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[kingfisher1112]

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What?

[Helgoland]

What we need is a cultural shift that stops worshiping wealth and starts socially punishing greed instead.  The law is never going to be turned against them until such a cultural shift takes place anyway.

What we need is a legal framework that channels greed into productive places.
It's already designed to do that, it just needs to do it better. Much easier than effectively brainwashing ~95% of the population.

[Angle]

A cultural shift is not brainwashing. No more so than a culture is, anyway.

[10ebbor10]

Studies have shown that you only need a convince about 10% of a group to convince all of them in a reasonable timeframe. Peer pressure is weird like that.

Don't know if it works with things as complicated as this though.

[Angle]

I terms of corporations under our current system, I think we should have the death penalty for corporations, if they screw up badly enough.

[Bauglir]

I could get behind a forced dissolution.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Studies have shown that you only need a convince about 10% of a group to convince all of them in a reasonable timeframe. Peer pressure is weird like that.

Don't know if it works with things as complicated as this though.

As I recall, it was closer to 10% being the likely explosion point for a growing idea, which explains paradigm shifts.

I terms of corporations under our current system, I think we should have the death penalty for corporations, if they screw up badly enough.

Economically dangerous. Remove corporate personhood and limited liability, and they'll mostly police themselves. You Fucked Up-level mistakes can be dealt with through nationalization of the offending corporation. This way, businesses are not suddenly removed from the economy and justice can be served.

I terms of corporations under our current system, I think we should have the death penalty for corporations, if they screw up badly enough.

Hang on, does that mean we execute all people who work for them, or we execute the company? First one's stupid, second one's... not really possible.

Sure it is. Nullify the corporate charter. No charter, no corporation.

[Guardian G.I.]

What we need is a cultural shift that stops worshiping wealth and starts socially punishing greed instead.  The law is never going to be turned against them until such a cultural shift takes place anyway.

The Soviets tried to trigger such a cultural shift. They've failed.

[SalmonGod]

What we need is a legal framework that channels greed into productive places.
It's already designed to do that, it just needs to do it better. Much easier than effectively brainwashing ~95% of the population.

Got any ideas about how to do that without putting sociopaths in control of society?

The Soviets tried to trigger such a cultural shift. They've failed.

It seems to me more like they altered the channels through which greed seeks its rewards.

If you don't believe a cultural shift can happen, then meaningful change will never happen.  We intentionally give power to the most horrible among us.  How is that not supposed to result in bad things?


Anyway, I was dropping by to quickly mention that a friend of mine was just turned down for a job.  They told him that they paid Facebook for access to his account, saw that he's not a christian, and rejected him purely on that basis.  Rather infuriating.

[Vector]

Anyway, I was dropping by to quickly mention that a friend of mine was just turned down for a job.  They told him that they paid Facebook for access to his account, saw that he's not a christian, and rejected him purely on that basis.  Rather infuriating.

I did not know that was possible.

Fuck.

[XXSockXX]

Anyway, I was dropping by to quickly mention that a friend of mine was just turned down for a job.  They told him that they paid Facebook for access to his account, saw that he's not a christian, and rejected him purely on that basis.  Rather infuriating.

That is interesting. If that is true (not that I personnally doubt your word, it just sounds weird): How did they get his Facebook account? (If I had one I wouldn't use my name and a different email than what I use for professional purposes.) How did they determine that he's "not christian", is there a checkbox for that?
It's also the first time I hear about paying Facebook for access. I have heard about US corporations demanding access from employees though. That should be illegal (it is here at least).

[Pnx]

As far as I know Facebook doesn't do that kind of thing, but there's a bunch of companies that make money harvesting people's personal information.

[XXSockXX]

Sure, but it is so easy to circumvent that. You can search my real name in all kinds of search engines and find nothing. I have multiple email adresses for different purposes. Very few people I know use their real names on Facebook and similar networks.

[Owlbread]

Anyway, I was dropping by to quickly mention that a friend of mine was just turned down for a job.  They told him that they paid Facebook for access to his account, saw that he's not a christian, and rejected him purely on that basis.  Rather infuriating.

Isn't that illegal? To reject someone on a religious basis?