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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #390 on: March 12, 2012, 02:25:12 pm »

"Right to DIe case to be heared in High Court. Could lead to interesting changes in UK law... the individual in question raises many logical (if slightly uncomfortable) points.

The story behind a Chinese TV hit - "Interviews Before Execution". Again, challenging concepts raised.
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« Reply #391 on: March 12, 2012, 02:48:19 pm »

The story behind a Chinese TV hit - "Interviews Before Execution". Again, challenging concepts raised.

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VAT fraud? Really? Was jaywalking also recently removed or is that still in there?
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #392 on: March 12, 2012, 05:47:55 pm »

Parents keep childs gender undisclosed.

I'm not sure I like either side of this story, though I'm leaning towards the parents. I dislike how... pretentious they seem, but they may not be all that pretentious, instead being the bias from the reporting.

The other side is the reporter bias, going "Look at these idiots!". I think it's a cool idea, more or less. Not something to be mocked, at least.
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« Reply #393 on: March 12, 2012, 06:12:49 pm »

Yeah, I like the idea too, but you're also correct that they - the parents - seem really pretentious. The "unschooling" more than not naming their kids though. Not the idea, I agree with the basics of it, but calling it "unschooling" is just so damn pretto.

But anyway, I enjoy the thought if it, I really dislike how people heap social rules and pressure on children before even their skull-plates grown together. I'll try to remember this ifever I have a kid or two ;)
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« Reply #394 on: March 12, 2012, 06:24:48 pm »

I think they would have a hard time justifying to me how thier methods are in the long term best interestes of the child though - as far as I can see it makes minimal impact on the life of the child short term (based on my own 2 girls, kids just really want to be kids and have only a minimal understanding of the badges we give them at a very young age), and allows them to "pedastal" themselves as if on some kind of moral crusade against a "probably not really there" enemy. But hey, whatever works for them in terms of producing a stable and happy family unit - having my own kids makes me kind of biased here, which I am fully aware of.
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« Reply #395 on: March 12, 2012, 06:37:38 pm »

Oh no, trust me, kids have an excellent understanding of what society wants them to be. They're learning machines, it's the only thing they do besides eating and pooping. It's already been proven that people act different towards infants depending on what gender they think the infants have, laying the foundations for the gender roles, and yeah, socialisation starts from the minute we are born. There is no "imaginary enemy" here.
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« Reply #397 on: March 12, 2012, 07:16:13 pm »

Those parents are tripping my Crazy Alarm.
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« Reply #398 on: March 12, 2012, 07:18:11 pm »

The Idea: Good, if a bit unorthodox. I don't think it was well executed in this case, though.

The Parents: Pretentious but well-meaning.

The Reporter: Asshat full of bias.
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« Reply #399 on: March 12, 2012, 07:23:50 pm »

Oh no, trust me, kids have an excellent understanding of what society wants them to be. They're learning machines, it's the only thing they do besides eating and pooping. It's already been proven that people act different towards infants depending on what gender they think the infants have, laying the foundations for the gender roles, and yeah, socialisation starts from the minute we are born. There is no "imaginary enemy" here.
Does that mean that treating girls as males would be an excellent way to get them into STEM fields?
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« Reply #400 on: March 12, 2012, 07:33:49 pm »

I don't know what that means.
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« Reply #401 on: March 12, 2012, 07:36:01 pm »

I don't know what that means.
Science
Technology
Engineering
Mathamatics

Making sure most people are versed in at least one of these fields is a goalpost for public education.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Expression Thread
« Reply #402 on: March 12, 2012, 07:37:28 pm »

Those parents are awesome.
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« Reply #403 on: March 12, 2012, 07:38:26 pm »

^^ That. Unfortunately, women are still grossly underrepresented in those fields (at least, in the west. Ironically, in more patriarchal countries, the male/woman ratio in STEM fields is much closer to unity)
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« Reply #404 on: March 12, 2012, 08:27:22 pm »

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