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[Imp]

I still think you're likely anti-town.  I don't think I can tell, and I really only sus you or Mater-Jim mix.

I think the biggest red flag you've shown is that you don't have a real suspicion. You're hedging hard! In the last game you could give reams of textual support to your suspicions. You were wrong about a lot of them (at least about me) but you got it right in the end.

This time you you just seem to be shrugging and saying you can't read me. And oh well, when I flip town it must be Magma/Jim. You have to see why I don't find any of that reassuring? I appreciate you're being "gentle" with me by not going chimp mode and throwing shit around wildly but I do expect from town-Imp some actual scumhunting and town reading ability and so far I've seen distressingly little.

Earlier you said you saw none.

Maybe this is just your style now.  I don't like it.  I do like you.  And hey.  I say let's resolve this by elim of the other.  Unless we get better evidence someone else is anti-town.  Do you think further declarations towards me are gonna convince anyone who isn't convinced?  I choose not to discuss your thinking with you, I want to see your flip and I really hope it ends the game.

I absolutely would vote someone more likely to be anti-town than you.  But I am town.  It's not me.  And I am content with your flip, not endless argument with you.  If there's anti-town not you - I won't find them by discussion with you either.

[Salvatore Monday]

Imp...it's not looking good...I'm 90% sure I know both of Magma's actions last night.

As of right now, any player could have used the mafiakill.

Magma's got the most coverage, but if it's possible Jim really mugged Imp and had the propeller hat and let Magma fakeclaim it as cover, then Magma would have a free action slot.

In this scheme, who did Magma Mater shoot with the Mafiakill, and why did it fail?

It would probably have to be NQT and NQT would have to have had something going on with his revive that he's either being stupidly cagey about or didn't understand. A town NQT really should look back on his ability and confirm in the thread whether or not he thinks he would have died twice, once and for all. After all, this is probably the last day if we get it wrong.

[ToonyMan]

Shockingly I think scum has to be either NQT or Imp, again. I wish NQT was actually dead so I could more comfortably commit sudoku.

[Imp]

During N5 deliberations I told Imp they should graverob Tric while I mug Magma, however Imp insisted they mug Magma even though I told them it was riskier for them to do that instead of me. I don't really want to mention this because it's incriminating against Imp and lowers my chances of winning overall, but Imp being mafia would explain why they really wanted to "mug" Magma so they can say their action failed. I thought it was strange behavior from Imp and I have to confess the truth as I don't believe it's fair to other players not to have a more complete picture. Maybe this will encourage Jim and Magma to stop being so damn shady and reserved with information since at least one of them is town instead of just me spilling my guts.

Quite soon I will literally be spilling my guts if Imp can't convince me who they think made their mug action fail. I successfully mug Magma on N4 so it's definitely possible to do.

Game is stress.  I am town.  I know only what I know.  I can't tell you what I don't know.

I mugged Magma as I explained to handle hat concern issues.  I have not been tracking hats closely before today.  There's a lot of them, I want to ensure I don't make more of them.  I focused on assessing my ability-change target each night so I had my better chances of getting copies because I double targeted; if I could have triple targeted the same person I would have.  last night I didn't change abilities, I did mug Mater to try and reduce his number of hats if he didn't pick me to inspect, and I have an action failed - it wasn't my vote gain.

That's all I know.

I hope you don't kill us both, I don't think that helps town win, but maybe those left can solve better without us and having seen our flips.  I don't think so - but hey.  I pushed SecretDorf because I thought he was harming town.  If you have to, you have to.  And if it's because you are stressed, I understand.  I'm sorry - I would have never put us in a private chat together.  I'm trying to play the game and not bother you, it helps that I do think you likely town.

You do what you gotta do.  I'm very sorry for Verm and Tric and Jack all involved in self-destruction of town.  If we have to fall to more stress or maybe some vile anti-town pushing buttons - I'm missing the button pushing.  But I think the game ends inside NQT's final death, and ends with a town win.

[notquitethere]

A town NQT really should look back on his ability and confirm in the thread whether or not he thinks he would have died twice, once and for all. After all, this is probably the last day if we get it wrong.

I've checked my PM again and I wasn't killed again. I only died and revived once (pulverised by incredible force). I even double checked the counter on my revives. Only one death.

After I died and revived, I quipped my line to the ghost of stories who happened to be passing. I assume Salvatore. Also I was left a thumb drive (presumably what contained the M Bison video). I realise now that that's another candidate for what could have been glinting.

[ToonyMan]

@Imp:
Why wouldn't you let me mug Magma though? If your motivation is to keep Magma's hats down then letting me mug Magma accomplishes the same goal and keeps your Top Hat safer. Tell everyone in the thread I'm not making this up we really discussed this in the Lovers chat.

Also, Imp, you need to convince me why NQT is scum here. Why is NQT scum?

[Jim Groovester]

I think it's either Imp as third mafia or notquitethere as hostile third party, but notquitethere has a demonstrable ability to keep fucking reviving, so eliminating him is going to take several rounds of this. If Salvatore Monday hadn't indicated he thinks there was a second kill attempt I would probably inclined to vote notquitethere until he was dead for good, but that and Imp's mysterious mugging failure on Magma Mater point to Imp being the last threat I feel.

There are nine votes, so to vote Imp down it would take the combined efforts of me, Magma Mater, Salvatore Monday, and notquitethere because even if ToonyMan is waffling about it he's still an Imp ally.

So I guess I'll ask notquitethere, Salvatore Monday, and Magma Mater how they think the game gets solved.

[ToonyMan]

@Imp:
NQT is absolutely right that your case on him is not very good. It's very wishy-washy "well if he's town I guess it's Jim/Magma". This is your chance to explain why NQT is your #1 scumpick and why we have to vote them today so town doesn't lose.

[Salvatore Monday]

A town NQT really should look back on his ability and confirm in the thread whether or not he thinks he would have died twice, once and for all. After all, this is probably the last day if we get it wrong.

I've checked my PM again and I wasn't killed again. I only died and revived once (pulverised by incredible force). I even double checked the counter on my revives. Only one death.

After I died and revived, I quipped my line to the ghost of stories who happened to be passing. I assume Salvatore. Also I was left a thumb drive (presumably what contained the M Bison video). I realise now that that's another candidate for what could have been glinting.

Hmmmm. Hm, yes. That's probably it.

If you were scum you could easily just lie about this and claim you could have been killed twice. I don't see why you wouldn't.

[Salvatore Monday]

I think it's either Imp as third mafia or notquitethere as hostile third party, but notquitethere has a demonstrable ability to keep fucking reviving, so eliminating him is going to take several rounds of this. If Salvatore Monday hadn't indicated he thinks there was a second kill attempt I would probably inclined to vote notquitethere until he was dead for good, but that and Imp's mysterious mugging failure on Magma Mater point to Imp being the last threat I feel.

There are nine votes, so to vote Imp down it would take the combined efforts of me, Magma Mater, Salvatore Monday, and notquitethere because even if ToonyMan is waffling about it he's still an Imp ally.

So I guess I'll ask notquitethere, Salvatore Monday, and Magma Mater how they think the game gets solved.

At this point, I really, really think the game gets solved if ToonyMan throws himself under the bus like a good boy.

I just gamed out all the ending scenarios where we get it wrong, and this is the last day if we get it wrong UNLESS it's you guys, in which case you just lose because everyone has more votes than you. So you might as well be honest about why you think you might have been shot.

[Jim Groovester]

I may be a little unkillable while I'm wearing the Dunce Cap.

[ToonyMan]

If I suicide bomb and NQT is scum they probably win because of their double vote and infinite lives. This is why I want to be really sure Imp is scum and NQT isn't.

[Magma Mater]

If I suicide bomb and NQT is scum they probably win because of their double vote and infinite lives. This is why I want to be really sure Imp is scum and NQT isn't.

Unkillable scum seems... unfair.

[Imp]

@Imp:
Why wouldn't you let me mug Magma though? If your motivation is to keep Magma's hats down then letting me mug Magma accomplishes the same goal and keeps your Top Hat safer. Tell everyone in the thread I'm not making this up we really discussed this in the Lovers chat.

Also, Imp, you need to convince me why NQT is scum here. Why is NQT scum?

We definitely discussed this in chat.  You very strongly wanted me to go for the sunglasses.  Apparently you think that's confirmable in some way?  As we see from how it played out, we have NQT taking them and Jim claiming to no-free-action.  If I didn't get them - what benefit do you imagine then?

I expected Magma to mean what he said.  He said he was inspecting me or NQT.  I figured me likely; I figured we keep elim of NQT going.  I don't think that mech or slot is town.

I planned to use my vote gain.  I didn't want to graverob, which Toony did want me to do - that puts MORE hats in Mater's hands if Mater investigates me, if I get the hat.  I don't want the sunglasses.  I don't want any other hat added into in play.  I don't want another hat in my hands.  I don't want to gain hats - Toony talked me into graverobbing for the tophat and I did agree that time, I had zero then and Tophat's a very useful hat.  Toony told me he thought my graverobbing N5 would be something less dangerous for me to do.

I would NEVER give Mater another hat.  I would agree to try and take a hat away from Mater.

Assess is always an option.

If Mater raided me and toony mugged Mater, either Toony gets a chance at getting a hat from Mater OR he gets hats from everyone else who mugs Mater.  Mater gets my hat unless someone not-me steals it from him; Toony suggested he could mug Mater and me, still wanted me to graverob.  I'm completely against my graverobbing N5 - I don't want the hat, I don't want to put yet another hat in Mater's hands.

I did not tell you not to mug Mater.  Sorry if you understood that.  I told you I intended to mug Mater.  You can do whatever, whyever.  I explained how concerned I was about Mater getting way too many hats way too fast.

You chose to go for the sunglasses.  That's your choice, it's not likely anti-town.  It's not my concern, I'm after anti-town and prevening 'everyone else loses' wins, which are also anti-town.

About NQT being mafia - and I do think he's more likely mafia specific than just anti-town.  It's the play.  And everyone elses' play.   I'm primarily reading NQT in 'absence'.  My last town-town game with him was that bad.  He talks about not playing for a long time.  I would never miss a FBYOR but between everything I'm going through.  And I don't want to be in a private chat with you either, Toons.  I don't want to be interacting with people who distain interaction with me, though you've been very polite since we were forced to interact.

This game does suck.  In a lot of ways.  And I am town, and I will play for town to win, no matter what else.

[notquitethere]

I don't want to be interacting with people who distain interaction with me

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Just for the record, I enjoy playing with you Imp and I was looking forward to it this time too. I had a frustrating experience in the previous game — it's always frustrating when people suspect you when you're innocent, just see how Euchrejack reacted in this game. But it all turned out OK in the end.

I'm sorry if you've got the wrong end of the stick.