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Flying Dice

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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2925 on: November 07, 2012, 10:11:34 pm »

Hey, anything that provides impetus for getting rid of the electoral college is at least partially a good thing.
Frankly, considering how it's favoring Dems right now, I disagree. If the lines have moved further to the right come 2016, I'll reconsider. Otherwise, I think I'd keep as is.
It's an anachronism. Just because it happens to favor the less-bad politicians at the moment doesn't mean it's a good thing. That aside, I'm not sure how it has helped the Democrats? Obama won the popular vote, as did Gore.

I think he just wants to be known by a shtick. :I
That's what Necro got banned for. Just sayin'.
Necro was banned for... other things. Let's drop this line of thought.
Not to my recollection. Paraphrasing the note next to his final ban, "Something something been warned repeatedly about spamming" and so forth.

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We need to elect a grizzly bear as POTUS.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2926 on: November 07, 2012, 10:13:58 pm »

Hey, anything that provides impetus for getting rid of the electoral college is at least partially a good thing.
Frankly, considering how it's favoring Dems right now, I disagree. If the lines have moved further to the right come 2016, I'll reconsider. Otherwise, I think I'd keep as is.
It's an anachronism. Just because it happens to favor the less-bad politicians at the moment doesn't mean it's a good thing. That aside, I'm not sure how it has helped the Democrats? Obama won the popular vote, as did Gore.

We need to elect a grizzly bear as POTUS.
Ehh, Sarah Palin had her chance. As well as Gingrich.

Obama SWEEPED the swingstates. He was almost tied withromney in the popular, but won 3 to 2. As Latino population's increase, we may see even hard red states like texas change.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2927 on: November 07, 2012, 10:14:17 pm »

Hey, anything that provides impetus for getting rid of the electoral college is at least partially a good thing.
Frankly, considering how it's favoring Dems right now, I disagree. If the lines have moved further to the right come 2016, I'll reconsider. Otherwise, I think I'd keep as is.
It's an anachronism. Just because it happens to favor the less-bad politicians at the moment doesn't mean it's a good thing. That aside, I'm not sure how it has helped the Democrats? Obama won the popular vote, as did Gore.

I think he just wants to be known by a shtick. :I
That's what Necro got banned for. Just sayin'.
Necro was banned for... other things. Let's drop this line of thought.
Not to my recollection. Paraphrasing the note next to his final ban, "Something something been warned repeatedly about spamming" and so forth.

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We need to elect a grizzly bear as POTUS.
We already did that. Theodore Roosevelt.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2928 on: November 07, 2012, 10:22:41 pm »

Hey, anything that provides impetus for getting rid of the electoral college is at least partially a good thing.
Frankly, considering how it's favoring Dems right now, I disagree. If the lines have moved further to the right come 2016, I'll reconsider. Otherwise, I think I'd keep as is.
It's an anachronism. Just because it happens to favor the less-bad politicians at the moment doesn't mean it's a good thing. That aside, I'm not sure how it has helped the Democrats? Obama won the popular vote, as did Gore.

I think he just wants to be known by a shtick. :I
That's what Necro got banned for. Just sayin'.
Necro was banned for... other things. Let's drop this line of thought.
Not to my recollection. Paraphrasing the note next to his final ban, "Something something been warned repeatedly about spamming" and so forth.

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We need to elect a grizzly bear as POTUS.
We already did that. Theodore Roosevelt.
The grizzly was only his sparring partner. Teddy needed an easy warmup in the morning before moving on to imperialism and trust-busting in the afternoon followed by a sedate mid-river moose ride in the evening.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2929 on: November 07, 2012, 10:33:00 pm »

As Latino population's increase, we may see even hard red states like texas change.

As a Texan, may I say this seems entirely possible give or take another couple years or so. Depends on the rate of immigration, illegal or no.

Personally, I'd be perfectly ok with electing a president willing to see every American family know the value of dental care and supply us with pony power to fight off the zombies.

..In fact, I say we reanimate Teddy Roosevelt and nudge his zombie self off in the direction of the White House and see what happens.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2930 on: November 08, 2012, 12:33:42 am »

I would opt for socialism. Socialist healthcare, at the very least.

The thing about any sort of socialist/social democracy/whatever system is that it requires a certain type of people to work with. For instance, the Nordics have really advanced social security structures, but if that same structure was to be cut & pasted to other countries, it wouldn't work as well.

..In fact, I say we reanimate Teddy Roosevelt and nudge his zombie self off in the direction of the White House and see what happens.

It involves zombies and Teddy Roosevelt. I support this plan.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2931 on: November 08, 2012, 11:41:27 am »

Anything involving Theodore Roosevelt (Or really any Roosevelt, the whole family is badass, but mostly Teddy) has my vote. Unless it's "Kill Teddy Roosevelt", which is silly.

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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2932 on: November 08, 2012, 11:46:34 am »

Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Teddy Roosevelt Hyde Park wgah'nagl fhtagn.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2933 on: November 08, 2012, 11:59:09 am »

Hey, anything that provides impetus for getting rid of the electoral college is at least partially a good thing.
Frankly, considering how it's favoring Dems right now, I disagree. If the lines have moved further to the right come 2016, I'll reconsider. Otherwise, I think I'd keep as is.
It's an anachronism. Just because it happens to favor the less-bad politicians at the moment doesn't mean it's a good thing. That aside, I'm not sure how it has helped the Democrats? Obama won the popular vote, as did Gore.

The electoral college isn't the problems with those things. It's the fact that most states use a first past the post system to divide their electors. In fact, replacing the entire system with a popular vote will just serve to enforce the two party system. Instead, scrapping the FPTP voting insides states and allowing the electors of one party to aid another(on a party basis, not on a per person basis) might be the easiest way to discourage this. This will encourage the influence of Independent parties, as they can collaborate and form a presidential coalition.

However, it might also cause a system where the minority rules. (For example: DEm: 49% of seats, R: 49% Ind:2%) The indepents get to decide who becomes Presidents, and therefore can ask for absurd demands, and have far more power than the amount of votes should give them.

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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2934 on: November 08, 2012, 12:31:35 pm »

Hey, anything that provides impetus for getting rid of the electoral college is at least partially a good thing.
Frankly, considering how it's favoring Dems right now, I disagree. If the lines have moved further to the right come 2016, I'll reconsider. Otherwise, I think I'd keep as is.
It's an anachronism. Just because it happens to favor the less-bad politicians at the moment doesn't mean it's a good thing. That aside, I'm not sure how it has helped the Democrats? Obama won the popular vote, as did Gore.

The electoral college isn't the problems with those things. It's the fact that most states use a first past the post system to divide their electors. In fact, replacing the entire system with a popular vote will just serve to enforce the two party system. Instead, scrapping the FPTP voting insides states and allowing the electors of one party to aid another(on a party basis, not on a per person basis) might be the easiest way to discourage this. This will encourage the influence of Independent parties, as they can collaborate and form a presidential coalition.

However, it might also cause a system where the minority rules. (For example: DEm: 49% of seats, R: 49% Ind:2%) The indepents get to decide who becomes Presidents, and therefore can ask for absurd demands, and have far more power than the amount of votes should give them.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2935 on: November 08, 2012, 12:37:10 pm »

And CCPgrey. He made some awesome videos about voting systems.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2936 on: November 08, 2012, 12:38:36 pm »

I'd link to CGP Grey, but that'd be the tenth time somebody did that this week.

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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #2937 on: November 08, 2012, 12:40:20 pm »

I'd link to CGP Grey, but that'd be the tenth time somebody Miauw did that this week.

FTFY
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they wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the raving confessions of a mass murdering cannibal from a recipe to bake a pie.
Knowing Belgium, everyone will vote for themselves out of mistrust for anyone else, and some kind of weird direct democracy coalition will need to be formed from 11 million or so individuals.

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« Reply #2938 on: November 08, 2012, 12:50:54 pm »

I'd link to CGP Grey, but that'd be the tenth time somebody Miauw did that this week.

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« Reply #2939 on: November 08, 2012, 01:01:40 pm »

No easy way to search that.

Searching CCPgrey has two posts of me.
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they wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the raving confessions of a mass murdering cannibal from a recipe to bake a pie.
Knowing Belgium, everyone will vote for themselves out of mistrust for anyone else, and some kind of weird direct democracy coalition will need to be formed from 11 million or so individuals.
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