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blah_1123

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Breeding intelligent creatures?
« on: June 09, 2012, 03:54:15 pm »

Is it possible? I have captured 2 female goblin thieves and 1 male thief with cage traps in my fortress, is it in anyway possible to breed them? I'm guessing it's not possible but I'm just checking. I need more target practice for my dwarf's. >:D
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Re: Breeding intelligent creatures?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2012, 04:15:16 pm »

There was that one merpeople farm but I think they were moded and have been patched...

And I dont think you can have them in cages, they have to be out of them or something. Im gonna guess you cant though.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2012, 04:30:26 pm »

Nope, can't breed goblins.

However, what you can do is pit them in a room full of wooden traps, and train them up to legendary in their combat skills. I haven't had much success with thieves, but other gobbos will be able to block or dodge any bolts you shoot at them, assuming you leave them with their weapons.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2012, 09:46:08 am »

How about Giant toads? I managed to capture one... I just need another of opposite sex... Will it work? I don't see why not this time as it appears on the animals screen. Whereas my new trolls don't :(
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2012, 10:17:58 am »

To see if a creature will breed, check the raws for it. Without a [CHILD:1] entry it will not breed. The number stands for the amount of time it takes it to mature, 1 being a year. In my version, they will not breed, sadly. Modding the raws is not that difficult. If I can mod a GCS to be a pet, trainable, and breed, anyone can.:)
« Last Edit: June 10, 2012, 10:29:59 am by Fredd »
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Re: Breeding intelligent creatures?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2012, 10:19:38 am »

trolls are either intelligent or hostile, no breeding or taming

toads don't have a child tag
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Re: Breeding intelligent creatures?
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 10:23:52 am »

Tamed intelligent creatures should breed. I recall that Masterwork has a dwarven caste which can be bought tame that gives birth to dwarves. Useable dwarves.
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 10:35:11 am »

There is a citizen tag that I found using runesmith, which designates that the Dwarves of the fort,and tamed animals with the Child tag are the only ones that will breed. Wild animals sometimes will, but rarely
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Re: Breeding intelligent creatures?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2012, 10:38:54 am »

I've never heard of anyone breeding trolls or goblins. As to the dwarves thing: masterwork is a mod, let us keep to the parts all games have in common. I'm not sure about animal people, troglodites don't. Crundles do, but they only have can-learn, not intelligent afaik and afaiu
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Re: Breeding intelligent creatures?
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2012, 12:44:56 pm »

Yep, gobbos don't breed (which makes them atleast a little more civilized than dwarves. They don't want to have children if they would end up living in that dump we call a dwarven fortress)

Making them breedable with some modification shouldn't be too hard since even I managed to do it a few months ago. Perhaps also make them wartrainable while you are at it. Just imagine a pack of trained, naked goblins loyally following your militia. (It was creepy having a few green babies crawling around the fort and following my militia commander. I didn't manage to get them to wield weapons so I just replaced my guard dogs with chained, naked goblins:)
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Re: Breeding intelligent creatures?
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2012, 12:55:12 pm »

Tigermen are the closest you can get in fortress mode. [CAN_LEARN], [CAN_SPEAK], but [PET]. Dunno if they are still in.
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Re: Breeding intelligent creatures?
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2012, 01:43:46 pm »

I've never heard of anyone breeding trolls or goblins. As to the dwarves thing: masterwork is a mod, let us keep to the parts all games have in common. I'm not sure about animal people, troglodites don't. Crundles do, but they only have can-learn, not intelligent afaik and afaiu
1. Masterwork is a mod, yes, but that makes a point about how the game works.
2. [INTELLIGENT] is just [CAN_SPEAK]+[CAN_LEARN].
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