LeafsnailDemdemeh's replacement: I think I've already made most of my questions clear, and it's a shame that Dem appears to have vanished because a lot of players seem to regard a replacement as a chance to wipe the slate clean. However, I would like to ask Dem's eventual replacement to speculate on why Dem would not vote for someone they believed to be the mafia rolecop, and why they made a shorten request when the vote was not in their favour.
I believe that Dem was a panicking noob-town. Griffy lays into him with the pressure pretty hard starting
here and
doesn't let up, even when he knows
the day will end before
Dem reads his post. For someone who isn't used to this kind of intensity:
I’m actually not that assertive in real life, and I also said that I’m new to this level of focus in a forum environment.
Dem didn't really stand a chance, and ended up tunneling Griffy through he end of D1.
You want pressure? All right.
What good reason would someone have to make THAT typo? What WERE you thinking, besides "What the hell, dude?!" when Cado roleclaimed? Why did you pick that moment to jump all over me? Because I still maintain that it looks an awful lot like your buddy is doomed, and you're trying to divert pressure, just as you accused me of diverting from myself to Shinigami. You haven't said an awful lot to Cado, actually, since he claimed. Everyone else has had a lot more to say, and you even commented on MY opinion; why did you think it was my purpose to apply pressure to him when all I said was that I didn't know if he was trustworthy?
I'm tired of waiting, too. Shorten.
Here Dem is stating pretty much what you are looking for. Why is he not voting for who he suspects to be the mafia role-cop? Cado is "doomed", so Dem uses his vote to put some weight behind his case on Griffy. He thinks Griffy and Cado are the scumteam, so while everyone else has voted Cado a secured spot in the gallows, Dem is pursuing he next suspect.
Why did Dem vote for the shorten when his vote isn't going to get anything accomplished? If you look at the
votecount immediately following the post quoted above, RangerCado has 3 votes, and Dem has 2. He's worried that Cado and his scumbuddy Griffy will convince someone to switch their vote, lynching Dem instead. Now I have no idea why Dem didn't switch his own vote to Cado, but his vote to shorten does do the trick to get his scum pick of Cado lynched.
If my interpretation of Dem's actions left anything out or was unclear, please tell me Leafsnail.
Now I have some questions and points of my own for you.
You seem to be regarding Dem's being replaced as scum fleeing pressure. Do you? Why? Your question to me explicitly says this:
and it's a shame that Dem appears to have vanished because a lot of players seem to regard a replacement as a chance to wipe the slate clean.
(again, my bolding)As a quick side note, I found Lenglon's reaction to RangerCado's claim fairly convincing, while Shinigami's seems a little more forced.
Why did you not pursue this? You found something suspicious, pressure Shinigami/TWS. Who is your third scumpick? Do you even have one?
Everyone who isn't voting for Vector or Dem should be trying to explain how their actions make sense from a town perspective.
You are dead certain that Vector and I are scum. I can't speak for Vector, but what happens when I flip town? Who is your next suspect?
I guess my advice is "advice that I think will help win this game, and thus provide you with experience to help in future games"
Relating to above: You are "advising" everyone to vote to lynch me. I suppose that if I want town to win, I should follow your advice and vote myself. Or, you are scum, and so it would make perfect sense to lay down and die so you can win faster. You never specify who would be winning the game,
Leafsnail. Why then, do you advise that every player tunnels your two scumpicks?
TheWetSheepNightcrafter: Once you've finished reading, what's your opinion on Vector? How about Leafsnail?
I didn't quite get to Vector tonight, and I'd like to see her response to the questions posed to her as well.
I think that's all I'll be able to get in tonight. I've finished my read, and will go back and do more hunting tomorrow. And I do agree,
Extend.
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Topic: BM XLI: On Wings of Haven -- Scum Victory! (Read 96592 times)