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Eh, I've been playing some competitive, sparsely. Sometimes I'll get teams of people playing totally meta, legitimately non-underpowered hero's in their correct roles... and we still lose hilariously, mostly just due to them being pretty damn bad at actually killing anything, having almost zero self-preservation sense, map-awareness, basic FPS skillset.

Unfortunately Overwatch does replicate one of the things I hated most in League of Legends, there are characters that can completely exploit your teams weak links, so carrying becomes real damn hard when your team has those weak links.

Genji is just the Katarina of Overwatch. 

MAG was a similar walk-for-ten-minutes-then-die-to-someone-you-never-saw simulator and didn't last very long.  Fun fact, you can still buy it in the clearance rack of some stores despite being unplayable.

Bahahahaha. Oh man I owned this on PS3.

I frequently referenced it to friends as evidence that SOE wasn't just fucking up planetside, but was always this bad at asymmetrical balance (or at least as asymmetrical as you can get in a 3-faction shooter).

At least in MAG the maps were big enough to where player density wasn't goddamn 48+ people in one building all staring at the same 2 doorways. #50cal.saltlyfe

But let's be real here, DNC Hillary will force in Hillary again.

 

Pharah, Junkrat, and Torbjorn (especially Torb) are all good picks versus Mei.

But yeah, I can definitely see how Sombra might do against Mei. Pretty much just as well as any genji or reaper could manage.

Considering that the last time I played Overwatch I was almost exclusively playing Genji counters every round (this was before this nerf, which, thank god), so Winston & Mei and then Zarya if I actually wanted to have fun and there wasn't a mlg-pro Genji on the other team.

... We'll see how Sombra does on PTR... but I'm curious if she'll counter my waifu Zarya. Guess it depends on what the range of that hack ability is, I'm assuming it goes through shields.

... it just occurred to me, is this the Reinhardt shield counter we need? Will it still be 1 Reinhardt every round meta if you wanna win? Or does Sombra finally break that up?

... if you EMP bastion does he get taken out of turret mode?

EDIT: I'm just filled with questions today. Will Symmetra turrets target a cloaked Sombra? That would be a great stealth Symmetra buff, finally actually being able to use her turrets as "flank wards" (which I think was the original intention?), instead of just stacking 6 of them on one door for lulz. Here's hoping Symmetra just hard counters Sombra, the Symmetra buff we need.

EDIT2: I'm going to have a hilarious time typing into match chat "guys I think this Sombra is hacking!".

EDIT3: maybe I should read the thread before I post. Most of the stuff I asked seemed to be covered by @reudh in better format.

I stopped playing for a while, basically said I was going to wait for season 2 to come around or genji nerfs to come around. Guess blizzard read my mind cause they did both. Well, it's on PTR but goddamn these genji nerfs better go live.

Ah, TR and their "niche gimmick" tank that's outperformed every other tank literally forever. Those poor, poor, poor TR tankers.

I'm pretty sure their tank just had boosted stats 'cause it was the best weapon for sitting around and harvesting infantry off the sides of towers. Crossroads watchtower... that one spot where you could shoot into the biolab with your tank... other camping spots. The prowler anchor mode nerf happened so long ago I can barely remember the time they had a decent gimmick on their tank.

As it stands now the prowler is utter trash compared to the vanguard.

The prowlers damage is split between two shells, great for correcting your shot on an aircraft or double shelling infantry to oblivian, but vs other tanks it's completely awful. Turret aim isn't stabalized in planetside so you can't just fire on the move unless you're on totally flat terrain, you'll miss one of two shots probably due to hitting the tiniest little pebble on the road. The vanguard can go full speed and hit it's shot by just clicking when their target crosses the crosshair. The prowler has to maintain aim on the move, good, luck. Going anchor mode is a death sentence vs other tanks so don't bother, it used to be good when TR could anchor on a mountain ten miles away and shell you forever, but the nerf killed it.

Not to mention it's got a wider body, there are places in tech plants (and staircases everywhere else) I can maneuver a vanguard that the prowler just can't go.

I have a TR and NC character, 1200+ hours in planetside, and have played both tanks.

YES. we need more non-ultimate crowd control. (I hate genji & tracer so much)

I finished my placement matches. 7 were wins, 2 were BS loses due to the sudden death system, and the 3rd loss was when I grouped with someone else, I finished the other 9 matches alone. Giving me a placement rating of 59.


Different topic: I played league of legends forever ago, for medium bursts of time, and I played a lot of support or jungle. Unfortunately I just really don't like supports in Overwatch since it doesn't feel like I have as much affect on the proceedings as a league support, in overwatch you're more of just a big source of healing and occasionally you do something neat.