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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1244278 times)

Vector

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6075 on: June 21, 2013, 05:34:01 pm »
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6076 on: June 21, 2013, 05:46:04 pm »
Quote from: Vector on June 21, 2013, 05:34:01 pm
This is also infuriating.  Please read it.

Wages, disability, etc.

"The Free Market will take care of it." [uncontrollable laughing]

Yeah, this is a result of that. The magic belief that things will just basically "magically work out" is the belief of spoiled children who have lived off the golden age of America after WWII when the government controlled EVERYTHING and seized every aspect of the economy to drag us out of the great depression.

The great feats of Engineering are in China now, not America....
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6077 on: June 21, 2013, 05:50:20 pm »
Quote from: Truean on June 21, 2013, 05:46:04 pm
Quote from: Vector on June 21, 2013, 05:34:01 pm
This is also infuriating.  Please read it.

Wages, disability, etc.

"The Free Market will take care of it." [uncontrollable laughing]

Yeah, this is a result of that.
You just can't put a price on equality.
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Truean

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6078 on: June 21, 2013, 05:50:44 pm »
Quote from: Loud Whispers on June 21, 2013, 05:50:20 pm
Quote from: Truean on June 21, 2013, 05:46:04 pm
Quote from: Vector on June 21, 2013, 05:34:01 pm
This is also infuriating.  Please read it.

Wages, disability, etc.

"The Free Market will take care of it." [uncontrollable laughing]

Yeah, this is a result of that.
You just can't put a price on equality.

Haven't we? I think it was insultingly low.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6079 on: June 21, 2013, 05:50:56 pm »
I'm not sure how wages are handled here, although I'm fairly sure it's not as infuriatingly bad as in the US, but there are plans to have a minimum of 5% of a 25+ person company to be a disabled person.

Didn't really pay attention to the fact, but this reminded me of it.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6080 on: June 21, 2013, 05:55:30 pm »
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6081 on: June 21, 2013, 05:55:51 pm »
Quote from: Vector on June 21, 2013, 05:34:01 pm
This is also infuriating.  Please read it.

Wages, disability, etc.
That is really unfair. I have to say though I don't quite understand US labour laws anyways. I would probably suggest to overwrite soon-to-be 100 year old laws.
We don't have a minimum wage, but at this rate of income you'd be eligible for welfare (as are many non-disabled working people). There are hiring plans for disabled people too, in theory you can't reject them if they are as qualified for the job as any other. Then there are state-owned facilities where disabled people can work for (what I hope is) a decent compensation.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6082 on: June 21, 2013, 05:58:51 pm »
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6083 on: June 21, 2013, 06:56:00 pm »
Petitioning the government for a redress of your grievances is now terrorism

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/21/official-says-water-complaints-act-of-terrorism/2445071/

I am going to go cry silent manly tears for what was once a beutiful nation. Just like this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGu4AwL5Kho
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6084 on: June 21, 2013, 07:12:19 pm »
Quote from: Nadaka on June 21, 2013, 06:56:00 pm
Petitioning the government for a redress of your grievances is now terrorism

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/21/official-says-water-complaints-act-of-terrorism/2445071/
I freaking called it. EVERYONE freaking called it. Everything is terrorism. Nothing is too sacred to be killed in the war against terrorism. Everything is terrorism.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6085 on: June 21, 2013, 07:14:53 pm »
Tennessee scares me, it really does. Whenever I get too happy, too complacent, I just remind myself that places like Tennessee exist in First-world Countries.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6086 on: June 21, 2013, 07:18:58 pm »
Quote from: Nadaka on June 21, 2013, 06:56:00 pm
Petitioning the government for a redress of your grievances is now terrorism

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/21/official-says-water-complaints-act-of-terrorism/2445071/

I am going to go cry silent manly tears for what was once a beutiful nation. Just like this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGu4AwL5Kho
When was that? When the economy was built by slaves? When we fought wars of baseless conquest? When we rebuilt a broken economy on what amounts to war-profiteering?
Nadaka don't be a nostalgic. The USA has always been pretty effed up.

(DURRDURRDURR)
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6087 on: June 21, 2013, 07:27:10 pm »
Quote from: Devling on June 21, 2013, 07:18:58 pm
Quote from: Nadaka on June 21, 2013, 06:56:00 pm
Petitioning the government for a redress of your grievances is now terrorism

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/21/official-says-water-complaints-act-of-terrorism/2445071/

I am going to go cry silent manly tears for what was once a beutiful nation. Just like this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGu4AwL5Kho
When was that? When the economy was built by slaves? When we fought wars of baseless conquest? When we rebuilt a broken economy on what amounts to war-profiteering?
Truean don't be a nostalgic. The USA has always been pretty effed up.
[that's not Truean; don't get your kitties mixed up]
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6088 on: June 21, 2013, 07:29:04 pm »
Probably. it just seems like no matter what progress is made, the persistence of erosion still tears down everything we build, and those noble ideals will always remain out of reach.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6089 on: June 21, 2013, 07:32:48 pm »
Avatar confusion? You know what that means...
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