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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #60 on: October 21, 2016, 12:33:09 pm »

I foresee heat damage issues if this tablet-sized thing is being accelerated whenever its on the dock.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #61 on: October 21, 2016, 12:35:41 pm »

I foresee heat damage issues if this tablet-sized thing is being accelerated whenever its on the dock.
Heat damage issues while accelerated on the dock....?

I... struggle to come up with either a reason as to why, or a method as to how. Someone taking it up to the ISS and forgetting that Newton's 3rd is a thing regardless the size of fan?
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2016, 12:38:55 pm »

The dock is this double-sided confining space, though. Seems like you could have bad heat spots like that.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #63 on: October 21, 2016, 02:00:41 pm »

Fuck this.
I really expected more
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #64 on: October 21, 2016, 02:15:13 pm »

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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #65 on: October 21, 2016, 02:18:29 pm »

Common I can guage its size.
I guess I over hyped the daisy chain/cpu boosting dock.
Still getting it for Zelda though cause that looks awesome
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #66 on: October 21, 2016, 02:24:21 pm »

Maybe more in the way of innovation? I mean, PS4/Vita already have essentially the same thing going on, where you can play console games on your portable unit. Switch is a bit more flashy, with a few little gimmicks, but the end result is essentially the same thing. Nintendo have made innovative mechanics the main thing that sets them apart from the competition, and Switch just doesn't innovate enough to justify the buildup they've been putting out.

Honestly, even if they announce specifications, and it turns out that this unit has unprecedented battery life, computing power, and screen resolution, they would still have to pair it with an exceptionally affordable purchase price before it even starts to look compelling.

Aside from all that, VR seems to be the next big thing in video games, and I've not seen any mention of the Switch supporting it in any form. By the time Switch comes out it may already be viewed as obsolete technology.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #67 on: October 21, 2016, 02:26:21 pm »

VR seems to be the next big thing in video games
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« Reply #68 on: October 21, 2016, 02:27:30 pm »

Maybe more in the way of innovation? I mean, PS4/Vita already have essentially the same thing going on, where you can play console games on your portable unit. Switch is a bit more flashy, with a few little gimmicks, but the end result is essentially the same thing. Nintendo have made innovative mechanics the main thing that sets them apart from the competition, and Switch just doesn't innovate enough to justify the buildup they've been putting out.

Honestly, even if they announce specifications, and it turns out that this unit has unprecedented battery life, computing power, and screen resolution, they would still have to pair it with an exceptionally affordable purchase price before it even starts to look compelling.

Aside from all that, VR seems to be the next big thing in video games, and I've not seen any mention of the Switch supporting it in any form. By the time Switch comes out it may already be viewed as obsolete technology.

The vita has been a flop from day one, and VR isn't the future.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #69 on: October 21, 2016, 02:42:33 pm »

The dock is this double-sided confining space, though. Seems like you could have bad heat spots like that.

I don't think the dock itself will be much of a factor.  It'll be the TDP of the chip at full power, the size of the heatsink, and air throughput.  (maybe with a side order of "where are the vents, and how big")  Compared to the stuff heatsinks are made of, the casing has a hilariously low thermal conductivity; if that tiny margin makes a difference, you're probably already screwed on the heat issue.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #70 on: October 21, 2016, 02:51:46 pm »

Maybe more in the way of innovation? I mean, PS4/Vita already have essentially the same thing going on, where you can play console games on your portable unit. Switch is a bit more flashy, with a few little gimmicks, but the end result is essentially the same thing. Nintendo have made innovative mechanics the main thing that sets them apart from the competition, and Switch just doesn't innovate enough to justify the buildup they've been putting out.
Well... not quite. PS4/Vita are two separate consoles. They run different game copies, you just transfer save data from one to the other, if anything that is the gimmick. There is no gimmick in a powerful portable console. The detachable controllers? Gimmick, but one that you can completely ignore if you so desire. And face it, nobody has ever done a combo detachable/split controller before. Just a detachable controller, yes, a number of those for phones and tablets. But not one you can use as two mini joypads.

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Honestly, even if they announce specifications, and it turns out that this unit has unprecedented battery life, computing power, and screen resolution, they would still have to pair it with an exceptionally affordable purchase price before it even starts to look compelling.
A powerful tablet can run you way higher than the current estimate on the price of the Switch. It's compelling merely because it's packing the power of a gaming tablet into an affordable price range. The tablet I'm using now cost nearly a grand when it was released, and it can only just run Skyrim. Whether or not it gets that Skyrim game, a console that small and powerful for a third of that price is quite compelling.

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Aside from all that, VR seems to be the next big thing in video games, and I've not seen any mention of the Switch supporting it in any form. By the time Switch comes out it may already be viewed as obsolete technology.
VR is failing. PC VR is, at least. Console VR is only just taking off, but it severely lacks proper games. Mobile VR is the thing that's on the rise, and guess what - without its wireless controllers, the Switch is a lot like a large smartphone. Remember the rumors that Nintendo might be delaying NX because it is looking into VR options? I'm betting that's the next thing they're going to be working on.

900p (rumored) screen, more power than any smartphone, wireless single-hand akimbo controllers, instant wireless LAN, and a company known for its gleeful abuse of awesome gimmicky concepts and motion controls. Switch VR is coming, mark my words.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #71 on: October 21, 2016, 02:54:13 pm »

VR's biggest issue that it has a near impossible time overcoming is two things

1) It is expensive
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2) It requires set up
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #72 on: October 21, 2016, 02:59:15 pm »

VR's biggest issue that it has a near impossible time overcoming is two things

1) It is expensive
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2) It requires set up
So in Switch's case: It barely costs more than the console itself (you do need the headgear), and setup consists of removing the joy-cons from the main body and slotting the main body into the headgear. Assuming the joy-cons are, or will be, motion-enabled like WiiMotes, and I see few reasons why they couldn't be, at least as an addon or replacement unit.

Just inferring from that theoretical design: unless they invent the unholy child of GPS and Bluetooth using multiple receivers on the headgear to track pings from the controllers, hand tracking will probably be barely a thing. Therefore, you might see a lot of third-person view games, where you control the view with your head, and control the character's movements with the controls, without first-person immersion that more serious VR is going for.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #73 on: October 21, 2016, 03:07:33 pm »

I mean if nintendo allowed utility apps and some sort of a store, the Switch could actually go for the tablet market but unless they made its OS somehow Android compatible, it'd probably flop pretty hard.

But we are talking about Nintendo so I'm not expecting utility apps to even exist apart from maybe a few pre-installed essentials like a calendar.

Anyways, it looks interesting and something I might get like half a year to a year down the line when it's cheaper. (It's rumored to be quite cheap but I'm still not made of money dontcherknow)
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #74 on: October 21, 2016, 03:08:32 pm »

I mean if nintendo allowed utility apps and some sort of a store, the Switch could actually go for the tablet market but unless they made its OS somehow Android compatible, it'd probably flop pretty hard.

But we are talking about Nintendo so I'm not expecting utility apps to even exist apart from maybe a few pre-installed essentials like a calendar.
Unity is on the list of their 3rd-party partners.
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