suspicious.You seem to be jumping in to defend him, the way a mafioso would defend his comrade.I'm saying that because if we're going to lynch someone, let's lynch someone that looks suspicious. Lynching Org isn't going to get us anywhere, because he's obviously just a newbie.
Now I'm even more suspicious.
Wow, I can't believe I'm suspicious for stopping a bandwagon. Who'da thunk it?
I mean, jumps out of Pandarsenic's vote and onto Org, THEN gets suspicious for someone defending him. Really?
How about we point out the fact that inaluct switches his vote when Pandarsenic seems sure to get lynched, because Pandarsenic says, "Hey look! A newb!" Scummy? I believe so. Probably Pandarsenic and inaluct are Mafia.
I'm keeping my vote, and I'm FoSing inaluct.
I don't think Org can be that much of a newbie, can he?It is suspicious, but there are plenty of others that are more suspicious. I'm certain he doesn't know any of the starting behavior nor how to defend himself. He's doing fine, and if he would stop saying he's not Mafia, it'd probably be better, as that usually makes him more suspicious. But I think if he could be more assertive, showing some proof in his arguments ("A mafia wouldn't do this because..."), but he's also trying to not get himself killed.
webadict, Org has jumped on two bandwagons; in my book, that's not "newbie," that's "suspicion of indiscriminate killer."
Is there anyone else you're suspicious of, though? I'd like to hear your reasoning on anyone you can name.Cheeetar and penguinofhonor. Both have only had one or two posts. It's a good way to hide. Also, why did NUKE9.13 stop posting after he was cleared?
No.... Okay... Now I don't know what you're doing...
Well, what am I supposed to do? Not much after the bandwagon against me.Try something. Don't sit back and watch. Saying nothing will get you lynched.
Defend how though? Be like....Explain your actions. Show how they aren't Mafia.
I am not mafia because....I dont know....
Well, what am I supposed to do? Not much after the bandwagon against me.Surprisingly, a lot. Panda was just almost lynched and now he won't be. I still think he's mafia, but you have to admit he played that well.
Maybe I dislike a few of you and just want you out of here?... *Webadict facepalms*
Although that just makes it even worse.......
Cheeetar and penguinofhonor. Both have only had one or two posts. It's a good way to hide.Um, I kind of forgot about this honestly :P. I'll try to make a more active role now.
I will not defend myself There is no point I can make to say I am not Mafia. Because anyone can say there not and lie like I got checked, yada yada...Yes, that is true. It's better to say that than to say nothing.
I am not mafia, but what can I say to convince you AI am not. I have no proof, except what I say.
I'm going to roleclaim. my role has no benefits (once I post this) so I'm unafraid.This makes sense, since he was unwanting to vote for him. Even a Mafia would've put votes on the other Mafia in order to create a distance.
Me and org are actually Hooligans (Bajo Flores' version of masons) so I can attest for his Towniness.
I can't unvote without risking my own life, but as soon as I can do so safely, I will. I suggest we move on to someone who's been very quiet, I suppose? I suggest Cop(s?) check Org or A1S tonight.Except that there are 3 different cops. One that can tell the truth, one that can't and one that is 50:50 (Or is it 75:25). That means we only have a 50% of the a cop getting the right answer (33% * 100% + 33% * 50% [or 33% * 75%] + 33% * 0%). [The second case actually gives a 58.3%, which is a better than 50:50, but not a whole heck of a lot.]
on the condition that doing so does not threaten my life.oh, right, sorry.
I don't think we should lynch Penguinofhonor just for being inactive, as this hasn't been the most popular of Mafia games....He hasn't posted for how many days?
Uh, wow. Tips for whom, exactly?
Hey, Alexhans, can you PM me the roles? XDUh, wow. Tips for whom, exactly?
You're dead Pandar... But I'll answer it the same...
The tips are messages that anyone can send to me as a night action and that a random cop will receive (if there is one). If there isn't any police the tips will be lost in the bureocratic system of files in the local police station.
If there is an arms dealer, I think the mafia should have won.there are 2 mafias... one must eliminate the other.... The town can try to use this to survive.
Wait, I thought LASD was a cop. (That is, the corrupt one)Yes, that's what I thought too and that's what my excellent role PM said.
And my LAZURZ!WhatSpoiler (click to show/hide)