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[Ahrimahn]

This fort is beautiful.

[Strategia]

I just realised something that I doubt would actually happen. If you were to use magma to obsidianise the Sea of Ooze, that would destroy the forgotten beast extract, right?
 
What if it didn't? What if the resulting obsidian was tainted by the extract? It could still be dangerous, but if properly handled, it could be crafted into weapons of war. Imagine having a military armed with oozesidian short swords, infecting goblins with The Great Rot with every swing that connects.
 
Of course, that would mean that the safest course of action would be to send one poor idiot with an oozesidian weapon out to get himself killed every time there's a siege, so long as he lands at least one hit. I don't know whether that would fall under Boring But Practical or Awesome Yet Practical, but it'd mean that every goblin siege would end as a bunch of rotting corpses after a while. Too bad it would do absolutely fuck all to skanimals, though zanimals might be susceptible, I don't know how that works.
 
And imagine offloading oozesidian baubles onto an unsuspecting elven caravan. Mwuahahahahahahahahah..... biological warfare ftw.

[Oglokoog]

I just realised something that I doubt would actually happen. If you were to use magma to obsidianise the Sea of Ooze, that would destroy the forgotten beast extract, right?
 
What if it didn't? What if the resulting obsidian was tainted by the extract? It could still be dangerous, but if properly handled, it could be crafted into weapons of war. Imagine having a military armed with oozesidian short swords, infecting goblins with The Great Rot with every swing that connects.
 
Of course, that would mean that the safest course of action would be to send one poor idiot with an oozesidian weapon out to get himself killed every time there's a siege, so long as he lands at least one hit. I don't know whether that would fall under Boring But Practical or Awesome Yet Practical, but it'd mean that every goblin siege would end as a bunch of rotting corpses after a while. Too bad it would do absolutely fuck all to skanimals, though zanimals might be susceptible, I don't know how that works.
 
And imagine offloading oozesidian baubles onto an unsuspecting elven caravan. Mwuahahahahahahahahah..... biological warfare ftw.

This might actually be possible in a future version of DF, but it certainly isn't now.

[Ahrimahn]

I just realised something that I doubt would actually happen. If you were to use magma to obsidianise the Sea of Ooze, that would destroy the forgotten beast extract, right?
 
What if it didn't? What if the resulting obsidian was tainted by the extract? It could still be dangerous, but if properly handled, it could be crafted into weapons of war. Imagine having a military armed with oozesidian short swords, infecting goblins with The Great Rot with every swing that connects.
 
Of course, that would mean that the safest course of action would be to send one poor idiot with an oozesidian weapon out to get himself killed every time there's a siege, so long as he lands at least one hit. I don't know whether that would fall under Boring But Practical or Awesome Yet Practical, but it'd mean that every goblin siege would end as a bunch of rotting corpses after a while. Too bad it would do absolutely fuck all to skanimals, though zanimals might be susceptible, I don't know how that works.
 
And imagine offloading oozesidian baubles onto an unsuspecting elven caravan. Mwuahahahahahahahahah..... biological warfare ftw.

This might actually be possible in a future version of DF, but it certainly isn't now.

Then we wait

[SirAaronIII]

Don't think it's coming anytime soon, but great idea nonetheless.

[Ahrimahn]

Yeah it will take forever to do stuff like that for now we need to focus on a project to build a tower into the sky and hunt down the gods.

[Ahrimahn]

By the way have we hit adimantium yet because that could come in handy for when an inevitable acident happens and we let in 30 forgotten beasts.

[Strategia]

By the way have we hit adimantium yet because that could come in handy for when an inevitable acident happens and we let in 30 forgotten beasts.

Just be glad you only have 30 FBs to worry about, rather than whether or not the next adamantium tile you mine unleashes masterwork Fun.

[Ahrimahn]

By the way have we hit adimantium yet because that could come in handy for when an inevitable acident happens and we let in 30 forgotten beasts.

Just be glad you only have 30 FBs to worry about, rather than whether or not the next adamantium tile you mine unleashes masterwork Fun.

Yes but it is still the most useful element in the entire game in terms of weapons and armor and we may be aby to get the FB's and hidden fun stuff fighting it out and thirty of them could probably survive the initial wave and it would be awesome

[Strategia]

By the way have we hit adimantium yet because that could come in handy for when an inevitable acident happens and we let in 30 forgotten beasts.

Just be glad you only have 30 FBs to worry about, rather than whether or not the next adamantium tile you mine unleashes masterwork Fun.

Yes but it is still the most useful element in the entire game in terms of weapons and armor and we may be aby to get the FB's and hidden fun stuff fighting it out and thirty of them could probably survive the initial wave and it would be awesome

True, but I'd still feel nervous as hell about every tile I'd be digging out. Although if one problem could be used to solve the other, that would be very good.
 
Who knows, the Great Rot might actually work wonders against the legions of evil. According to the wiki, they're immune to all poisons, but I don't know if beastie syndromes fall under that category. If they do, it might be..... interesting..... to change that. Yes, it could be considered cheating, of a sort, but clearing out HFS via biochemical warfare would be something very special. And it could fit in with the sadly apparently abortive backstory Seth was writing, way back when, with the demon-slaying FBs being the first harbinger of the evils encroaching on the world intent on its destruction.
 
Also, if its denizens are indeed brung low by syndromes, the edges of HFS could be walled off and the place could be used as the then-newest fortress expansion. Build living quarters and workshops suspended from the walls and ceiling, and use the floor as a giant garbage dump. Maybe there could even be magma channelled in from above, turning the floor into a massive incinerator - perhaps even the magma sea itself could be drained this way, through the adamantine vein and onto the floor of the HFS. Imagine the ambiance of having a small city suspended from the roof of HFS itself over a lake or river of magma, while the magma sea would provide plenty of room for storage when drained. Necropoli would naturally be built on the lowermost levels of HFS, and covered by magma when full.
 
Then again, I do have a tendency to daydream of impossible achievements, so this is just a mental image. For now.

[Zathel]

If I'm right, the cause of the great rot is not poison (because FBs are immune to poison) - it's frozen extract. It causes frostbite, and untreated frostbite causes outright rotting/wounds that when unhealed, rot like any other wound.

[Urist Imiknorris]

"Frozen" just means "solid." It doesn't mean that it's actually cold.

[Oglokoog]

If I'm right, the cause of the great rot is not poison (because FBs are immune to poison) - it's frozen extract. It causes frostbite, and untreated frostbite causes outright rotting/wounds that when unhealed, rot like any other wound.

No.
It is frozen because it has a high freezing point. It's not actually "freezing" as in under 0 degrees.

It's poison. FB's are immune to their own poison (and I'm actually not even sure about that), but not to the poison of others. The symptomes of FB dusts and such are randomly generated just as the beasts themselves are; when a lot of different FB poisons is applied to a living thing, it gets infected with a myriad of different diseases, rots and various other terrible things.

[Strategia]

If I'm right, the cause of the great rot is not poison (because FBs are immune to poison) - it's frozen extract. It causes frostbite, and untreated frostbite causes outright rotting/wounds that when unhealed, rot like any other wound.

No.
It is frozen because it has a high freezing point. It's not actually "freezing" as in under 0 degrees.

It's poison. FB's are immune to their own poison (and I'm actually not even sure about that), but not to the poison of others. The symptomes of FB dusts and such are randomly generated just as the beasts themselves are; when a lot of different FB poisons is applied to a living thing, it gets infected with a myriad of different diseases, rots and various other terrible things.

The Great Rot syndrome is, if I'm reading one of the bad futures right, transmissible, but it's still classified as a poison? That's too bad. So much for engaging in mass demoncide with biochemical weaponry. Oh well, at least it can still be weaponised against conventional enemies. Or more likely, given the history so far, against the fort itself.

[Ahrimahn]

If I'm right, the cause of the great rot is not poison (because FBs are immune to poison) - it's frozen extract. It causes frostbite, and untreated frostbite causes outright rotting/wounds that when unhealed, rot like any other wound.

No.
It is frozen because it has a high freezing point. It's not actually "freezing" as in under 0 degrees.

It's poison. FB's are immune to their own poison (and I'm actually not even sure about that), but not to the poison of others. The symptomes of FB dusts and such are randomly generated just as the beasts themselves are; when a lot of different FB poisons is applied to a living thing, it gets infected with a myriad of different diseases, rots and various other terrible things.

The Great Rot syndrome is, if I'm reading one of the bad futures right, transmissible, but it's still classified as a poison? That's too bad. So much for engaging in mass demoncide with biochemical weaponry. Oh well, at least it can still be weaponised against conventional enemies. Or more likely, given the history so far, against the fort itself.

We dont know until we try