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[Salvatore Monday]

I must be misreading my feedback to some degree then - who knows 🤷‍♀️

You're not misreading it, it just doesn't mean what you think - it's not a watch result.

[Magma Mater]

Toony, Magma didn't kill anyone, both Jim and I and apparently even you are saying that. So if Magma is vouching for AnimePigeon why are you still voting him?? If you're town, make a real vote.

Imp, you're going to be very surprised when you catch up.

Cool.  But will I also be very angry?

I'm so easily angered.  I also may be called away by family soon.

Talk about easily angered.  All my lie tolerance has been used up for the next year and a half.  Whoops.

Hmm, maybe you shouldn't read the past few pages... 

[AnimePigeon]

Magma, what's your current stance on Imp & NQT?

[Magma Mater]

Magma, what's your current stance on Imp & NQT?

Both are probably town.

[Magma Mater]

Let's TP Magma's house Imp it would be funny.

Toony, Magma didn't kill anyone, both Jim and I and apparently even you are saying that. So if Magma is vouching for AnimePigeon why are you still voting him?? If you're town, make a real vote.

Imp, you're going to be very surprised when you catch up.

Magma can suck it. I think they want me dead no matter what (this has been the entire game of thinking I'm scum when this ISN'T TRUE) which is why I don't believe them even if it's possible they have results to clear AP. Magma has joked and treated me like garbage compared to every other player (including Agentt) so I'm going to treat them with as much respect if you can understand my position, sorry.

If you vote for someone else in your next post I'll copy it and won't move it for the rest of the day.

[Imp]

You mean you'll be upset if something hurts me before you get the chance to do it yourself? 
I don't really count Agentt's random vote on page 1 as a real vote.

... Nobody gets hurt or I get angrier.  Lots.

I don't believe you about not counting Agentt's vote.

You're precise.  Even about set notation.

You made a set that explicitly included the Agentt.  Now you claim you didn't.

Hate you.  Still don't want you harmed.

Throws more things, checking to make sure no things or their landing zones are alive.

[Imp]

Let's TP Magma's house Imp it would be funny.

Toony, Magma didn't kill anyone, both Jim and I and apparently even you are saying that. So if Magma is vouching for AnimePigeon why are you still voting him?? If you're town, make a real vote.

Imp, you're going to be very surprised when you catch up.

Magma can suck it. I think they want me dead no matter what (this has been the entire game of thinking I'm scum when this ISN'T TRUE) which is why I don't believe them even if it's possible they have results to clear AP. Magma has joked and treated me like garbage compared to every other player (including Agentt) so I'm going to treat them with as much respect if you can understand my position, sorry.

They ended D1 very anti Toons.  They started D2 completely ignoring Toons, then suddenly switched to straight for toons, with lingo similar to drunk Mater on me.

I just don't believe Mater, I may not believe in Mater.  And I'm not gonna take Mater into my own hands.  Apparently he's not even votable, though I haven't caught up yet, haven't read past my previous reply thing yet.  It's coming.  Will I have reason to vote Mater?  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  I've been pretty annoyed that I have no reason to vote Mater.

[Salvatore Monday]

Imp, let me sum up:

Magma confirms tracking Anime to "not Crystal". He hasn't specified where but I have to assume to Jim, as Anime claimed, or he would have said something. Magma also confirms that he was psychically roleblocked (doesn't affect the tech he's claiming to have used).
NotQuiteThere confirms psychically roleblocking Magma. He did so before there was any reason to think anyone had, so I doubt he's lying. ToonyMan also claims to have psychically roleblocked Magma, but said it later, so it's not as believable.
I also confirm that Anime's claimed results are plausible.
Jim confirms that Magma didn't leave his house, and it's unlikely that he could've known that if he were lying, unless, I guess, he's teamed with one of the roleblockers somehow. I don't see how that would be consistent with the information that there are two dopps and we already killed one, though. Maybe Meph didn't mention a third dopp pod hidden somewhere we didn't look... 
So four actions are basically accounted for outside of serous mental gymnastics: AP, MM, NQT, and JG. From my perspective, that reduces my window to you and ToonyMan. From your perspective, that reduces your window to me and ToonyMan, and it isn't me.

[Imp]

Toony, Magma didn't kill anyone, both Jim and I and apparently even you are saying that. So if Magma is vouching for AnimePigeon why are you still voting him?? If you're town, make a real vote.

Imp, you're going to be very surprised when you catch up.

Cool.  But will I also be very angry?

I'm so easily angered.  I also may be called away by family soon.

Talk about easily angered.  All my lie tolerance has been used up for the next year and a half.  Whoops.

Hmm, maybe you shouldn't read the past few pages... 

But Toon's suggestion to TP Mater's house.  Probably expensive and wasteful.

Although, roles of TP?

About perfect for low harm hurling.

I'ma do somma that!

[Imp]

Imp, let me sum up:

Magma confirms tracking Anime to "not Crystal". He hasn't specified where but I have to assume to Jim, as Anime claimed, or he would have said something. Magma also confirms that he was psychically roleblocked (doesn't affect the tech he's claiming to have used).
NotQuiteThere confirms psychically roleblocking Magma. He did so before there was any reason to think anyone had, so I doubt he's lying. ToonyMan also claims to have psychically roleblocked Magma, but said it later, so it's not as believable.
I also confirm that Anime's claimed results are plausible.
Jim confirms that Magma didn't leave his house, and it's unlikely that he could've known that if he were lying, unless, I guess, he's teamed with one of the roleblockers somehow. I don't see how that would be consistent with the information that there are two dopps and we already killed one, though. Maybe Meph didn't mention a third dopp pod hidden somewhere we didn't look... 
So four actions are basically accounted for outside of serous mental gymnastics: AP, MM, NQT, and JG. From my perspective, that reduces my window to you and ToonyMan. From your perspective, that reduces your window to me and ToonyMan, and it isn't me.

"(doesn't affect the tech he's claiming to have used)."  gets that far and wants to stop and go look stuff up, but doesn't, keeps reading

"third dopp pod hidden"  If that's in play I kinda expect a rogue dop, but who can say, right.

"Window"

Hrm.  Interesting.

Thanks.  I'll continue to catch up, and also research claims.

[ToonyMan]

I don't care Magma. Just kill me. Half the players in the game (including Crystal probably) targeted you last night because they thought you were the most scummy player in the game. The fact it seems like you're not scum is SHOCKING. BAFFLING. ENRAGING.

@Imp:
Let's hate Magma together.  😈

[Salvatore Monday]

I don't care Magma. Just kill me. Half the players in the game (including Crystal probably) targeted you last night because they thought you were the most scummy player in the game. The fact it seems like you're not scum is SHOCKING. BAFFLING. ENRAGING.

@Imp:
Let's hate Magma together.  😈

I also thought Magma was the scummiest player in the game, which is why I targeted you. Gonna be a little annoyed if it was the other way around!

[Imp]

Let's TP Magma's house Imp it would be funny.

Toony, Magma didn't kill anyone, both Jim and I and apparently even you are saying that. So if Magma is vouching for AnimePigeon why are you still voting him?? If you're town, make a real vote.

Imp, you're going to be very surprised when you catch up.

Magma can suck it. I think they want me dead no matter what (this has been the entire game of thinking I'm scum when this ISN'T TRUE) which is why I don't believe them even if it's possible they have results to clear AP. Magma has joked and treated me like garbage compared to every other player (including Agentt) so I'm going to treat them with as much respect if you can understand my position, sorry.

I don't care Magma. Just kill me. Half the players in the game (including Crystal probably) targeted you last night because they thought you were the most scummy player in the game. The fact it seems like you're not scum is SHOCKING. BAFFLING. ENRAGING.

@Imp:
Let's hate Magma together.  😈

Sure.  I felt pretty treated like garbage, though I'd use other words that involve false or twisted interpretation of facts and perception, when he claimed drunk.

Weirdly... I identify as evil and I sure get angry.

Hate... apparently is outside my wheelhouse, or blows a fuse.  I can't hate?  But I can be angry that I can't hate.  throws more stuff  I can trust though.  I haven't read anything yet that changes that I trust Jim.

I still have more to read.

[Imp]

I don't care Magma. Just kill me. Half the players in the game (including Crystal probably) targeted you last night because they thought you were the most scummy player in the game. The fact it seems like you're not scum is SHOCKING. BAFFLING. ENRAGING.

@Imp:
Let's hate Magma together.  😈

I also thought Magma was the scummiest player in the game, which is why I targeted you. Gonna be a little annoyed if it was the other way around!

Yeah, I presume claims and stuff have been discussed, but AP's claimed target of Jim said so much about his role, given his read claims.  That's the silent stuff I wasn't talking about.

[Imp]

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind Magma targets me if we go to N2. I'm shocked they didn't last night since they've spent the entire game hating me. The fact they're not a dopp makes me really upset.

Okay... is there a reason why Mater targeting you is a problem?

It's not a problem. You are incapable of reading.

Okay.  I mean if you're dop and a hair from conceding + upset or something.  I'm sorry, I want us all to have fun.

I dunno what role Mater is.  Maybe I should know.

If you don't reveal your dopness, which is totally dope, then we gotta find who it is.  Maybe Mater can just keep cutting through confusion; I have no idea.  You are in PoE, to me, to others.  So are other people.

I've been sitting here thinking that I dunno what to do with today, except listen to people when they choose to talk.

I can't vote Mater, I won't vote Jim.  I'm not dop.  I could be wrong about Jim; I imagine Jim could be fooled someone by Mater (but that seems unlikely, I sure have tried to see how over and over).  If I'm wrong about Jim that feels weird.  But I choose to trust Jim.

For me, anyone between Sal, AP, NQT, and yourself are targets.

I think NQT is kinda getting ignored?  AP is kinda avoidant?  Sal's gotten a ton of attention and I feel kinda sad for Sal and I prefer not to vote for Sal, but sure will if I get more reason to or have to break a tie or something and Sal seems the better pick.

You feel weird off-fine-off-fine which is interesting.  And I'm aware maybe I don't make it to the end of the game, there's at least some sus of me (pity, I'd like to stay in play).

But if you're dop, I don't think you're for sure gonna lose, unless you reveal or already have.  I dunno about 'impossible to win' for dops, though I'm town and don't need to find a dop path.

I hope my inability to read doesn't bother you, and I want us all having fun.

I've not once seen Salvatore try to explain or justify his reads, other than "it's sad you don't understand me" - how exactly does that contribute towards helping towns helping to find towns?

It's sneaky and subtle.  Sal's the kinda player I might naturally have a lot of anger towards; Sal's spent some time out of game helping me understand and value Sal.  They were good lessons; I value Sal hugely as an ally when ally.  Sal gets some extra 'hrm, that's a lie, but what kind?' credit from me, instead of 'that's a lie, I don't see the point, now I hate you'.  Went through that stage with Sal oocly; he earned a Sal-shaped spot in my regards.  He can use or abuse it, it isn't fixed.  But fascinating and fun; in a sense Sal's in 'as precarious' a position with me as Verm - I can't read Sal, so there's like a behavior contract of expectations from me to him

I think Sal can spin a lie that saves town and destroys anti-town; that's not just 'oh he lies' it's 'oh, he can shape outcomes'.  I've agreed inside my own head to accept his methods because they can lead to outcomes I value, at a high level of leading and valuing.  So he gets extra credit from me.

If he's town he's high value town, even though he doesn't necessarily look it.

I don't expect Sal to 'look' very good.  I expect high quality useful pro-town outcomes from his behavior over time.  And I expect to destroy him if that doesn't happen.