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Author Topic: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Strategy Phase 10  (Read 39782 times)

flazeo25

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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #480 on: May 07, 2020, 02:54:13 pm »

Magoc Faith
While we are cult we aren't disorganized and not clear where we belong, Magoc can't tolerate that so he gathered his faithful from all various creations and regulars belong his flock and had them organize his cult, first he taught them the teachings of Magoc and had them bind it to scripture, next he made those most devouted acylotes and some uruks under go special training these would be called 'clerics' each taught the scripture and dark prayers of Magoc and would run his chapterhouses that would be built.

Magoc faith couldn't just be hidden so they would go public where the cult would set up chapterhouses in large villages and cities. The chapterhouses would house where mass would take place to offer dark prayers to Magoc, to see corruptive blessing be performed and to act and command points for the faith. The faith would be run like propersity cult but each initiate would pass the ranks by devouting themselves to Magoc, either through recruiting others, advancing the cult agenda, devouting themselves heavily to sin and sinking into it.

When initate rank up they can get access to better bootlegger drinks that will fill their growing thirst or undergo one of many programs of dark bapitism(get turn into one of our various type of our mutants types). Each chapterhouse would also have auxillary 'Dream Desire' operatied by consort to fill the desires of our faithful and potential new converts. It also house a bootlegger club thanks to either corrupting local officals or bribing them off to allow the chapterhouses to be built. Final program is oprhanage where faithful raise those living on streets giving shelter to them they are though ways of the cult and(possibly be abducted for experiments by draughtsmiths or warcasters).

All faithful are given symbols to carry around their neck or as ring that engraved with our heraldry.

Dream Web
A ritual spell that activated when a few Language of Inception are inscribed in area creating a large permiter that causes those that fall a sleep in it expierence pleasures and hedeonism offered by our consort, each dream covers as many people as ritual can accomdate and is manged by a single Consort who runs it like flock, influencing them to Magoc cause.

Herald of Mind
A modified symbol of Language of Inception that is inscribed onto objects or buildings hidden by our cultists that can infuse those exposed to to self loathing overtime causing fatigue and sorrow and on other times Envy causing them fly into rants of loathing what those around are better at and drawing into manic cycle capable of violence.

Quote from: Magocbox
The Redband Pirates Syndicate: (1) TricMagic
Frag: (1) MoP
Blood-drinker Blades: (2) Kashyyk, MoP,
Criminal Syndicates: (2) Kashyyk, TricMagic
Arianna Twist Queen (1) Flazeo255
Magoc Faith (1) Flazeo255

Edit: Changed my vote.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2020, 06:04:14 pm by flazeo25 »
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #481 on: May 07, 2020, 03:57:46 pm »

Seed of Eden
An alchemicly(& Evil) mutated seed that grows apple trees. The trees mature over the course of a month, before endlessly budding apples over the course of each day which only regrow once plucked. Their taste is divine to the tongue, and fills the body. A bushel of apples is enough for a family to live off of for that day. One will never have to work for food so long as they have such trees.
 Naturally, other than a inflated price for their production, we shall sell them to the populace. As well, these trees solve our own food issues, meaning we will never run short. And the people who partake of such trees will find themselves not having to really work as much to secure living, as the price of daily living for the common folk will drop. However, for those who eat it, Sins shall take root in their hearts and darken them.

These apples are a poisoned fruit which will bring out the worst in those who eat them, planting the seeds of discord and evil. And eating them nourishes that evil and strangles good in the heart. After enough, good shall die and evil shall flourish. Naturally, this is extremely useful for our own forces who eat them, and casters will find themselves nurtured by these fruits as evils & sins grow in them, furthering their path into Evil.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2020, 10:25:15 am by TricMagic »
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #482 on: May 08, 2020, 02:07:08 am »

Seed of Eden
An alchemicly(& Evil) mutated seed that grows apple trees. The trees mature over the course of a month, before endlessly budding apples over the course of each day which only regrow once plucked. Their taste is divine to the tongue, and fills the body. A bushel of apples is enough for a family to live off of for that day. One will never have to work for food so long as they have such trees.
 Naturally, other than a slightly inflated price for their production, we shall sell them to the populace. As well, these trees solve our own food issues, meaning we will never run short. And the people who partake of such trees will find themselves not having to really work all that much, as the price of daily living for the common folk will drop. With free time, arts, crafts, revolutions, revolts, and Sloth shall take root in peoples hearts.

Which of these occur is entirely up to them. But free time begets devilish hands.
A note about the apples produced. They don't actually have seeds in them, so you can pretty much eat the whole apple. This also means that they can be produced from the fruits themselves. The trees wood and apples themselves are a dark cherry red all the way through, and the orbish Seed of Eden black as rich soil.
For reference, this design is invalid. It is too benevolent- as a Demon, you cannot engage in such selfless generosity. And no, the (silly) argument that it would make people lazier wouldn’t be enough even if it was true.
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #483 on: May 08, 2020, 07:38:07 am »

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However, for those who eat it, Sins shall take root in their hearts and darken them.

Which of these occur is entirely up to them. But free time begets devilish hands. And these apples are a poisoned fruit which will bring out the worst in those who eat them, planting the seeds of discord and evil.

Would this edit make it valid?
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #484 on: May 08, 2020, 07:46:15 am »

It'd still be dubious, and I would still encourage you to lean in a more evil direction, but it would barely be valid, yes.
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #485 on: May 08, 2020, 08:27:52 am »

Quote from: Magocbox
The Redband Pirates Syndicate: ()
Frag: (1) MoP
Blood-drinker Blades: (3) Kashyyk, MoP, TricMagic
Criminal Syndicates: (1) Kashyyk
Arianna Twist Queen (1) Flazeo255
Magoc Faith (1) Flazeo255
Seed of Eden: (1) TricMagic

The Seeds of Eden planted and spread. A poisoned fruit that promises Salvation, but begets the Fall into Evil. Like the Snake that once promised the World and Doomed all.

Food is always a concern, but these apples taste divine and help turn the populace against good and to evil. A seemingly infinite supply of food with a dangerous result.
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #486 on: May 08, 2020, 08:49:46 am »

I doubt any of that is accurate when the gm literally just said it was dubiously evil at best and barely valid.
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #487 on: May 08, 2020, 09:03:47 am »

I did make further edits you know? I'l ask again then. Do the edits I made help it? Strangle Good, Nurture Evil, and all that.
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #488 on: May 08, 2020, 09:24:24 am »

Yes I was already referring to the vapid heavy handed writing you tacked on. Believe it or not some of us actually look through posts to try to get their arguments straight.
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #489 on: May 08, 2020, 06:48:21 pm »


Quote from: Magocbox
The Redband Pirates Syndicate: ()
Frag: (1) MoP
Blood-drinker Blades: (3) Kashyyk, MoP, TricMagic
Criminal Syndicates: (1) Kashyyk
Arianna Twist Queen (2) Flazeo255, Detoxicated
Magoc Faith (1) Flazeo255
Seed of Eden: (1) TricMagic
Demonic Wings: (1): Detoxicated
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #490 on: May 08, 2020, 11:55:47 pm »

Quote from: Magocbox
The Redband Pirates Syndicate: ()
Frag: (1) MoP
Blood-drinker Blades: (4) Kashyyk, MoP, TricMagic, Happerry
Criminal Syndicates: (2) Kashyyk, Happerry
Arianna Twist Queen (2) Flazeo255, Detoxicated
Magoc Faith (1) Flazeo255
Seed of Eden: (1) TricMagic
Demonic Wings: (1): Detoxicated
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #491 on: May 09, 2020, 07:53:13 am »

Quote from: Magocbox
The Redband Pirates Syndicate: ()
Frag: (1) MoP
Blood-drinker Blades: (4) Kashyyk, MoP, TricMagic, Happerry
Criminal Syndicates: (2) Kashyyk, Happerry
Arianna Twist Queen (3) Flazeo255, Detoxicated, TricMagic
Magoc Faith (1) Flazeo255
Seed of Eden: ()
Demonic Wings: (1): Detoxicated
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #492 on: May 09, 2020, 10:51:00 am »

Right, I don’t think Arianna is going to solve the issues we have currently. A single champion can only ever work in one lane at a time, and we are not in a position to do something that will only ever affect one location per turn. Yes, the angels have a hero, but they got it on an unexpected boon and didn’t risk a whole action trying to make it. If anything else rolls poorly at least it will have a minor effect across the board, whereas arianna could give us a minor effect in just one place. On the other side, a good roll on anything else will have a large impact across the board, whereas she’ll, again, only affect one location. I also believe that she’ll be harder than anything else we’ve proposed, increasing the chance for failure unless we make her a high effort, which will completely screw us re: fixing our situation (since no matter what it only affects one sector)

Even if we all disagree about what the best move is for the cult, we all can agree that our grasp on the influence lanes and our hold on the combat lanes is tenuous at best. We need to improve things across the board and pray for some good rolls (or at least that we roll better than the angels) until we have a little more breathing room. Then I think we can dedicate an action to creating a champion.

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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #493 on: May 09, 2020, 11:45:23 am »

Demonic Wings is the way to go guys
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Re: Demon Team - Chiaroscuro Arms Race: Design Phase 7
« Reply #494 on: May 09, 2020, 11:52:00 am »

Magic. Magic~ Something to just break through their defenses and turn them to disarray in one fel swoop. A magic that isn't mental, but physical.

At the moment though, it's blood-drinker blades. I'll note I predicted we'd not make any progress in the combat lanes. We did better than expected, but... Simply being able to gain advantage, but not being able to rout them. That is not the sign of a healthy army. Of course we would lose as soon as they managed to stop our charge, they have healing to keep their army healthy. Which is the point of the blood-drinking blades, to keep our front line healthy..

A hero design isn't a bad thing, especially if they come with Rare lesser versions. I say go for it, take a chance. Even a weak hero can turn the tide, and if it rolls well... Well, Magoc won't absolutely need to go to the INF Lane, and can help out in combat lanes.



Detox, flight isn't likely to end well, since arrows can strike them, and the wyverns are freaking fast. That and it is nearing winter anyway, maybe the river will freeze over? The Blood-drinker blade enchantment, meanwhile, gives us healing over time.
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