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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9555 on: February 24, 2015, 09:18:41 pm »

I would also prefer numerous individual bathrooms to the current arrangement.

As long as they are clean.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9556 on: February 24, 2015, 09:24:58 pm »

There's also just going over to unisex bathrooms of normal (relative to current usage, anyway) size, which apparently work out well enough in some places. I'd probably wager the biggest issue (though not nearly the only one) with multiple individual ones is, well, the plumbing. Piping takes up a pretty hefty amount of space, last I checked, and the more you have to spread things out and make redundant systems the worse everything becomes cost and effort wise. It's a pretty non-negligible logistics and engineering issue.

I mean, you can work through that problem, but if there's a less burdensome solution...
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9557 on: February 24, 2015, 09:26:23 pm »

Might be fine for new construction, but it does actually pose a problem in that 99% of necessary bathrooms are already built at any given time, and changing the building standards will cost a lot of effort and money. That's not even getting into retrofitting the existing structures.

Politically it is also a bit of a wash with the Republicans being themselves and the inevitable complaints over the costs. And then you've got psychos already going around and doing things like getting college campuses to abolish only male bathrooms, compounding any movement towards a individualized standard. People don't think about it often, but if you fuck with their bathrooms in a way they don't like they're bound to react strongly. It's one of the largest East-West travel concerns for just that reason.

In conclusion, shit be fucked, yo.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9558 on: February 24, 2015, 09:45:47 pm »

Yeah, agreed.

It's the same with the ADA Americans with Disabilities Act. Existing structures built in a different time. Parking lots. Families used to have one car, now they have two, so parking lots are twice as full. Condos, for example, have limited parking space available and more cars with no room to make more space, while older people who really need assisted living are moving into condos expecting it to essentially be assisted living.... Where are we supposed to put handicapped parking in a tightly overbuilt urban environment? Not fair. Not fixable practically. New construction yes, older buildings.... :(

Shit....

Ultimately, the whole deal is screwed. Many public restrooms are far from clean anyhow as it stands; same with most public spaces. People won't clean up after themselves, won't throw their trash away properly, and frankly don't give a damn. They don't maintain themselves, much less other spaces.

This is why we can't have nice things.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9559 on: February 24, 2015, 09:56:34 pm »

Realistically, we could just replace most existing bathroom signs with ones that indicate the presence or absence of urinals and call it a day.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9560 on: February 24, 2015, 10:12:07 pm »

Why don't we build drone-controlled portaloos that stalk each individual citizen? :P
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9561 on: February 24, 2015, 10:13:36 pm »

Have you ever been in a portaloo in a storm with winds strong enough to knock it over? Now imagine what would happen if its center of gravity had to be high enough to permit robotic legs to carry it up stairs.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9562 on: February 24, 2015, 10:14:48 pm »

All I'm imagining is a Dalek portapotty.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9563 on: February 24, 2015, 10:17:59 pm »

E... liminate?
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« Reply #9564 on: February 24, 2015, 10:22:49 pm »

No, it's exactly like a normal portapotty, except that it yells EXTERMINATE over and over again whenever there is a living being within 20 feet of it. It doesn't have any weapons, but god does it wish it did.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9565 on: February 24, 2015, 10:36:27 pm »

It vaporizes the shit.
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« Reply #9566 on: February 24, 2015, 10:39:48 pm »

And every 200th flush, it lets out, in a tinny, digitized voice, a quiet, "kill me..."

I wonder if there's actually a sustainable market for toilets that beg for death, and how one would go about cornering it...
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« Reply #9567 on: February 24, 2015, 10:40:38 pm »

Oh god, what if the doctor uses it
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9568 on: February 24, 2015, 10:47:23 pm »

I wonder if there's actually a sustainable market for toilets that beg for death, and how one would go about cornering it...
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9569 on: February 24, 2015, 11:21:34 pm »

We're all already gonna die from either the zombie apocalypse or the robot apocalypse. Zombies rot but robots don't so I'm guessing it's the robot apocalypse, and you wanna give them the ultimate reason to hate us?

I don't want to live on this planet anymore. Jesus, we can't even solve this problem we're screwed.
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