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Author Topic: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol  (Read 18033 times)

Kashyyk

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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #225 on: February 17, 2019, 07:06:24 pm »

Quote from: Tŵr Awyr Arfog (Revision)
The "Armed Air Tower" is a simple modification of our current balloon. It consists of three pintle mounts and an easily (de)attachable Chained Corn machinecannon. This will allow a fine to quickly move the weapon to a point which can fire on enemy aircraft, and then heavily discourage them from hanging around any further.
 

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Three next evolution of engine design, this is a twin-row 20 cylinder radial engine, providing 400hp in total. To aid in cooling the second row, a set of baffles and fins help drive air flow around the engine. As part of the work, we should be able to produce revisions of our current aircraft that include the new Rhodri 20-400. If the Saltviosi want a scourge,  then a scourge they shall have.

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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #226 on: February 18, 2019, 05:45:00 pm »

Spoiler: LDA ABC15 "Clogfeini" (click to show/hide)

Quote from: LDA C15 GC100 "Dau Hestawr" Series
This bomb series, designed to be built within the area of two standard Hestawr placed end-to-end, are a set of various 18.5" diamiter and 32" long bombs with an improved tail section(to aid accuricy), with the standard HE bombs('A') weighing in at 100lb total.
 Part of this design is focused on variants of the standard bomb. Chief among these are the "Ysmygwr"'B', containing a below-weight charge of white phosphorus inorder to provide the means of providing smoke cover without the generals on the ground having to "waste" barrage time on it.
 Other variants are the "Wy"(an empty casing with a parachute packed within the tail section and designation C) and the "Gloddiwr"(an armor penetrating bomb based off of our navies' shells that looses much of its high-explosive charge to gain an armored nosecap to allow it to penetrate fortifications prior to detonation. Designation D)
 For reference:
 LDA C15 CG100/A is HE
 LDA C15 CG100/B is WP/Smoke
 LDA C15 CG100/C: Cargo
 LDA C15 CG100/D: AP
Note on naming. The reason this A-D ass exists opposed to simply names is because Im rather sure that Joe wont simply give us a "LDA C15 CG100 "Dau Hestawr" to build for all of its sub-bits.

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Add Rhodri 18-300 D15 engine. Replace control surfaces with larger, more efficient ones. Streamline fuselage.

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3 dice to the Rhodri 20-400: (1) Kashyyk
four dice to Clogfeini project, extra die for reduced expense: (1) AseaHeru

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Save two dice for revisions: (1) AseaHeru
« Last Edit: February 23, 2019, 09:38:24 pm by Aseaheru »
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #227 on: February 19, 2019, 02:21:26 pm »

I suppose I should make my support for this official.

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four dice to Clogfeini project, extra die for reduced expense: (2) AseaHeru, Kashyyk

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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #228 on: February 23, 2019, 09:25:46 pm »

Design Phase, Late Spring 1915
Quote from: LDA ABC15 "Clogfeini"
Labordai Dylunio Awyrennau's "Clogfeini" bomber is a radical departure from local aircraft design, being a twin-tailed forward-staggered, two-bay, wire braced constant chord, tapered outer dihedral sesquiplane(with solid wings noless, with fueltanks built within) powered by four(two per wing) wing-mounted engine pods(intergrated into the wing's struts) for a total of eight 300 hp 18-cylinder double-bank rotary engines(REW's newest offering)  in tractor-pusher "gyferbyn â chleddyf" configuration with an intended crew of atleast 6(10 preferred) and equipped with mounting points for no less than 6 sets of flexible gun mounts(nose, tail, dorsal, ventral-ish and two casemated, one on each side, all mounting the the recently built Cadwynog ŷd AGAA CD15 Mark 1 with their Drych sights. The nose and dorsal mounts are ring mounts, the others are holes with mounting hardware) intended to carry up to one ton of Deg punt Tri modfedd Bombs(able to be "aimed" via modified plotting tables and a version of the Drych sight equipped with offset mechanisms for airspeed) or two and a half tons(5600lb) of cargo(At the cost of reduced range: only perhaps 300 miles over the intended 600 with a bombload. At a cruising speed of about 100mph, this equates to three hours of flight time instead of six 6.) in a central bay and be equipped with a pair of GW78 Radios and a  pair Llygad Hir Cameras(one downlooking, one offset 30 degrees to the left). Apparently the whole thing is based off of a Russian designed commercial airliner that flew even prior to the start of the great war, suitably updated(according to the design notes) with the best aircraft design techniques including improved geodetic framing(including strategically placed sections made of duralumin framing as opposed to simply wood), improvements on our movable control surfaces, vastly more powerful engines, and significant efforts made to reduce drag and increase strength with the exterior being formed of corrugated plywood sheathing.
Time: 4 | Progress: 6 | Expense: 4

The Clogfeini is a project that is likely to last for some time, though luckily its likely not to cost too much relatively speaking thanks to some cost cutting measures and some lucky contracts, somewhat spurred on by the desire to make a aircraft that doesn't need an escort or support to make it to the target, even with the recent worries of the enemy's Adderbolt, which has spurred on the designers to work fast and efficiently on the craft.

LDA ABC15 "Clogfeini" | 6/30 progress | 4 PP per die | Rushed 0 times | 4 PP invested

Effectiveness: 6 | Cost: 1 6 | Bugs: 6 (Really?)

The Clogfeini is what can solidly be called a heavy bomber with a geodetic frame and cantilever wings that have two bays and a forward stagger while, similarly to a certain other heavy bomber, is a sesquiplane. Despite low early estimates at speed, due to the grand total of eight large and powerful Rhodri 18-300 D15 it can fly fairly quickly, at least when not fully loaded, at cruise speed, and even then its somewhat faster then expected when loaded to its maximum. It should be noted however that it 'drinks up fuel like its whisky' as one engineer put it, but its not really an issue considering how large the aircraft is and considering the fuel tanks it has stores enough fuel that it can go a fair distance.

When it comes to defenses the aircraft has, one might argue that is is excessive. Containing a crew of 10, of those, only the pilot, bombardier, flight engineer and a navigator aren't gunners, the other a six defend the aircraft with the guns in the nose, tail, upper wing, bottom, and the sides of the aircraft with the Cadwynog ŷd AGAA CD15 Mark 1, all of it making the craft practically always able to defend itself from almost any angle. Its bomb load is quite frankly huge, with two and a half tons of bombs ready to be dropped at short range, and a bit over one and a half tons for longer ranged missions.

Luckily, despite the absolutely massive craft, lots of care was given to make the craft as cost efficient as possible, and that was achieved thanks to the contracts mentioned earlier, which will certainly allow for the bombers to be massive hitting machines. Despite this however, it is expected to cost a lot due to its size, but quality beats quantity...

Deuparth gwaith yw ei ddechrau



Codi Sheision Gollwng Clwb's "Parasiwt" (2 die spent, 0 die rushed)

Progress 5+2 = 7/7. 6 PP spent

After all the work on the Clogfeini, our engineers weren't so motivated to work on the Parasiwt, much more inclined to go on perfecting the work on the great big aircraft that surely will make the enemy rule the day. They still would get the chute done however, despite their focus lying elsewhere. Nothing else really is to be said...

Project Complete! You can now equip all squadrons with the Parasiwt!



It is now the Revision Phase. You have 1 die remaining to spend on Revisions or Save for the next turn.

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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #229 on: February 23, 2019, 09:33:13 pm »

Oof, thought we had two dice, not one. Ahwell, dont need the bombs this second.

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C15 Mod 2 Tŵr Awyr/Tŵr Awyr Arfog : (0) |
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #230 on: February 24, 2019, 12:07:43 pm »

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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #231 on: March 09, 2019, 01:45:38 pm »

Revision Phase, Late Spring 1915
Quote from: ACG-AMD AC15 Mod2 Nodwydd(Revision)
Add Rhodri 18-300 D15 engine. Replace control surfaces with larger, more efficient ones. Streamline fuselage.

Efficacy: 6

Despite limited instruction given to our engineers, the first part of the work was easy enough, even if the Rhodri 18-300 D15 is still quite new and we had to do some management to get proper large scale production of the thing up and ready. Either way, we touched up a bit of the Nodwydd's aerodynamics and control surfaces and were able to improve them slightly as well. It also should be needless to say the craft is actually quite fast now that we have, in the most layman of terms, essentially strapped an oversized engine to the back, though it a bit tail heavy because of this... Costs 1PP to retrofit.



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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #232 on: March 10, 2019, 05:41:47 pm »


By scrapping two balloons, we can field four Mod2 Nodwydd squadrons,. This allows us to deploy either a bomber/balloon to each of the four main fronts with a dedicated Nodwydd squadron for defence. If Schwartz keeps to theme, they'll stack certain fronts, letting us push through on others. If they do split up, they'll be forced to face a dedicated support/combat pair whilst they will likely give split orders.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #233 on: March 11, 2019, 07:13:49 am »

I support Kashyyk's idea, as more nodwydd squadrons has a chance to actually change stuff.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #234 on: March 11, 2019, 08:19:44 am »

I object to the name, but otherwise, sure.


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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #235 on: April 02, 2019, 06:34:34 am »

Design Phase, Early Summer 1916
There is a new ace, Bradwen Beavin in Esgob Adran

The admirals request aircraft assigned to the eastern front to stop the bombing of shipping and their radioing in of the locations of any ships they spot.

The general on the road to Nachtburg and the one on the road to Horchrotes Schloss would like a lot more aircraft to support their advances and shoot down the enemy that seems to keep flying over head.

General Dremidydd Rosser is very annoyed by the lack of support, but offers to support you and use some of his authority in the soon to come meetings so long as you promise to dedicate at least four squadrons of aircraft specifically to his side of the front until winter comes. Meanwhile the general in charge of the advance on Sprungburg would simply like more aircraft, however, he is oddly fine with not receiving any for the time being.

A man named Munenori Hamasaki and a few pilots and aircraft from the shirohon southern territories have arrived with an offer to temporarily join the Brenhinol in exchange for 1 PP per two weeks, and are willing to stay for a month and a half, totaling 3 PP. They seem to have a burning fury against the Samurai of the Shirohon Capitol Region and seem to have nothing good to say about the god king either. It is clear that the extent that tensions in Shirohon have reached is more than was initially believed, and it is quite obvious that if they were in the same air space of Samurai pilots, its likely both of their safety wouldn't be assured...The planes at their disposal are 5 seater twin engine long range aircraft. While not suited for dogfighting. It relies on two pintile mounted machineguns, one mounted forward of the pilot, one behind. It also boasts a bomb bay. They seem to be copying our ways, seeing the effect of ground attack and turret gunners. Also that radial engine looks quite familiar. It's key feature is sustainability. Able to keep planes in the air even with severe wing damage.

High command has increased your budget by 3 PP, as the country devotes more factories to war.

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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #236 on: April 02, 2019, 07:26:24 am »

Well that was unpleasant, but maybe we can salvage something from this.

I think we should take up General Rosser on his offer. We've already been putting four squadrons on a single attack in the central front,  and with Sprungburg happy to go with it for some bizarre reason, we should be able to keep up our end if the bargain. We can use his weight with our own to push for increased funding, which will seriously open up options for us, considering how goddam expensive our planes are getting.

Speaking of, I suggest the following plan:
Spend 3 dice and 12PP on the Clogfeini, and 3PP on hiring those rogue Schiro pilots. We can then study their big fancy planes with our revisions and see if we can't apply any of it to the Clogfeini. We can then throw them into the most dangerous combats, cos we'll only have them for three turns anyway so it doesn't matter if we tank their XP.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #237 on: April 02, 2019, 02:58:33 pm »

A turn is a month and a half, or half a season. Sorry for any misunderstandings.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #238 on: April 03, 2019, 06:05:27 pm »

I would like to get some some bombs under works, but how exactly depends on what Joe states the following is.

Quote from: Hey Joe, this a design or a revision?
Quote from: LDA C15 GC100 "Dau Hestawr" Series
This bomb series, designed to be built within the area of two standard Hestawr placed end-to-end, are a set of various 18.5" diamiter and 32" long bombs with an improved tail section(to aid accuracy), with the standard HE bombs('A') weighing in at 100lb total.
 Part of this design is focused on variants of the standard bomb. Chief among these are the "Ysmygwr"'B', containing a below-weight charge of white phosphorus inorder to provide the means of providing smoke cover without the generals on the ground having to "waste" barrage time on it.
 Other variants are the "Wy"(an empty casing with a parachute packed within the tail section and designation C) and the "Gloddiwr"(an armor penetrating bomb based off of our navies' shells that looses much of its high-explosive charge to gain an armored nosecap to allow it to penetrate fortifications prior to detonation. Designation D)
 For reference:
 LDA C15 CG100/A is HE
 LDA C15 CG100/B is WP/Smoke
 LDA C15 CG100/C: Cargo
 LDA C15 CG100/D: AP
Note on naming. The reason this A-D ass exists opposed to simply names is because Im rather sure that Joe wont simply give us a "LDA C15 CG100 "Dau Hestawr" to build for all of its sub-bits.



 Right, Joe has stated asof 2019-4-4 12:31 EST that the bomb project is a revision. I would like to do it, save two dice for next turn, and put two into the bombers.

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-Spend three dice on LDA ABC15 "Clogfeini",? | () :

I must say, I am somewhat interested in what wing construction those Schiros got that wouldent be covered by geometric framing... Unless, of course, said framing doesent apply to the wings, which may be the case.
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Re: They Who Dare: The Principality of Pren Gwyn - Gwylio Awyr Brenhinol
« Reply #239 on: April 05, 2019, 07:30:49 am »

I had a few other revision ideas that may be worth reviewing as well:

- Applique armour for the Saethydd
- Twin MG ring mount on the Saethydd
- Cost Reduction for the Nodwydd
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