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Re: Only WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH (Only War Greenskins Campaign OOC)
« Reply #165 on: June 20, 2022, 08:10:37 pm »

My weapon also comes from my character's history and he doesn't want to give it up for a generic mook weapon.
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Re: Only WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH (Only War Greenskins Campaign OOC)
« Reply #166 on: June 20, 2022, 08:11:04 pm »

Just a single one? It probably wouldn't be that far out there to get enough for the squad.

You're thinking like a rogue trader. In Only War you have to deal with the startling incompetence of the DM. You're lucky if you can get anything Common or under.
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« Reply #167 on: June 20, 2022, 08:11:23 pm »

Just a single one? It probably wouldn't be that far out there to get enough for the squad.

I might be badly misreading it, but I think it's something like 25% to get one.  And the autocannon might be impossible.

It's entirely possible I'm just reading it entirely wrong.

(As for why not the pistol, it seems the only advantages the autopistol would have is freeing up the second hand and being lighter.  That could be useful if the melee weapon was something held in one hand, because I could then parry with my gun out, but it's a bayonet that's attached to a lasgun, so that isn't an option.)

(I don't really understand the rules yet, so I might be totally wrong, but I don't see any reason why the combat shotgun would be bad, so going for that.)
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« Reply #168 on: June 20, 2022, 08:17:46 pm »

Is this official gear that needs to be accounted for at a future date?
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Re: Only WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH (Only War Greenskins Campaign OOC)
« Reply #169 on: June 20, 2022, 08:24:40 pm »

Is this official gear that needs to be accounted for at a future date?

No, it is basically the department screwing up and they have no idea that you have it. You will probably get in mild trouble if found with it during inspection. You can freely use them but won't get any free refills. Which brings us to...

Trading In Gear

What you got isn't what you wanted. If what you have is decent enough you can attempt to trade it for something someone else in your Regiment or PDF has. This works under the Working the System rules, a Commerce test with a penalty based on whatever you are trying to trade in. This is forbidden and should be done under the table unless you want to bank on your superiors being shady or pragmatic.

You could theoretically trade some of the grenades to the local PDF for a local shotgun, or attempt to trade the drum of acid for something else.

Also reminder Covert Strike gives +10 to certain logistic rolls involving Stealth.
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Re: Only WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH (Only War Greenskins Campaign OOC)
« Reply #170 on: June 20, 2022, 08:35:44 pm »

Just a single one? It probably wouldn't be that far out there to get enough for the squad.

You're thinking like a rogue trader. In Only War you have to deal with the startling incompetence of the DM. You're lucky if you can get anything Common or under.

Bah, where are my absurd piles of money and city-monastery worth of loyal minions? This is bullshit. I want my solar pattern heavy bolter with suspensors back, that thing melted a powerful demon.
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Re: Only WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH (Only War Greenskins Campaign OOC)
« Reply #171 on: June 20, 2022, 08:42:55 pm »

Just a single one? It probably wouldn't be that far out there to get enough for the squad.

You're thinking like a rogue trader. In Only War you have to deal with the startling incompetence of the DM. You're lucky if you can get anything Common or under.

Bah, where are my absurd piles of money and city-monastery worth of loyal minions? This is bullshit. I want my solar pattern heavy bolter with suspensors back, that thing melted a powerful demon.

Well now with your drum filled with acid you can literally melt powerful demons!
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« Reply #172 on: June 20, 2022, 08:44:36 pm »

But we don't have any trebuchets or ogryn to use it as ammunition for.
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« Reply #173 on: June 21, 2022, 12:34:10 pm »

I would like to discuss with Stirk how they would see minor manifestations of divination and telekeinesis working in their game.

Mostly because there are games of chance afoot and I would like to increase my chances of winning something for the squad with divination manifestations, and telekinesis manifestations might be useful for causing distractions when we’re stealthing about.
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« Reply #174 on: June 21, 2022, 01:00:55 pm »

I would like to discuss with Stirk how they would see minor manifestations of divination and telekeinesis working in their game.

Mostly because there are games of chance afoot and I would like to increase my chances of winning something for the squad with divination manifestations, and telekinesis manifestations might be useful for causing distractions when we’re stealthing about.

If you use it in games of chance you'll first have to ditch your handler. Gambling is a Logic roll (apparently), cheating will probably get you a +20 bonus but if you fail hard enough people will figure out what is going on they'll probably organize an impromptu witch burning in response. Your telekinesis manifestations will be context dependent, if you move a rock to distract an ork everyone involved would probably get +10, if you manage to trick two Orks into fighting you might get a +30.

Probably.
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« Reply #175 on: June 21, 2022, 02:17:12 pm »

Mmm, cheating might actually go against the whole Chivalry thing we have going on, though it does only specify deceive checks…

There are too many things to spend XP on.

I s’pose I could throw it open to everybody: I could spend 100XP on the minor manifestations (50XP for each “school” of psychic power I have an ability in) and also another 100XP on the logic skill since I don’t have it;

I could spend 200XP on gaining another +10 on the Psyniscience skill, which will allow me to know a bit more about any Psykers we may come across, and also makes it easier to successfully cast Prescience, which gives two of you a whopping +4 bonus to BS and WS;

I could spend 200XP on Spontaneous Combustion, which acts like Assail (until my psy rating goes up, in which case Assail is better) but I can possibly set enemies on fire;

I could save it up to increase my Psy rating later, which will cost 600XP to go from 2 to 3. This will increase the range I can do things at, some bonuses to psychic powers (Prescience would affect 3 of you, and get a +6 bonus, for example) and also certain psy ratings are prerequisites for certain more powerful abilities I can get later.
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« Reply #176 on: June 21, 2022, 03:51:02 pm »

I would think that hiding the fact you are cheating would count as deception.
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« Reply #177 on: June 21, 2022, 04:30:47 pm »

I would only have to hide the fact I’m cheating if I get caught cheating.
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« Reply #178 on: June 21, 2022, 05:17:20 pm »

If you get caught cheating it's because you failed to hid the fact you were cheting.
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Re: Only WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH (Only War Greenskins Campaign OOC)
« Reply #179 on: June 21, 2022, 06:36:17 pm »

I would think that hiding the fact you are cheating would count as deception.

You are allowed to use technicalities. Presumably of the "It doesn't say that a dog can't play basketball" variety in this case.

But yeah it is risky when if they ask "Hey are you using your psyker power to have an unfair advantage?" and you can't say no.
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