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Re: Elona
« Reply #1515 on: November 09, 2011, 12:40:35 pm »

That dagger is all kinds of awesome... if it weren't made out of ether. Seriously, it's not worth it (unless you're playing artifact collection), and using it will just bring you down sooner or later.

Should you be able to acquire said dagger, equip it on your toughest melee-oriented damage dealing pet, provided it has hands.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #1516 on: November 09, 2011, 12:45:38 pm »

So what if I were to use a change material kit on it?

The wiki says "Additionally, using a material kit/scroll on any item marked as 'precious' (non-randomly generated artifacts such as the Ring of Steel Dragon or Ragnarok), regardless of whether it is miracle/godly, will not change the material, but instead will reroll the item completely. This usually has little result, but might change one or two of the modifiers on the item assigned randomly."

Does that mean it might change the material and not too many modifiers?
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« Reply #1517 on: November 09, 2011, 12:52:37 pm »

IIRC yes, but also IIRC you'll want to save mat kits for godly items, as the kits are very rare.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #1518 on: November 09, 2011, 12:55:37 pm »

So what if I were to use a change material kit on it?

The wiki says "Additionally, using a material kit/scroll on any item marked as 'precious' (non-randomly generated artifacts such as the Ring of Steel Dragon or Ragnarok), regardless of whether it is miracle/godly, will not change the material, but instead will reroll the item completely. This usually has little result, but might change one or two of the modifiers on the item assigned randomly."

Does that mean it might change the material and not too many modifiers?

No, you can't change the material on special items.

The ether disease from ether items isn't actually all that bad. I always wear a vindale cloak, and I only equip the ether dagger before going into tough fights.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #1519 on: November 09, 2011, 01:00:26 pm »

Material kits can't change the material of a unique artifact. And while ether disease might not be as dangerous as I've put it, finding potions for it is HARD.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #1520 on: November 09, 2011, 02:16:47 pm »

Wow, I just got one of those traveling merchants and I bought a pistol off of him that has "It brings an end".  I looked it up on the wiki and it summons dragons and stuff.  That seems really cheaty!
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« Reply #1521 on: November 09, 2011, 02:20:07 pm »

Wow, I just got one of those traveling merchants and I bought a pistol off of him that has "It brings an end".  I looked it up on the wiki and it summons dragons and stuff.  That seems really cheaty!
Replace cheaty with FUN.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #1522 on: November 09, 2011, 02:21:44 pm »

Wow, I just got one of those traveling merchants and I bought a pistol off of him that has "It brings an end".  I looked it up on the wiki and it summons dragons and stuff.  That seems really cheaty!
Except that those things it summons are hostile to you. Oh, and, Netherwind. We can't forget that.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #1523 on: November 09, 2011, 02:54:25 pm »

Shoot I need some reading comprehension classes.  I didn't notice that the wiki was was implying the summons would be hostile.  Well I was trying it out on farmers in Vernis and a white dragon killed me..  Thank goodness for savescumming.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #1524 on: November 09, 2011, 02:56:44 pm »

Goddamn <King> in the middle of goddamn Derphy blocking the exit when I'm burdened and tired. Took me five savescums to get it.  :-X
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« Reply #1525 on: November 09, 2011, 08:17:24 pm »

Thanks for the detailed answer Blaze.  So New Guy, does that mean the bow and the dagger are gone forever?

Not really, but you lost your chance of getting it at an earlier point in time. Artifacts in Elona keep getting generated, regardless if there's two of the same artifact in the game. Acquiring the same artifact while you have the other copy in your inventory will transmute the artifact into a generic one. In essence, if you have the ability to kill high-level monsters, you can farm Lomias for his bow, and all his subsequent bows that will transmute if you have a copy of the original in your inventory.

Problem is, where can you find the unique weapon wielders if they disappear? Lomias appears in parties, so that's no problem, but Larnierre doesn't appear anywhere, IIRC, aside from the Void, where all bosses can appear, and are tough as nuts.

I've seen Larnierre in party quest before - that's how I got Ether Dagger. She's just super super rare.
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Re: Elona
« Reply #1526 on: November 12, 2011, 05:43:31 am »

What wish would you recommend for me?

I've got one pair of Seven League Boots from one early wish, then another as random loot. Now I've got one wand of wishing on me and one in my house, and besides an altar I have no idea what else to wish for next.

Take a look at my save (1.16 Xmas version)... feel free to read a scroll of return and check my stashed items in my house and shop strongbox.
http://www.box.net/s/5937z6te19sknana3s9f
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Re: Elona
« Reply #1527 on: November 12, 2011, 05:52:35 am »

An aurora ring? A speed ring? Then get that Miral and Garok hammer thing and make an artifact out of that?
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Re: Elona
« Reply #1528 on: November 12, 2011, 05:54:23 am »

What about potions of Evolution to max out your mutations? Unless, of course, you've got a whole bunch of positive mutations already.
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Unknown to most but the insane and the mystics, Tarran is actually Earth itself, as Earth is sentient like that planet in Avatar. Originally Earth used names such as Terra on the internet, but to protect it's identity it changed letters, now becoming the Tarran you know today.
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Tarran has the "Tarran Bug", a bug which causes the affected character to repeatedly hit teammates while dual-wielding instead of whatever the hell he is shooting at.

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« Reply #1529 on: November 12, 2011, 07:30:17 am »

Yes, unless you have already save scummed fountains to get a lot of positive mutations, the potions of evolutions are really great.
I got 2 of them from 2 wishes and they helped my charisma a lot with mutations giving bonus to it, allowing me to get more minions from the slave markets.
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