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[Fellhuhn]

I am currently wondering:
Can a entity own more than one site? Because everytime they conquerer one a new entity gets generated...

Sure. Currently, there are three or four types of entities. Civilizations, who can own several sites, site governments that are subordinate to civilizations, and "nomadic groups" (bandits, and probably the underground people, the former of which do have fixed associated sites). What you're seeing is the old site government being deposed and a new one being installed.

Then it is not included in the files.
There we have:
Populations without any data except their ids and no reference anyway towards them.
Entities, some without names, some with them. Those are referenced to site conquests and so on but each time a site gets conquereed a new leader gets selected who then creates a new entities.

EDIT:
So each site will have one entity connected to it, except: destroyed sites, caverns and fortresses (not dark fortresses).

Will continue to work on in on Thursday.

[Knight Otu]

Then it is not included in the files.
There we have:
Populations without any data except their ids and no reference anyway towards them.
Entities, some without names, some with them. Those are referenced to site conquests and so on but each time a site gets conquereed a new leader gets selected who then creates a new entities.

EDIT:
So each site will have one entity connected to it, except: destroyed sites, caverns and fortresses (not dark fortresses).

Will continue to work on in on Thursday.

The entity_populations tag is the nomadic groups - the underground civilizations plus the bandits. The nameless entities are the underground civilizations again. The numbers add up correctly, best seen in a pocket world.

As far as I can see, most site-related events have both the entity id of the civilization (often as civ_id) and of the site government (often as site_civ_id) among their tags, where applicable (such as fortresses not having a site government). It should be possible to gather the sites of the entity from those, though it certainly would be better if the entity tags had site subtags.

[Hummingbird]

This is a great idea!

One question, however: is it possible for you to make a Mac version?

[Fellhuhn]

This is a great idea!

One question, however: is it possible for you to make a Mac version?

I don't have a Mac (and never will have as I hate Apple and Steve Jobs). Although the program is completely written in Qt and therefore should be able to run once it has been compiled. I look into it once it is done.


@Knight Otu
Thanks for the hints, I will look into that today.

[Fellhuhn]

The entity_populations tag is the nomadic groups - the underground civilizations plus the bandits. The nameless entities are the underground civilizations again. The numbers add up correctly, best seen in a pocket world.

As far as I can see, most site-related events have both the entity id of the civilization (often as civ_id) and of the site government (often as site_civ_id) among their tags, where applicable (such as fortresses not having a site government). It should be possible to gather the sites of the entity from those, though it certainly would be better if the entity tags had site subtags.

That worked. Thank you!
With this knowledge it was possible to get the relations right.

But one question remains: Can those relations change? So that a site giverment switches over to another civilization?

[Knight Otu]

I'm 99% sure that doesn't happen - site governments are completely replaced when their site is conquered, and not turned into puppet governments (at this point at least).

[Fellhuhn]

Ok. I thought more like a civ going against their previous masters. But that is nothing I have seen by now so I assume that that is not possible.

So now I have a nice overview about which entity belongs to which other entity and which sites they control.

All Wars, their victims, the attacker, the defender, each single event, all listed.

More to come.

[Parker147]

I've been messing with legends xml dump myself some. My first goal is just to recreate the legends screen from the xml dump and have been sorting through the events this weekend. I've got a good amount of that done so sometime this afternoon I'm going to finish that up start updating http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/XML_dump that was worked on by Mason11987 who made World Viewer. Also going to start adding bug reports on the stuff I have found too.

[Typhus]

Would a program that works for DF2010 work also for 40d? I'd love to be able to read about the exploits of Cacame or Tholtig without having to navigate the nightmare of Legends mode.

[Parker147]

40d didn't have the xml dump and I don't think you can load 40d saves in DF2010.

[Fellhuhn]

I've been messing with legends xml dump myself some. My first goal is just to recreate the legends screen from the xml dump and have been sorting through the events this weekend. I've got a good amount of that done so sometime this afternoon I'm going to finish that up start updating http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/XML_dump that was worked on by Mason11987 who made World Viewer. Also going to start adding bug reports on the stuff I have found too.

Ah, nice overview. Updated some of the stuff.

[Chromasphere]

watching

[Fellhuhn]

Perhaps I will be able to continue my work on this project on monday. It is quite hard to find the time during the holiday season.

[Fellhuhn]

Just added an overview for "Amount of deaths grouped by cause"... tried it on a 500MB legends file. The result ordered by amount:

struck - 67415
old age - 9809
dragonfire - 4241
shot - 197
murdered - 72
fire - 71
executed (drowned) - 2
executed (beheaded) - 1

A lot of dragons it seems...
*click on "Figures"*
*click on "Sort by Kills"*
Ah, two dragons with 235 and 231 kills each. And one with 211 and 208, one with 202 and 201... okay, all of them alive. Dangerous.

hmm.. sorting by race doesn't seem to work. And go... *working*

EDIT: Done, working again.

Added "Death by Race":

Human - 53811
Elf - 16812
Goblin - 4462
Dwarf - 4143
Dragons - 0

hehe, "poor" elves.