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[ECrownofFire]

I have to say the new fan is positively nasty in the hands of a scout who knows how to communicate with his team. Alternatively combined with the FAN when running around on their own. It also marks cloaked spies who are hit, although judging from past form that will be patched out in a later update.

Jarate, milk, bleeding, and fire still mark a cloaked spy, so it's probably supposed to mark cloaked spies.

[Soulwynd]

It works just like jarate, milk, bleeding, etc.

The DR will cut off the initial effect, but you get remarked if you're hit again.

[Soulwynd]

I'm just gonna drop this here:

http://vimeo.com/21020148

[PTTG??]

I haven't played in a while. I may switch to the beta, just because I want to be able to play with all the new toys without jumping through any hoops.

[Old-Man-Gator]

Now soldiers have Eyelanders as well, the game is pretty much ruined. I mean more so than the cluster fuck that was the Polycount update.

[Frajic]

Now soldiers have Eyelanders as well, the game is pretty much ruined. I mean more so than the cluster fuck that was the Polycount update.

Could you say why new weapons ruin the game? Because they confuse you?

[Soulwynd]

Oh no... Not that whining again. I listen to it almost everywhere I go.

[Old-Man-Gator]

That old argument everywhere you go.. There MUST be a reason, right?

[Tyler6498]

That old argument everywhere you go.. There MUST be a reason, right?

I'll answer that.

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Yes.

[Soulwynd]

That old argument everywhere you go.. There MUST be a reason, right?

I'll answer that.

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Yes.

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People are whiny, yes.

OMG, I don't know that weapon, that sucks!
OMG, I Don't have that weapon, I don't want to wait or craft, that sucks!
OMG, There are so many weapons I don't know classes anymore!
OMG, that weapon or hat doesn't fit TF2; The theme is fucked!
OMG, that weapon is overpowered, everyone is killing me with it!

OMG, people are having fun with new weapons and I'm whining!

*whine whine whine*

Personally, if it wasn't for the diversity and updates, I would have left TF2 a loooong time ago.

[Jackrabbit]

Indeed. How many people still play the 360 version, by the way?

[Thexor]

Indeed. How many people still play the 360 version, by the way?

...hey, that's actually a good point. The XBox version is still mostly vanilla, isn't it? (I know Valve promised to port the updates once all the classes had their loot... but they seem to have been distracted by shiny objects hats. I vaguely remember them fixing (most of) the bugs, though.)

Next time I hear somebody whine about TF2 being 'ruined', I can just point them towards the console version!

[Soulwynd]

Ps.: Don't assume I liked every update valve did. I was hugely disappointed at the sniper's polypack. But hey, if people want to use those items, let them.

[Jackrabbit]

Indeed. How many people still play the 360 version, by the way?

...hey, that's actually a good point. The XBox version is still mostly vanilla, isn't it? (I know Valve promised to port the updates once all the classes had their loot... but they seem to have been distracted by shiny objects hats. I vaguely remember them fixing (most of) the bugs, though.)

Next time I hear somebody whine about TF2 being 'ruined', I can just point them towards the console version!

But again, how many people play it? I legitimately don't know, but I'm guessing not many.

Also, the reason as far as I've heard for the lack of ports is Microsoft's insistence they charge for the updates and Valve's refusal.

[dogstile]

Indeed. How many people still play the 360 version, by the way?

...hey, that's actually a good point. The XBox version is still mostly vanilla, isn't it? (I know Valve promised to port the updates once all the classes had their loot... but they seem to have been distracted by shiny objects hats. I vaguely remember them fixing (most of) the bugs, though.)

Next time I hear somebody whine about TF2 being 'ruined', I can just point them towards the console version!

But again, how many people play it? I legitimately don't know, but I'm guessing not many.

Also, the reason as far as I've heard for the lack of ports is Microsoft's insistence they charge for the updates and Valve's refusal.

Just checked. Games are still full there