Because I'm lazy, it takes too damn long, and I need to get ready for work soon, I'll just give the condensed summary of why webadict and DA are my townpicks.
webadict: From the moment he started the game he's been drawing attention to himself in a very strange manner, his first post being fishing for someone else's role. At the time that set my alarm bells off and I began scrutinizing everything he did rather closely (although with the benefit of hindsight it's fairly obvious he was looking for who was the possessor of his maple syrup, at least if he's telling the truth about his role: the jury's still out on that, but I'll explain why I think it's likely below). This, of course, led into the next point of interest with webadict: his initially vague explanation of his abilities. Basically, he softclaimed some kind of empowering role and implied that if he used it for any scum or third party something bad would befall them, although he initially left it vague as to what. Let's look at it from two different perspectives: how it helps him if he's town, and how it helps him if he's scum.
Town webadict would gain a great deal of useful information, not just for himself, but for the town as a whole as well. By including the part about being able to find out scum, he traps scum into either calling his bluff (a risky move if he does indeed possess a way to inspect/kill/otherwise harm non-town he gives stuff to) or avoiding doing so, which may, down the line, come back to incriminate them as part of a larger body of evidence. Scum webadict gains... nothing over what town webadict would. See, unlike in Paranormal Mafia where people can discuss privately (or semi-privately, or literally exclude two people and keep the rest) all the information he'd be gaining from it would be public, and none of it would be incredibly useful to him as a scum player. The most he can really hope to get is a small hint at what powers someone might have based on their role, and the town gets that information as well so every townie can play around that (and unless there's some major fuckery going on, there are more town than scum here). Granted, in theory, town webadict doesn't gain any information that scum doesn't: after all, a scum webadict can use the same information to falsely incriminate someone as a town webadict can, but this leads into my second point.
The move draws a lot of unnecessary attention onto webadict himself. As scum, it's rarely beneficial to draw that much attention to yourself because it attracts all kinds of power roles and, potentially, votes. Unless his role is drastically different from what he's implied or the scum team have incredibly broken roles, that kind of attention could lead to a quick lynch or a quick kill. It's not even the kind of attention that generally gets you townie points: cause disruption on D1 tends to earn you the ire of a lot of players and a low spot on their scum-o-meter (learned this one from experience...). A scum webadict would have no reason to believe that making that play would result in people thinking he was town, and even if they did, a scum webadict would still be in a very interesting bind.
What bind? Well, let's break things down based on whether webadict is lying about his role or not. If he's lying about his role, then it's going to require some very fancy verbal gymnastics to weasel out of the lynch, since several players have fairly obvious items that are for them (this is, in fact, why I'm somewhat reluctant to have him do it to me: there's a non-zero possibility that I'm wrong about what my item is, and that either wastes town!wuba's action or gives scum!wuba an excuse to be somewhere else doing something else). If he's telling the truth about his role, well... he'd better be getting some pretty big boons for giving items, because empowering the town as a scum player is rather counterproductive, and if he were to empower his scumbuddy(s) it would be a giveaway if either of them ever died.
Conclusion? Webadict is probably not scum because his actions at the start of the game don't advance a scum wincon (and arguably hinder that same wincon) while providing lots of information for the town to use on later days from people's reactions. He also manages this without being incredibly disruptive (looking at you doll, if you're reading this game) allowing the day game to continue alongside his actions. All in all, he accomplishes a lot of work for the town in between his snark, and I'm willing to give him some town credit for that.
Now, on to...
Deus Asmoth: Actually got demoted to slight town as I was thinking about it this morning, because a huge amount of my conviction in his towniness were regarding his tone in dealing with questions and willingness to take risks (like calling webadict on his claim), but then I thought back to how he acted in the last Paranormal where he acted very similarly (minus some risks, but there were fewer risks to take in that game) as scum. I still think he's more likely town than anyone who isn't webadict, and I'm willing to wager all the marbles that he and webadict are not on a scumteam together.
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