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Author Topic: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!  (Read 805667 times)

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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #3825 on: October 03, 2016, 04:50:10 am »

I can't find how many two by four you get from log in item browser.
A lot more than 3. So it looks like sawing them up will pay off. Perhaps splintering them even moreso, I'll have a look and see how many splinters I get from disassembling a 2x4. Thanks for the info.

EDIT:
Using a wood saw on a log, at survival level 7 if that matters, gives me 9 2x4s and 3 splintered woods.
Cutting up a 2x4 into splintered woods yields 5 splinters.
So apparently I should cut up the logs into planks for a 300% efficiency increase, but not cut those up into splinters.

Don't know if an electric circular saw or a chainsaw changes the log - plank conversion rate

Unrelated: I've finally decided to stop using the water pool room in the LMOE, and install myself in the former gun room. I always disliked how the water cuts out a tile of a 5x5 area, and this room has the added benefit of being closer to the exit. Removing the lower fence created some nice space for a charcoal kiln and smoking rack.
I found an electric jackhammer on my last raid, So I might hack a piece out of the south wall so I need to walk 15 tiles less to refill my water jerrycan. The bed next to the up stairs is for the NPC to sleep on.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #3826 on: October 03, 2016, 06:32:51 am »

Who, did they change the LMOE layout?
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #3827 on: October 03, 2016, 06:34:40 am »

Yes and no. The old one also still exists, but yeah, this is a new one.

EDIT: also, as for the charcoal thing; it looks like sawing a trunk straight into planks instead of into logs further increases the amount of 2x4s you can get out of it.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #3828 on: October 03, 2016, 08:11:33 am »

What can I use starch for? Mashed up some cattail rhizomes into it in my eternal winter thing, but I have literally zero clue what I can use it for. I have cooking level one, obviously. Do starch based cooking things come in at level two? If not, what can it be used for?

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« Reply #3829 on: October 03, 2016, 08:36:25 am »

It's description tells you that it can be used to make flour. You need 2 starch to make 1 flour though, so if you only made 1 it's useless and will rot pretty fast.

Even though there's gazillion ways of making flour, cat tails are nice in that they also yield plant fibers as a byproduct.

EDIT: haha, I barfed (probably because of the low garde meth). I then tried to mop it up by applying a mop while standing on the square.
"You mop yourself up. The universe implodes and reforms around you".
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #3830 on: October 03, 2016, 10:39:56 am »

Aaaah. I have five. So I can make two flour and just eat the last one i suppose :P

And yeah. I like the easter eggs relating to using commands on yourself. IIRC, using a lockpick on yourself makes you pick your nose.

EDIT: Random bad idea of the day! Because the bad suggestion thread isn't good enough :P

We already model vitamins and stuff. Why not semi-realistically model weight and height! Make it an option in character creation that can be modified by traits, diet, and stats. Height is static after character gen, but weight will change depending on how well you've been taking care of yourself! No more waiting six days between meals as a normal everyday joe. Because being dangerously underweight's probably a bad thing :P
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #3831 on: October 04, 2016, 03:48:27 am »

My mental eye sees a morbidly obese survivor wearing a Make America Great Again cap driving around on a mobility scooter and toting two M-16's while going YEEEHAW!
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« Reply #3832 on: October 04, 2016, 04:11:17 am »

Holy~! That was close. I got a bit overconfident in my car. Drove over two landmines with a standard frame, barely modified flatbed. Only thing it had extra were some military composite plates on the front 5 tiles.

Miraculously, the first mine took out a wheel to grey status, the second mine ripped off the remains of that wheel. Except for a few scratches to a windshield, no further damage. I could just drive back home and get that spare tire.

So yeah, I just survived driving over two landmines xD. That's what you get for going 120km/h over unexplored grasslands.

Also, unrelated. NPCs and nail rifles go well together, after some sessions reading markmanship and rifling books out loud. I was kinda hesistant about giving my NPC a ranged weapon, but so far I've not been friendly fired upon yet. And the nail rifle is silent enough to not worry too much about the sound.
I would carry one myself, if the damn thing would only fit in the survivor harness. Neither it, nor the coilgun do, sadly.

EDIT: ohwait! A coilgun does fit in the harness, after adding a folding stock.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #3833 on: October 04, 2016, 06:27:40 am »

Whats a LMOE?
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« Reply #3834 on: October 04, 2016, 07:05:54 am »

"Last Man On Earth", basically the lair of a hardcore prepper.

On the overmap, they are depicted as +, just like normal shelters, but red instead of white. Usually they're a bit secluded. They're somewhat rare, and arguably one of the best base locations that can be claimed without going through any trouble (except for the finding one part) if you don't like mobile bases.

Sure, labs make for way better bases (if only because of their freezing lower levels which should make food never spoil), but you'd need to access and clear them out first.
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #3835 on: October 04, 2016, 07:49:11 am »

LMOE also have a water source, a wood stove, some guns and ammo, some food...
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« Reply #3836 on: October 04, 2016, 01:25:38 pm »

I just had my first experience with factions. Found an inhabited refugee shelter. Busy doing quests now for them, and the 'Old Guard' representative on site. Good times. Dead bandits. I wonder if my NPC roommate will eat human meat products.
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« Reply #3837 on: October 04, 2016, 02:14:26 pm »

I just had my first experience with factions. Found an inhabited refugee shelter. Busy doing quests now for them, and the 'Old Guard' representative on site. Good times. Dead bandits. I wonder if my NPC roommate will eat human meat products.
Sounds like a much better experience than my first encounter with the refugee center.  Molotov-wielding arsonist in the front door + hostile critter (zombie or mi-go; I forget which) behind me = !!FUN!!  Thus began and ended my first encounter with the refugee center. :P
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Re: Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead - 0.C is out! Our monsters fight each other!
« Reply #3839 on: October 04, 2016, 02:30:51 pm »

Gas lamps exist, yes.
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