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Author Topic: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Game Over!  (Read 34898 times)

Egan_BW

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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #135 on: July 10, 2022, 11:23:15 pm »


No.  Egan_BW could easily be scum and making mistakes.  And you could be chainsawing for him. 

Assuming that I'm making mistakes, which I clearly am, does this indicate my alignment?
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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #136 on: July 10, 2022, 11:23:31 pm »

By the way: there's probably one scum among Fallacy, Shakerag, Egan.
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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #137 on: July 10, 2022, 11:24:42 pm »


STOP POSTING WHILE I'M TRYING TO POST
I refuse.
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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #138 on: July 10, 2022, 11:25:42 pm »

]I don't like this question either. Assuming it can self-target, immediately, on myself.

To be fair, that's a stupid decision.  If you openly confirm yourself as town you just painted a huge target on your ass to get NK'd.  And if you didn't die during the night then town needs to worry about if there is a doctor or if you're a godfather.

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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #139 on: July 10, 2022, 11:27:40 pm »

Personally I'd hold that kind of ability until D3 or something.

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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #140 on: July 10, 2022, 11:29:09 pm »

By the way: there's probably one scum among Fallacy, Shakerag, Egan.
I agree. It's Shakerag. 80%.

To be fair, that's a stupid decision.  If you openly confirm yourself as town you just painted a huge target on your ass to get NK'd.  And if you didn't die during the night then town needs to worry about if there is a doctor or if you're a godfather.
Is there any reason the scum wouldn't immediately nightkill a confirmed town player? Assume there's no cult and they're not about to self-destruct.


STOP POSTING WHILE I'M TRYING TO POST
I refuse.
Lol sorry. It's the opening hours of Day 1, of course we're active as heckaroni.

To be fair, prompting conversation on D1 is priority.  The worst thing you can do on D1 is do nothing.
Absolutely true. But this is true for all alignments.

Sorry Fallacy, thought you were Egan.  That's what I get for posting shitfaced.
It's an understandable mistake. I thought TricMagic was EuchreJack.
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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #141 on: July 10, 2022, 11:32:34 pm »

Is there any reason the scum wouldn't immediately nightkill a confirmed town player? Assume there's no cult and they're not about to self-destruct.

That's just WIFOM.  Most of the time I would think it would be in scum's best interest to kill a confirmed town, unless they want to pull some kind of gambit (say if that player wasn't otherwise trusted).

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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #142 on: July 10, 2022, 11:34:29 pm »

Is there any reason the scum wouldn't immediately nightkill a confirmed town player? Assume there's no cult and they're not about to self-destruct.

That's just WIFOM.  Most of the time I would think it would be in scum's best interest to kill a confirmed town, unless they want to pull some kind of gambit (say if that player wasn't otherwise trusted).

To add on to that, I'd be suspicious if one or two people suddenly ganged up on said "confirmed town" in such a scenario.

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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #143 on: July 10, 2022, 11:36:26 pm »

Is there any reason the scum wouldn't immediately nightkill a confirmed town player? Assume there's no cult and they're not about to self-destruct.

That's just WIFOM.  Most of the time I would think it would be in scum's best interest to kill a confirmed town, unless they want to pull some kind of gambit (say if that player wasn't otherwise trusted).

To add on to that, I'd be suspicious if one or two people suddenly ganged up on said "confirmed town" in such a scenario.

Adding on to -that-, it would ultimately depend on how many players are left and what roleclaims they have as well.  There really aren't hard and fast rules in mafia; there is so so so much that is situational.

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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #144 on: July 10, 2022, 11:41:20 pm »

Adding on to -that-, it would ultimately depend on how many players are left and what roleclaims they have as well.  There really aren't hard and fast rules in mafia; there is so so so much that is situational.
If you ask me, the mafia, even if they manage to play aggressively, are all about looking for opportunities - times to strike and players to pounce on. Attacking vulnerabilities. Ambush predators. Town players try to focus more on narrowing things down.
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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #145 on: July 10, 2022, 11:46:43 pm »

Adding on to -that-, it would ultimately depend on how many players are left and what roleclaims they have as well.  There really aren't hard and fast rules in mafia; there is so so so much that is situational.
If you ask me, the mafia, even if they manage to play aggressively, are all about looking for opportunities - times to strike and players to pounce on. Attacking vulnerabilities. Ambush predators. Town players try to focus more on narrowing things down.

Honestly, not a bad assessment.  But then the best scum players will make sure that they do not appear to be looking for opportunities as well.  And novice town thinking that they are scumhunting could be pegged as town.  It can be hard to discern which is which. 

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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #146 on: July 10, 2022, 11:50:19 pm »

Shakerag - In my experience, you are more excited the more disruptive your role is. You appear to be very excited. How disruptive do you plan on being this game?
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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #147 on: July 10, 2022, 11:51:34 pm »

Honestly, not a bad assessment.  But then the best scum players will make sure that they do not appear to be looking for opportunities as well.  And novice town thinking that they are scumhunting could be pegged as town.  It can be hard to discern which is which.
At the very least new players are typically easier to read. Hence my 'examine Jack/Tric' strategy.

Of course the scum want to appear town. That's their job, their goal. Newer scum players will act uncertain, or chaotic. Moderately experienced scum players will be opportunistic. The best... The most experienced scum players will be inscrutable. More or less.
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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #148 on: July 11, 2022, 12:04:44 am »

Web - It seems like LurkerTracker died while I was away. Is there a replacement ISO tool to help compile each player's posts individually for analysis?
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Re: Beginner Mafia 2: BYOR Edition - Day 1: Bwuk Bwuk Little Chickens
« Reply #149 on: July 11, 2022, 12:38:57 am »

By the way: there's probably one scum among Fallacy, Shakerag, Egan.
Max - I really dislike this post. It looks to me like setup to attempt to say X was town, so Y should be scum, later on down the line. And in the short term you're basically just egging them on to infight, without getting yourself bogged down by taking an actual position on who is scum. I really just do not see how, be you right or wrong, you are helping anyone but the mafia here. I'm only using FoS because Tric (who my vote is currently on) has yet to post since game start, the moment that Tric shows up, you can expect to see your name in red over this post if something doesn't change. Justify yourself please.
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