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[scriver]

Yeah, those guys doesn't even have Freedom Fries

[Euld]

I wonder, if China and Russia suddenly allow gay marriage... would the US enter a freedom's race of sorts?

[Owlbread]

I wonder, if China and Russia suddenly allow gay marriage... would the US enter a freedom's race of sorts?

We're also going to get gay marriage in Scotland quite soon. I think the English and Welsh (maybe) are pushing for it too, although less enthusiastically. Now that means that there'll be gay marriage in the very country that the Americans broke free from.

[kaijyuu]

In September last year, Cardinal Philippe Barbarin, the Roman Catholic archbishop of Lyon, argued that plans to redefine the concept of marriage would open the door to incest and polygamy.

o_O

UMP MP Philippe Gosselin said the legislation was only the beginning of a trend that the French people did not want.

"Today it is marriage and adoption. Tomorrow it will be medically assisted conception and surrogate mothers."

I....don't see the problem here?

Yeah, the slippery slope arguments that the opposition is pulling out are slopes I actually hope they fall down. I don't see a problem with any of those things they're warning about.

[scriver]

I wonder, if China and Russia suddenly allow gay marriage... would the US enter a freedom's race of sorts?

I know it's not a completely serious question, but there's no chance in hell Russia ever allows gay marriage. The place is more conservative than the US. They've passed laws forbidding people from "spreading gay propaganda" (which basically amounts to doing anything remotely gay in public) and such over there.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It's not completely impossible for China, though. It all depends on how their politics swing. If the CCP gets more people who are a certain kind of communist/socialist they might see it as making people more equal, but more likely they'll reject it on the basis of being "un-Chinese".

[Scoops Novel]

It's irritating coming from other minority's, to be honest. You'd think they'd be pragmatic and perhaps think that not cultivating an inhuman label which they could be easily shoved into might be in their best interests.

[Sirus]

I don't think the Chinese are a minority in China, Novel.
 O_o;

[MonkeyHead]

I don't think the Chinese are a minority in China, Novel.
 O_o;

Or globally, taken as a proportion of world population.

[Scoops Novel]

I'm speaking of cases where minority's generally speaking are advocating such in the west.

[Euld]

Ok i'm lost XD  Could you rephrase that, Novel?  'Cause I didn't understand a word of that.

[Frumple]

I don't think the Chinese are a minority in China, Novel.
 O_o;

I... kinda' gather that there are, in fact, chinese groups that are minorities in china. The native chinese are not exactly one monolithic ethnic group (and I do believe that's notably understating things, actually), from what I understand.

Ok i'm lost XD  Could you rephrase that, Novel?  'Cause I didn't understand a word of that.

There's plenty of minority groups that shit on other minority groups, Euld, even when what would benefit the others would benefit them. You see it a lot in the states with LGBT stuff, where minority ethnic groups (usually immigrants) will be quite homophobic, or LGBT folks infighting or whatever. Good example I've personally experienced was with Florida's Amendment 7 a bit back, that had heterosexual couples campaigning for it on anti-homosexual grounds, despite the fact that the amendment hit them harder than it hit the homosexuals.

[Owlbread]

I don't think the Chinese are a minority in China, Novel.
 O_o;

I... kinda' gather that there are, in fact, chinese groups that are minorities in china. The native chinese are not exactly one monolithic ethnic group (and I do believe that's notably understating things, actually), from what I understand.

China is an incredibly diverse country with 56 ethnic groups and 292 living languages, spanning across 9 language families. The Han Chinese make up 92% of the country's population and are the Chinese people we are most familiar with (they are also the most populous ethnic group in the entire world) but even they have their own dialects and regional identities.

I mean, come on. Even if you don't go into the more obscure ethnic groups you've got to know the Tibetans, Uyghurs, Mongols, Koreans etc. Once you get past them you've got the Hui, Dongxiang, Manchus...

[Euld]

Hm... sort of like how the US has say, Hawaiians, Alaskans, then among the lower 48 you can divide the country between westerners, easterners, and southerners, and then it divides further?  Granted, probably not quite the same.  But when someone moves from one extreme part of the country to the other, they tend to stick out.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Not really, Euld. The boundaries you describe are cultural, the boundaries in China are physical. You can become American, you can never become Han Chinese if you aren't born that way.