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Rockeater

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Re: "Cold War" Arms Race // CORE THREAD // Turn 2 Public Record
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2023, 05:25:58 am »

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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2023, 02:11:07 pm »

More treaty. Maybe. Again, looking for feedback.



The Warcrime Committee
While eliminating war entirely may not yet be feasible, the horrors of the World War must never be repeated. Certain means of waging war are considered to be fundamentally unjustifiable, and are thus labeled as warcrimes. It is the business of the Warcrime Committee to investigate allegations of warcrimes, and refer those responsible to the Justice Committee for punishment.

The following categories of warcrimes are defined:



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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2023, 11:40:09 am »

I wrote some stuff about our capital. This is basically just fluff, but it's the sort of thing that brings the world to life, innit.
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Quarque

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Re: "Cold War" Arms Race // CORE THREAD // Turn 2 Public Record
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2023, 03:03:02 am »

ok I'm going to be honest, I suck at writing legally sound free trade agreements so I had chatGPT generate one and modified it a little bit where needed. If anyone likes this or has suggestions for improvement, shoot.

Fun fact, when I asked ChatGPT to include the Perpetual Conference, it threw an error.  :P

edit: spoilering this to waste less space

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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2023, 03:09:00 pm »

Context:
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[Man of Paper] — 02/20/2023 4:09 PM
Since both sides have used “civilian” development to skirt tension and the like, I’m considering adding another credit you can get semiregularly to let you try to revise a civilian thing the other team has.

I could just go “civilian” designs still impact world tension the same so we stray away from the “but this is tooootally not meant for anything but peaceful applications, wink wink” on every design, but that’s not as fun as making you think about the potential consequences of your actions

[NUKE9.13] — 02/20/2023 4:22 PM
That seems reasonable, and would indeed be an interesting trade-off to consider.

Kashyyk — 02/20/2023 5:10 PM
I would enjoy that

[Man of Paper] — 02/20/2023 5:15 PM
Maybe we could put that perpetual conference to use and give it some lore justification
Thus, a trade treaty. Lore justification for sides being able to access 'civilian' tech from the other every few turns. The GPT-generated treaty Quarque posted above is basically full-on free trade, which is not fitting from a lore or mechanical perspective. It's also a bit harder to read than it needs to be, I think.
I've written a rough-draft, outlining the basic points such a treaty would need to cover. I was going to pretty it up a bit... but I can't be bothered, and really adding more words will just make it less likely that people will read the thing. So just pretend that the thing below is nicely written out.
If anyone has any feedback on the substance of the treaty, let me know. Otherwise, it should be put up for vote in the strategy phase.
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Quarque

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Re: "Cold War" Arms Race // CORE THREAD // Turn 2 Public Record
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2023, 03:09:10 am »

Let's vote for the perpetual conference.

The freeish trade agreement is good because limiting it to once every 4 turns would prevent a fun new mechanic from becoming overly intrusive.

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The warcrimes committee:
  yay (1): Quarque
  nay (0):
The Harren Freeish Trade Agreement:
  yay (1): Quarque
  nay (0):
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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2023, 06:15:35 am »

Note that Perpetual Conference votes should be divided into SFS and UNSA blocks, since active player counts may differ, yet the rules of the Perpetual Conference give UNSA and SFS equal voting power. If UNSA and SFS vote differently, non-aligned nations (that is, the GM) get the final say.
Also, while the basic tents of the HFTT are GM-imposed, there is room to discuss the details. Feel free to copy the text of my version if you want to propose a minor amendment.

Quote from: perpetual votebox
The Warcrimes Committee:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (1): Quarque
    nay (0):
  SFS: yay
    yay: (1) NUKE9.13
    nay: ()

The Harren Freeish Trade Treaty:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (1): Quarque
    nay (0):
  SFS: yay
    yay: (1) NUKE9.13
    nay: ()
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2023, 11:58:18 am »

Endicar has already compromised its sovereignty under the UNSA.  We do not need to bow our heads to the Reds.

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The Warcrimes Committee:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (1): Quarque
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: yay
    yay: (1) NUKE9.13
    nay: ()

The Harren Freeish Trade Treaty:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (1): Quarque
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: yay
    yay: (1) NUKE9.13
    nay: ()

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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2023, 06:47:08 pm »

Comrade, did we not commit to the revolution to eradicate this capitalist disease?

Quote from: perpetual votebox
The Warcrimes Committee:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (1): Quarque
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: yay
    yay: (2) NUKE9.13, Taricus
    nay: ()

The Harren Freeish Trade Treaty:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (1): Quarque
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: yay
    yay: (1) NUKE9.13
    nay: (1) Taricus
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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2023, 03:01:47 am »

As mentioned in the discord, here is an alternative Civilian Trade proposal.

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Harren Limited Trade Agreement

Any items produced by a team can be tagged as [Civilian], reducing their impact on World Tension, and guaranteeing their ownership by a subset of the population of their half of Harren City (affected by Rarity, but obviously not everyone wants a Lance Projector, even if it is *Cheap*).

Any [Civilian] items may also be tagged as [Export], with an extra reduction in World Tension affect, and making them readily available and thus owned by a subset of the population on the other side of the Harren border.

Rescinding the [Export] or [Civilian] tags is a clear act of distrust, and not only removes the reduction in World Tension but also adds to it.

To facilitate the Import/Export of these items, any interested Commercial Entities may apply for approval to transfer across the SFS/UNSA border. The entity and its assets/shipments will be subject to a neutrality inspection by representatives of UNSA/SFS at the time of application, and any time thereafter.

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The Warcrimes Committee:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (2): Quarque, Kashyyk
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: yay
    yay: (2) NUKE9.13, Taricus
    nay: ()

The Harren Freeish Trade Treaty:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (1): Quarque
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: yay
    yay: (1) NUKE9.13
    nay: (1) Taricus

Harren Limited Trade Agreement:
  UNSA: yay
    yay: (1) Kashyyk
    nay: ()
  SFS: yay
    yay: ()
    nay: ()
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2023, 04:55:58 am »

Quote from: perpetual votebox
The Warcrimes Committee:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (2): Quarque, Kashyyk
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: yay
    yay: (2) NUKE9.13, Taricus
    nay: ()

The Harren Freeish Trade Treaty:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (0):
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: yay
    yay: (1) NUKE9.13
    nay: (1) Taricus

Harren Limited Trade Agreement:
  UNSA: yay
    yay: (2) Kashyyk, Quarque
    nay: ()
  SFS: yay
    yay: ()
    nay: ()
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« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2023, 07:08:59 am »

Sure.
Quote from: perpetual votebox
The Warcrimes Committee:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (2): Quarque, Kashyyk
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: yay
    yay: (2) NUKE9.13, Taricus
    nay: ()

The Harren Freeish Trade Treaty:
  UNSA: nay
    yay (0):
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: nay
    yay:
    nay: (2) Taricus, NUKE9.13

Harren Limited Trade Agreement:
  UNSA: yay
    yay: (2) Kashyyk, Quarque
    nay: ()
  SFS: yay
    yay: (1) NUKE9.13
    nay: ()
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2023, 07:10:11 am »

Sure.
Quote from: perpetual votebox
The Warcrimes Committee:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (2): Quarque, Kashyyk
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: yay
    yay: (2) NUKE9.13, Taricus
    nay: ()

The Harren Freeish Trade Treaty:
  UNSA: nay
    yay (0):
    nay (0):
  SFS: nay
    yay:
    nay: (2) Taricus, NUKE9.13

Harren Limited Trade Agreement:
  UNSA: yay
    yay: (3) Kashyyk, Quarque, ConscriptFive
    nay: ()
  SFS: yay
    yay: (1) NUKE9.13
    nay: ()

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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2023, 09:19:21 am »


Quote from: perpetual votebox
The Warcrimes Committee:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (2): Quarque, Kashyyk
    nay (1): ConscriptFive
  SFS: yay
    yay: (2) NUKE9.13, Taricus
    nay: ()

The Harren Freeish Trade Treaty:
  UNSA: nay
    yay (0):
    nay (0):
  SFS: nay
    yay:
    nay: (2) Taricus, NUKE9.13

Harren Limited Trade Agreement:
  UNSA: yay
    yay: (3) Kashyyk, Quarque, ConscriptFive
    nay: ()
  SFS: yay
    yay: (1) NUKE9.13
    nay: (1) Taricus
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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2023, 12:52:17 pm »

I like committing atrocities
Quote from: perpetual votebox
The Warcrimes Committee:
  UNSA: yay
    yay (2): Quarque, Kashyyk
    nay (2): ConscriptFive, m1895
  SFS: yay
    yay: (2) NUKE9.13, Taricus
    nay: ()

The Harren Freeish Trade Treaty:
  UNSA: nay
    yay (0):
    nay (0):
  SFS: nay
    yay:
    nay: (2) Taricus, NUKE9.13

Harren Limited Trade Agreement:
  UNSA: yay
    yay: (4) Kashyyk, Quarque, ConscriptFive, m1895
    nay: ()
  SFS: yay
    yay: (1) NUKE9.13
    nay: (1) Taricus
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