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[Leafsnail]

I watched it in time.  Why would you "show it again without the filter" and then censor it anyway??  Argh.

[kaenneth]

Welcome to America. Don't look the crazies in the eye, they'll start preaching Jesus if you do.

But... there are several quotes in the Bible that are at least arguably actually against homosexuality!  Why would you pick a completely irrelevant one?

take "You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable."

Remember at the time Women were basically property, almost like cattle.

So maybe what it really means is that when you 'lay' with men, you should treat them with respect, as a fellow man; and not just use them, like with a woman/sheep.

Also, how should Women read that command?, Are women banned from having sex with men, or at least not like they lay with women?, does that mean the bible specifically OKs lesbians?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Also, how should Women read that command?, Are women banned from having sex with men, or at least not like they lay with women?, does that mean the bible specifically OKs lesbians?

Strangely enough, go down the first column on this chart and look at the abnormally high number of "Male illegal, Female legal" nations.

[Truean]

Welcome to America. Don't look the crazies in the eye, they'll start preaching Jesus if you do.

But... there are several quotes in the Bible that are at least arguably actually against homosexuality!  Why would you pick a completely irrelevant one?

take "You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable."

Remember at the time Women were basically property, almost like cattle.

So maybe what it really means is that when you 'lay' with men, you should treat them with respect, as a fellow man; and not just use them, like with a woman/sheep.

Also, how should Women read that command?, Are women banned from having sex with men, or at least not like they lay with women?, does that mean the bible specifically OKs lesbians?

Uh, far simpler explanation: Women were property in the bible. They pretty much didn't matter, and if you were a girl it was an extra special bad sin not to obey your father or husband. Really, the whole book is gender biased from Eve right on down.

As for why he tried to use that quote, cause it was said by Jesus, who you know, seems to be a big deal and people know him or something. I guess it just holds more weight. Fact is, he didn't say anything about it, but truth doesn't seem to stop the particularly crazy ones. The guy quoted here is actually talking about laying down his life for his friends, which has nothing to do with anything in this context, but then expecting a fundie to make sense just ... is a waste most of the time.

At the end of the day, this was somebody who was pissed off over any support of homosexuality. And, you know what's sad? A few years ago, that kinda thing would've worked. It would've massively worked. Opposing a company for supporting gay rights 10 or 20 years ago (and especially further back) would've been a totally legit strategy and very, very effective. These people are at a total loss as to what to do now that this old trick isn't an automatic win. It used to be all you had to say was "Gay? Ewww." That was the end of pretty much anything that had to do with gay rights getting any serious support until very recent times.  With several people today, it's still all they need to 86 something. The notion that gays fit somewhere, anywhere into a family and [fake gasp] a family with children... is unthinkable to many in the US today. That's part of the reason why all the anti gay groups are "family" or "traditional marriage" groups. My response if only I could say it, "You don't wanna talk to your kid about it? So your solution is for me to alter my entire life because you can't have a conversation with your brat? Yeah, well I don't wanna live in a world where I have to explain to anyone not to wear socks with sandals but here you are...."

[Leafsnail]

Another one is that people were homophobic in the past but that's no reason to be homophobic today.

[RedKing]

Also, how should Women read that command?, Are women banned from having sex with men, or at least not like they lay with women?, does that mean the bible specifically OKs lesbians?

Strangely enough, go down the first column on this chart and look at the abnormally high number of "Male illegal, Female legal" nations.

Well, duh. Even most straight men find lesbians HAWT.

[EveryZig]

Meanwhile, in Texas: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/texas_gops_2012_platform_accidentally_opposes_teaching_of_critical_thinking_skills.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

[RedKing]

Meanwhile, in Texas: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/texas_gops_2012_platform_accidentally_opposes_teaching_of_critical_thinking_skills.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

Yeah, we had that 3 pages back:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=103213.msg3406529#msg3406529

Much chortling and eye-rolling was had.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Meanwhile, in Texas: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/texas_gops_2012_platform_accidentally_opposes_teaching_of_critical_thinking_skills.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

How the fuck is that an accident.

[Truean]

Meanwhile, in Texas: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/texas_gops_2012_platform_accidentally_opposes_teaching_of_critical_thinking_skills.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

How the fuck is that an accident.

The accidental part was how they didn't think of how any sane person would react before they got stuck with it until 2014....

[Euld]

On Homosexuality:

    We affirm that the practice of homosexuality tears at the fabric of society and contributes to the breakdown of the family unit. Homosexual behavior is contrary to the fundamental, unchanging truths that have been ordained by God, recognized by our country’s founders, and shared by the majority of Texans. Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle, in public policy, nor should “family” be redefined to include homosexual “couples.” We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin. Additionally, we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction or belief in traditional values.

>_>;

[Levi]

Why are Texans so obsessed about other peoples sex-lives?  They should be less nosy and worry about their own genitals! 

[kaijyuu]

Because FAMILY VALUES and UR DIFFERENT SO I DUN LIKE U.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Additionally, we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction or belief in traditional values.

>_>;

So basically, for any reason.

[kaijyuu]

That particular line is rather stupid since it's not saying anything, really. Civil or criminal penalties would come from hate crimes/etc, not simply "opposing homosexuality." No one but the thought police is saying they have to like it.