#108 - NQT and Agentt go back and forth with NQT helping out the newbie Agentt (and Krr1ss as well). NQT mentions the setup would normally be 3 mafia + 1-2 third party in post #97.
#110 - More casual Agentt and NQT banter
Not sure, this could just be NQT innocently helping out Agentt
#118 - Agentt and NQT banter goes on
Agentt spraying out their feelings here was definitely making me townread them, although I had already felt that way earlier in post
#92.
#125 - Agentt gives early D1 reads, puts Cat and Magma as town, calls Kriss, Tric and NQT scummy, especially NQT for "rolefishing"
I think this makes Magma look slightly worse and NQT look slightly better because all of these players besides Magma and NQT we know were town, I don't think Agentt dunks on their teammate NQT here
#131 - Crystal shares their feelings about some players, claims that "ability cops are useless when investigating me" which is funny because they had a godfather type ability
Crystal talks about how can anybody read Tric so well and that they were impressed that Imp knew Verm was town last game, the same thing Imp has been doing in this game. I haven't read that game, but I believe Imp was town there? I think this makes Imp look better
#136 - Crystal and Agentt talk about "wow a lot of people have anti-investigation abilities huh?"
This is casual banter between two mafia players trying to appear innocent.
#139 - Crystal calls out Agentt and asks "wait a minute I don't see NQT role-fishing, can you point out how NQT is rolefishing?" then goes on to vote Sal while saying Toastercult and Cat feel town
Mafia!Crystal is asking Mafia!Agentt to explain their read on NQT, Agentt's response is...he doesn't really explain why NQT is rolefishing. Maybe we'll come back to that. Agentt gave an unnatural vote here because they're mafia.
Update: I'm at post #246 and Agentt has come back and has not addressed Crystal's comment calling them out. They've just continued going about their business and ignored the pressure from Crystal about NQT.
Update2: Agentt addresses their NQT accusation in post #340 by apologizing to NQT because they couldn't point to any post where NQT was rolefishing. This is very unnatural from Agentt (because they're mafia), but I don't know what is says about NQT.
#145 - Verm drops in to muse about a super investigation role given all the talk about anti-investigation powers
#147 - Crystal mentions that "regular alignment cops work on me"
Crystal probably realized here that they do actually want cops to inspect them after mentioning how ability cops are useless on them earlier in post #131. This is because Crystal inspects as town-ally and not mafia. Thankfully (I guess?) Toastercult took my bait and inspected me on N1 instead of Crystal.
#151 - NQT responds to Agentt's rolefishing accusation in post #125 before Agentt has a response to Crystal, NQT questions Agentt and says they aren't rolefishing and doesn't think fishing is a good idea
This feels like town NQT to me, they didn't ignore Agentt and also didn't even wait for Agentt to come back. I feel like if NQT was mafia they may have not bothered.
#152 - Also more Crystal and Agentt casual banter, there's a lot between them
#166 - Crystal asks if everyone should claim their hats and Magma shoots them down
#169 - Crystal says they think Tric is town after just earlier saying they don't know how people are able to read Tric in post #131. Magma picks up on this at some point and uses it against Crystal later in the game which I think makes Magma look pretty good.
#186 - Imp arrives to the game and tell Sal how much they love the roleplaying, a lot of "Feels good" energy from Imp
#196 - Magma simply votes Cat and Crystal responds with "Why?", also says how Sal might not be a good vote because we won't be able to find their remaining members due to Sal's lurking
It's already been established that Crystal's attack of Sal on D1 was wrong and scummy, but in this case Magma voting Cat here I don't have a problem with. Crystal questioning it feels natural. In other words, Magma slightly more town here.
#200 - Crystal defends Cat from Magma, saying how Cat's 3 posts are not that bad and questions Magma why they read them as scum
This feels pretty natural to me, I don't think Magma is mafia with Crystal here based on this interaction.
#202 - Imp fully arives to start Wall-of-Text posting, they excitedly talk to Cat, Verm, and Agentt.
This all feels very sweet and innocent to me personally
#204 - Verm tells Imp that unfortunately they don't think they can be saved from The Devil chasing them
This pretty heavily implies that Verm is going to die at some point, it must be soon by now right? I still find it hard to believe Verm would be mafia here with a role that kills them, if they're telling the truth about that.
#205 - Imp tells Verm they can try to help them by changing their role
Nice guy Imp
#207 - Verm claims more of their role pretty openly here, one ability kills them at the end of the next day, and other costs them a sixth of their soul
So by this logic Verm would die if they used their second ability six times, although Imp has changed Verm's role at least once since this game started so I'm not sure how it would work now. Either way Verm feels pretty honest and town to me here.
#209 - Crystal asks Imp for their reads, Imp says it's too early and they'll have reads eventually, although they are confident that Verm is town, almost 100% confident
To me this confidence is a bit odd to be so sure Verm is town, I know I do something similar but it does feel weird seeing Imp do it.
#211 - Verm dies and comes back, claims it's their Downwards Escalator status effect that will eventually kill them and can't be removed. Crystal asks how many times Verm can die. Imp clarifies that their ability is called "Downwards Escalator" so they can try changing it since "dead Verms do not delight" Imp.
Feels like town Verm to me here. Crystal asking Verm about their role feels natural (not forced like Crystal already knows). Imp wanting to help out Verm from dying feels very nice guy.
#219 - Verm clarifying more of the role
Verm feels pretty open to me here, it's hard for me to see them as mafia from posts like this.
It seems like since Verm was killed by Car Accident on D1 they've been able to do more stuff now. Presumably that's when they made a deal with a devil: after being killed in an accident on D1. There's a good chance Verm dies on their own in the future when the devil comes to collect. I'm not sure Imp would be able to change Verm's fate that much to avoid getting Final Destination'd.
Heh, Final Destination sounds like Verm's role especially the second movie...wait a second Downward Escalator? There's an Escalator kill in one of the movies too. I bet you that's Verm's role something to do with Final Destination.
Wait Tric mentions "ugh not that movie" in post
#216 which Verm counters by saying their role is from a song, not a movie. Well whatever, clearly I wasn't paying attention to the game here. If it's from a song it's a song that's just like the FD movies.
#222 - Imp keeps telling Verm they want to help them and change their role, "I'm more motivated to fix problems than just...whatever."
#224 - Imp explains to Crystal about why they shouldn't get paranoid about stuff that can't happen in the game like in past FOU games
You failed in not getting paranoid about SK stuff Imp.
Blah blah Verm and Imp negotiate changing stuff in Verm's role.
#227 - Crystal presses Magma with a vote, "Answer me about Cat."
Crystal votes Magma because they think Magma's vote on Cat is bad. We know it's wrong because Cat is town, so maybe Crystal sees an opportunity to press Magma here because they know Cat isn't mafia? I think this makes Magma look good.
#238 - Verm mentions to me that they're on a ticking timer that they can accelerate to use power abilities, and adds "but I don't get affected by normal kills nearly as much."
Hmmmm. Did mafia try to kill Verm on one of these days?
@Verm, do you have a form of kill protection? Do you think mafia tried to kill you the last two days?
#243 - Magma thinks Crystal feels like mafia. Magma asks Imp why they think Magma finds Crystal suspicious.
Magma is correct about Crystal. I think Magma's progression on Crystal here is natural.
#249 - Jim with their first big post, responds to a bunch of people, is questioning some of Crystal's logic and seems already fed up with Imp
Still feels like town Jim to me
#251 - Magma defends their vote on Cat from Crystal, they also tell Agentt that if they were mafia they'd just tell their partners to post a lot and vote town
Feels natural to me, town points for Magma
#254 - I think Imp is defending Crystal from Magma here? But then they say, "What I notice about CrystalizedMire is my own stuff. She's actively playing and engaged, exploring and hunting. That's more typical from an anti-town Crystal than when pro-town." which sounds like Imp is reading Crystal as anti-town.
I'll be honest a lot of these D1 Imp posts I'm reading for the first time.
#256 - Agentt has been back, not to defend their vote on NQT from Crystal, but instead to banter with Magma and talk with Imp. Agentt says they suspect Imp is trying to pocket them because Imp isn't "being scary yet", whatever that means.
#259 - Agentt likes Magma's carefree attitude, "I can't help but be pocketed by people hah..." Agentt also asks some question about scum players pretending to fight with each other to show they aren't paired, which NQT quickly jumps into to respond to by saying it depends, "but often they just remain noncommittal towards each other". Agentt jokes in response to NQT.
Not sure. I almost want to say Agentt mentions this because he sees Magma and Crystal fighting, but it could just be a clever way to make Magma seem suspect. I'm going to say NAI. Agentt's examples are also Magma-Toastercultist and Kriss-Cat as the pairs, no Crystal in there.
#267 - Crystal continues to defend Cat from Magma, they even mention how they acted defensively against Agentt, their own mafia partner!
#268 - Krr1ss makes the very inaccurate remark:
Agentt, Kitten, Crystal are probably not all scum. I refuse to believe that they would all powerwolf so openly.
Well I guess one was town! We see this for a lot of the game though, Krr1ss has not had the best reads.
#272 - Jim continues dissing Crystal, not happy with Crystal's reasons for voting Sal.
Jim is similar to Magma in how they have been putting Crystal down.
#274 - Imp does a big ass response to Agentt in spoiler tags
This feels pointless to me if Imp is mafia with Agentt, why bother giving some indepth response - hidden in spoiler tags no less - if you're just responding to your mafia partner? I think this makes Imp look good.
#289 - Tric's D1 reads, I like reading these because they can actually be really accurate if you flip them upside down. By that logic Imp and Jim look worse while Magma and NQT look better.
#296 - Even Imp questions Crystal whether voting Sal is a good idea and wants their thoughts.
#300 - Imp pushes for Toastercult here with a pressure vote
#302 - Crystal's D1 reads, has Imp and Verm at the top of the list, NQT is slightly town, Magma is slightly mafia, forgets to include Jim and Toastercult which Imp questions about
This makes me feel like Imp or Verm is third mafia but I don't know if Crystal would put them at top like that, not sure...
In addition, Imp banters with Crystal here which seems natural to me
#307 - Verm's D1 reads, isn't comfortable with huge large the player pool is, thinks Imp being kind to them is NAI, doesn't like Jim's posts, "NQT is here I guess", Agentt is null, isn't sure about Crystal.
Verm has pretty neutal opinions of players, very few town leans besides like Tric and Magma.
#315 - NQT comes in with their own opinions, thinks Crystal's activity is a promising sign for her alignment, and shits on Sal while agreeing with Crystal that my defense of Sal is questionable.
Not a good look for NQT, but he could just be mistaken. NQT does unvote Sal later after I rebuttal NQT off of Sal.
#321 - Jim thinks the Cat wagon is a mislynch, Jim argues with Imp and Crystal about people they're voting/attacking, also "broadly agrees" with my reads.
Looks good for Jim here, especially if Imp is mafia.
#325 - Jim's D1 reads, has Agentt very high, NQT and Magma kind of in the middle, and Imp and Verm are very low. Jim also goes into pretty good detail about each player.
If Jim is town this is a pretty bad look for Imp and Verm. I think it's actually worse for Imp because Jim is tying Imp with Crystal here:
I have misgivings about Imp and CrystalizedMire since it does not feel like I am playing the same game as them. CrystalizedMire's reads list is almost the inverse of mine, but CrystalizedMire puts VermillionSkies as the second highest town read but also completely defers the read to Imp, which feels really fishy to me. Imp also went after toastercultist who I think is an easy town read so that concerns me. VermillionSkies' reads list did not feel genuine to me when I read it the first time.
Jim's fishy senses could be correct here.
#327 - Imp defends their town read of Verm from Jim
#330 - Jack's D1 reads, has Verm and Crystal as the top, Jim and NQT a bit lower in townlean, Magma and Agentt null, Imp pretty low. Admits their own reads list sucks.
I think it's alright Jack, even I had Agentt really high which was wrong.
#332 - Jim isn't sure about Imp's read of Verm, Jim also likes Jack and Tric more after recent posts. Imp proceeds to wall-of-text post over and over. Imp also gives a partial reads list with Verm and Sal quite high, Jim slightly scummy, and Toastercult quite scummy. Doesn't include Magma, NQT, Crystal, Agentt...
#340 - Agentt comes back, isn't sure about Cat, townreads Jack and Magma, thinks Kriss and Crystal are "hella town". Agentt isn't sure who to vote. In the next post #341 Agentt actually addresses the "NQT is rolefishing" discussion by saying he apologizes to NQT because after looking through the posts he can't really point to any post where they were role-fishing.
This is probably a good sign for NQT? It does mean Agentt's vote on NQT was unnatural and didn't have a good reasoning behind it.
#344 - Krr1ss reads, has Verm and Imp high (like a lot of people, including me), has Magma and Agentt in their scum leans. Isn't sure about other relevant people.
#347 - Imp is confused why Agentt scumreads Imp
#360 - Crystal defends Imp from Jim, Crystal questions Agentt on whether Agentt should be townreading Crystal so highly, also defends Cat from Magma
I feel like Imp is town here if Crystal is doing the same thing they're doing with Cat here.
#362 - Crystal defiantly goes "Then vote me." at Jim. Crystal is annoyed that Jim isn't using their vote.
This feels like natural aggression to me, in other words it looks good for Jim.
#364 - Jim is mad at Imp for going after Toastercult for bad reasons. Tells Crystal that he's a wuss and lost confidence in his reads to vote someone.
#396 - Crystal shades Verm when talking to Krr1ss about Verm. In post #400 right after Crystal questions whether FoU would even for sure add scum to the Theater Chat? "FoU can be a bit of a troll when desiging games after all."
We know that Agentt was in the Theater Chat, the way Crystal talks makes it sound like it would just be the singular mafia player in the theater chat (after all, I specifically mentioned "one scum" in my quote), in other words it makes me like Verm more.
#409 - Verm post, again feels pretty solo to me
#419 - Imp going full paranoia about Sal while at the same time reading Sal as town
I don't even know what to say.
#426 - Crystal thinks Sal's reads are shit, thinks Krr1ss should be higher than Agentt, also thinks Imp should be lower than Toastercultist. Thinks Sal is just following Magma's logic.
This doesn't make me feel good about Imp I think since their treatment is similar to Agentt's. At the time I also pointed out how much I didn't like Crystal's post here in post #429.
#436 - NQT is happy with Sal and switches their votes to Toastercult and Verm instead. Is happy about Krr1ss being active when asked about them.
#469 - Krr1ss reads:
As of ISO:
Town Reads:
Crystal, Agentt
Strong Town Leans:
Tric
Weak Town Leans:
Verm, Toaster
NULL:
Urist, Sal, Jim
Weak Scum Leans:
NQT, Jack, Tooney
Strong Scum Leans:
Cat
Scum Reads:
N/A
Here's a preliminary list without Imp's ISO and before I read Cat. I just added Cat in strong scum leans afterwards. I will try reading IMP but I don't know if I can rn (not because I don't find her posts fun, trust me, I may find her posts the most fun in fact) but because it's 1:30am and she seems to have LOTS of content hahah
Imp posts so much that Krr1ss doesn't have a read, but their remaining reads are hilariously backwards with Crystal and Agentt at the top. This kind of makes me feel better about NQT.
#472 - Imp reads, still highly reading Verm as town, loves Crystal's playstyle but it sort of confident that they're probably anti-town here and not town which is interesting. Doesn't like Jim, probably because Jim was attacking Imp about not liking Toastercultist.
At this point Day 1 is coming to a close.
#493 - Crystal makes a remark that they're curious why NQT is voting Verm and Toaster, but "I suppose we'll never know unless NQT reveals it to us."
This feels pretty unnatural to me. Why suddenly curious about NQT's votes?
I agree though, I don't really like how NQT voted Verm and Toastercultist and just peaced out after. I think it's kind of scummy.
#503 - Imp thinks Cat is town, continues to sus Toastercult. Imp finishes their precious D1 reads: Verm and Sal are very high, Magma and Agentt are townlean, Crystal and NQT are null, Jim and Toastercult are scummy.
If Imp is town I think it's pretty hard to see Verm as town with they've rated them highly the whole game. Imp has gone back and forth with Jim and NQT though, currently in D5 they think NQT is top scumpick.
#514 - Jim no like Cat lynch, is aware they should be voting but aren't
#517 - Imp already paranoid about multiple anti-town factions, funny enough they were kind of right about Toastercult if you count mally as its own faction, it's basically with the mafia faction though.
#520 - Magma would like a Crystal lynch, or a Jim lynch.
Pretty good looking for Magma.
#538 - Magma EoD1 reads:
Town reads:
Imp
VermilionSkies
Krr1ss
ToonyMan
TricMagic
EuchreJack
Fewer town reads than I'd like but I'm finding it difficult to get reads on the remaining players (who I don't scum-read).
If Imp and Verm are both town (at least one should be) this town reads list is 100% accurate which is pretty good.
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