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[azmodean]

See, the problem with that argument is that you need to actually be making a game.

Someone who can make that argument? Steve Walmsley.

Thanks for playing.

[n9103]

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original mechanic got overhauled, game is shit!¹

¹: See every game ever with fans that don't like the development direction.
Worse here though, because here they're free to take a fork and do whatever they want, but would rather make excuses about why them complaining, and them accepting the situation aren't the same.

I'm not a fan of DDA really. It's been a loong time since I played it, but I'm really tired of how this thread keeps getting derailed by a group of folks that do exactly the above.

[AzyWng]

Jesus, man. I was just asking a few questions is all.

Personally, I don't much like the hostility myself, though. Haven't played DDA in a while, though, so I don't exactly have an opinion on the changes that have happened (especially since I can't even survive long enough for rotting food to be a problem).

[Gentlefish]

I mean I personally am excited for this butchery change. I think it's a step towards the better! It's more complicated but it's more complicated in a way that lets you get more the more you put into it.

[Random_Dragon]

Did you forget the part where it said it increases yield by a significant amount, giving you incentive to full-butcher and not just field-clean?

I found about this afterward, but this has been replaced by a new problem:

You need a full butcher's setup to get bones, skin, fat, sinew, feathers, etc. Now butchery in the field magics your knife through the skin, debones it, etc while somehow making all of that shit vanish.

[forsaken1111]

The field dress system makes some sense to me. Hunting was barely viable before as it was so difficult to move a heavy corpse any distance.

[Egan_BW]

From the looks of that, I'd request the ability to full-butcher things in the field with a lower yield, so that you can get things like bones and skins without having a whole base set up with tools. It's likely that an early game player will want some bones to work with but will not have yet found things like a butcher rack.

[Gentlefish]

Did you forget the part where it said it increases yield by a significant amount, giving you incentive to full-butcher and not just field-clean?

I found about this afterward, but this has been replaced by a new problem:

You need a full butcher's setup to get bones, skin, fat, sinew, feathers, etc. Now butchery in the field magics your knife through the skin, debones it, etc while somehow making all of that shit vanish.

Or it's considered wasted due to the makeshift nature of your butchering.

[duckman]

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original mechanic got overhauled, game is shit!¹

¹: See every game ever with fans that don't like the development direction.
Worse here though, because here they're free to take a fork and do whatever they want, but would rather make excuses about why them complaining, and them accepting the situation aren't the same.

I'm not a fan of DDA really. It's been a loong time since I played it, but I'm really tired of how this thread keeps getting derailed by a group of folks that do exactly the above.

They left this thread to fester for a bit too long before coming back a few month ago, so what did you expect?

[Random_Dragon]

Or it's considered wasted due to the makeshift nature of your butchering.

You should still have SOME way to get skin and bones (not to mention sinew, fat, feathers...) without plopping down a workshop every time, or dragging the corpse back to base. See again, tedium.

[Broseph Stalin]

Or it's considered wasted due to the makeshift nature of your butchering.

How is it wasted? I get that skin can be rendered unsuitable for tanning by hacking up a corpse and fair play maybe I was so undisciplined the sinew was rendered unusable but where did the bones go? Did the makeshift butchery mash them to bits that can no longer be used to make charcoal or glue? Where's the fat? Has my inexpert butchering caused it to become irrecoverably fused to the meat? Did I hastily dice each individual feather?

[duckman]

Speaking of bones, do fish still give usable bones for whatever reason? I mean, besides the bone needle and skewer recipes, what can you actually make out of these?

[Random_Dragon]

Speaking of bones, do fish still give usable bones for whatever reason? I mean, besides the bone needle and skewer recipes, what can you actually make out of these?

Bone meal (for a few random uses), bone armor, aspic, bone broth, fodder for charcoal...

[Iceblaster]

Not played with the new butchery thing, but honestly it does sound like complaining for the sake of complaining. CDAA has made shitty decisions, but I feel this isn't one of those.

[Random_Dragon]

Not played with the new butchery thing, but honestly it does sound like complaining for the sake of complaining. CDAA has made shitty decisions, but I feel this isn't one of those.

Reason for it is, as far as can be discerned, you now need a specific construction to get anything besides meat. No sinew, no skin, no (or evidently, few) bones, no fat. Which is severely hindering to nomadic characters, bogs down crafting, and isn't very realistic.