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[Retropunch]

I believe these spelling mistakes changes were done in the Shakespearean way to give deeper meaning to the word*.
Estableished was to show that not only was this established; it also had table like qualities.


(http://blog.shakespearegeek.com/2008/03/original-spelling-argument.html):

[Kaje]

I believe these spelling mistakes changes were done in the Shakespearean way to give deeper meaning to the word*.
Estableished was to show that not only was this established; it also had table like qualities.


(http://blog.shakespearegeek.com/2008/03/original-spelling-argument.html):

The fact that he then goes on to spell the word correctly, every other time it appears, goes against your theory. It simply looks like he misspelt the word initially, but forgot to edit.

[Kaje]

Rotating works, thanks guys - now, is there a key to delete objects that are incorrectly placed?

[Darkmere]

Rotating works, thanks guys - now, is there a key to delete objects that are incorrectly placed?

Aside from wiping the whole floorplan before beginning construction and starting over, there is not. Yet.

[Kaje]

Meh! Seems like a pretty fundamental thing in a game where building and adding furniture plays a key role...I've dived in, and recognise it's in 'Earliest Access' stage, but there are some really integral things that I just can't believe aren't present yet!

[inteuniso]

Well, core systems are more important than playability atm.

[Karkov]

Remember, we couldn't add things to corners for a while.  Just give it some time, it's on the list.

[Darkmere]

Yeah, it's miles ahead of where it was when I got the testing invite. Patience.

[Descan]

Being able to rotate something is secondary to being able to... you know, place it at all. Use it properly. And actually construct it in the first place.

[Darkmere]

But... you can rotate it? And place anything, and build anything (that's currently implemented). There's just not renovation yet. Since the point of this is to make sure the game doesn't blow up/crash/melt, and all. Priorities.

[Kaje]

You can rotate it, but you can't delete something you accidentally place. Or save.

[Retropunch]

You can rotate it, but you can't delete something you accidentally place. Or save.

All of these things have already been stated - I can't tell if you're deliberately trolling or just a massive kill-joy.

This is exactly the problem with early access though, even when you're as crystal clear on how early it is, people still say 'but why isn't this in yet!!'

[Kaje]

You can rotate it, but you can't delete something you accidentally place. Or save.

All of these things have already been stated - I can't tell if you're deliberately trolling or just a massive kill-joy.

This is exactly the problem with early access though, even when you're as crystal clear on how early it is, people still say 'but why isn't this in yet!!'

They have been clearly stated as not being in yet, but what I'm saying is they seem to be base-level mechanics that most games have in from a very early stage.

I'm not bemoaning 'Earliest Access' or Early Access, I have been present on a number of public and private Alpha and Beta tests, it simply baffles me how two seemingly core mechanics (they aren't flavour additions!) haven't been implemented at this stage.

[Darkmere]

From what I've gathered over at the gaslamp forums, saving was close to working fine on some test systems back before the earliest access was announced, but a loophole cropped up in a test case last-minute (windows 7 32-bit, IIRC) that exposed a flaw with the whole thing and they decided to plug that, redoing a big chunk of the save code in the process or some such. One of the coders is spending 100% of his time working on saves right now.

As for buildings... deleting the interior modules probably wouldn't be that big of a deal. Deleting the punch-through-walls exterior modules will be a Very Big Deal. I'm guessing it was a choice between doing the easy part first and leaving out the second, doing both with prolonged internal testing that would have delayed the game by quite a bit and still likely had problems on release (which they'd have to re-code), or waiting on it til the game was stable and letting a large group of voluntary testers poke at the system to save development time for other things (like making sure the game doesn't catch on fire and explode while drinking all the good beer).

[ndkid]

You can rotate it, but you can't delete something you accidentally place. Or save.

All of these things have already been stated - I can't tell if you're deliberately trolling or just a massive kill-joy.

This is exactly the problem with early access though, even when you're as crystal clear on how early it is, people still say 'but why isn't this in yet!!'

They have been clearly stated as not being in yet, but what I'm saying is they seem to be base-level mechanics that most games have in from a very early stage.

I'm not bemoaning 'Earliest Access' or Early Access, I have been present on a number of public and private Alpha and Beta tests, it simply baffles me how two seemingly core mechanics (they aren't flavour additions!) haven't been implemented at this stage.

1) If your definition of "core" is "anything that isn't flavor", we have differing definitions, though "flavor" isn't particularly well-defined, either, and prone to subjective interpretation.

2) Personally, and I assume for Retropunch, as well, you're drawing a distinction between "bemoaning 'Earliest Access'" and expressing your bafflement that we do not accept as existing.

So, what I'm saying is, it all comes down to semantics. :-)