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Author Topic: RedKing's East Asian Politics Megathread  (Read 25025 times)

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« Reply #330 on: May 26, 2017, 08:03:47 pm »

Of course, there's no way that the same officials involved in planting evidence would ever falsify reports. ::)

I'm disappointed, Baffler. You seemed like you'd be better than to endorse state-sanctioned murder.
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« Reply #331 on: May 26, 2017, 08:06:51 pm »

Of course, there's no way that the same officials involved in planting evidence would ever falsify reports. ::)

I'm disappointed, Baffler. You seemed like you'd be better than to endorse state-sanctioned murder.
You dun fucked up, now.

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« Reply #332 on: May 26, 2017, 08:10:14 pm »

Of course, there's no way that the same officials involved in planting evidence would ever falsify reports. ::)

I'm disappointed, Baffler. You seemed like you'd be better than to endorse state-sanctioned murder.
You dun fucked up, now.

Your point?



Edit: Lagslayer's pretty obviously trolling and I'm starting to let my temper get the better of me, so I'm going to do the smart thing here and disengage. This isn't a hill I paticularly care to die on.
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« Reply #333 on: May 26, 2017, 09:26:41 pm »

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/world/asia/philippines-police-south-korean-killing.html

its almost like giving a bunch of people the power to go around killing anyone they please inevitably becomes super corrupt. whoda thunk it?

If you think all those people they murder are guilty your kidding yourself.
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« Reply #334 on: May 27, 2017, 01:31:27 am »

I would just like to ask one question: Lagslayer, are you Pinoy and currently living in the Philippines?
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« Reply #335 on: June 02, 2017, 07:55:35 am »

Meanwhile in Marawi, government forces still have not been able to recapture the city, after nearly 9 days of battle.
Despite the use of heavy arms -the city has even been bombarded from the air-, the black IS flag still stands.
Amongst the insurgents aren't just Philippino insurgents, Chechens and Arabs have also been identified partaking in the battle.

Civilians have been exectued, and christians are reportedly being used as human shields.
Tens of thousands of inhabitants have fled the city.

Terrorism expert at  S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies in Singapore, Rohan Gunaratna says "As IS is losing more and more territory in Syria and Iraq, the organisation is spreading it's wings. One of the territories they see opportunities is south-east Asia, with the Philippines as center of gravity. Over the past few years we have seen a trend of small militant groups joining forces under the flag of IS. One of the very first people to swear allegiance to IS, when al Bagdadi proclaimed the foundation of the Caliphate, was Isnilon Hapilon (the IS leader whose attempted arrest triggered the current siege of Marawi). Last year he was appointed emir of south east Asia, by IS. Next to that, he has really close ties to Abu Sayyaf. He used to be a very important commander for that organisation. While formally, Abu Sayyaf has not yet sworn allegiance to IS, in practice, when Abu Sayyaf fighters get home, they turn on their telephones and watch IS videos".

In recent editions of Rumiya (a monthly magazine by IS published in multiple languages), actions of IS-fighters against the 'Philippino crusader army' were highlighted.
Last summer, a video was posted of heavily armed men on Mindanao. They formed a cricle, joined hands, and proclaimed allegiance to IS. A bit later, a Malaysian fighter calls upon the viewers to come to the Philippines, if they are unable to get to the Middle East. He then joins with two other fighters and decapitates 3 christians.

According to Gunaratna, the Phillipines have always been a hotspot for extremist. They came there to train mostly, but it seems that they have now really chosen Mindanao as the epicentre of battle in south east Asia. Their goal is to proclaim wilaya on the Philippines, making it a province of the Caliphate, as has happened in Libya and in Saudi Arabia. Achieving that would be a major victory for extremism

"At this point IS already controls some parts of Mindanao. The army needs to strike back fast. If IS can further expand it's territory, it will become ever harder to dismantle", Gunaratna continues, "and the Philippines cannot do that alone. But that is a sensitive issue. The West will not be very eager to assist Duterte, being horrified by the way he wages war on drugs."

http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/nu-is-terrein-verliest-in-syrie-en-irak-richt-het-zijn-vizier-op-zuidoost-azie~a4498683/
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« Reply #336 on: June 02, 2017, 08:30:11 am »

I can see China stepping in here. The way they could get neighboring nations to turn a blind eye to the South China Sea stuff is by creating a Pax China arrangement that benefits those other nations.

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« Reply #337 on: June 02, 2017, 08:32:19 am »

In other Phillippines-related news, an attack on a casino-hotel in Manila that left 37 people dead was identified as a botched robbery, not an IS terror attack as originally suspected:

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/philippine-police-say-manila-casino-gunman-killed-rule-out-terrorism
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/dozens-dead-after-gunman-torches-resorts-world-manila-casino-8905730

Also, I don't think the West, or at least the US, will hesitate to help Duterte against the IS threat, despite his war on drugs. They can't afford for IS to resurrect itself in Southeast Asia.
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« Reply #338 on: June 02, 2017, 08:51:10 am »

I can see China stepping in here. The way they could get neighboring nations to turn a blind eye to the South China Sea stuff is by creating a Pax China arrangement that benefits those other nations.

I don't think China would pay attention to it until they got directly attacked. They're big on not messing with other countries domestic affairs. Having China get involved in the Philippines would make Congress want Trump to get into action.

Also, Trump wouldn't hesitate to help the Philippines with the problem as he doesn't care about human rights.

In other Phillippines-related news, an attack on a casino-hotel in Manila that left 37 people dead was identified as a botched robbery, not an IS terror attack as originally suspected:

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/philippine-police-say-manila-casino-gunman-killed-rule-out-terrorism
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/dozens-dead-after-gunman-torches-resorts-world-manila-casino-8905730

Yeah, it was just a really, really, daring robbery (they didn't even try to kill anybody, for one) attempt which initially nobody died as a result of. Then this.

Ever the scavenging opportunists that they are, ISIS claimed it as being their doing, despite no evidence otherwise. I think Trump did them a favor by jumping the gun and calling it a terror attack.
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« Reply #339 on: June 02, 2017, 09:30:38 am »

I can see China stepping in here. The way they could get neighboring nations to turn a blind eye to the South China Sea stuff is by creating a Pax China arrangement that benefits those other nations.

I don't think China would pay attention to it until they got directly attacked. They're big on not messing with other countries domestic affairs. Having China get involved in the Philippines would make Congress want Trump to get into action.

Also, Trump wouldn't hesitate to help the Philippines with the problem as he doesn't care about human rights.

Well, if the Philippines invite China in it's different.
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« Reply #340 on: June 02, 2017, 09:38:04 am »

I can see China stepping in here. The way they could get neighboring nations to turn a blind eye to the South China Sea stuff is by creating a Pax China arrangement that benefits those other nations.

I don't think China would pay attention to it until they got directly attacked. They're big on not messing with other countries domestic affairs. Having China get involved in the Philippines would make Congress want Trump to get into action.

Also, Trump wouldn't hesitate to help the Philippines with the problem as he doesn't care about human rights.

Well, if the Philippines invite China in it's different.

I can still see congress freaking out over it though, given that the Philippines are supposed to be OUR ally, not Chinas.
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« Reply #341 on: June 02, 2017, 10:12:08 am »

Hey man, people can be allies with more than one political entity. Can even be a pretty good idea when a previous one has started to act in a way that could be uncharitably labeled "bugnuts".
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« Reply #342 on: June 10, 2017, 11:19:43 am »

As the fighting in Marawi continues, and the city is still in the hands of IS, US elite forces have arrived to advise the Philippine army. According to the Philippine army, the US troops are not joining in any fighting, they are just there in an advisory role.

Despite Duterte's earlier demand that all US forces leave the Philippines, The US administration is worried enough about the rise of a new IS caliphate that they have decided to provide support after all.

Now all we need is some Russians, and we have all the ingredients ready for a new caliphate.
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« Reply #343 on: July 15, 2017, 09:26:50 am »

Indonesia fights back against China..... using nomeclature.

Yes really, they're fighting back by renaming the northern part of their EEZ (Exclusive Economic Zone) the North Natura Sea. With China saying 'Oh come on, this is ridiculous..."

Still, it's better than fighting back with bullets.
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« Reply #344 on: July 28, 2017, 04:07:03 am »

Not sure where news about Paksitan should go. I guess I'll put it in this thread.

The High Court in Pakistan has forced the Pakistani PM Nawaz Sharif to resign, after the names of his family members were found in the Panama Papers.
In the parliamentary history of Pakistan, there has never been a PM yet that managed to sit out his full 5 year term. Sharif was getting close, he became PM in may 2013.
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