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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1247127 times)

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3960 on: November 10, 2012, 06:11:07 pm »

Pretty much.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3961 on: November 10, 2012, 06:19:18 pm »

A few permanent widened Calm Emotions would do for starters.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3962 on: November 10, 2012, 06:30:07 pm »

So magic AND a lawful evil alignment 
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3963 on: November 10, 2012, 06:31:53 pm »

Nope, any bard or cleric can cast it.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3964 on: November 10, 2012, 08:00:19 pm »

First of all guns and ammunition aren't all that hard to make, ammunition is a bit harder to make from scratch but completely doable.
The problem isn't guns, guns have been apart of american culture since it's inception. Before columbine kids at my high school took hunting rifles with them to school so they could hunt after, it didn't have people dying left and right.

Guns don't magically make people into mass murderers, blaming guns diverts attention from the underlying problem.

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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3965 on: November 10, 2012, 08:06:24 pm »

The problem isn't guns, guns have been apart of american culture since it's inception.
The second part of this statement doesn't really refute the first
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3966 on: November 10, 2012, 08:07:44 pm »

Violent crime is going down and gun laws are at some of their laxest in US history, so I'm thinking there isn't a very strong correlation between the two.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3967 on: November 10, 2012, 08:09:37 pm »

They're going down because people just couldn't figure out how to commit more in a shorter amount of of time and they had to take a break! [/snark]
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3968 on: November 10, 2012, 08:12:32 pm »

Oh, and I forgot to mention (though Kilroy did) that supporting a gun/ammunition ban would be political suicide almost anywhere in the US.

To not be royally trounced after doing so in the following election, the district would have to both be unusually progressive and anti-gun progressive at that. For example, if you tried to do so in Vermont, a veritable Democratic stronghold and one of the first to support the PPCA, you would be thrown out in five seconds because Vermont has one of the highest rates of gun ownership in the US. Really, gun control on a large scale ceased to be politically viable somewhere in the 1990s.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3969 on: November 10, 2012, 08:15:31 pm »

They're going down because people just couldn't figure out how to commit more in a shorter amount of of time and they had to take a break! [/snark]
They're going down because we're running out of victims. Send help before our murder economy crashes.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3970 on: November 10, 2012, 08:21:33 pm »

You know it's possible that there is more than one factor affecting the violent crime rate.

Oh, and I forgot to mention (though Kilroy did) that supporting a gun/ammunition ban would be political suicide almost anywhere in the US.
Wait a second, am I getting a "majority is always right" lecture from a Ron Paul supporter?
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3971 on: November 10, 2012, 08:46:19 pm »

You know it's possible that there is more than one factor affecting the violent crime rate.

Oh, and I forgot to mention (though Kilroy did) that supporting a gun/ammunition ban would be political suicide almost anywhere in the US.
Wait a second, am I getting a "majority is always right" lecture from a Ron Paul supporter?

Not right necessarily. Just pointing out that it wouldn't pass even if it was a good idea and there wasn't a gigantic pile of evidence showing gun control to be unsuccessful at stopping homicide.
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3972 on: November 10, 2012, 10:28:05 pm »

Plenty of countries have gun ownership but low gun crime. Much as I have a strong distaste for firearms (I come from a culture where they're only really owned by police, military or criminals) it's not gun ownership in itself that's the cause of gun crime in the US.

It's because Americans can't fight using their fists like REAL MEN ;)
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Re: PoH's Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #3973 on: November 10, 2012, 10:35:44 pm »

A better vetting and re-qualification system would probably cut down on the number of accidental gun deaths (and the non-fatal incidents as well, of course), though, which are pretty far from non-zero. All I'm really after in the realm of US gun control is better pre-ownership training and an occasional checkup to make sure folks haven't forgotten what the hell they're doing. I've mentioned it before, but my own experiences with gun ownership and licensing haven't exactly filled me with confidence in the system as-is.
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« Reply #3974 on: November 10, 2012, 10:52:49 pm »

Anti-gay and can't win in the USA? Bring the war elsewhere!

And then start an anti-gay rebellion anyway or something

It's amazing the sort of fear people have about equal rights.
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