Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Reelya]

Yeah I'm twisting your arm to keep posting.

[Reelya]

Man i tried to finish the conversation with the point about how we should both drop it because it's veered way off topic, but you wanted to keep it going after that. How about we do drop it and agree not to post anything non-thread relevant?

Relevant things are tech news links.

[Reelya]

Is that self-reference?

[Starver]

I hope I'm not going to regret suggesting that perhaps this is where it should end, whoever the last person to post was before this one (at this rate, it could be either of you, so no chance of favouritism).


((Yep, multiple replies since I started writing this.))

I know I'm sometimes not good at letting things go myself, but...  Well, this is my one post on this meta-subject, the rest I leave up to you...

[Toady One]

I'll go ahead and suggest it too.  Hopefully we can move on without issue, though it is a good chunk of the last 150 posts or something.

[wierd]

Not sufficient for me though.  Enceladus is part of Saturn's D-Ring. It is electrically connected with Saturn's magnetosphere, and has enough electrical current being injected through it to dissociate the hydrogen from the oxygen in the water vapor plumes being ejected from the moon. (we are talking enough current to drive hydrodynamic forces strong enough to expel a subterene ocean through the moon's crust and out into space here.)

Doesnt this belong in the space thread though?  Spectrometers are not exactly new tech...

[martinuzz]

Yeah I was kinda surprised at the lack of reactions

[Starver]

Yeah I was kinda surprised at the lack of reactions

With it being hydrogen, I agree. But if it had been helium, a lack of reactions would have been perfectly within expectations... 

[Max™]

...eyyyyyy!

[redwallzyl]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/20/524896256/louisianas-governor-declares-state-of-emergency-over-disappearing-coastline

Looks like decades of destroying the environment is finally catching up to them.

all that stuff to "improve the economy" and make companies more money ends up costing more then was made in the end. people need to realize that there exists other forms of capital than economic and they are better off remaining as they are. everyone would do well to remember this.

[Max™]

Figured this has to be shared here, as it's tech news: http://cheezburger.com/1981189/fail-blog-enabled-juicer-gets-properly-skewered-by-internet-after-hilarious-fail-of-a-revelation

*still giggling over Gateradero*

[Max™]

Well damn, apparently firefox will be getting rid of the last remaining reason to use it over other browsers, the customizable ui options which were removed by the australis update and re-enabled with the xul/css add-on classic theme restorer? Not gonna be an option with the new webextension addons:
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2016/11/23/add-ons-in-2017/ (the announcement was kinda abrupt)
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2017/02/16/the-road-to-firefox-57-compatibility-milestones/ (months later it's still a shock)
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/Comparison_with_XUL_XPCOM_extensions#UI (going from "literally do what you will" to "you can still add a button or context menu entry!" apparently)
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/High-Level_APIs/ui (so we go from an endlessly tweaked toolbox)
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/User_interface_components (to a sanitized handful of basic options)
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/Add_a_button_to_the_toolbar (weee, a fucking button)

So now I'm going from being able to use the "infinite depth" of the top edge as a target so I can just run my cursor up at the desired target and hit it:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

To not even being able (as of yet) to invert the url bar/tab ordering.

So instead of flicking upwards I have to adjust downwards slightly to hit the x on a tab (or ctrl+w*), stop well before then to hit the url bar (or f6*), which is huge for no reason, and the most promising thing I saw so far was an option to "inject a toolbar into a webpage" which didn't actually sound so bad if there were enough options, like if I could hide the tab bar and replace it on one of these or some shit... but no, it's as lame as I hoped it wouldn't be:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Bleh, but hey, at least now everyone can use chrome, even when they aren't using chrome, hurray! Who needs ui control? Certainly not users, they're dumb, having to use their eyes to see where they moved something is too much to ask, let's tell them it's a security risk letting them rearrange the ui and call it a day!

My favorite part though, was how the firefox mission statement shit which is supposed to justify webextensions+xul deprecation says "a browser should get you where you're going and get out of the way" which apparently means "force it to be more in your way than it was before because fuck you" I guess?

^*_{Yeah, using keyboard commands is handy, but if I wanted to go that route exclusively I'd try to set up a terminal based browser and forego the gui portion entirely. I mean, it is all super fucking 1st world problems, but damn it to hell, I liked my comfy browser setup!}

[Max™]

I've got it installed, but there's still a lot missing to make it worth the full migration. Can't figure out why it spams new bin processes endlessly either, I know it's multiprocess and all, but so is firefox now (got the main window and two tab processes atm) and despite all the crap I've got on here it's still snappier than vivaldi was just starting fresh.

Was looking into the ungoogled chromium versions, inox looked good on arch but the compile keeps cutting out. A tip for anyone else trying one of the ungoogled compiles: switch your makepkg.conf to use a different path, the normal linux route of putting it in /tmp or whatever and allocating 2 GB won't work with chromium's fat ass wanting 3 GB or more sometimes for compiling.

Now, I can understand mozilla wanting to move away from slapping more layers of spaghetti to keep the old ass add-ons working, but for the life of me I can not understand why arbitrarily limiting ui manipulation is something firefox can justify.

Chrome doesn't give a fuck about what you want, it just relies on always being there like that reliable old ex-turned-fuckbuddy that never seems to ask for much up front, but then you discover they're stalking you again and one morning you wake up to find them hiding in the cabinet reading your emails in the nude...

Opera was hip and cool and into freedom and changing itself, helped firefox with a lot of ideas back in the day, but it started getting old, started trying to dress younger, change their hair color, and even imitating chrome now.

Safari is uh... well, you remember that one date you had where they were really cute and all, but you found out later they were basically just bait to bring new members into a cult? Yeah...

Vivaldi is cute and edgy, kinda reminds you of an old crush, but it could lose some weight, and it's got to work out some stability issues, but hey, it might work out later, right?

[wierd]

Not sure if this belongs here, or in science--

Scientists succeed in reaching milestone in artificial womb tech. Keep lambs alive for over a month in artificial amnionic sac.

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/04/25/525044286/scientists-create-artificial-womb-that-could-help-prematurely-born-babies

[martinuzz]

Vat grown soldiers sheeple, ahoy!