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Author Topic: SCIENCE, Gravitational waves, and the whole LIGO OST!  (Read 489857 times)

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« Reply #540 on: July 01, 2013, 03:36:09 am »

I'm pretty sure Vostok is a drill station in Antartica.

Anyway, no one want a hundred-miles interferometer? This kind of baby would allow us to take pictures of near exoplanets. Definitely my #1 space mission, even before melting through Europa's ice cap.
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« Reply #541 on: July 01, 2013, 05:54:41 am »

Sadly both Darwin and the TPF are dead projects and nothing much like them is likely until there is a massive spike in global space science funding.
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« Reply #542 on: July 01, 2013, 08:21:54 am »

I'm pretty sure Vostok is a drill station in Antartica.
As well as a Sovjet rocket program. The first manned program, IIRC
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« Reply #543 on: July 01, 2013, 01:43:51 pm »

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**Current plan to get through is a nuclear drill. Ie, a controlled meltdown.
I bet the hypothetical European lifeforms will love that...
For science. Charles Darwin collected his specimens with poison, traps and shooting. It's a less than elegant method, but it is cheap.

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« Reply #544 on: July 01, 2013, 03:11:16 pm »

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**Current plan to get through is a nuclear drill. Ie, a controlled meltdown.
I bet the hypothetical European lifeforms will love that...
For science. Charles Darwin collected his specimens with poison, traps and shooting. It's a less than elegant method, but it is cheap.
And easier than carrying 20 kilometers of drill to Europa.

The odds of watching celestial overlords are too high to risk that, in my opinion.
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« Reply #545 on: July 01, 2013, 03:15:47 pm »

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« Reply #547 on: July 01, 2013, 03:22:41 pm »

Even if its only 20km of ice on Europa (would be 50 for all we know), would be around twice the deepest hole we ever dug, and we had a large supply dump ("Earth") and Russians.

Did anyone ever try the Europa method of digging in the Antartic? Also, Just getting the reactor, rover and cable all the way there will be hard.
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« Reply #548 on: July 01, 2013, 03:33:54 pm »

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« Reply #549 on: July 01, 2013, 03:53:53 pm »

Even if its only 20km of ice on Europa (would be 50 for all we know), would be around twice the deepest hole we ever dug, and we had a large supply dump ("Earth") and Russians.

Did anyone ever try the Europa method of digging in the Antartic? Also, Just getting the reactor, rover and cable all the way there will be hard.
I'm afraid you won't get away with an environmental impact statement with that one. I mean, it's rather polluting.
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« Reply #550 on: July 01, 2013, 03:55:22 pm »

Blowing a hole in Antarctica is almost certainly a bad idea.
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« Reply #551 on: July 01, 2013, 03:58:05 pm »

Well, yeah. I'd rather us not go through the Second Impact, thanks.
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« Reply #552 on: July 01, 2013, 04:09:45 pm »

Why is it a bad idea? We're digging in Antartica all the time.
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« Reply #553 on: July 01, 2013, 04:11:26 pm »

Digging is one thing, a thermonuclear detonation within the ice is quite another. The heat and the force of it could and likely would effect an extremely wide area. Antarctica already experiences icequakes on a regular basis.
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« Reply #554 on: July 01, 2013, 04:14:35 pm »

It's not a thermonuclear detonation. Nuclear reactor =/= bomb. It's a nuclear heating element. Hell, at worst it'll make a hole less than 2 meters across.
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