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[Blue_Dwarf]

So a dwarf grabs a platinum bar weighing 128Γ, as well as a gabbro block, and makes a platinum mace:



We need a dwarven IRS to audit him about all that missing 111Γ of platinum...

[PlumpHelmetMan]

I mean embezzlement plots can already happen in worldgen, but they probably won't become a major part of fort mode until the economy comes back. XD

[Hetairos]

It's not just metals. Watching a dwarf take a 5 ton chunk of rawhide from a procedural creature and turn it into a 2 kg piece of leather is a certain kind of pain.

Maybe the output of some tasks should be bound to the mass or volume of the inputs, rather than hard-set.

[Eric]

If you had been there when materials got sliced into /1000 parts and would have witnessed the sheer terror of having bins after bins full of 17/1000 steel you wouldnt wish for this

we've been there, we dont want it back

(or at least thats how i recall it, please correct me if im wrong but i only know it was a pain)

[aSpatula66]

It's not just metals. Watching a dwarf take a 5 ton chunk of rawhide from a procedural creature and turn it into a 2 kg piece of leather is a certain kind of pain.

After v50 leather output is dependent on the size of the skin. Larger creatures will yield more leather.

[Blue_Dwarf]

If you had been there when materials got sliced into /1000 parts and would have witnessed the sheer terror of having bins after bins full of 17/1000 steel you wouldnt wish for this

we've been there, we dont want it back

(or at least thats how i recall it, please correct me if im wrong but i only know it was a pain)

Ok, but couldn't he then make like, 7 artifact maces out of that platinum bar?

[Eric]

That was the plan if i recall correctly and in general it worked.

Products needed a certain amount of material like a breastplate could need 700 units, a pair of greaves 250 and a toy 75.
The goal was, i think, to not use 1 bar for 1 helm or 1 breastplate alike if the products were of different material volume and like i said it worked pretty well.

Problem was that the rest amounts couldnt be combined again very well and it led to a massive amount of work order clutter so it got changed in later updates.

Not shure if artefacts even used the system and i wouldnt expect dorfs to use materials based on rational economic  thoughts while building something a voice in their heads tells them to ^^

P.S. i just looked through version history and i couldnt find anything about the things im rambling about, maybe one of the other long-time fortress players here could help me out on this point, i hope i didnt just imaging this very specific leg of DF history

[Eric Blank]

I don't recall saving/salvaging lost material ever being implemented. Maybe it was planned, or maybe like me you too have dreams about really cool game updates that you later learn were literally a figment of your imagination.

I don't see why it can't be suggested in the suggestions subforum. I know smelteries can have partial bars of material, we just need to make those manifest like partial cloth/silk bolts and get annoyed item dwarves can haul over to the smelter and combine or substitute multiple partials for a whole in jobs

[slowpersun]

I don't recall saving/salvaging lost material ever being implemented. Maybe it was planned, or maybe like me you too have dreams about really cool game updates that you later learn were literally a figment of your imagination.

I don't see why it can't be suggested in the suggestions subforum. I know smelteries can have partial bars of material, we just need to make those manifest like partial cloth/silk bolts and get annoyed item dwarves can haul over to the smelter and combine or substitute multiple partials for a whole in jobs

I mean, basically nothing is produced without at least some by-products/waste/spillage/mining tailings... although maybe not like 1 ton into 14 kg of stuff!  Still, having game track partial material or waste individually for saving/salvaging might not be worth the CPU and memory.  Can't hurt to suggest, but game already has enough issues with tracking insane amounts of items.  A more lightweight possibility is to just have the salvage tracked by each workshop instead of individually, though.