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Consider this: Gregor and Derick have a duel with same quality weapons (Iron, for example) and in neutral conditions (no terrain, supports and so on). On whom you would bet?

Derick the Swordmaster of Doom
Gregor the Tanky Stab-Sentinel

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« Reply #12255 on: September 02, 2013, 02:08:34 pm »

deriiick trade Riven for a concotion and save sal's laaahfe

We still need to think both options through, I personally think that getting people up again will just delay the inevitable. There's still 7 enemies up, and while we would have 8 PCs up, that might not be the case by the next turn, and we'll also have 3 PCs at one tick, along with the possibility Seyena will be shot and Matilda dying (man that was a lucky break last turn).

I'll look into it further.

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« Reply #12256 on: September 02, 2013, 02:19:02 pm »

Once I take my turn, there will only be 6 enemies up. We'll actually outnumber them and can begin to turn the tide.

Because Gregor will autohit that "Elite" Lancer for more than enough damage to kill him, and removing a dangerous Killer Weapon from the map will be very helpful.
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« Reply #12257 on: September 02, 2013, 02:29:21 pm »

Ugh, this is a tough decision.

I need two questions answered to really decide.
1) Will killing Arvis end the chapter? The games would give us this answer in the form of an objective- Haspen should give us a straight answer too.
2) Who has healing items and how many uses do they have left? Something tells me the use counts on the character sheets aren't updated.

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« Reply #12258 on: September 02, 2013, 02:32:38 pm »

Ugh, this is a tough decision.

I need two questions answered to really decide.
1) Will killing Arvis end the chapter? The games would give us this answer in the form of an objective- Haspen should give us a straight answer too.
2) Who has healing items and how many uses do they have left? Something tells me the use counts on the character sheets aren't updated.

Killing Arvis will end the chapter v:

2) Who has healing items and how many uses do they have left? Something tells me the use counts on the character sheets aren't updated.

Oi, don'tcha diss me! I update them right away after use >:V
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« Reply #12259 on: September 02, 2013, 02:34:32 pm »

2) Who has healing items and how many uses do they have left? Something tells me the use counts on the character sheets aren't updated.

Oi, don'tcha diss me! I update them right away after use >:V

Sorry, sorry, just panicking and being thorough :-\

But dangit, both strategies are still viable.

EDIT: We can still save a number of people if Derick does fail, the only sure casualty in that case is Edwin. So it comes down to this- do we bet Edwin's life on Derick being able to hit twice at an 80% hit rate and not dying to a 27% crit, or do we wager on another round of healing and evading? And with our medical supplies rapidly dwindling, I'm not sure we would be able to pull another round off.
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« Reply #12260 on: September 02, 2013, 02:53:02 pm »

Part of me wants to hold out for another turn. If we get people up, the enemy's attacks will have to be spread out just a little more, and even if the poor SoBs do get hit at least their death counters will reset. If the enemy attacks miss, they (hopefully) get countered, eroding the odds against us just a little more.

On the other hand, we'll really be hurting for healing items after this battle (especially now that the shop has been wrecked, and honestly I don't see how we could have saved any of the buildings), and if things go wrong we'll be even worse off. Maybe Derick and Riven should both go after Armin - the two of them together should be able to deal enough damage even if Armin survives the first strike, right?
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« Reply #12261 on: September 02, 2013, 02:54:20 pm »

I vote we pull 4 people up this turn, since the four we'd be pulling up are particularly useful strategically, then slamming Arvis.
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« Reply #12262 on: September 02, 2013, 02:55:50 pm »

Maybe Derick and Riven should both go after Armin - the two of them together should be able to deal enough damage even if Armin survives the first strike, right?

Sadly, Riven only deals barely less than enough damage to handle him. Arvis has 40 health, and one hit from Derick will bring him down to 19. Riven deals 18 damage with Nosferatu. Only Derick can take down Arvis at this rate with a double.

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« Reply #12263 on: September 02, 2013, 02:57:52 pm »

Maybe Derick and Riven should both go after Armin - the two of them together should be able to deal enough damage even if Armin survives the first strike, right?

Sadly, Riven only deals barely less than enough damage to handle him. Arvis has 40 health, and one hit from Derick will bring him down to 19. Riven deals 18 damage with Nosferatu. Only Derick can take down Arvis at this rate with a double.
Dammit. I don't like going up against Killer weapons in such dire circumstances. I guess healing is best this turn.

Figure I should ask now: is there ANYTHING more useful for Gregor to do at the moment other than killing one of the enemies? Hell he'll pick up one of the wounded if that will be more useful, but since he's run out of healing items there isn't much else he can do.
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« Reply #12264 on: September 02, 2013, 02:59:55 pm »

Figure I should ask now: is there ANYTHING more useful for Gregor to do at the moment other than killing one of the enemies? Hell he'll pick up one of the wounded if that will be more useful, but since he's run out of healing items there isn't much else he can do.

According to your charsheet, Gregor still has one vulnerary.

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« Reply #12265 on: September 02, 2013, 03:01:36 pm »

...Haspen, if you tell me that's an error I will hate you forever. I can easily get Alexander or someone else up this turn if Crimson is right.
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« Reply #12266 on: September 02, 2013, 03:05:33 pm »

...Haspen, if you tell me that's an error I will hate you forever. I can easily get Alexander or someone else up this turn if Crimson is right.

Researchin' v:
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« Reply #12267 on: September 02, 2013, 03:07:08 pm »

Just for reference. Here's the plans as I understand them.

The Kill Arvis Plan:
Seyena->11,9->Heal Derick
Derick->12,10->80% Hit Arvis->24%Chance To Cancel Arvis OR Avoid 27% Crit->80% Hit Arvis->Arvis Dies
Chapter Ends->Party Time
If Killing Arvis Fails:
Riven->Concoction to Alex
Gregor->11,8->Vulnerary Sal OR Trade Riven for Concoction and use that on Sal
Turn Continues->Edwin dies :(

The Continue Heal Dancing Plan:
Seyena->7,7->Heal Edwin
Riven->Concoction Alex
Derick->Trade Concoction from Riven->Concoction Sal
Gregor->Vulnerary Someone OR Kill Elite Lancer
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« Reply #12268 on: September 02, 2013, 03:11:05 pm »

After researchin' that vulnerary, I've come to conclusion that it indeed have 1 use left.

Gawdammit.
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« Reply #12269 on: September 02, 2013, 03:26:03 pm »

Tantallos have one vulnerary left too I guess.
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