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How many want to keep this up in the next release?

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Urdothor

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3330 on: February 04, 2014, 03:26:24 am »

I no longer feel quite as bad.
Now I just feel bad for my creations...
Ones insides shouldnt melt.
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Urdothor

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3331 on: February 04, 2014, 07:42:49 pm »

I'm considering looking at the instrument mod to see how they can be played.

Would be a cool idea.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2014, 07:45:31 pm by Urdothor »
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Urdothor

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« Reply #3332 on: February 05, 2014, 09:47:48 pm »

I guess its time to start deciding what creatures can and cant climb since it appears that will be decided by a new tag.
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WillowLuman

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« Reply #3333 on: February 05, 2014, 09:58:13 pm »

Smaller cephalopods will climb. I'm not sure about the larger ones. Probably not.
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Urdothor

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3334 on: February 05, 2014, 10:26:43 pm »

I'm just saying, but climbing ANYTHING on this mod is going to be terrifying
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Dwarf4Explosives

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3335 on: February 06, 2014, 03:35:21 am »

I might just abandon the ridiculous speed of the Screamers (so as to nerf that down to halfling or worse) and give them great climbing ability; it should help balance them a bit. Makes some sense, because, while they're pterosaur-inspired, the small ones were better at tree-climbing.

Should halflings be capable of climbing? Or elves, for that matter?
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3336 on: February 06, 2014, 10:20:28 am »

If it has hands, I think it climbing should be a given. Insects except for water striders and pack beetles should be able to scale walls, as well.
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Generally, when one is conducting an experiment, it is worth noting that the observers went insane, killed each other, and then rose from the dead.
It's like DF inhaled a peanut.

Dwarf4Explosives

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« Reply #3337 on: February 06, 2014, 10:31:15 am »

Really? Some creatures are great at climbing, while others just don't have the right limb build for it. Larger pterosaurs were great at galloping, reaching impressive speeds (quite a few were land predators, rather than aerial ones) and pathetic at climbing, yet their ancestors were great at climbing, but quite slow on flat terrain.

What about bears? Or dragons? Those have hands or [GRASP]-ing appendages, but seem far too heavy for normal climbing.

What typesof multi-tile trees this game will have is another thing we should think about. I think a tree, with outer branches made of permanently ice-cold material, with an inner part so hot that it can set stuff on fire, would be interesting, but we'll have to wait for the release before we can see how the new trees work.
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And yet another bit of proof that RNG is toying with us. We do 1984, it does animal farm
...why do your hydras have two more heads than mine? 
Does that mean male hydras... oh god dammit.

Urdothor

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3338 on: February 06, 2014, 02:03:48 pm »

Sonethings without graspers should be able to climb too. Like slugs
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StLeibowitz

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« Reply #3339 on: February 06, 2014, 06:17:43 pm »

Really? Some creatures are great at climbing, while others just don't have the right limb build for it. Larger pterosaurs were great at galloping, reaching impressive speeds (quite a few were land predators, rather than aerial ones) and pathetic at climbing, yet their ancestors were great at climbing, but quite slow on flat terrain.

What about bears? Or dragons? Those have hands or [GRASP]-ing appendages, but seem far too heavy for normal climbing.

What typesof multi-tile trees this game will have is another thing we should think about. I think a tree, with outer branches made of permanently ice-cold material, with an inner part so hot that it can set stuff on fire, would be interesting, but we'll have to wait for the release before we can see how the new trees work.

Sure, some creatures are better than others at climbing, but the ability should probably be there if it has hands - not any generic [GRASP] part, but an actual hand, like elves or halflings or formics. Exceptions can be made for handed critters that have...questionable anatomies, but it works as a rule of thumb.

Also, on bears climbing:
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Stranger things have happened :)

Depending on the size of the dragon, I could see them climbing as well. Or depending on the size of the tree, really - who's to say a great lizard wouldn't roost in an eighty-feet-in-diameter, branches-thicker-around-than-a-grain-silo wood behemoth?

Sonethings without graspers should be able to climb too. Like slugs

Eugh, slugs...they should climb too, yeah. I kinda wish I'd made my [IMMOLATE] giant fire-slug now.
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Generally, when one is conducting an experiment, it is worth noting that the observers went insane, killed each other, and then rose from the dead.
It's like DF inhaled a peanut.

Urdothor

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3340 on: February 06, 2014, 06:24:44 pm »

Dirigible antelope should definitely not climb.
Or the golden elephant thingies...

Hooves and elephant feet.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2014, 06:28:33 pm by Urdothor »
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« Reply #3341 on: February 06, 2014, 08:18:05 pm »

Dirigible antelope don't need to climb, though, they can float.
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« Reply #3342 on: February 06, 2014, 09:15:34 pm »

Until they cant float anymore.

Actually, I very humerously caused the drowning of one in adventure mode.
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Urdothor

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« Reply #3343 on: February 06, 2014, 09:52:38 pm »

Quick question.
In adventure mode how often do you all see water creatures?
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Urdothor

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« Reply #3344 on: February 07, 2014, 11:10:10 pm »

I'm wondering if I can make instruments produce some kinda of syndrome or something that improves peoples happiness or etc.
Or kills them.
Either way.

Edit: Nope.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2014, 11:15:06 pm by Urdothor »
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