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Char13magne

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The Very British Civil War-1938
« on: May 07, 2010, 02:25:30 pm »

So, I was thinking of a cool roleplaying game to run, maybe a what-if historical scenario. And the thought came to me, what if Edward VIII didn't abdicate in 1936, and this splits England down the middle in a violent civil war?

So, basically an alternative history where Edward VIII did not abdicate in 1936 and causes a constitutional crisis leading to a civil war in England (more info on the topic below in the link).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VIII_abdication_crisis

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Anglican League, British Royalist Coalition, British Union of Fascists, Liverpool (Socialist) Freestate, the Army of the Scottish Republic, British Socialist Confederation, the Welsh Nationalists, And The BUF (British Union of Fascists, an actual organization existing at the time)

So, any thoughts? Anyone maybe might be interested in this sort of thing, were I to pull some rules together?
« Last Edit: May 08, 2010, 07:41:29 pm by Char13magne »
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Re: The Very British Civil War-1938
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 04:03:24 pm »

I would be interested.
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Re: The Very British Civil War-1938
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2010, 04:05:45 pm »

I would be interested.

Very good! Any ideas or contributions to rules/storyline you would like to suggest?
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Re: The Very British Civil War-1938
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2010, 04:07:12 pm »

What kind of game are we looking at? I might be interested depending on the type of game.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2010, 04:11:01 pm »

What kind of game are we looking at? I might be interested depending on the type of game.

I would say, by popular vote, either risk-style control-of-England via politics and warfare (with extensively described battles) style game, or DnD styled party-based combat/politics with maybe, 4-8 people. I would come up with rules and storyline specifically for this, given maybe 2-3 days, and maybe some support/help/suggestions, if enough interest is displayed. Should I put the type of game to a vote in Poll form?
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2010, 04:13:53 pm »

Maybe, I would like to join in a risk type game. Just remember not to make it too complex, otherwise you may experience information overload. :P

I would also join it if it was DnD, but I would like an example of it first.
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Re: The Very British Civil War-1938
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2010, 04:17:01 pm »

Maybe, I would like to join in a risk type game. Just remember not to make it too complex, otherwise you may experience information overload. :P

I would also join it if it was DnD, but I would like an example of it first.

Example?
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Re: The Very British Civil War-1938
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2010, 04:23:39 pm »

After briefly reasearching the subject, I am unable to see how it could be turned into a forum game. I fail to see how players, their goals and challenged could be constructed from the situation.

of course, that's just based on my limited knowledge of the subject. If you can see a way, then I would be very impressed.
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2010, 04:27:24 pm »

Maybe, I would like to join in a risk type game. Just remember not to make it too complex, otherwise you may experience information overload. :P

I would also join it if it was DnD, but I would like an example of it first.

Example?
I would like to know how it would play out.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 04:36:28 pm »

After briefly reasearching the subject, I am unable to see how it could be turned into a forum game. I fail to see how players, their goals and challenged could be constructed from the situation.

of course, that's just based on my limited knowledge of the subject. If you can see a way, then I would be very impressed.

So, basically, the church would get mad, (except for the archbishop of Canterbury, who supported him up until the end), and would eventually, in this crazy world, lead a coup against the crown if he refused to abdicate. This would lead to the splitting of England into two factions, the Evangelicals, and the Monarchists. After conflict breaks out, anyone in the area who ever wanted a piece of England, or better yet, to be free of England, would join in. Thus, the Irish, Welsh, and Scottich nationalists, and the Fascists, Socialists, and Anarchists (the latter three all already had representation among English society, so the only thing that would be necessary to incite them would be a war, and better yet, an English Civil war). So, basically, in the long run, a war of ideologies sprouting from a rapidly devolving but all too commonplace scandal. Like it?
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Re: The Very British Civil War-1938
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 04:39:07 pm »

sounds very good.

Perhaps another country might take advantage of the situation to invade a chunk of britain?
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Re: The Very British Civil War-1938
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2010, 04:42:09 pm »

sounds very good.

Perhaps another country might take advantage of the situation to invade a chunk of britain?

Yeah, I would think maybe France or Germany, maybe Russia. And maybe some Americans would come in to play hero on the Evangelical side? You know, like the Abe Lincoln brigade in Spain at almost exactly the same time. And I would think there would also be a lot of cool thrown-together armored cars and planes on every side, as well. maybe some steam-driven stuff with a motley assortment of weapons, like a converted tractor, or car or something. Just some things to build on, everyone get the idea of what I'm proposing now? (So, Ed boy, you're impressed with my creativity are you, yay, I feel all warm and fuzzy inside :D!)
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Re: The Very British Civil War-1938
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2010, 05:01:42 pm »

I'm confused by how this wouldn't just turn into another early-WW2 game because the tech is virtually the same and the Second Great War would just overwhelm the internal dispute. Or does WW2 not happen? Or does it happen but Germany gets a chance to solidify its possession of France?
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Re: The Very British Civil War-1938
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2010, 05:07:57 pm »

I'm confused by how this wouldn't just turn into another early-WW2 game because the tech is virtually the same and the Second Great War would just overwhelm the internal dispute. Or does WW2 not happen? Or does it happen but Germany gets a chance to solidify its possession of France?

WW2 depends on the outcome of this war. What if the Fascists win? The Socialists? You'll have to see.
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Re: The Very British Civil War-1938
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2010, 05:15:16 pm »

But the civil war has to be over in a very short time, or Germany would be able to take advantage of the infighting and just invade.
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