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[Sphalerite]

METAL:IRON should work just as well as INORGANIC:IRON - the game considers METAL an acceptable substitute when specifying material.

Did you make these changes to the raws before making a new world?  Adding reactions requires a world regen.

[Sorcerer]

Anyone know why this reaction works even without reagents?
I tried two different versions of the reagent

[REACTION:MAKE_STRAW_BEDDING]
   [NAME:make straw bedding]
   [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:CUSTOM_SHIFT_B]
   [SKILL:WOODCRAFT]
   [REAGENT:straw:BLOCKS:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:STRAW]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:BED:NO_SUBTYPE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:straw:STRAW]

[REACTION:MAKE_STRAW_BASKET]
   [NAME:weave straw basket]
   [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:CUSTOM_B]
   [SKILL:WOODCRAFT]
   [REAGENT:straw:BLOCKS:PONY_STRAW:PLANT_MAT:PONY_STRAW:STRAW]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_LARGE_BASKET:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:straw:STRAW]
   

[narhiril]

METAL:IRON should work just as well as INORGANIC:IRON - the game considers METAL an acceptable substitute when specifying material.

Did you make these changes to the raws before making a new world?  Adding reactions requires a world regen.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's a leftover from an early version when metals and minerals were different objects.  When the two were merged into "inorganics," STONE and METAL were simply re-pointed to the same place as INORGANIC, so they're literally the same thing.  That's why dwarves in strange moods ask for "rock bars" - the pointer for METAL:NONE was moved to the newer "inorganic" object class and "rock" is the default name for inorganic materials, while "metal" was the default name for the old "metal" objects.

I'm also guessing that's why Toady hasn't bothered to fix it - for such a minor issue, it's a hell of a lot more complicated than just changing a string somewhere.  If he changed "rock" to "metal," you'd get dwarves asking for "metal blocks," and if he changed it to "inorganic," both would sound awkward.  In order to fix it, he'd probably need to make the mood look for the IS_METAL token within inorganic materials for bars, and it really just isn't important enough to warrant the time needed to do that when there are so many other things to do.

[darklord92]

I'm getting a complete crash on my third attempt to get my night creature working x.x

Only the original terror can abduct and convert others( and only into slaves of the terror ), there is an interaction but that turns them into a converted terror(takes over the victims body etc etc etc ). I'm getting a crash bug during world gen, i'm going to try removeing caste names i think it's trying to apply "wife" of the yellow eye terror instead of "the terrors slave"

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[CREATURE:YELLOWFERAL]
[NAME:yellow eye terror:yellow eye terrors:yellow eye terror]
   [TRANCES][ALL_ACTIVE]
   [PRONE_TO_RAGE:30]
   [FREQUENCY:1]
   [BUILDINGDESTROYER:2][AMBUSHPREDATOR][EXTRAVISION][NOCTURNAL][NIGHT_CREATURE_HUNTER][SPOUSE_CONVERTER][DIFFICULTY:1]
   [NOEXERT][NOFEAR][NOPAIN][INTELLIGENT][NO_EAT][NO_DRINK][NO_SLEEP]
   [LIKES_FIGHTING][EVIL][EQUIPS][CURIOUSBEAST_ITEM][FANCIFUL]
   [GRASSTRAMPLE:20]
   [BIOME:MOUNTAIN]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:4000]
      [SPHERE:DARKNESS]
      [SPHERE:DEFORMITY]
      [SPHERE:JEALOUSY]
      [SPHERE:REVENGE]
      [SPHERE:SUICIDE]
      [SPHERE:TORTURE]
      [SPHERE:WAR]
      [SPHERE:MISERY]
      [SPHERE:RULERSHIP]
      [SPHERE:PERSUASION]
      [SPHERE:NIGHTMARES]
[BODY:HUMANOID:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:5FINGERS:4TOES:SKULL:HUMANOID_JOINTS:MOUTH:GENERIC_TEETH_WITH_LARGE_EYE_TEETH:RIBCAGE]
   [BODYGLOSS:CLAW_HAND]
   [BODYGLOSS:CLAW_FOOT]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:CLAW:NAIL_TEMPLATE]
      [SOLID_DENSITY:8250]
      [LIQUID_DENSITY:8020]
      [MOLAR_MASS:80000]
      [IMPACT_YIELD:1080000]
      [IMPACT_FRACTURE:1080000]
      [IMPACT_ELASTICITY:600]
      [COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:1080000]
      [COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:1080000]
      [COMPRESSIVE_ELASTICITY:600]
      [TENSILE_YIELD:137000]
      [TENSILE_FRACTURE:241000]
      [TENSILE_ELASTICITY:124] 110
      [TORSION_YIELD:137000]
      [TORSION_FRACTURE:241000]
      [TORSION_ELASTICITY:200]
      [SHEAR_YIELD:137000]
      [SHEAR_FRACTURE:241000]
      [SHEAR_ELASTICITY:200]
      [BENDING_YIELD:137000]
      [BENDING_FRACTURE:241000]
      [BENDING_ELASTICITY:324]
      [MAX_EDGE:10000]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BODY_HAIR_TISSUE_LAYERS:HAIR]
   [USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:CLAW:NAIL_TEMPLATE]
   [TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:CLAW]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:TOE:CLAW]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:FINGER:CLAW]
   [SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:HEART:BY_CATEGORY:HEART]
    [PLUS_TISSUE_LAYER:SKIN:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
      [TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RIBCAGE_POSITIONS]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
   [TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
   [LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
   [HAS_NERVES]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
   [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
   [CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
   [GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
   [GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
   [PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
   [SPEECH:sergal_kills.txt]
   [MANNERISM_NOSE:nose]
   [MANNERISM_EAR:ear]
   [MANNERISM_HEAD:head]
   [MANNERISM_EYES:eyes]
   [MANNERISM_CHEEK:cheek]
   [MANNERISM_FEET:feet]
   [MANNERISM_ARMS:arms]
   [MANNERISM_TONGUE:tongue]
   [MANNERISM_LEG:leg]
   [MANNERISM_LAUGH]
   [MANNERISM_WALK]
   [MANNERISM_SIT]
   [MANNERISM_BREATH]
   [MANNERISM_POSTURE]
   [MANNERISM_STRETCH]
   [MANNERISM_EYELIDS]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:MAGIC_NATURE:2]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:SNEAK:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:PERSUASION:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:NEGOTIATION:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:JUDGING_INTENT:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:APPRAISAL:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:ORGANIZATION:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:RECORD_KEEPING:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:LYING:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:INTIMIDATION:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:CONVERSATION:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:COMEDY:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:FLATTERY:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:CONSOLE:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:PACIFY:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:TRACKING:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:KNOWLEDGE_ACQUISITION:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:CONCENTRATION:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:DISCIPLINE:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:SITUATIONAL_AWARENESS:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:SPEAKING:5]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:COORDINATION:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:TEACHING:5]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:MELEE_COMBAT:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:WRESTLING:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:BITE:10]
   [NATURAL_SKILL:DODGING:10]
      [BODY_SIZE:0:0:3000]
      [BODY_SIZE:2:0:40000]
      [BODY_SIZE:6:0:60000]
      [BABY:2]
      [GENERAL_BABY_NAME:yellow eye terror pup:yellow eye terror pups]
      [BABYNAME:yellow eye terror pup:yellow eye terror pups]
      [CHILD:6]
      [GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:young yellow eye terror:young yellow eye terror]
      [CHILDNAME:young yellow eye terror:young yellow eye terror]


   [ATTACK:SCRATCH:CHILD_TISSUE_LAYER_GROUP:BY_TYPE:STANCE:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:CLAW]
      [ATTACK_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]
      [ATTACK_VERB:scratch:scratches]
      [ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
      [ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]   
   [ATTACK:BITE:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH]
      [ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
      [ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
      [ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
      [ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
      [ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
           [SPECIALATTACK_INTERACTION:RAINS_CHANGE]


[CASTE:YELLOWFERALCASTE]
   [CASTE_NAME:yellow eye terror:yellow eye terrors:yellow eye terror]
   [CREATURE_TILE:'S'][COLOR:3:0:1]
   [MAXAGE:2000:3000]
   [SPEED:2000]
   [GRASSTRAMPLE:20]
   [POP_RATIO:100]
   [DESCRIPTION:A terrifying, savage chimera with a shark-like head and a lithe, furred body. Beware its sharp claws, combat skills and cunning! It will make short work of the weak.  This variety is not what it once used to be. Twisted and mutated from it's old form it stalks the living with an instateable hunger; Or so the children storys go...]
   [FEMALE]
   [MAXAGE:2000:3000]
   [PERSONALITY:ANXIETY:0:5:7]
   [PERSONALITY:VULNERABILITY:75:90:100]
   [PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:0:5:10]
   [PERSONALITY:EMOTIONALITY:90:95:100]
   [PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:0:3:9]
   [PERSONALITY:MODESTY:0:10:30]
   [PERSONALITY:SYMPATHY:0:20:30]
   [LAIR:SHRINE:100][LAIR_HUNTER][LAIR_HUNTER_SPEECH:lair_hunter_yelloweyeterror.txt]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10071]
      [PREFSTRING:overwelming terror]
      [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:AGILITY:2000:2100:2400:2600:2800:2900:3100]
      [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:STRENGTH:2000:2100:2400:2600:2800:2900:3100]
      [PHYS_ATT_RANGE:TOUGHNESS:700:850:1000:1150:1200:1350:1500]
      [MENT_ATT_RANGE:FOCUS:1000:1500:2000:2500:3000:3500:4000]
      [MENT_ATT_RANGE:PATIENCE:350:650:1000:1150:1250:1550:2000]
      [MENT_ATT_RANGE:ANALYTICAL_ABILITY:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]
      [MENT_ATT_RANGE:SPATIAL_SENSE:1700:2000:2100:2200:2300:2450:2600]
      [MENT_ATT_RANGE:LINGUISTIC_ABILITY:500:700:1000:1200:1400:1600:1800] 
      [MENT_ATT_RANGE:MUSICALITY:0:100:200:300:400:450:500] 
      [MENT_ATT_RANGE:KINESTHETIC_SENSE:0:100:200:300:400:450:500] 
      [MENT_ATT_RANGE:EMPATHY:100:300:500:600:800:1000:1100]
   
      [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:260:275:280:290:300:325:340]
      [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:170:175:180:185:190:195:198]
      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
            [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:IRIS_EYE_GRAY:1]
         [TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
      [SELECT_TISSUE:HAIR]
         [INSULATION:175]
      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:HAIR]
         [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:GRAY:2:BLACK:1:BLUE:1:LIGHT_BLUE:1:PALE_BLUE:1]
            [TLCM_NOUN:hair:SINGULAR]
      [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:DEEP_SET:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:ROUND_VS_NARROW:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LARGE_IRIS:25:70:90:100:110:130:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:NOSE]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:100:125:140:160:175:185:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:100:125:140:160:175:185:200]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:nose bridge:SINGULAR]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EAR]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:ears:PLURAL]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
         [APP_MOD_NOUN:ears:PLURAL]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:DEEP_VOICE:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:RASPY_VOICE:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
   [SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
      [BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
         [APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]


[CASTE:YELLOWCONVERTEDCASTE]
   [CASTE_NAME:converted yellow eye terror:converted  yellow eye terrors:converted yellow eye terror]
   [DESCRIPTION:A terrifying, savage chimera with a shark-like head and a lithe, furred body. Beware its sharp claws, combat skills and cunning! It will make short work of the weak.  This variety is not what it once used to be. Twisted and mutated from it's old form it stalks the living with an instateable hunger; Once a fearless hero, now nothing but the terror's body slave.]
   [PREFSTRING:overwelming terror]
   [CREATURE_TILE:'S'][COLOR:3:0:1]
   [LAIR:SHRINE:90][LAIR_HUNTER][LAIR_HUNTER_SPEECH:lair_hunter_yelloweyeterror.txt]
   [POP_RATIO:10]
   [FEMALE]
   [MAXAGE:2000:3000]


[CASTE:YELLOWSLAVECASTE]
   [CASTE_NAME:converted yellow eye terror slave:yellow eye terror slaves:terrors slave]
   [DESCRIPTION:A terrifying, savage chimera with a shark-like head and a lithe, furred body. Beware its sharp claws, combat skills and cunning! It will make short work of the weak.  This variety is not what it once used to be. Twisted and mutated from it's old form it stalks the living with an instateable hunger; Once a fearless hero, now nothing but the terror's body slave.]
   [PREFSTRING:overwelming terror]
   [CREATURE_TILE:'S'][COLOR:3:0:1]
   [CONVERTED_SPOUSE]
   [POP_RATIO:0]
   [CONVERTED_SPOUSE]

[Sphalerite]

Anyone know why this reaction works even without reagents?
I tried two different versions of the reagent

[REACTION:MAKE_STRAW_BEDDING]
   [NAME:make straw bedding]
   [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:CUSTOM_SHIFT_B]
   [SKILL:WOODCRAFT]
   [REAGENT:straw:BLOCKS:NONE:NONE:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:STRAW]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:BED:NO_SUBTYPE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:straw:STRAW]

[REACTION:MAKE_STRAW_BASKET]
   [NAME:weave straw basket]
   [BUILDING:CRAFTSMAN:CUSTOM_B]
   [SKILL:WOODCRAFT]
   [REAGENT:straw:BLOCKS:PONY_STRAW:PLANT_MAT:PONY_STRAW:STRAW]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:TOOL:ITEM_TOOL_LARGE_BASKET:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:straw:STRAW]

Your REAGENT line has too few tokens in it, you left out the one that indicates the quantity.  You probably want it to be:

[REAGENT:straw:1:BLOCKS:NONE:NONE:NONE]

assuming you only want it to require 1 unit of straw for the reaction.

[Sorcerer]

Doh! I keep missing such simple things... Thanks

[narhiril]

Doh! I keep missing such simple things... Thanks

If we didn't all do it at some point, there wouldn't be any posts in this thread.  ^_^

[Sorcerer]

Heh, fair enough.. It's kinda silly tho, just as i think im getting the hang of this, a new problem arises.

How would i go about producing seeds from a reaction?

I tried
   [PROCUCT:100:1:SEEDS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:wheat:SEEDS] with [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:SEEDS:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SEED] defined in the plant

I tried
   [PROCUCT:100:1:SEEDS:NONE:PONY_GRASS_WHEAT:SEED]

usually you get a generic material item out of the process but with this there's just nothing.

[narhiril]

Heh, fair enough.. It's kinda silly tho, just as i think im getting the hang of this, a new problem arises.

How would i go about producing seeds from a reaction?

I tried
   [PROCUCT:100:1:SEEDS:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:wheat:SEEDS] with [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:SEEDS:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:SEED] defined in the plant

I tried
   [PROCUCT:100:1:SEEDS:NONE:PONY_GRASS_WHEAT:SEED]

usually you get a generic material item out of the process but with this there's just nothing.

"Product" is typically spelled with a "d" in there somewhere.  ^_^

[Sorcerer]

just shoot me now...

I think i need to add a spellchecker to my NP++

[narhiril]

just shoot me now...

I think i need to add a spellchecker to my NP++

The errorlog is your friend, it tends to catch most of these little issues.  In your DF directory, look for a file named "errorlog.txt" - every time you load up a world or arena, this spits out any issues it finds in the raws.  It doesn't catch everything, but it's good about catching spelling or context errors.

[Sorcerer]

ohyeah, i try my best to keep my errorlog non-existant. It doesn't seem to catch my bad spelling tho.

Thanks for all the help btw to everyone in this thread. Mightily helpful and I've gone from having NO idea what to do with most of this, to actually making interresting stuff that works (my spelling aside) without referencing other objects now, so yay

[Sorcerer]

I've been looking around trying to find the fabled vapourstone for stone-gas, but I can't seem to find any templates. Does anyone have one handy, or give me some temperature values that will create non-scalding gas at room temperature?

[Radiant_Phoenix]

[BOILING_POINT:10040]+[MAT_FIXED_TEMP:10050] should work; 10066 or 10067 is normal body temperature.

[NW_Kohaku]

All you need is boiling point that is low.  Setting it to 10000 means that stone sublimates at 0 degrees Celsius/32 Fahrenheit.  I currently have my test fort vaporizing millions of stones at this setting, and it works just fine.

If the stones combust, they raise the temperature, but if they just vaporize at a given temperature, they don't do any harm.